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Keeping my Mi 8 or goes second hand Pixel 2 XL

Currently I have Xiaomi Mi 8. But recently there are some interesting offers for second hand Google Pixel 2 XL for about 390.5 USD. Quite confusing because Xiaomi Mi 8 has newer chipset (SD 845), better display (Samsung AMOLED vs LG p-OLED), and larger RAM (6 GB vs 4 GB). But in the other hand Google Pixel 2 XL has much stronger camera, stock Android, it's like a dream device. I'm just a casual user (messenger, social media, browsing, Spotify, taking some photos for Instagram feed) What's your opinion? Should I keep my Xiaomi Mi 8 or goes to second hand Pixel 2 XL?

Or try Pixel experience Rom and enjoy the best of both worlds?
Assuming it's a global device you can still relock the bootloader and sell it afterwards if you didn't like it.

keep ur money and the mi8 wait for snapdragons 855 is around the corner .....oled from pixel 2s are tend to burn easily aswell the pixel 3s ......i own mi8 6/128 currently running havoc build 12/24/ sphinx 2.0 / stock google gapps .....batt last me 20-30 hours... on sot 5-7 .... and there you have an way better overpriced pixel device the camera from mi8 is also superior just need few tweaks.
the only thing i deslike from mi8 is the size...they went from 5"0 inch to 6"2 inche (to big) ....notch aahh ...few subtratums overlay to show 4 notification remove the clock... and keep wifi/signal/batt+ % and u can live whit it ......
waiting for another xiaomi 855 device mi mix 3 5g (to delicate it wont last me an week before i break it )will see mi 9 hopefully an punch hole if is an water drop notch ill keep mi8 mean time

altvolt74 said:
keep ur money and the mi8 wait for snapdragons 855 is around the corner .....oled from pixel 2s are tend to burn easily aswell the pixel 3s ......i own mi8 6/128 currently running havoc build 12/24/ sphinx 2.0 / stock google gapps .....batt last me 20-30 hours... on sot 5-7 .... and there you have an way better overpriced pixel device the camera from mi8 is also superior just need few tweaks.
the only thing i deslike from mi8 is the size...they went from 5"0 inch to 6"2 inche (to big) ....notch aahh ...few subtratums overlay to show 4 notification remove the clock... and keep wifi/signal/batt+ % and u can live whit it ......
waiting for another xiaomi 855 device mi mix 3 5g (to delicate it wont last me an week before i break it )will see mi 9 hopefully an punch hole if is an water drop notch ill keep mi8 mean time
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Already read about Havoc. Have you update it to the latest build? And what bugs?

It depends on what do you want from a phone. If you use the social/camera part of a gadget, then go for the pixel. If not, keep the Mi8. I had to choose from the same 2 phones and I went with the Mi8. I will upgrade to mi mix 3 in the summer

Blitzz.666 said:
It depends on what do you want from a phone. If you use the social/camera part of a gadget, then go for the pixel. If not, keep the Mi8. I had to choose from the same 2 phones and I went with the Mi8. I will upgrade to mi mix 3 in the summer
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What do you consider so you pick Mi 8 at the end?

The screen , the gestures of miui9(at that time), the infra red unlock in pitch black, the performance. Not a fan of the notch, but i accept it because it houses sensors and suprinsingly , a very good camera. Also was very suprised by the dual camera on the back.

What to pick as my next phone? Mi9 or Oneplus 6T

Recently my wife arrested my Mi8 because of the Google Camera astonishing output, so now I am using an old Mi A1 rooted, but my fingers are already itching, so now in the position of buying a new phone.
The reason I am posting here is that Mi9 is one of my options.
Based on your experience with the device what would you pick Xiaomi Mi9 vs. Oneplus 6T (can find if 100-150 Eur cheaper in mint condition).
Main factors:
- camera experience and compatibility with Google Camera;
- battery;
- lagfree experience;
I now all features and youtube movies, but I am more interested in users opinions than biased reviewers.
Can take also other recommendations if the reason is posted.

catalindobre said:
Recently my wife arrested my Mi8 because of the Google Camera astonishing output, so now I am using an old Mi A1 rooted, but my fingers are already itching, so now in the position of buying a new phone.
The reason I am posting here is that Mi9 is one of my options.
Based on your experience with the device what would you pick Xiaomi Mi9 vs. Oneplus 6T (can find if 100-150 Eur cheaper in mint condition).
Main factors:
- camera experience and compatibility with Google Camera;
- battery;
- lagfree experience;
I now all features and youtube movies, but I am more interested in users opinions than biased reviewers.
Can take also other recommendations if the reason is posted.
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Whatever media saids about good batery life on mi9. My experience is not good. Bad batery life. Better goes for 6t. The development of 6t is more good than mi 9.

Battery life is really good imo.. check the sot thread here https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/review/screen-time-t3902207
While about development, dude 6t has been out for months and months already lol

SirTAVARES said:
if you prefer a 2018 to a 2019 phone...
i came from a op6t and i'm pretty happy with my choice
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Same here...I came from OP6 which had almost the same hardware as op6t (same chipset and camera, etc) . All in all, I prefer the mi9 in regards to hardware and features. But I much preferred the OP in regards to its android software.
-I'm getting about the same battery life out of the mi9.
-camera is much better in good light, but not as good in realy dark environments. (gcam is already doing a realy good job for me though, so early on. OP didn't have camera2api support either)
-Speed, I don't think you can realy feel a difference between the 2.
-amoled screen seems a bit better to me
-stock os is much better, and community support was realy good on op. Let's see about mi9, a few months after release ?

I suppose it depends on what's more important to you.
The Xiaomi is head and shoulders above the OnePlus as far as hardware specs go. But MIUI, for me, is awful, though it is very polarising and some people love it. OxygenOS is arguably the best vendor Android flavour by quite a long way.
I'm in a similar situation and an looking to upgrade, made more urgent last week by my OnePlus 3 getting a fatal dunking.
I've come close to buying a Mi 9 a couple of times over the last month, but the thought of being stuck with MIUI until custom ROM support becomes more mature keeps putting me off. If I could get LineageOS on it, I'd have already bought it, as it's by far the best bang for your buck.
OnePlus devices have by far the best community development and you'll always have a multitude of options with them.
I'm now going to wait for another 5 weeks and see what price tag OnePlus put on the 7 and 7 pro and if they continue to move the price north in the same way it's gone since the 5, then hopefully there will be some ROM alternatives for the Mi 9 other than the xiaomi.eu version of MIUI

ahmadshuib said:
Whatever media saids about good batery life on mi9. My experience is not good. Bad batery life. Better goes for 6t. The development of 6t is more good than mi 9.
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I would add something on this. Development is still pretty new, which means it's kinda hard to do tech stuffs. I agree that stock MIUI has a horrible battery life in Mi 9. I recently switched to xiaomi.eu and battery life has significantly increase. I would say about 1.5-2x better than stock MIUI.

I was on OP6. The camera got broken and I got my money back, because the seller couldn't repair it. I was in almost same position as you and had an rooted A1 as backup phone. I bought the mi9 because op6t is almost the same compared to OP6. If you have time go for OP7. I hadn't time and wanted to try again with a Xiaomi that's why I went for mi9.

Robbo.5000 said:
I suppose it depends on what's more important to you.
The Xiaomi is head and shoulders above the OnePlus as far as hardware specs go. But MIUI, for me, is awful, though it is very polarising and some people love it. OxygenOS is arguably the best vendor Android flavour by quite a long way.
I'm in a similar situation and an looking to upgrade, made more urgent last week by my OnePlus 3 getting a fatal dunking.
I've come close to buying a Mi 9 a couple of times over the last month, but the thought of being stuck with MIUI until custom ROM support becomes more mature keeps putting me off. If I could get LineageOS on it, I'd have already bought it, as it's by far the best bang for your buck.
OnePlus devices have by far the best community development and you'll always have a multitude of options with them.
I'm now going to wait for another 5 weeks and see what price tag OnePlus put on the 7 and 7 pro and if they continue to move the price north in the same way it's gone since the 5, then hopefully there will be some ROM alternatives for the Mi 9 other than the xiaomi.eu version of MIUI
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I'm at the exact same point waiting for op7 since Xiaomi miui puts me off since I don't want to instantly unlock new phone and start maintaining os by myself. But if I had to I'll put pixel experience in it gcam and I think I'll be good device for a few years to come not really picky about camera and all since I'm still using my op2.

Could you guys compare the battery life between mi9 and op6t? Because this is my biggest concern to buy a new phone.

Robbo.5000 said:
I suppose it depends on what's more important to you.
The Xiaomi is head and shoulders above the OnePlus as far as hardware specs go. But MIUI, for me, is awful, though it is very polarising and some people love it. OxygenOS is arguably the best vendor Android flavour by quite a long way.
I'm in a similar situation and an looking to upgrade, made more urgent last week by my OnePlus 3 getting a fatal dunking.
I've come close to buying a Mi 9 a couple of times over the last month, but the thought of being stuck with MIUI until custom ROM support becomes more mature keeps putting me off. If I could get LineageOS on it, I'd have already bought it, as it's by far the best bang for your buck.
OnePlus devices have by far the best community development and you'll always have a multitude of options with them.
I'm now going to wait for another 5 weeks and see what price tag OnePlus put on the 7 and 7 pro and if they continue to move the price north in the same way it's gone since the 5, then hopefully there will be some ROM alternatives for the Mi 9 other than the xiaomi.eu version of MIUI
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Same for me, will wait few more weeks, but unfortunately I'm stuck on a Mi A1 and it's harder and harder to cope with it. Any idea about price range for OP7?

catalindobre said:
Same for me, will wait few more weeks, but unfortunately I'm stuck on a Mi A1 and it's harder and harder to cope with it. Any idea about price range for OP7?
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The OP6 and 6T were a bit more expensive than the Mi 8 at launch, forget how much but maybe around $75 (I seem to remember it being more than $50, but not as much as $100). So I'm expecting the OP7 to be a bit more than the Mi 9.
However, and this is my own personal speculating so could be completely wrong, I'm wondering, with the fact that they'll be releasing a pro version too, if they'll lower both the specs and price slightly of the standard OP7 and bring it in at the same price as the Mi 9.

I've had both. The 6T had better software and better battery but the camera on the mi9 is quite a bit better. Depends on your order of importance but I prefer the mi9 over the 6T

Hello all
Just broke my good old OP3, and I purschased this mi9
I loved the ROM development on my OP3, and it seems the xiaomi mi9 hasn't any custom ROM development at all (Where are my ResurectioNRemix, Lineage, SkyDragon Roms, etc.. ) ??
I don't like the MIUI 10 interface, I will try the POCO launcher, but I really would like to flash another custom ROM
When do you think there will be nice Lineage ROM on MI9 ?
For now, I don't think it's necessary to unlock bootloader and flash twrp, cause there is no nice ROM to flash ( correct me if I'm wrong ) ?
Edit : Otherwise, I read here about a 'xiaomi.eu 'rom.
What is it about exactly, what are the changes compared to the stock MIUI original ROM ? and is it flashable without twrp ?
Thanks a lot !

I was in the same situation and I decided to go with Mi 9.
Mainly because of Snapdragon 855 (+20% Performance improvement +20% Battery improvement)
And for the price. (I bought the 128GB model at 429€)

4Freedom said:
I was in the same situation and I decided to go with Mi 9.
Mainly because of Snapdragon 855 (+20% Performance improvement +20% Battery improvement)
And for the price. (I bought the 128GB model at 429€)
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Just curious:where did you buy it for that price?

pv979 said:
Just curious:where did you buy it for that price?
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MOBZILLA:good: (From Italy)

the only thing holding me back to buy a Mi9 is that there is no custom rom support yet. Simply cant stand MemeUI
perhaps wait for Op7?

Just read this
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-eu-xiaomi-mi-9-fixes-everything-wrong-with-miui/
ManuBBXX said:
Hello all
Just broke my good old OP3, and I purschased this mi9
I loved the ROM development on my OP3, and it seems the xiaomi mi9 hasn't any custom ROM development at all (Where are my ResurectioNRemix, Lineage, SkyDragon Roms, etc.. ) ??
I don't like the MIUI 10 interface, I will try the POCO launcher, but I really would like to flash another custom ROM
When do you think there will be nice Lineage ROM on MI9 ?
For now, I don't think it's necessary to unlock bootloader and flash twrp, cause there is no nice ROM to flash ( correct me if I'm wrong ) ?
Edit : Otherwise, I read here about a 'xiaomi.eu 'rom.
What is it about exactly, what are the changes compared to the stock MIUI original ROM ? and is it flashable without twrp ?
Thanks a lot !
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Do you guys think Mi 9 will be a better option over Pixel 3XL now? The only thing that is swaying me to that is the stock experience and the camera. Can't think of OP devices as my country doesn't really offer it as an option unless i buy from overseas without warranty. Trying to upgrade from a Mi Mix 2. I see that the development for this phone is not that strong yet (hopefully it'll pick up as time goes by). Any thoughts?

can't really decide.

Question About to buy a new phone and have an honest question

Hi all,
I have not been on the forums for a looong time.
I am about to upgrade from my P20 pro and I am trying to decide between the iPhone 12 Pro max, Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra and Xiaomi Mi11 Ultra.
The problem with the iPhone for me is the display refresh rate, the fingerprint scanner and the OS. I prefer Android and I prefer 120Hz refresh rate.
I am leaning towards both android choices. However I have watched all reviews and comparisons I could between these phones on youtube and I have a few issues:
1. I think I did not see a single review with the latest Mi 11 Ultra firmware and the xiaomi.eu ROM. This is bugging me because I cannot see a comparison with the latest updates on the cameras.
2. From the videos I watched it seems the selfie camera on the Mi 11 Ultra is a real letdown. And the rear camera used to take selfies also seem to produce bad results.
Can anyone who has used both phones give an honest opinion please?
Or someone who is using the latest firmware explain the impact of the updates since the release of the phone?
Thank you!

Buy iphone 12 pro max. Is good everywhere

avetny said:
Buy iphone 12 pro max. Is good everywhere
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I am sad to hear this to be honest, but somehow I was always seeing things in both Android phones especially in video recording that were annoying as hell.
Or maybe I wait for Pixel 6 to see ...

I don't have a S21 Ultra or iPhone 12 Pro Max but I do have a P40 Pro which I still thought was the best camera phone to date.
When I bought Mi 11 Ultra, I was close to returning it because I couldn't be more disappointed by its camera performance after hearing how amazing this new sensor is. I wanted to wait for the P50 Pro even if it did not have Google app support as the camera is my #1 priority and I'm a light app user.
However, it's been a month or two and even being on CN stable firmware the camera has improved massively and I no longer regret my decision and have little complaints overall about the phone. I took a lot of sample shots on slightly older firmware in my main thread and overall I'm very pleased with the results and it can only keep improving given it's not even officially out still in some countries.
I'm now on v12.5.7 and to give you a rough idea of all the updates I received on the CN model, I've gotten at least 5 updates since receiving it. Most YouTubers such as MKBHD and MrWhosetheboss were still on early stock firmware that had no camera improvements and optimizations, while they compared it to the S21U and iPhone 12 Pro Max which were all well optimized by then. This meant their results weren't that great or convincing.

kyero985 said:
I don't have a S21 Ultra or iPhone 12 Pro Max but I do have a P40 Pro which I still thought was the best camera phone to date.
When I bought Mi 11 Ultra, I was about to return it because I couldn't be more disappointed by its camera performance after hearing how amazing this new sensor is. I was considering waiting for the P50 Pro even if it did not have Google app support as the camera is my main priority and I don't use it a lot of apps anyway.
However, it's been a month or two and even being on CN stable firmware the camera has improved massively and I no longer regret my decision. I took some sample shots on slightly older firmware but I'm still very pleased with the results and it can only keep improving given it's not even officially out still in some countries.
I'm now sitting on 12.5.7 and to give you a rough idea of all the updates I received on the CN model, I've gotten at least 5 updates to date. Most reviewers including MKBHD and MrWhosetheboss were still on early stock firmware that had no camera improvements and optimizations, while they compared it to the S21U and iPhone 12 Pro Max which were all well optimized by then.
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What improved in the camera?
Also what do you think about the selfies? Be it with front or back camera

m2]iceman said:
What improved in the camera?
Also what do you think about the selfies? Be it with front or back camera
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Everything improved across the board with one of the main updates that rolled out. Here's one which got the most attention that the majority of reviewers from what I've seen never got to test: https://min.news/en/tech/590f98d68b0fdbb259d5fd644b74d23c.html
There's been at least two more updates that were released after that one even they didn't mention camera improvements specifically. As for selfies, I don't take enough of them to say but I generally use the rear camera with the viewfinder for the best quality and it definitely delivers the results since the front one isn't great.

m2]iceman said:
Hi all,
I have not been on the forums for a looong time.
I am about to upgrade from my P20 pro and I am trying to decide between the iPhone 12 Pro max, Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra and Xiaomi Mi11 Ultra.
The problem with the iPhone for me is the display refresh rate, the fingerprint scanner and the OS. I prefer Android and I prefer 120Hz refresh rate.
I am leaning towards both android choices. However I have watched all reviews and comparisons I could between these phones on youtube and I have a few issues:
1. I think I did not see a single review with the latest Mi 11 Ultra firmware and the xiaomi.eu ROM. This is bugging me because I cannot see a comparison with the latest updates on the cameras.
2. From the videos I watched it seems the selfie camera on the Mi 11 Ultra is a real letdown. And the rear camera used to take selfies also seem to produce bad results.
Can anyone who has used both phones give an honest opinion please?
Or someone who is using the latest firmware explain the impact of the updates since the release of the phone?
Thank you!
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Just so you understand, the Xiaomi EU ROM is based on the Chinese stable or weekly beta ROMS. There are plenty of added extras on this against any of the stock versions but the EU Devs don't write any apps, just apply their template to the relevant release. So whatever the status is of the equivalent Chinese stock ROM will be the same version on the EU ROM.
I came from Huawei too, my last being the P40Pro Plus and my first Xiaomi was the 10 Ultra and I was very pleased and that continues with the 11 Ultra. I have used stock Chinese and Global ROMs with the 11 Ultra and just love the EU version. I use the weekly branch and have had no issues at all. It is a very good all round phone and matches if not surpasses the Huawei. I had to give in me due to the lack of GMS and locked bootloaders. It was such a shame when they went down that road. Thankfully Xiaomi don't mind if you unlock but do make you wait 7 days to complete the process but once unlocked, you can swap to any stock or custom ROMs you want. Telegram has groups making camera mods and of course you can use a g-cam variant too but for me stock EU camera is pretty dam good. Multicam, super moon, slow-mo, time lapse and more.
There are a few camera comparisons against the iPhone 12 about and I think the 11 Ultra is as good or not better in some but really it's down to Android verses Apple. Make the choice that suits but I think as a user's phone, the 11 Ultra is the better choice against a phone you can never tweak with Apples.

Buy Mi11 Ultra
Things like 67W charging, IR blaster, rear display, amazing camera trick features, you won't find this on any iPhone or Samsung, the customization on Xiaomi is unrivalled, nothing else comes close.
I switched from Note 20 Ultra to Mi11 Ultra and I am never going back to Samsung.
Also, the fingerprint sensor on Samsung Note 20 Ultra was terrible, the fingerprint on my Xiaomi Mi11 Ultra works literally every single time, it has not failed once. And I love the super wallpapers so much

This is an incredibly hard question to answer. Nobody can answer you objectively.
I have always had 2 phones - an android and an iPhone. I've only recently got the 11Ultra, coming from a Note 20. I also have a 12 Pro Max.
The mi is incredibly smooth - far more so than the iPhone. But I hated the Chinese underpinnings which you could never quite get rid of. Moving to the EU ROM today has sorted that.
What of the cameras? I'm still testing. I only started with my mi on 12.5.4 and then 12.5.7 so I missed the early firmware. They've always been very good. But so is the iPhone. The iPhone is also incredibly consistent in so many situations. The mi is phenomenal in good light - I just haven't yet been able to test it much in poor light yet, although I'm pleased with the initial results, I have to say.

The fast charging sealed the deal for me
The cooling is also better so it gets consistently higher scores from the SD 888 without throttling it down 10-20%
I would agree someone needs to do another test on YouTube when the phone and rear display has been optimized and fully functional
All the tests were done on pre release software vs optimized s21u and iPhone which was hardly fair

Honestly, apart from the design, this Xiami 11 Ultra is the best of the best (I only prefer Samsung for the phone design, but I like the Xiami too). It has a lot of potential and is blazing fast. Also the display is astonishing, and speaker quality incredible. I would recommend this phone to everyone.

m2]iceman said:
Hi all,
I have not been on the forums for a looong time.
I am about to upgrade from my P20 pro and I am trying to decide between the iPhone 12 Pro max, Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra and Xiaomi Mi11 Ultra.
The problem with the iPhone for me is the display refresh rate, the fingerprint scanner and the OS. I prefer Android and I prefer 120Hz refresh rate.
I am leaning towards both android choices. However I have watched all reviews and comparisons I could between these phones on youtube and I have a few issues:
1. I think I did not see a single review with the latest Mi 11 Ultra firmware and the xiaomi.eu ROM. This is bugging me because I cannot see a comparison with the latest updates on the cameras.
2. From the videos I watched it seems the selfie camera on the Mi 11 Ultra is a real letdown. And the rear camera used to take selfies also seem to produce bad results.
Can anyone who has used both phones give an honest opinion please?
Or someone who is using the latest firmware explain the impact of the updates since the release of the phone?
Thank you!
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This youtuber comparing with Miui 12.5.4

Question Is Mi 11 ultra worth it??

I am planning to buy either s21 ultra or mi 11 ultra.I live in asia.So my questions are:
Is there overheating issue??
Is battery life that bad??
How is the software updates in asia version of the mobile.
Is the shutter issue fixed?
Should i buy mi 11 ultra over s21 ultra??
Can you guys please help on choosing a phone.Would really appreciate it.

1. There is, but if you tune down resolution and refresh rate you get good results until they fix it, if they can
2. Dependes,6h screen on if you use it normaly with everything on, can go 9h in my case with FHD and 60hz
3. Moderate, like every 2 or 3 weeks
4.the delay still occasionally happens. might fix it if you remove all animations, havent tested.
5.Thats arguable, my opinion, depends on the price, but only s21 Ultra(snapdragon version) over Mi11 ultra. s21ultra Exynos has some limitations.

You said you live in Asia but where? If it is China you live then software update are quite frequent and battery life has improved a lot. Also if you check my thread on battery you can get useful information about how to save on battery life (I get 8h SoT easily on official global ROM still stuck on 12.5.4.0). Regarding the choice between the two phones, be aware that Mi 11 Ultra comes at a mich cheaper price and also with the battery charger included. You must consider then different aspects before buying a phone because indeed it's a phone you are buying not a camera if you know what I mean

ashboi said:
I am planning to buy either s21 ultra or mi 11 ultra.I live in asia.So my questions are:
Is there overheating issue??
Is battery life that bad??
How is the software updates in asia version of the mobile.
Is the shutter issue fixed?
Should i buy mi 11 ultra over s21 ultra??
Can you guys please help on choosing a phone.Would really appreciate it.
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Having the phone from mid may, I would say go for Samsung. I had enough with this phone. It supposed to be flagship, in reality we pay Xiaomi for the luxury to be used as guinea pigs. Even on the last stable version there's plenty of software bugs. For the amount of software updates this phone got, especially in China should tell you something is wrong with it. I wish I never bought it. Don't listen to the fanbois around here - they'll do everything to convince you xiaomi is better. Go to the S21 Ultra thread and check there how many problems they have. Then form an opinion for yourself. Good luck.

vanshee said:
Having the phone from mid may, I would say go for Samsung. I had enough with this phone. It supposed to be flagship, in reality we pay Xiaomi for the luxury to be used as guinea pigs. Even on the last stable version there's plenty of software bugs. For the amount of software updates this phone got, especially in China should tell you something is wrong with it. I wish I never bought it. Don't listen to the fanbois around here - they'll do everything to convince you xiaomi is better. Go to the S21 Ultra thread and check there how many problems they have. Then form an opinion for yourself. Good luck.
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Ok I agree about the problems are much less on Samsung .. I have both mi 11 ultra and s21 ultra snapdragon and I can confirm overall the Samsung is a much better phone (software options like dex, camera most of scenarios, accessories are literally everywhere and battery life) ...
BUT. Mi 11 ultra have the WOW factor! And it comes second only to Samsung with a lot cheaper price ,,, software tricks in EU ROM are unmatched and it will get better with 12.5 enhanced then miui 13
We can't consider a device as a bad device because there is only one device is better!

MIUI is the weakest aspect of Mi 11 ultra. The list of bugs is enormous, security updates are slow, and dark mode is a pain. For me, even the proximity sensor has not been working properly all the time and all apps; Sometimes the screen will turn on when it is held near the ear during a call. Overall, it is not a pleasant experience. I am not sure how is the feel of one UI. I bit and expect Samsung's skin to be somewhat better than MIUI.

great phone, but not great os. MIUI sucks.
i got it the cn ver at around usd830 for 12/256. if i can get s21 ultra at this price, i definitely take s21 ultra.

xNAPx said:
You said you live in Asia but where? If it is China you live then software update are quite frequent and battery life has improved a lot. Also if you check my thread on battery you can get useful information about how to save on battery life (I get 8h SoT easily on official global ROM still stuck on 12.5.4.0). Regarding the choice between the two phones, be aware that Mi 11 Ultra comes at a mich cheaper price and also with the battery charger included. You must consider then different aspects before buying a phone because indeed it's a phone you are buying not a camera if you know what I mean
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please can you put link for the thread of Saving battery?

dragondero said:
please can you put link for the thread of Saving battery?
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Sure thing
Reduce idle battery drain
Hello everyone,I left my phone overnight for 8 hours at 100% battery and after 8hours of idling it was at 80%,this seems to much for me. I'm on EEA firmware 12.5.3 and I debloated removing many apps what do you suggest to check or remove?
forum.xda-developers.com

xNAPx said:
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Reduce idle battery drain
Hello everyone,I left my phone overnight for 8 hours at 100% battery and after 8hours of idling it was at 80%,this seems to much for me. I'm on EEA firmware 12.5.3 and I debloated removing many apps what do you suggest to check or remove?
forum.xda-developers.com
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Many thanks

Question Should I buy the redmi note 10 pro?

In my country it has a great price and is one of my top options. But I hear that miui has a lot of problems. Should I look for another phone from another phone brand instead or do i buy the redmi note 10 pro?
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Edit: Im going to go with it and buy the redmi note 10 pro. People who have had it said that they didnt have any problems. I feel it in my guts that i will be happy if i buy this phone. Plus it has good specs, a big battery, a simple elegant design and miui has notification/quick toggle separation

I'd say no.
I went from a poco f1 to a redmi note 10 pro and apart from the charging speed and speakers it's a huge downgrade.
especially the camera and the sound through the 3.5mm port.

Look, MIUI is absolutely garbage. I wouldn't really recommend it unless you're 100% sure you want to install a custom rom at which point the phone is great. If you don't want to fiddle with that go for a samsung or something.

jklica said:
Look, MIUI is absolutely garbage. I wouldn't really recommend it unless you're 100% sure you want to install a custom rom at which point the phone is great. If you don't want to fiddle with that go for a samsung or something.
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Why is it garbage. I went form slow and laggy S21 with OneUI to Mi 11, then to Note 10 Pro because of 3.5mm and cheaper price.
This is overall the best device i ever had, even better than Mi 11 while cheaper.
Miui has more features and it's much faster than OneUI, no lag and battery is incredible.
I also tried few custom roms, features are limited, no face unlock, app lock, etc...
However i use EU model that doesn't have all the tracking and ads like global models do.
I would 100% recommend this phone.

I just received mine today as a cheap run-around but I have so far no issues what so ever with MIUI. Despite having quite a bit less powerful than my Tab S7+ it feels almost as smooth and snappy. The only issue I had with this device was with the IR blaster but that was purely inadequate software. Uninstalled the stock app and one free app from the Play Store later and the IR blaster functions as expected and I can operate every TV in the house with it. I also found the colours to be a little bit blander than my S7+ but there's an option in the settings for colour schemes to always enhance the colours which makes the world of difference and now I'd say it's comparable with the colours on my Tab S4 which still has a beautiful screen even by today's standards.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
Why is it garbage. I went form slow and laggy S21 with OneUI to Mi 11, then to Note 10 Pro because of 3.5mm and cheaper price.
This is overall the best device i ever had, even better than Mi 11 while cheaper.
Miui has more features and it's much faster than OneUI, no lag and battery is incredible.
I also tried few custom roms, features are limited, no face unlock, app lock, etc...
However i use EU model that doesn't have all the tracking and ads like global models do.
I would 100% recommend this phone.
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An S21 should not have been slow and laggy AT ALL. Perhaps there was something wrong?

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An S21 should not have been slow and laggy AT ALL. Perhaps there was something wrong?
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Every samsung is laggy as soon as you install couple of apps and fill half of the storage. MIUI is faster, also battery is non comparable, both charging speeds and drain.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
Every samsung is laggy as soon as you install couple of apps and fill half of the storage. MIUI is faster, also battery is non comparable, both charging speeds and drain.
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With the shear amount of Samsung devices I have I can tell you with absolute certainty that that statement is not true at all. I have over 70 GB worth of apps on my Tab S7+ right now and it isn't phased at all. Even my old Tab S4 has managed a good 40 GB of apps with no slow down what so ever.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
Why is it garbage. I went form slow and laggy S21 with OneUI to Mi 11, then to Note 10 Pro because of 3.5mm and cheaper price.
This is overall the best device i ever had, even better than Mi 11 while cheaper.
Miui has more features and it's much faster than OneUI, no lag and battery is incredible.
I also tried few custom roms, features are limited, no face unlock, app lock, etc...
However i use EU model that doesn't have all the tracking and ads like global models do.
I would 100% recommend this phone.
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Its simply impossible to have more lag in S21 than in Note 10 Pro no matter how many apps you install, I mean look at the specs. One of them is factually the best Android phone and top tier flagship, competing with the likes of Pixel 6 and iPhone 13, and the other is a low-midrange tier phone.
And who said OneUI has no app lock or face unlock?
Did you use the budget One UI lite for low range Samsung phones? Low end samsung phones are terrible. Please stop spreading false information, or even if its true someone 100% conned you into buying a faulty or fake S21.
The statement "S21 is better than Note 10 Pro" makes zero sense. Its like saying iPhone 4 is better than iPhone 13

Done't buy any Xiaomi phones unless you are a Chinese citizen or use Chinese apps (MIUI is very optimised for the Chinese ecosystem), or you want to flash a custom ROM.
If you are okay with flashing custom ROMs and have tight budget limits then go for it

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Its simply impossible to have more lag in S21 than in Note 10 Pro no matter how many apps you install, I mean look at the specs. One of them is factually the best Android phone and top tier flagship, competing with the likes of Pixel 6 and iPhone 13, and the other is a low-midrange tier phone.
And who said OneUI has no app lock or face unlock?
Did you use the budget One UI lite for low range Samsung phones? Low end samsung phones are terrible. Please stop spreading false information, or even if its true someone 100% conned you into buying a faulty or fake S21.
The statement "S21 is better than Note 10 Pro" makes zero sense. Its like saying iPhone 4 is better than iPhone 13
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Note 10 Pro is faster than S21 "original obviously". You Samsung fanboys are in denial Samsung has terrible ram management, bad multitasking and is laggyer than Miui.
As far as App Lock or Face unlock i was talking about custom roms for Note 10 Pro based on Android 12.
With both Mi 11 and 10 Pro i had much better experience, multitasking is super fast when switching opened apps. For me it has to be instant, maybe you guys have higher tolerance on samsung phones.
However i will check out S22 ultra with that SD 8 Gen1 and hope for the best.

reylie99 said:
In my country it has a great price and is one of my top options. But I hear that miui has a lot of problems. Should I look for another phone from another phone brand instead or do i buy the redmi note 10 pro?
Edit: Im going to go with it and buy the redmi note 10 pro. People who have had it said that they didnt have any problems. I feel it in my guts that i will be happy if i buy this phone. Plus it has good specs, a big battery, a simple elegant design and miui has notification/quick toggle separation
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RN10 Pro is best phone you can get *for the money*. Pointless to be comparing it to higher models which are higher price then saying its not as good.
So far stellar experience for me and MIUI 12.5 (esp EU) is superior to other custom ROMs. Native based MIUI ROMs ensure you get the best camera performance as non-native ROMs degrade cam performance in one way or another. MIUI 12 is a vast improvement over past MIUI versions, and I presume those who dont like MIUI are speaking with these past versions in mind.
No.1 criterial I went for RN10 Pro is 5000MaH battery. Higher up phones have smaller batteries and with their more powerful chips drain battery quicker. I use my phone as a PHONE, not as a gaming device. So its from that perspective I speak. Gamers will speak in other terms and with other criteria in mind.

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So far stellar experience for me and MIUI 12.5 (esp EU) is superior to other custom ROMs.
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Trying to automatically unlock the phone when connecting Bluetooth to the car, I had to learn that MIUI is crippled against standard Android. Its Smart Unlock only unlocks against Xiaomi devices! But
1. Xiaomi does not manufacture any car
2. I moved away from Apple because they tried to lock me in their product portfolio.
By having a Samsung Galaxy S3 I learned that Samsung modifications of Android are not good. But Xiaomi seems to be not better.
The Note 10 Pro is a good device, but MIUI is a disadvantage. Like TouchWiz is a disadvantage for Samsung which lets me ignore any Samsung device before having seen any test and never recommend a Samsung device. By disabling standard Android functionality for marketing reasons Xiaomi is on the way to the same personal mental trashcan.

nasseef said:
Done't buy any Xiaomi phones unless you are a Chinese citizen or use Chinese apps (MIUI is very optimised for the Chinese ecosystem), or you want to flash a custom ROM.
If you are okay with flashing custom ROMs and have tight budget limits then go for it
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No, I've had no trouble at all with MIUI. The only things I'm not bothered about are the occasional ads in system apps and Mi Music but that's personal preference. The ads can be freely turned off in the settings in Mi Music btw. I'm using a port of Samsung Music on it which works amazingly and Oto is excellent as well.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
Note 10 Pro is faster than S21 "original obviously". You Samsung fanboys are in denial Samsung has terrible ram management, bad multitasking and is laggyer than Miui.
As far as App Lock or Face unlock i was talking about custom roms for Note 10 Pro based on Android 12.
With both Mi 11 and 10 Pro i had much better experience, multitasking is super fast when switching opened apps. For me it has to be instant, maybe you guys have higher tolerance on samsung phones.
However i will check out S22 ultra with that SD 8 Gen1 and hope for the best.
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I get it. You're a troll. Move along. I have the hardware and it says otherwise.

simonjonnemeth said:
I get it. You're a troll. Move along. I have the hardware and it says otherwise.
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OneUI isn't faster than MIUI. That's a fact.
I wish it was, i wouldn't have to use this Chinese spyware.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
OneUI isn't faster than MIUI. That's a fact.
I wish it was, i wouldn't have to use this Chinese spyware.
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I have both MIUI 13.0.3 and OneUI 4.0 to hand right in front of me and I'll argue every day that that simply isn't true. Search Google for OneUI vs MIUI and see what comes up.

simonjonnemeth said:
I have both MIUI 13.0.3 and OneUI 4.0 to hand right in front of me and I'll argue every day that that simply isn't true. Search Google for OneUI vs MIUI and see what comes up.
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Had both, don't need to search. On S21 i had lag/stuttering issues while multitasking and switching apps, i have no such problems on MIUI.
However this was late last summer, and OneUI 4 was just released, so it's probably fixed. I also had A71 and recently A52s, and since those are mid range they are also not faster in regular use than mid range Note 10 Pro.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
Had both, don't need to search. On S21 i had lag/stuttering issues while multitasking and switching apps, i have no such problems on MIUI.
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As above, you shouldn't have had at all and I don't so there must have been something wrong.