Question I am a libran which means I can't make decisions - Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra

I am an Australian avid Google Pixel user currently on a Google Pixel 3 XL ready to upgrade. However the current Pixel line up is not exciting with no Pixel 5 XL. So for the first time i have considered switching to an Apple iPhone 12 Pro Max. Simply because I hate bloatware and can only really enjoy a pure stock android experience and therefore I am hesitate to get the Samsung S21 Ultra.
So my question is - Should I just get the Samsung S21 Ultra for now and follow one the Debloat S21 Ultra guides on here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...agship-samsung-huawei-oneplus-phones.4238473/) and hope that a pure android experience ROM is created in the future?
Is it likely there will be a pure android (Pixel experience or similar) ROM for the Samsung S21 Ultra in the future?

jarge11 said:
I am an Australian avid Google Pixel user currently on a Google Pixel 3 XL ready to upgrade. However the current Pixel line up is not exciting with no Pixel 5 XL. So for the first time i have considered switching to an Apple iPhone 12 Pro Max. Simply because I hate bloatware and can only really enjoy a pure stock android experience and therefore I am hesitate to get the Samsung S21 Ultra.
So my question is - Should I just get the Samsung S21 Ultra for now and follow one the Debloat S21 Ultra guides on here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...agship-samsung-huawei-oneplus-phones.4238473/) and hope that a pure android experience ROM is created in the future?
Is it likely there will be a pure android (Pixel experience or similar) ROM for the Samsung S21 Ultra in the future?
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You don't want a pure Android, it will limit functionality, especially the cameras. And if you mean pure as in stock but fully debloated, then again, you can just debloat it your self.
And if you truly are considering getting an iphone just because it has less preinstalled trash-apps, then you are better off with an iphone and not with Android.

jarge11 said:
I am an Australian avid Google Pixel user currently on a Google Pixel 3 XL ready to upgrade. However the current Pixel line up is not exciting with no Pixel 5 XL. So for the first time i have considered switching to an Apple iPhone 12 Pro Max. Simply because I hate bloatware and can only really enjoy a pure stock android experience and therefore I am hesitate to get the Samsung S21 Ultra.
So my question is - Should I just get the Samsung S21 Ultra for now and follow one the Debloat S21 Ultra guides on here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...agship-samsung-huawei-oneplus-phones.4238473/) and hope that a pure android experience ROM is created in the future?
Is it likely there will be a pure android (Pixel experience or similar) ROM for the Samsung S21 Ultra in the future?
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Another Libra here... I caved and bought the Ultra despite still being perfectly happy with the current Mate 20 Pro... I wanted the ginormous battery and screen plus the much better camera system.
Moderately happy so far, but had I paid full price, I would NOT be.
Sorry, can't even consider the Pixel route, Google seems to deliberately fk the users with subpar hardware and now higher prices.
Can't gamble with Pixel 6 ..the Samsung incentives have already expired.
I did debloat the phone to a reasonable extent, use GCam when I can, use Galaxy Max Hz to better control the refresh rate. A ton of available tweaks.
My 2 Canadian pesos... which also means I have the SD version.

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Coming From Pixel 3 XL - Doubts

Hi Everyone,
I recently bought the Exynos version of the Note 9 and will be handing the Pixel 3 XL to my wife. After reading through a lot of threads, I'm starting to have doubts if that was a wise decision. The reason why I went with Exynos is because I did not like the bloatware on my Tmobile Note 8 that I owned before and wanted to flash a custom Rom. I wanted to clarify a few things.
Will I have issues using the Exynos version with Tmobile? I read that I may be running into LTE issues?
Which Rom would you recommend that works without major issues? I know that this is a personal opinion. I don't want to load the Pixel Experience ROM if it means that half of the features will not be available. I am using Nova launcher, so the launcher is not that important to me. What is important is not losing features that make the Note 9 a Note 9, but also not having extra Samsung apps that I will never use but will slow down the phone or drain the battery. Basically, what I would want is the rawest Google experience without losing features.
Thanks!
You should of got the TMobile note 9 then flash the N960U1 UNLOCK firmware which has no bloatware.
damir831 said:
Hi Everyone,
I recently bought the Exynos version of the Note 9 and will be handing the Pixel 3 XL to my wife. After reading through a lot of threads, I'm starting to have doubts if that was a wise decision. The reason why I went with Exynos is because I did not like the bloatware on my Tmobile Note 8 that I owned before and wanted to flash a custom Rom. I wanted to clarify a few things.
Will I have issues using the Exynos version with Tmobile? I read that I may be running into LTE issues?
Which Rom would you recommend that works without major issues? I know that this is a personal opinion. I don't want to load the Pixel Experience ROM if it means that half of the features will not be available. I am using Nova launcher, so the launcher is not that important to me. What is important is not losing features that make the Note 9 a Note 9, but also not having extra Samsung apps that I will never use but will slow down the phone or drain the battery. Basically, what I would want is the rawest Google experience without losing features.
Thanks!
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I like the option of having an unlocked bootloader in case a more stable Pixel Experience Rom is eventually released. From what I understand, that is not an option with the Snapdragon...
I also like the dual sim option, where I can use my work and personal sims on one phone.
Many of the Samsung apps can be uninstalled or disbeled. Battery life is awesome on Note 9. I'm coming from a pixel 2 xl 128gb. A can say that I'm fully satisfied with Note 9. Camera received a huge improvement if compared with my past s9 plus and even compared with my old pixel. Google did a great job ruined Pixel 3 xl with that horrible notch.
Note 9 has full package that any smartphone user are looking for
My version is Snapdragon
damir831 said:
Hi Everyone,
I recently bought the Exynos version of the Note 9 and will be handing the Pixel 3 XL to my wife. After reading through a lot of threads, I'm starting to have doubts if that was a wise decision. The reason why I went with Exynos is because I did not like the bloatware on my Tmobile Note 8 that I owned before and wanted to flash a custom Rom. I wanted to clarify a few things.
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Basically, what I would want is the rawest Google experience without losing features.
Thanks!
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Cristiano Matos said:
Many of the Samsung apps can be uninstalled or disbeled. Battery life is awesome on Note 9. I'm coming from a pixel 2 xl 128gb. A can say that I'm fully satisfied with Note 9. Camera received a huge improvement if compared with my past s9 plus and even in compared with my old pixel. Google did a great job ruined Pixel 3 xl with that horrible notch.
Note 9 has full package that any smartphone user are looking for
My version is Snapdragon
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Here is the issue with the 960F: you will lose carrier aggregation, which means when you enter an area that uses a different LTE band for T-Mo, your phone won't automatically switch over like a T-Mobile branded model or the Unlocked U1 model would. It also doesn't support Band 71 (and maybe not Band 66), which is part of T-Mobile's advanced LTE Network.
You may also have some difficulty getting Samsung Pay to work, since your phone is from a different region.
And once you unlock the bootloader, you break Knox, and you lose Samsung Pay, Secure Folder, Samsung Pass, and some other features. PERMANENTLY. No way to recover them. Knox is an e-fuse, not software.
My recommendation would be to get the US Unlocked N960U1, or get the T-Mobile branded N960U and flash the U1 firmware. They are the same exact device hardware-wise and support all of T-Mo's LTE bands.
Then use either ADB commands or Package Disabler Pro to uninstall or disable any bloatware you want. You don't need root to do it. Just check the debloat thread. Honestly, I don't debloat anything. I hide the apps I don't use, and they neither take up memory or battery. Cause they aren't used.
If you don't like the Samsung Experience launcher, use Nova, or Rootless Pixel Launcher. And then apply the free Pixelized theme from the Samsung theme store. It will then look like a big Pixel 2 XL.
If you want to block Ads, follow the Adhell thread and build a copy of Adhell (I think we're on 3 or 3.1 now).
Then add a debit card to your Samsung Pay app, go to the grocery store and have some fun using your phone to buy them when the cashier tries to tell you they don't accept Apple Pay.
I was a Nexus and Pixel fanboy. I've had every Nexus since the Galaxy Nexus (what a ****show that phone was, but God I LOVED it). I've had a few Pixel XLs, and a couple Pixel 2 XLs. I have unlocked, rooted, and ROM'd till my eyes bled. I understand where you're coming from.
I've dabbled in other phones. I've has some Samsung's, some LGs, some Motos, and even a couple iPhones. I always came back to Nexus/Pixel.
Then I got the S8 Plus and I fell in love with Samsung Pay and Samsung Pass. But I didn't become a true Samsung fanboy until the Note 8.
I tried to go back to the Pixel 2 XL and just gor bored with it. I missed the Note features. So I sold it and now I have a 512GB Note 9. It's the ATT model, which I unlocked, flashed the U1 firmware, and am running on T-Mobile. No complaints. Haven't even given the Pixel 3 XL a second thought. It doesn't hold a candle to this phone. In MY opinion.
Thank you all for your replies. Very helpful.
Having had a Note 8 until October of this year, I do not mind losing Secure Folder and Samsung Pay to get rooting capabilities. I never used Secure Folder and while Samsung Pay was a cool feature to show off to friends when I first got it, I barely used it after the first month. Reason being - if I'm paying for something, I'm not at home and need to drive somewhere. If I'm driving, I need to bring my wallet/license.
Band 66 appears to supported with this Exynos version.
Band 71 is currently not supported where I live and by the time it is, I will probably be on my Note 11
Biggest drawback appears to be Carrier Aggregation. I work from home and am typically on Wifi about 90% of the time. This one I am OK with losing as I don't go over 2GB data on my Tmobile plan.
damir831 said:
Thank you all for your replies. Very helpful.
Having had a Note 8 until October of this year, I do not mind losing Secure Folder and Samsung Pay to get rooting capabilities. I never used Secure Folder and while Samsung Pay was a cool feature to show off to friends when I first got it, I barely used it after the first month. Reason being - if I'm paying for something, I'm not at home and need to drive somewhere. If I'm driving, I need to bring my wallet/license.
Band 66 appears to supported with this Exynos version.
Band 71 is currently not supported where I live and by the time it is, I will probably be on my Note 11
Biggest drawback appears to be Carrier Aggregation. I work from home and am typically on Wifi about 90% of the time. This one I am OK with losing as I don't go over 2GB data on my Tmobile plan.
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And some people don't care about SPay or Pass. Me, I can't live without them. I COULD, but you know what I mean. I use them all the time. I can just throw my DL in my pocket and not worry about someone stealing my debit and credit cards I'd they get ahold of my wallet. Especially nice at the gym when I don't want to carry my wallet around or put it in a locker. Also been handy a few times when I forgot my wallet, LOL.
And now I have a Gear S3, so I just pay with my watch.
I just wanted to update this thread for future reference in case someone as curious as me decides to do the same thing. So far the connection has been great. I have compared the speeds of my wife's Pixel 3 XL to my phone back to back from the same spot, and I'm getting about 45 mbps download speeds vs 60 mbps on the XL. The upload speeds for both are about 19 mbps.
Anyone who likes to mod roms and likes dual sim capabilities, getting this phone is a no brainer. 45 mbps lets you stream at 4k without any issues - so speeds higher than that are not necessary unless you use your phone to download a lot of data.
Having come from the Snapdragon 845 in the Oneplus 6T and the Pixel 3 XL, I can not tell any performance differences in real world scenarios. Only thing that I miss are the low light camera capabilities of the Pixel 3 XL.

honest opinion

Hello all note users. I currently have a new pixel 3 xl and have been offered a note 9 for it. I know this is a note thread but am looking for a little honest opinions on if I should make the trade. If you haven't used a pixel no offense your opinion won't help. I'm interested but am on the fence. If you have a pixel 3xl or 2 xl I would love to know what you think. Thanks guys
bill10 said:
Hello all note users. I currently have a new pixel 3 xl and have been offered a note 9 for it. I know this is a note thread but am looking for a little honest opinions on if I should make the trade. If you haven't used a pixel no offense your opinion won't help. I'm interested but am on the fence. If you have a pixel 3xl or 2 xl I would love to know what you think. Thanks guys
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Stick with the pixel if u are one of those that hates waiting for updates and prefers a generic android experience.
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Limeybastard said:
Stick with the pixel if u are one of those that hates waiting for updates and prefers a generic android experience.
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Not too concerned about the updates. I'm more interested in user experience. Battery for both will be fine for anyone, camera obviously better on the pixel and screen obviously on the note. Basically it boils down to user experience.
user experience is the best you can get on android, camera is more versatile than pixel's, vanilla droid is barebones and plain boring
bill10 said:
Hello all note users. I currently have a new pixel 3 xl and have been offered a note 9 for it. I know this is a note thread but am looking for a little honest opinions on if I should make the trade. If you haven't used a pixel no offense your opinion won't help. I'm interested but am on the fence. If you have a pixel 3xl or 2 xl I would love to know what you think. Thanks guys
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Well I just sold my Pixel 3XL today and am waiting for a S10+. I had the Note 9 for a while and liked it alot. My main reason for going to the 3XL was the camera but being with the phone for a few months all the little annoyances with bluetooth, screen not waking all the time with the double tap, crashing apps and things breaking with every update I am going back to Samsung. They are slower for the updates but they release a more polished and stable OS. I really think the Pie update is beautiful on the Note. Plus the hardware is far better. I didn't go for another Note 9 because I like the design and screen to body ratio on the 10+ better. As for your trade it is fair but only you can decide what is best for your needs and wants.
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Well I just sold my Pixel 3XL today and am waiting for a S10+. I had the Note 9 for a while and liked it alot. My main reason for going to the 3XL was the camera but being with the phone for a few months all the little annoyances with bluetooth, screen not waking all the time with the double tap, crashing apps and things breaking with every update I am going back to Samsung. They are slower for the updates but they release a more polished and stable OS. I really think the Pie update is beautiful on the Note. Plus the hardware is far better. I didn't go for another Note 9 because I like the design and screen to body ratio on the 10+ better. As for your trade it is fair but only you can decide what is best for your needs and wants.
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Thanks alot, I'm thinking I might just stick with what I have. From doing a little research it's not really an upgrade so I might just sell it when the note 10/pixel 4 xl comes out. I had Samsung for about 8 years straight and got sick of TouchWiz lag so I went with the pixel 2xl then the 3xl. If the 4xl doesn't wow me I'm done with Google and will be back with samsung:good:
As a pixel 3 and a note 9 owner, lets just say the pixel 3 is collecting dust and I will be selling it soon. The pixel 3 is probably the most boring phone I ever had. And the camera, IMO, is not better than the note 8.
My Pixel XL3 was returned (boring) and happily been enjoying the badboy Note 9 EXynos!
Oyeve said:
As a pixel 3 and a note 9 owner, lets just say the pixel 3 is collecting dust and I will be selling it soon. The pixel 3 is probably the most boring phone I ever had. And the camera, IMO, is not better than the note 8.
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Lol to each his own I Guess:laugh:
galaxys said:
My Pixel XL3 was returned (boring) and happily been enjoying the badboy Note 9 EXynos!
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Care to elaborate on how it's boring, come on guys help me out. From my s8+ days I found it to be almost phone suicide to root. The pixel phones can be rooted with tons of ROMs, kernels, mods..... Can be done by a 10 year old. Not sure it's necessarily boring?
All stock android phones are boring. Pixel, oneplus, pixel roms etc all offer the same experience. Thats a pro and a con.
If the Pixel was $5-600 it would be a better contender. But at similar cost to the Note and other fully featured phones(Huawei fanboy here) it doesnt compete.
Camera and updates are what youre paying for.
If youre a user like myself I can trade off a touch of speed for a device that includes everything plus some.
Im only a few days in with the Note but its the best overall device out and this is coming from a mate 20x/pixel 3 xl user.
Only thing its missing is ir blaster.
To be honest Samsung's One UI is probably allot closer to stock android that it was in it's previous iteration. Which is kinda good. However I am not a fan of the huge Notification Drawer as it is way to big when compared to what was on Samsung UI. Also allot of the key features from Samsung UI are now not present in One UI. That said the only good thing I like in Samsung's One UI is the new navigation gestures and the fact that you can turn off the on screen buttons.
intruda119 said:
All stock android phones are boring. Pixel, oneplus, pixel roms etc all offer the same experience. Thats a pro and a con.
If the Pixel was $5-600 it would be a better contender. But at similar cost to the Note and other fully featured phones(Huawei fanboy here) it doesnt compete.
Camera and updates are what youre paying for.
If youre a user like myself I can trade off a touch of speed for a device that includes everything plus some.
Im only a few days in with the Note but its the best overall device out and this is coming from a mate 20x/pixel 3 xl user.
Only thing its missing is ir blaster.
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i have this on my keychain:
Baseus R02 Type-C Smartphone IR Remote Controller
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32889797666.html

Question Pixel 3

I currently have a Verizon Pixel 3. I was looking to upgrade to the Pixel 5. The only problem is it doesn't seem like an upgrade. The camera is the most important feature for me. I also don't like Samsung bloatware.
Question:
Should I upgrade to the S21 Ultra or wait for the PIxel 5a?
droid10 said:
I currently have a Verizon Pixel 3. I was looking to upgrade to the Pixel 5. The only problem is it doesn't seem like an upgrade. The camera is the most important feature for me. I also don't like Samsung bloatware.
Question:
Should I upgrade to the S21 Ultra or wait for the PIxel 5a?
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I went from the pixel 3 to the 21 ultra and the camera is so worth dealing with Samsung's software but get it direct from Samsung not Verizon then you will not have Verizon's bloat. But if the next pixel is what your set on don't waste your time on the 5a get the 6. I am hearing good things about it.

Comparing samsung s20 fe (snapdragon) to Huawei p30 pro (2020)

Hi, I am new here and need some advise.
I am choosing between Huawei P30 PRO (2020) and Samsung s20 FE (snapdragon). Key features of importance are camera, battery life, screen quality and performance. I am really having troubles with choosing between the two handsets.
Would someone share their opinion, especially if the choice was similar to mine or based on your experience of a specific handset over time.
Many thanks
I think Huawei is finished giving android updates to it's phones, heard they're moving to their in-house OS that has android app compatibility. at the moment you can side load play store (can't remember if the P30 was before the ban and ships with PS), in the future who knows. I'd take a look at each phones sub reddit before spending any cash. neither is perfect. some have been unlucky with screen issues, many have had none at all on their FE. I have them myself.
if you plan to keep the phone a while that should be a factor in your choice. very slow custom rom and mod development on the FE, Huawei is bound to be livelier.
I have both these phones and they are both great. I got the P30 Pro New Edition when it came out last year. It's still fast and has great battery life and the cameras are very good. Huawei are still updating it with security patches (quarterly I think) and it got EMUI 11 about 3 months ago. But EMUI 11 is still based on Android 10 and don't expect the Android version to be updated even if the EMUI version does. Also coming later in the year is the update to Harmony OS which may (or maybe not) remove all Play Store access. Personally I'm looking forward to Harmony OS as it will be nice to be running something different and I also own the...
S20 FE 5G. This is also a good device with decent cameras and battery life. It feels less premium in the hand compared to the P30 Pro but that's because it is a less premium device! It has a plastic back and a flat screen compared to glass back and curved screen on the P30 Pro - some may well prefer both of these differences on the S20FE. Updates are more frequent on the Samsung - monthly - and they have committed to it being updated for another couple of Android versions. Personally I would lean towards the S20FE because of the long term support on both devices, the P30 Pro may well be OK but we can't be sure what will happen in a couple of years.
I own both because I use the desktop mode on both phones and, if your bothered, DeX (Samsung) is slightly better than Easy Projection (Huawei) but both do a decent job if you are interested.

Question Should I buy the redmi note 10 pro?

In my country it has a great price and is one of my top options. But I hear that miui has a lot of problems. Should I look for another phone from another phone brand instead or do i buy the redmi note 10 pro?
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Edit: Im going to go with it and buy the redmi note 10 pro. People who have had it said that they didnt have any problems. I feel it in my guts that i will be happy if i buy this phone. Plus it has good specs, a big battery, a simple elegant design and miui has notification/quick toggle separation
I'd say no.
I went from a poco f1 to a redmi note 10 pro and apart from the charging speed and speakers it's a huge downgrade.
especially the camera and the sound through the 3.5mm port.
Look, MIUI is absolutely garbage. I wouldn't really recommend it unless you're 100% sure you want to install a custom rom at which point the phone is great. If you don't want to fiddle with that go for a samsung or something.
jklica said:
Look, MIUI is absolutely garbage. I wouldn't really recommend it unless you're 100% sure you want to install a custom rom at which point the phone is great. If you don't want to fiddle with that go for a samsung or something.
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Why is it garbage. I went form slow and laggy S21 with OneUI to Mi 11, then to Note 10 Pro because of 3.5mm and cheaper price.
This is overall the best device i ever had, even better than Mi 11 while cheaper.
Miui has more features and it's much faster than OneUI, no lag and battery is incredible.
I also tried few custom roms, features are limited, no face unlock, app lock, etc...
However i use EU model that doesn't have all the tracking and ads like global models do.
I would 100% recommend this phone.
I just received mine today as a cheap run-around but I have so far no issues what so ever with MIUI. Despite having quite a bit less powerful than my Tab S7+ it feels almost as smooth and snappy. The only issue I had with this device was with the IR blaster but that was purely inadequate software. Uninstalled the stock app and one free app from the Play Store later and the IR blaster functions as expected and I can operate every TV in the house with it. I also found the colours to be a little bit blander than my S7+ but there's an option in the settings for colour schemes to always enhance the colours which makes the world of difference and now I'd say it's comparable with the colours on my Tab S4 which still has a beautiful screen even by today's standards.
Marvin.the.Martian said:
Why is it garbage. I went form slow and laggy S21 with OneUI to Mi 11, then to Note 10 Pro because of 3.5mm and cheaper price.
This is overall the best device i ever had, even better than Mi 11 while cheaper.
Miui has more features and it's much faster than OneUI, no lag and battery is incredible.
I also tried few custom roms, features are limited, no face unlock, app lock, etc...
However i use EU model that doesn't have all the tracking and ads like global models do.
I would 100% recommend this phone.
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An S21 should not have been slow and laggy AT ALL. Perhaps there was something wrong?
simonjonnemeth said:
An S21 should not have been slow and laggy AT ALL. Perhaps there was something wrong?
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Every samsung is laggy as soon as you install couple of apps and fill half of the storage. MIUI is faster, also battery is non comparable, both charging speeds and drain.
Marvin.the.Martian said:
Every samsung is laggy as soon as you install couple of apps and fill half of the storage. MIUI is faster, also battery is non comparable, both charging speeds and drain.
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With the shear amount of Samsung devices I have I can tell you with absolute certainty that that statement is not true at all. I have over 70 GB worth of apps on my Tab S7+ right now and it isn't phased at all. Even my old Tab S4 has managed a good 40 GB of apps with no slow down what so ever.
Marvin.the.Martian said:
Why is it garbage. I went form slow and laggy S21 with OneUI to Mi 11, then to Note 10 Pro because of 3.5mm and cheaper price.
This is overall the best device i ever had, even better than Mi 11 while cheaper.
Miui has more features and it's much faster than OneUI, no lag and battery is incredible.
I also tried few custom roms, features are limited, no face unlock, app lock, etc...
However i use EU model that doesn't have all the tracking and ads like global models do.
I would 100% recommend this phone.
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Its simply impossible to have more lag in S21 than in Note 10 Pro no matter how many apps you install, I mean look at the specs. One of them is factually the best Android phone and top tier flagship, competing with the likes of Pixel 6 and iPhone 13, and the other is a low-midrange tier phone.
And who said OneUI has no app lock or face unlock?
Did you use the budget One UI lite for low range Samsung phones? Low end samsung phones are terrible. Please stop spreading false information, or even if its true someone 100% conned you into buying a faulty or fake S21.
The statement "S21 is better than Note 10 Pro" makes zero sense. Its like saying iPhone 4 is better than iPhone 13
Done't buy any Xiaomi phones unless you are a Chinese citizen or use Chinese apps (MIUI is very optimised for the Chinese ecosystem), or you want to flash a custom ROM.
If you are okay with flashing custom ROMs and have tight budget limits then go for it
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Its simply impossible to have more lag in S21 than in Note 10 Pro no matter how many apps you install, I mean look at the specs. One of them is factually the best Android phone and top tier flagship, competing with the likes of Pixel 6 and iPhone 13, and the other is a low-midrange tier phone.
And who said OneUI has no app lock or face unlock?
Did you use the budget One UI lite for low range Samsung phones? Low end samsung phones are terrible. Please stop spreading false information, or even if its true someone 100% conned you into buying a faulty or fake S21.
The statement "S21 is better than Note 10 Pro" makes zero sense. Its like saying iPhone 4 is better than iPhone 13
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Note 10 Pro is faster than S21 "original obviously". You Samsung fanboys are in denial Samsung has terrible ram management, bad multitasking and is laggyer than Miui.
As far as App Lock or Face unlock i was talking about custom roms for Note 10 Pro based on Android 12.
With both Mi 11 and 10 Pro i had much better experience, multitasking is super fast when switching opened apps. For me it has to be instant, maybe you guys have higher tolerance on samsung phones.
However i will check out S22 ultra with that SD 8 Gen1 and hope for the best.
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In my country it has a great price and is one of my top options. But I hear that miui has a lot of problems. Should I look for another phone from another phone brand instead or do i buy the redmi note 10 pro?
Edit: Im going to go with it and buy the redmi note 10 pro. People who have had it said that they didnt have any problems. I feel it in my guts that i will be happy if i buy this phone. Plus it has good specs, a big battery, a simple elegant design and miui has notification/quick toggle separation
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RN10 Pro is best phone you can get *for the money*. Pointless to be comparing it to higher models which are higher price then saying its not as good.
So far stellar experience for me and MIUI 12.5 (esp EU) is superior to other custom ROMs. Native based MIUI ROMs ensure you get the best camera performance as non-native ROMs degrade cam performance in one way or another. MIUI 12 is a vast improvement over past MIUI versions, and I presume those who dont like MIUI are speaking with these past versions in mind.
No.1 criterial I went for RN10 Pro is 5000MaH battery. Higher up phones have smaller batteries and with their more powerful chips drain battery quicker. I use my phone as a PHONE, not as a gaming device. So its from that perspective I speak. Gamers will speak in other terms and with other criteria in mind.
taco9 said:
So far stellar experience for me and MIUI 12.5 (esp EU) is superior to other custom ROMs.
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Trying to automatically unlock the phone when connecting Bluetooth to the car, I had to learn that MIUI is crippled against standard Android. Its Smart Unlock only unlocks against Xiaomi devices! But
1. Xiaomi does not manufacture any car
2. I moved away from Apple because they tried to lock me in their product portfolio.
By having a Samsung Galaxy S3 I learned that Samsung modifications of Android are not good. But Xiaomi seems to be not better.
The Note 10 Pro is a good device, but MIUI is a disadvantage. Like TouchWiz is a disadvantage for Samsung which lets me ignore any Samsung device before having seen any test and never recommend a Samsung device. By disabling standard Android functionality for marketing reasons Xiaomi is on the way to the same personal mental trashcan.
nasseef said:
Done't buy any Xiaomi phones unless you are a Chinese citizen or use Chinese apps (MIUI is very optimised for the Chinese ecosystem), or you want to flash a custom ROM.
If you are okay with flashing custom ROMs and have tight budget limits then go for it
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No, I've had no trouble at all with MIUI. The only things I'm not bothered about are the occasional ads in system apps and Mi Music but that's personal preference. The ads can be freely turned off in the settings in Mi Music btw. I'm using a port of Samsung Music on it which works amazingly and Oto is excellent as well.
Marvin.the.Martian said:
Note 10 Pro is faster than S21 "original obviously". You Samsung fanboys are in denial Samsung has terrible ram management, bad multitasking and is laggyer than Miui.
As far as App Lock or Face unlock i was talking about custom roms for Note 10 Pro based on Android 12.
With both Mi 11 and 10 Pro i had much better experience, multitasking is super fast when switching opened apps. For me it has to be instant, maybe you guys have higher tolerance on samsung phones.
However i will check out S22 ultra with that SD 8 Gen1 and hope for the best.
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I get it. You're a troll. Move along. I have the hardware and it says otherwise.
simonjonnemeth said:
I get it. You're a troll. Move along. I have the hardware and it says otherwise.
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OneUI isn't faster than MIUI. That's a fact.
I wish it was, i wouldn't have to use this Chinese spyware.
Marvin.the.Martian said:
OneUI isn't faster than MIUI. That's a fact.
I wish it was, i wouldn't have to use this Chinese spyware.
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I have both MIUI 13.0.3 and OneUI 4.0 to hand right in front of me and I'll argue every day that that simply isn't true. Search Google for OneUI vs MIUI and see what comes up.
simonjonnemeth said:
I have both MIUI 13.0.3 and OneUI 4.0 to hand right in front of me and I'll argue every day that that simply isn't true. Search Google for OneUI vs MIUI and see what comes up.
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Had both, don't need to search. On S21 i had lag/stuttering issues while multitasking and switching apps, i have no such problems on MIUI.
However this was late last summer, and OneUI 4 was just released, so it's probably fixed. I also had A71 and recently A52s, and since those are mid range they are also not faster in regular use than mid range Note 10 Pro.
Marvin.the.Martian said:
Had both, don't need to search. On S21 i had lag/stuttering issues while multitasking and switching apps, i have no such problems on MIUI.
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As above, you shouldn't have had at all and I don't so there must have been something wrong.

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