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Tilt Camera Subpar?

Is it me??? Or is the camera on the Tilt sub par? Once the camera actually takes the picture it's somewhat decent, but it's getting the shot that's almost impossible.
I realize that this is a "Camera Phone", but come on. The delay on the view finder is horrible, it's so blurry and slow you can hardly find the subject you want to take a picture of. Once you finally find your subject and press the execute button, it takes 5+ seconds for the actual picture to be taken; by that time, the subject has moved and the picture is blurred. Every time I take a picture of someone, I have to pre-warn them not to move until I tell them to. The delay sucks no matter what setting the camera is on...
My wife has a blackberry pearl and the camera is much better; the view finder is real-time and not sluggish. The pictures come out very nice.
Is there a program out there that will better the camera software? Something???ANYTHING!!!

Mine also is very slow to take the picture, but it is very good quality once it does. Very clear, and the resolution is fonally good enough to do something with...

I have a good camera that I use, but my razor did a much better job with taking a quick snapshot. I did not get the tilt for the camera but if it was more usable (like a $100 camera from 3 years ago). I would use it more.
I have to capture to main memory to use even though I have a fast 4GB card in the tilt.

Welcome to 3 months ago. This topic has been discussed to death. There is no known solution (yet). The problem is most prevalent in low light situations.

Can you point me in the right direction for that Thread? I've done searches and can't seem to find the thread that discusses the camera issue.
Thanks.

nmtgman said:
Can you point me in the right direction for that Thread? I've done searches and can't seem to find the thread that discusses the camera issue.
Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351986
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339745

Tilt camera very laggy in dim environment

I noticed that Tilt's camera is extremely laggy when using in dark/dim environment. From what I read it seems that it related to infamous crappy driver issue..
I know it's related to brightness, since when I turn the camera on a, say, lamp or a well-lit object - it speeds up by A LOT.
It seems that it's trying to process or compensate for darkness... Is there any way around it? Let it be dark, but hell - it's so slow it's unusable.

I have the same experience, but since the camera has no external flash or light source, you must ensure adequate lighting conditions to get the best functionality out of the camera. I think the auto focus and or the flicker adjustment get really jerky in low light conditions. I thought something was wrong until I figured this out. It takes pretty good pics, and great video considering its a phone once you get the lighting right.

compared to just about any other camera phone I've used, it requires a LOT of light. This thing is virtuallly unusable inside. I have never, ever, gotten the picture I want to get. If you are taking a picture of people you need to click the camera, say cheese, and still wait for the picture to take. No way to take candid shots as people have always moved by the time it snaps.
Forced to carry my real camera.
I know I know...it's a phone, not a camera. That's for sure...

DarkDvr said:
It seems that it's trying to process or compensate for darkness... Is there any way around it? Let it be dark, but hell - it's so slow it's unusable.
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I assume you didn't take the time to read the other 20 threads about the camera.
Go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php

I like using Sports mode rather than camera mode indoors. A burst of pics generally will yeild a couple that are tolerable.

I did search.
What I'm asking in this thread is whether somebody found a temporary workaround for this problem, like increasing brightness, turning off some kind of "low light compensation" in the registry or something of that nature.

The answer is YES. It is inside another thread. I dont recall the settings, but indeed there are options to adjust, new cameras to install. They are just in different threads that are already established and waiting on people with questions to explore, read and learn from.

Well, I'll run another search and dig through pages of posts.. =)

Try the Google search of this site as apposed to the "search" option on the forums. Google is easier to preview and decide how relevant the search return is. Use more than one search term. If you are looking for a solution to Wi-Fi, search for Wi-Fi, WiFi or wireless router, etc....
http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
Just be thankful there are pages of information here. Some of those "pages" are repetitive threads like "How do I".... or "Does anyone know what...." if there weren't so many repetitive threads, there wouldn't be so many pages to search through. Know what I'm saying?

Yup, I run my own forum and I know what you mean.
Anyway, no sense arguing, I'll see what I can find. You're right about one thing - there's lots of info here.

Good luck DarkDrvr. I've read a lot here and tried several things. Not much success for me on the camera. Improvment, yes, worth a darn, no.
I'm hoping that, as they said, the video drivers that someone may eventually come out with help the camera too.

Since suggesting use of the Sports mode rather than the camra mode, I've come to realize that the difference that I'm seeing may more be the result of the udated camera version I'm running (version 5.04 build 29195). See this thread for info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355587

found a fix
turn on the camera.. then hit the power button. the screen will go black. wait like 5-10secs. hit the power button again and it tricks the camera to turn off the low-light compensation. after that you should be able to shoot away. found it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqJcmJc8y_s

found a fix
the answer is in the comment section

way to go on pulling up an old thread and posting a solution that has been repeated way too many times

Camera Issues

Hello,
I've tried to find this issue in the forums, but can't.
I have a problem with my camera on the AT&T Tilt (8925), it really slows down in low light settings. Unless it's really bright or sunny it takes horrible pictures. The preview mode jumps and skips.(I'm using the ROM it came with)
The 8525 that I had before would take pictures and video no problem in semi low light situations, but the Tilt is not even close.
Please let me know if other people are having the same problem or if you think I have a defective unit or something is wrong with the ROM.

I don't think anyone has ever had a problem with their camera in low light. It must be just your phone. I would take it back to ATT and demand a refund and a free phone for your troubles.

i agree, i think not a single person in this forum has any issue with using the camera in low light conditions. In fact, I'm pretty sure that if you look in the kaiser wiki, you will see nothing about low fps in the camera at all.

Have you pressed Control Alt Delete?

Kaze0110 said:
Have you pressed Control Alt Delete?
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Oh, is this a webcam he is talking about?

ok thanks, I get it

kspirit said:
ok thanks, I get it
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Haha, that was sweet. No one was suggesting that you check out the wiki and you totally did not get the hint that they were not hinting.

grizzley said:
Oh, is this a webcam he is talking about?
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Oh, which reminds me, I was going to bring this up after I tested it as working or not.
I had a webcam that had the same problem as this phone's does.
Point being, I was going to install the latest camera software because that one (the 5.xx version) had different registry settings than the 4.xx one did. And I THINK, that there was a registry setting that defined the different increments available for the lighting scenarios.
EG: you should be able to deactivate the camera's ability to auto adjust to light, or at least increase the time before it does to some unholy number.

kspirit said:
Hello,
I've tried to find this issue in the forums, but can't.
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How can you say you couldn't find the answer? There are tons of threads and a classaction law suite (or something like that) with this problem stamped all over it.

Question Terrible Camera

I know I could turn off the HDR settings. However, I normally like it. The Note 20 I had was fine, but the colors on the S21 are sooo amplified that everything looks like it was taken with a bad filter. Nearly every photo is complete crap. Video is fine, just the pics are an issue. I usually don't have the scene optimizer on. Anyone know of other fixes? I saw that the May update includes something for the camera, but I have no idea what. Does anyone know if it addresses this issue? Thanks!

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I know I could turn off the HDR settings. However, I normally like it. The Note 20 I had was fine, but the colors on the S21 are sooo amplified that everything looks like it was taken with a bad filter. Nearly every photo is complete crap. Video is fine, just the pics are an issue. I usually don't have the scene optimizer on. Anyone know of other fixes? I saw that the May update includes something for the camera, but I have no idea what. Does anyone know if it addresses this issue? Thanks!
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Major issue I have is with skin tones. Before I take the pic, it looks detailed and after it processes it, it turns into a beauty filter mode, smoothing everything and killing details. I figured mine was HK variant so it's doing what people like there, but on my wife's Note 20U (again, HK variant) it doesn't have that drastic issue.
I got the May update, and it hasn't resolved it. Anything even slightly moving will crush all details in indoor light.
I always use Gcam...and it's by far the best alternative to anything apart from Pixel phones, for stills. Video is always stock.

Did you click the magic wand and turn off the filters?

nixnixnixnix4 said:
Did you click the magic wand and turn off the filters?
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Yes, there are no filters on.

These always interest me. It's like we all have different phones....or maybe it's preferences.
I have none of these 'issues'. The skin tones are something I've really appreciated per past Samsung processing. Very natural finally. Mine has seemed good out of the box

jaybird779 said:
I know I could turn off the HDR settings. However, I normally like it. The Note 20 I had was fine, but the colors on the S21 are sooo amplified that everything looks like it was taken with a bad filter. Nearly every photo is complete crap. Video is fine, just the pics are an issue. I usually don't have the scene optimizer on. Anyone know of other fixes? I saw that the May update includes something for the camera, but I have no idea what. Does anyone know if it addresses this issue? Thanks!
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Never ran into the "issue" you're talking about. Nearly every photo I take on this phone is a keeper.
If you're seriously saying the 'nearly every photo is complete crap', then I guess your preference for photos is something very different from the average joe.
If I were you, I would first check with other people around me who have the same phone and compare cameras to confirm that my phone didn't have an issue.
If only your phone takes crappy pics and theirs are fine, contact Samsung for a warranty replacement/repair.
However, if you think even their S21U photos are crap, then you can either shoot in pro mode and do post-processing to tune images to your liking or just change to some other phone. I don't think the camera on this phone will improve very much with future software updates, if the current level is "crap" in your opinion.
Personally, I have nothing that needs "fixing". It's a great camera in my opinion.
Just to be clear, I'm not bashing on you - you gave your opinion and I gave mine. We don't have to agree. But I'm genuinely trying to help.
I would honestly consider trying out the comparison test with a few mates to figure out if something's wrong with your device.

Shockingly poor front camera quality

Hi all,
I recently purchased S20 FE 5g (Snapdragon, india) few days back for my wife. The screen of her previous phone Redmi k20 broke after a fall and screen was not available (and even if so it was going to cost around 50-60% of phone's original purchased value. So instead we decided to buy new phone. And after lot of back and forth we settled for S20 FE.
The main camera is good. But the front camera and selfie is really poor for this kind of phone and price. In fact Redmi K20 which was almost half of the price of this one had better front camera.
The photos are grainy and blurry half of the times. And smoothening effect even after turning off all filters. This doesn't have autofocus I am aware. But most of the phones do not have for front camera.
Night mode and Gcam improves it somewhat but overall very disappointing front camera.
I checked with service centre and they mentioned there are no hardware or software issues. So I cannot get any return or refund as well.
Shockingly very few reviewers mentioned the issues with front camera and overall camera reviews were good. Now after doing some research see many users complaining about front camera. Seen some posts here and many on reddit as well. My 3 years old Pixel 3xl takes miles better photos and even almost 2.5 years old Redmi K20 was better in front camera marginally which was almost half of the price.
Given S20 FE was released almost 1 and half years back I do not have any hope of fixing the front camera by software updates from Samsung (they would have already done by now)
Or if anyone here have any idea if the front camera can be improved by some tweaks? (already tried night mode and gcam which are better but anything for normal shots?)

Have a look at Open Camera .... https://opencamera.org.uk/
Thread here :
[APP][4.0.3+] Open Camera
Open Camera is an Open Source camera app for Android that I've been working on. Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera Or install APK directly from...
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xabu said:
Have a look at Open Camera .... https://opencamera.org.uk/
Thread here :
[APP][4.0.3+] Open Camera
Open Camera is an Open Source camera app for Android that I've been working on. Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera Or install APK directly from...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Is it better than the stock camera?

stock camera and stock camera app are two completely different things. Sometimes custom apps perform better.
You should look at it, then you can decide. I have the luck that I did not buy the same phone..

I bought the S20 FE and back then there was a screen bug that was enough for the seller to take the phone back - you'd have to search for the thread but it involves multi-touch on the screen.
There's an app you can DL to check it but it shows as when you do multi-touch swipes the screen malfunctions. Might work with your retailer as a faulty phone?

I would return it.
Try clearing the system cache and cam data first.
If the cam app has been updated, roll back to factory loaded version.
Also try in safe mode to rule out a 3rd party app causing the issue.

Journyman16 said:
I bought the S20 FE and back then there was a screen bug that was enough for the seller to take the phone back - you'd have to search for the thread but it involves multi-touch on the screen.
There's an app you can DL to check it but it shows as when you do multi-touch swipes the screen malfunctions. Might work with your retailer as a faulty phone?
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Ok. I am unable to find out the app. Could you share the link?

blackhawk said:
I would return it.
Try clearing the system cache and cam data first.
If the cam app has been updated, roll back to factory loaded version.
Also try in safe mode to rule out a 3rd party app causing the issue.
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Tried the first and 3rd suggestions but same result. Second one means factory reset?

rockrahul said:
Tried the first and 3rd suggestions but same result. Second one means factory reset?
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It's better to find the root cause. A factory reset is the last option. It's used after a major firmware upgrade, if a poorly written app alters hidden user settings or in the case of malware.
Problem being is you never learn what the root cause was... if the issue reappears in the future.
In the long run a conservative troubleshooting approach wastes less of your time. Use factory reset as a last ditch option. Always clear the system cache before you go full nuke as it can fix many strange glitches.
Also try a hard reboot (simulates pulling battery).
Did you do any firmware upgrades?
Did you use SmartSwitch to help load this phone?
If so factory reset. Do Not use SmartSwitch on the next load...

rockrahul said:
Ok. I am unable to find out the app. Could you share the link?
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It's called Touch Screen Test - there's a thread on Reddit about it here...
NOTE: Put a www. in front of the addresses and copy them to your browser - if I put the link it posts the entire threads in this post, which seems a bit impolite for others.
reddit.com/r/Galaxy_S20/comments/j6cdu0/s20_fe_5g_smg781bds_has_a_touchscreen_hardware/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I found another thread that claims it was fixed in updates so check you have the latest firmware also.
reddit.com/r/Galaxy_S20/comments/jau31s/s20_fe_touchscreen_issue_thread/

For me i found that i get the touchscreen issue, more like the glide keyboard plays up
Reboot always fixes it.
And its usually after phone has been on continually for days on end that it acts up
As for the front camera, I agree its poor.
I find i have to add colour to the images and chuck on the warm filter to full to get warmth.

I had the same bad luck of buying this phone. Have been facing the same issue. But there is something surprising I have found in the front camera of this device (S20 FE). See the difference between the photo mode and video mode of Front camera. I found the difference quite noticeable. This confirms that there is nothing wrong with the front camera of this device but definitely with its software. In video mode of Front Camera I see no lag as in photo mode and the camera is as smooth as it could be. Kindly see the difference and do let me know.
Regards
Robin Arora