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When i first got my diamond the stylus used to snap in through magnetism back into its location. The snap in effect has now gone. anyone else had the same poblem
yes, there is a little magnet inside the slot where the stylus goes.
if you are lucky it has just moved, so you will have to put it back.
the magnet (a rectangle about 2x15 mm) is placed right next to the bottom of the battery.
it looks like at piece of plastic so it might be hard to see it.
on side of it is with stickytape (i guess the tape is not very good)
Yes i did my magnet had fallen out! Orange replaced the handset for me...
thanks for that i am with oranage so will give them a call,
commodore65 said:
thanks for that i am with oranage so will give them a call,
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to be honest it took some phone calls to change it. Best to tell them because of the loose stylus your phone keeps unlocking itself and it rings people.
Dear friends
Just gotten my new S7 edge and instead of putting the pin to the SIM card
hole I putted in the microphone hole :crying:
Do you believe I have damaged the microphone ? And can this been repair ?
I tried to ask if calling somebody and closing the down microphone he hear me
and he mention that my voice was far away and with interruptions .
Any advise and help :crying:
Sounds Like an exchange for a new phone may be in your future... I Can sympathize with you.... I can see how people could make that mistake.
Best of luck.
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minoch said:
Sounds Like an exchange for a new phone may be in your future... I Can sympathize with you.... I can see how people could make that mistake.
Best of luck.
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I almost did that earlier today when swapping the sim from my 6P to the S7E (I change between the two phones often). Samsung should have put the sim tray on the side to avoid that, or made the mic hole a different size the tool wouldn't fit in it.
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Lol I did that exact samething when I got mine. I don't think I hurt mine though. Guess I got lucky because I really jammed it in there good. The phone screamed "wrong hole!"
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I did this a few times with my Note 5 and it worked Fine.
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do you think that samsung does this on purpose?
I did the same thing but it didn't seem to affect anything. I haven't tested the mic specifically but I ran it underwater and my phone didn't fry so I assume if it still is water resistant there was no way I could have destroyed the underlying mic or its protective water resistant barrier. When I first did it I found a post mentioning that the top mic on most phones is in the shape of an L, so if this is true, then all you were doing was stabbing the housing but there is no way to physically stab the mic with a simple pin insertion. Either way I have 14 days so if I did stab it and destroy the contents, ill exchange it.
busab said:
Lol I did that exact samething when I got mine. I don't think I hurt mine though. Guess I got lucky because I really jammed it in there good. The phone screamed "wrong hole!"
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That's what she said...
Thanks a lot gays :good:
I hope them that I haven't destroyed the microphone !
And I am happy to see that I am not the only one that have made that mistake
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I did the same thing but it didn't seem to affect anything. I haven't tested the mic specifically but I ran it underwater and my phone didn't fry so I assume if it still is water resistant there was no way I could have destroyed the underlying mic or its protective water resistant barrier. When I first did it I found a post mentioning that the top mic on most phones is in the shape of an L, so if this is true, then all you were doing was stabbing the housing but there is no way to physically stab the mic with a simple pin insertion. Either way I have 14 days so if I did stab it and destroy the contents, ill exchange it.
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sorry to pop the discussion up, but today I did the same thing (pin the mic hole instead of the sim tray), but I felt something moving inside while I was pushing..that happened to you too? I read you tested it underwater (that's my only concern, since I tested the mic and it works fine and I believe I just only removed the "water proof" seal)
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sorry to pop the discussion up, but today I did the same thing (pin the mic hole instead of the sim tray), but I felt something moving inside while I was pushing..that happened to you too? I read you tested it underwater (that's my only concern, since I tested the mic and it works fine and I believe I just only removed the "water proof" seal)
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I didn't notice anything moving around in there after I did it. I haven't noticed any major side effects thus far so I am going to assume it didn't damage anything considering the mic still works as well as the waterproofing. If something is moving then I would be nervous to try it underwater, but if you have insurance I'd test it and have it replaced if it isn't waterproof anymore.
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I didn't notice anything moving around in there after I did it. I haven't noticed any major side effects thus far so I am going to assume it didn't damage anything considering the mic still works as well as the waterproofing. If something is moving then I would be nervous to try it underwater, but if you have insurance I'd test it and have it replaced if it isn't waterproof anymore.
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Thanks for the reply, I meant, when I pushed the clip inside the mic, I felt something "going away" down the hole, maybe some kind of seal? Goretex layer? I was wondering if you felt the same when you pushed the first time inside that hole (lol it seems naughty).
I don't have an insurance so I can't try if it fries or not under the water
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Thanks for the reply, I meant, when I pushed the clip inside the mic, I felt something "going away" down the hole, maybe some kind of seal? Goretex layer? I was wondering if you felt the same when you pushed the first time inside that hole (lol it seems naughty).
I don't have an insurance so I can't try if it fries or not under the water
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It's been a while now, but I don't recall noticing anything move as I pressed it in either. It felt like the sim ejector port that I thought it was until I realized nothing was popping out. I pressed firmly but not forcefully, so if I didn't break anything then I bet you didn't either, but I could be wrong since I don't actually know what is going on in that mic hole.
The best thing to do would be to ask for an exchange within the 14 day return period.
This says it's not harmful on most phones: https://youtu.be/85p_oFk595I?t=236
So when activating the phone, I foolishly followed the Verizon tech's advice to poke the sim tool in both holes in the top. Doing my research post-activation, I see that I poked the tool into the mic.
Likely damage? There are two mics, but the one on top surely has a slightly different purpose. How can I verify if I did any damage?
LOL - I see a ton of posts on this site and reddit with people that have done the same thing. Still would love to know what the top mic is for and ideas for testing for damage.
Likely candidates for damage are "waterproofing", the mic itself, fabric, etc.
If my eyesight and the light were better I'd have noticed the outline of the tray, but couldn't see it. I should know better than to listen to a phone tech for advice like that.
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LOL - I see a ton of posts on this site and reddit with people that have done the same thing. Still would love to know what the top mic is for and ideas for testing for damage.
Likely candidates for damage are "waterproofing", the mic itself, fabric, etc.
If my eyesight and the light were better I'd have noticed the outline of the tray, but couldn't see it. I should know better than to listen to a phone tech for advice like that.
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Noise cancelation, most likely. As to testing for damage, that may prove difficult.
Mostly, those mics aren't directly behind the hole in the frame. They're mounted on top of the PCB and a 90° plastic tube is glued on them to prevent dust, sand and poking derps to damage the microphones. I don't know how Samsung did this in the S10 series.
Testing noise reduction microphones isn't possible directly, just when in use. They're not used by Android, they're used by the actual sound driver and can't be controlled directly via the OS.
Jerryrigeverything did a video on this (in a video he talked about it not a full video on it) the phone is designed for people who do this and it doesn't have any effect. The top mic is probably used for both noise canceling and when you are in a loud environment and have your hand covering the bottom of your phone (like a concert)
If it was my phone and I had done this specifically at the direction of a Verizon representative and it could be verified phone was damaged as a result, I would be trying to get them to replace phone. A tech uninformed enough to suggest a stupid move like this will probably lie and say they never instructed you to do this. Maybe poking tech in wrong hole would be fitting revenge.
LMAO.. i did that to my wife and she liked it.
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If it was my phone and I had done this specifically at the direction of a Verizon representative and it could be verified phone was damaged as a result, I would be trying to get them to replace phone. A tech uninformed enough to suggest a stupid move like this will probably lie and say they never instructed you to do this. Maybe poking tech in wrong hole would be fitting revenge.
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If Verizon had actually sold me the phone, I'd consider it. But since I bought it directly from Samsung (it was a $300 off deal!) I don't believe I'd end up with a replacement. The first thing I have to get over is feeling so stupid. I had read something somewhere about dual sim slots - probably on some future phone - and because of the symmetry thought that there were two of them.
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Jerryrigeverything did a video on this (in a video he talked about it not a full video on it) the phone is designed for people who do this and it doesn't have any effect. The top mic is probably used for both noise canceling and when you are in a loud environment and have your hand covering the bottom of your phone (like a concert)
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It makes sense they would design the phone to prevent such a common mistake. Why design two identical holes in the top where one opens the tray and one destroys a mic? Reminds me of a Dilbert strip. Thanks for the assurance. It helps ease that worried feel.
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LMAO.. i did that to my wife and she liked it.
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hilarious
Simple, just use the built in voice recorder in interview mode.
Did the same thing the very next second I unboxed it...it seems to me there is no damage...but I cant verify it....thinking of it, I probably haven't shot a single video from this phone since the time I got it (its launch)
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LMAO.. i did that to my wife and she liked it.
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I have never seen a better reply on XDA ever. That's funny.
Wrong hole compilation
Uhh
Wow, this is why there are 2 mics, one on bottom, one on top...It is simply for STEREO sound during video recording.
I did this on the bottom hole ?
But seriously I worry now about waterproof. I tested the mic by recording a video in landscape talking in stereo in both mics and playback sounded fine.
Nope. The top microphone is for noise cancellation during a phone conversation on speaker. Your other party will hear a lot of uncancelled background noise.
Ejector tool cannot damage the mic
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So when activating the phone, I foolishly followed the Verizon tech's advice to poke the sim tool in both holes in the top. Doing my research post-activation, I see that I poked the tool into the mic.
Likely damage? There are two mics, but the one on top surely has a slightly different purpose. How can I verify if I did any damage?
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YouTube at about 3:52 into the video
Huawei P30 Pro Teardown! - How does a 'Periscope Camera' work?
This answers the age old question, "I mistakenly poked the mic hole with the ejector tool, did I damage the mic?"... The answer is no... I'm sure all phone manufacturers thought of this... on pretty much every phone, the actual mic is off to the side internally...
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YouTube at about 3:52 into the video
Huawei P30 Pro Teardown! - How does a 'Periscope Camera' work?
This answers the age old question, "I mistakenly poked the mic hole with the ejector tool, did I damage the mic?"... The answer is no... I'm sure all phone manufacturers thought of this... on pretty much every phone, the actual mic is off to the side internally...
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Probably toasted the water protection though.
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Probably toasted the water protection though.
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Nope... Watch the video... No waterproofing damage either...
So I did the same thing too!
While distracted, I used a sewing needle to try to open the sim card port and accidentally jammed it in the hole by the charging port!
Whoops!
So checking out this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHzmFPoZbCA&feature=youtu.be&t=293
It looks like I ran into a metal box looking thing on the mother board (I think that is what I was pressing depressingly firmly into trying to get the sim tray to open.) . IO think that is the mic chip, but not the opening? So did I bump that, but not damage waterproofing and not damage the mic?
I just do not know what I was stressing and if I should worry. I was using a sharp needle, but I do not think i punctured anything!
Galaxy S21 series design flaw leaves a lot of room for user error
Samsung's new Galaxy S21 series, and especially the Galaxy S21 Ultra, is shaping up to be a great addition to ...
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" Samsung has relocated the SIM card tray with the Galaxy S21 series and this component can now be found at the bottom edge, right next to the microphone. As usual, the SIM tray can be ejected by inserting a SIM ejector tool into a tiny round hole, and it so happens that this orifice is millimeters away from the microphone, with both having roughly the same diameter. "
...open the link above for more.
Brilliant. That's going to make for a rude surprise.
The mic is not going to break, do you really think they didn't think of that?
The mic is not in the way of the actual hole..
After 4:50 here you see how flat the mic actually is.
I did put it in the wrong hole lol...
You can see the outline of the sim card tray so didn't have this issue, also the back protection cover when you first take it out the box very specifically says where which hole to push - so hopefully not many will have any kind of issue.
"Pete always seems to get off at the wrong stop..."
Whew. I thought that this was way more of a problem than it actually is. I was thinking that you have to be very careful when inserting the SIM tray back into your phone! But after reading this, no no, you just have to put the SIM tray removal pin into the SIM tray hole instead of ramming it through your phone's microphone lol. No problems at all, thankfully.
So I suppose that all of the people breaking their microphones aren't even looking at the bright labels that say exactly where to NOT place your SIM tray removal pin, haha.
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Whew. I thought that this was way more of a problem than it actually is. I was thinking that you have to be very careful when inserting the SIM tray back into your phone! But after reading this, no no, you just have to put the SIM tray removal pin into the SIM tray hole instead of ramming it through your phone's microphone lol. No problems at all, thankfully.
So I suppose that all of the people breaking their microphones aren't even looking at the bright labels that say exactly where to NOT place your SIM tray removal pin, haha.
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So Samsung now is putting on bright labels?
Bah-ha-ha-ha... so there -is- a problem
I suspect the labels only exasperates the direness of the situation like someone telling you "I told you so!"
Males with their refined tactile senses rarely use visual cues to find holes anyway.
Maybe Samsung should add a "wrong hole!" audio warning too
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So Samsung now is putting on bright labels?
Bah-ha-ha-ha... so there -is- a problem
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I believe that those labels have been there the whole time (found pics of the phone that were uploaded 5-6 days ago with those labels attached)... But I suppose that they're more visible on the phantom black version of the phone as the labels are all bright white. But either way, I don't really see this as a problem. I mean, the microphone hole isn't even touching or located on the SIM card tray, lol. So if someone ends up ignoring the labels and shoves they're SIM tray removal pin into the microphone hole, then they kinda deserve a broken mic, haha.
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I believe that those labels have been there the whole time (found pics of the phone that were uploaded 5-6 days ago with those labels attached)... But I suppose that they're more visible on the phantom black version of the phone as the labels are all bright white. But either way, I don't really see this as a problem. I mean, the microphone hole isn't even touching or located on the SIM card tray, lol. So if someone ends up ignoring the labels and shoves they're SIM tray removal pin into the microphone hole, then they kinda deserve a broken mic, haha.
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On my 10+ there were no labels straight out of the factory sealed box. I actually had two new units because of problems with the first one.
I almost made that mistake but noticed my aim was off.
Samsung really put it in harm's way as with no case you're likely to put the phone on a flat surface. Depending on the angle and lighting unless you're specifically looking for that hole you could mess up.
The devil is in the details...
Just imagine, a whole cottage industry based on replacing damage Samsung mics
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On my 10+ there were no labels straight out of the factory sealed box. I actually had two new units because of problems with the first one.
I almost made that mistake but noticed my aim was off.
Samsung really put it in harm's way as with no case you're likely to put the phone on a flat surface. Depending on the angle and lighting unless you're specifically looking for that hole you could mess up.
The devil is in the details...
Just imagine, a whole cottage industry based on replacing damage Samsung mics
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I guess. But I suppose what I'm trying to say is the fact that people who are messing this up are basically in a very, very similar situation to people who break their toaster ovens due to putting glasses of milk in there to only heat up the liquid. In other words, if you don't know how to do something, read the instructions first and there won't be a problem. And luckily enough, on the S21U specifically, the instructions are literally plastered right on the device lol.
So for me, a similar problem to this one would be me cooking chicken in a new oven at 500°F for 45 minutes and then complaining about the oven company for selling a broken, food-burning product (when in reality, the problem was just due to my personal lack of knowledge and refusal to do any research - which would literally just take one, simple Google search =P ).
But I wuv toaster oven warmed milk... the trick is putting a layer of olive oil on the top.
I received my S21 ultra today, and I am afraid to say I am on of those people who insert pin in wrong hole. Now my question did I just broke the mic or it oky. I tried pretty hard lol.
No, like in all previous samsung phones, engineers have foreseen this issue and prevented this.
There's an engineered design and they have thought of All of the pop tart covered sticky finger kiddos swapping out daily drivers yall.. design features an offset channel and a complete cell-style reverb channel that would take some serious skill and the floppiest, limped out, no viagra style noodle Sim tool that's too depressing to ever exist anyway...
Get a grip, don't make me find and SS the "post durability test" teardown vid where #Jerryrigeverything mentions the "thoughtful and clever" subtleties of the classy way we overlook this type of small eng feats Samsung puts out for us. If u guys ever fell aware of the cooling sectionals insanly engineered thermal efficiency youd die of lawsuit daydreams or sumn idfk
but seriously now all jokes aside those willing to carry this behavior as an acceptable mic issue venture just to waste time!! Big middle to ya, and then last for those misinformed enough to believe this narg or act like they do shame on you...
Samsung deserves betta,, all jokes aside, bc yeah, whew.. stomach hurtin...
It's obviously a little more hilarious than humanly possible Samsung would let this **** happen, this we know... Can we engineer different style jokes maybe some that include a format of a strictly standardized amount of intellectual content, and an age consent barrier.
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On the newer versions there isba nervous sounding female voice saying :
*'Ooh that is the wrong spot!'
* ok not really .
As the title says, I pushed the sim pin into the mic hole, exerting some pressure before realising it was the wrong hole.
Very careless of me, but the mic works fine, but will it have damaged the waterproofing?
The holes are too close to each other!
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As the title says, I pushed the sim pin into the mic hole, exerting some pressure before realising it was the wrong hole.
Very careless of me, but the mic works fine, but will it have damaged the waterproofing?
The holes are too close to each other!
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Bah-ha-ha-ha done the same thing on my Samsung N10+. The phone should a wrong hole warning
Likely there is no damage as they probably have a false stop that shields the core components as do Samsung's. They know it's going to happen.
kai666 said:
As the title says, I pushed the sim pin into the mic hole, exerting some pressure before realising it was the wrong hole.
Very careless of me, but the mic works fine, but will it have damaged the waterproofing?
The holes are too close to each other!
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My FInd X3 Pro was developing a tiny black dot on the screen, and it was still under warranty with days left, so I booked it for repair. The technician was repairing my phone right in front of me, and he poked the wrong hole while ejecting the sim card as well
JerryRigEverything pointed out this issue on one of his YouTube videos.. and he tried it on various brand of phones, and all of them were safe after the microphone hole was violated by sim card ejector tool.
All of the manufacturers tested on the video designed the actual waterproofing mesh and microphone itself on top or bottom, perpendicular to the shaft, not at the end of the shaft. Some manufacturers even made the shaft gets smaller so the ejector tool can't get to the very end., but for those which the ejector can make it to the very end, its still safe and the waterproofing membrane still intact.
Oppo wasn't one of the phones tested, but OnePlus was, and I can't imagine Oppo is doing things differently.
Thanks for the replies, slightly reassured by the OnePlus test in the video, but I guess the only real way of knowing is to dunk the phone in water.
As I had no plans to submerge it anyway, I don't think I'm that brave to try it at the moment, just in case OnePlus and oppo are built differently
Just for anyone else who does the same thing, I spoke to oppo support, who would only say if the microphone is still working, then it should still be waterproof.
So fingers crossed!
The "tunnel" is at the 90° so everything should be fine