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shooting in raw gives severe vignetting ?

i send a raw dng to lightroom and only the very center part of the image is properly exposed ?

I saw this in several other examples of 40mp shots. Seems inevitable with that many pixels in such a small sensor, likely can be remedied to a reasonable extent in Lightroom or similar. I don't know what people are expecting from 40mp shots here, it's obvious they'll be significantly compromised?

Raw is raw, so no preprocessing to remove the vignetting has been done. Create a lens profile in your favourite Raw converter or wait untill someone else did that job.
The raw benefits are there to reap, THANKS Huawei.
Ender

This was shot in 10mp mode (or is raw always 40mp ?)
I've locate other raws on the net that has the same effect.
at http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/huawei_p20_pro_review/sample_images/
It's not only that everything becomes darker at the edges, there is also a blue/green color cast.
This would make shooting in raw a real nightmare ?

enderffx said:
Raw is raw, so no preprocessing to remove the vignetting has been done. Create a lens profile in your favourite Raw converter or wait untill someone else did that job.
The raw benefits are there to reap, THANKS Huawei.
Ender
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Ok thanks for the reply , i understand that raw is supposed to be unprocessed sensor data , but i never considered that the exposure changes from center to edge of lense would be that bad.
I still hope that it has something to do with the multiple lenses , and maybe the data from one of the lenses is not properly processed in raw.
I had some similar trouble with the super ccd Fujifilm S3 Pro.

Hi,
no, itj just vignetting, something existing even on $10k lenses, just not as obvious.
Its all good & perfect, if you cannot create a lens profile for yourself, try Automatic or wait until someone in-the-know did so.
Ender

Vignetting is strong, but the biggest problem is the severe green tint around the centre and the purple tint in the middle of the image, it takes additional steps to fix this. Fixing vignetting is pretty easy, however, you will just increase the noise.
The problem is the small lens. You have to cover bigger sensor and you need bigger elements for that. Also, the lens is of pretty bad quality, quite soft, especially when you are not looking in the centre of the image.

I hope people understand what it actually mean to shoot in RAW :silly:

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I hope people understand what it actually mean to shoot in RAW :silly:
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Yes i know what raw file's are.
And you can only spot these lens imperfections using the raw file , since they are corrected away in the the processed jpg files.
Hence the title of the topic.
The P20 pro is the first time i'm peeking at raw files on such a tiny sensor/lens device. My other lenses are a bit more uniform across the image, so that surprised me a bit.
Makes me appreciate the auto jpg's on this phone a bit more, they already do a lot of work.
So far i am really in love with the night shot and silky water modes.

bk227865 said:
Yes i know what raw file's are.
And you can only spot these lens imperfections using the raw file , since they are corrected away in the the processed jpg files.
Hence the title of the topic.
The P20 pro is the first time i'm peeking at raw files on such a tiny sensor/lens device. My other lenses are a bit more uniform across the image, so that surprised me a bit.
Makes me appreciate the auto jpg's on this phone a bit more, they already do a lot of work.
So far i am really in love with the night shot and silky water modes.
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If we are into technical specification, its due to the larger sensor used in P20 Pro, its harder to provide even light/brightness when sensor size used is larger. Corner will have less brightness and sharpness.
Its like trying to cover a square piece of paper area using a bottom of our drinking glass. It will always left corner area uncovered.
This is also happening to most of Full Frame DSLR and Mirrorless professional camera.
We need a bigger (much bigger) honestly to technically fix this flaw. But that will come in cost of portability. And even by then, we still need to think about the light trajectory, because if there are to many light fall outside if sensor area, that would also cost us the image quality
Thats why company choose to use software solution to overcome this. And that what we see in 10MP mode, where the result already processed by the imaging engine. Removing vignette and adding sharpness. Aside from color toning of course.
For me, 40MP and RAW mode is to be used when i know that i gonna use the image professionally and gonna need to tweak it myself later using lightroom or photoshop. (Or even snapseed if am on high mobility)

otonieru said:
For me, 40MP and RAW mode is to be used when i know that i gonna use the image professionally and gonna need to tweak it myself later using lightroom or photoshop. (Or even snapseed if am on high mobility)
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I read something about a quad bayer sensor beeing used.
Is there any benifit in shooting at 10MP in relation to dynamic range ?
I other words is there more going on then just averaging pixels when 10MP mode is used ?
Like documented in the the sony IMX294CJK sensor ?
It uses a Quad Bayer structure, and outputs data binned in 2 × 2 pixel units in normal mode. In HDR mode, integration can be divided into long-time integration and short-time integration for each 2 pixels in the Quad array. In this case there is no time difference between long-time integration and short-time integration, which realizes HDR with little blending offset when imaging moving subjects "

Hi,
Look at this post where we can see the same issue with dng files for the LG G4 (until LG fixed it with the Marshmallow software update).
What's happening here is that there is no flat field correction embedded in the P20 pro dng file; when opening the dng in Lightroom for example, it's going to have strong vignetting and color cast in the corners.
I currently have a Mate 10 Pro and the issue with dng files is the same (I had to build my own profile). However I also had a P9 where the dng files were fine, so it doesn't look like that providing a DNG with flat field correction is now a priority for Huawei. We are very few users shooting RAW and complaining about this, which may explain this.
I have ordered a P20 Pro Twilight and should receive it hopefully at the end of next week (knowing that the estimated delivery date was delayed muliple times...).
I will create a correction profile and share it here.
If you want to create your own, here is a good link (navigate throught the website and follow the instructions): https://sites.google.com/site/cornerfix/home

vincent2167 said:
Hi,
Look at this post where we can see the same issue with dng files for the LG G4 (until LG fixed it with the Marshmallow software update).
What's happening here is that there is no flat field correction embedded in the P20 pro dng file; when opening the dng in Lightroom for example, it's going to have strong vignetting and color cast in the corners.
I currently have a Mate 10 Pro and the issue with dng files is the same (I had to build my own profile). However I also had a P9 where the dng files were fine, so it doesn't look like that providing a DNG with flat field correction is now a priority for Huawei. We are very few users shooting RAW and complaining about this, which may explain this.
I have ordered a P20 Pro Twilight and should receive it hopefully at the end of next week (knowing that the estimated delivery date was delayed muliple times...).
I will create a correction profile and share it here.
If you want to create your own, here is a good link (navigate throught the website and follow the instructions): https://sites.google.com/site/cornerfix/home
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Can u then please share with me that lens profile ? I am unable to get it right on my p20 Pro

I don't have the phone yet, but sure I will do it afterwards (hopefully by the end of the month).

I received the phone today and using my previous methodology of profile creation, I don't get satisfying results. I guess I will stick with JPEG for the moment, hoping that Huawei will fix the dng profile like LG did with the G4.

Dont worry OP, your phone is not faulty ..
Even though SONY Xperias dont support RAW, thay are a little like this too.. at the 19 or 23mpx setting... you do get a certain amount of barrel distortion towards the edges of the image.. It may be that Huawei look at this and try to do something, but it is normal at 40mpx.
One of the things I do to help this in my Street/Candid Photography with my Canon.. is try to keep your subject in the centre and as big as you can.. what goes on at the edges of your image is often just waste anyway.. also Use Tap to focus (Tap on your subject on the screen), by doing this, you set the cameras light metre to Centre Weighted, therefore setting optimal light settings, which prevents your subject being "blown out" or poorly lit in the image.. With Tiny camera sensors try to drop your horizon, so you avoid placing your subject against a bright sky or background, unless your using "Fill in" flash on the main area..
Dont forget, this phone is less than 6 weeks old and other than the NOKIA 1020, this type of Imaging sensor hasnt been done before, so Huawei/Leica might tweak the camera sensor with updates if the barrelling is that bad.. but until then.. stick with jpg if you can..
Hope that helps

Make your own correction profile in your processing software.
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vincent2167 said:
Hi,
Look at this post where we can see the same issue with dng files for the LG G4 (until LG fixed it with the Marshmallow software update).
What's happening here is that there is no flat field correction embedded in the P20 pro dng file; when opening the dng in Lightroom for example, it's going to have strong vignetting and color cast in the corners.
I currently have a Mate 10 Pro and the issue with dng files is the same (I had to build my own profile). However I also had a P9 where the dng files were fine, so it doesn't look like that providing a DNG with flat field correction is now a priority for Huawei. We are very few users shooting RAW and complaining about this, which may explain this.
I have ordered a P20 Pro Twilight and should receive it hopefully at the end of next week (knowing that the estimated delivery date was delayed muliple times...).
I will create a correction profile and share it here.
If you want to create your own, here is a good link (navigate throught the website and follow the instructions): https://sites.google.com/site/cornerfix/home
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I finally managed to create a profile that provides satisfactory results. You can download it here.
The instructions are the same than the ones provided in this post. The only difference is that under "Image Correction Options", I set up the Luminance value to 1 and Chroma value to 1.

vincent2167 said:
I finally managed to create a profile that provides satisfactory results. You can download it here.
The instructions are the same than the ones provided in this post. The only difference is that under "Image Correction Options", I set up the Luminance value to 1 and Chroma value to 1.
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Thank you so much, this works wonderfully!!! :good: The RAW files look great now and are so much easier to edit in Lightroom! That color cast was truly a nightmare!!!
Is there such a tool for Android? Or do we have to wait if Huawei will somehow correct their RAW with an update?

This is a GREAT topic!
Learned a lot.

First time Huawei, first time P20 Pro - few questions

Hello people,
I'm a long time Xiaomi-User.
I saw this phone for 300€ (used, but perfect condition) and decided to buy it and give it a chance.
If it would be not that great (for me, ofcourse), I'd sell it and buy the Mi 9, since I love MIUI.
But yeah, since I already ordered it, here are my questions:
1. Am I going to hate EMUI? (maybe someone has experience with both MIUI and EMUI)
2. How's the camera after all the updates? I watched YouTube videos but since most of the good videos are old, I thought I should ask here.
- low light?
- OIS working as it should?
- video stabilisation? are videos really that bad?
- selfie?
- other?
3. Battery should be good? Over 6 hours SoT possible?
4. Any other useful tips for me, as a newcommer to Huawei/P20 Pro? Some must have know-hows?
Thanks!

ermm.. bump?

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Hello. I will answer,of course with my personal opinions.
I work in IT,so I talk a lot on the phone,and I receive plenty of emails,I even browse 9gag a lot,Facebook,and still I get 1 day and a half of battery...so don't worry(but I also stopped from startup most of the apps,except the ones I want notifications from,usually messaging apps),and I manually Debloated it(you can uninstall system apps using ADB,without root and without unlocking the bootloader,so no problems with warranty - I just removed apps like Chrome,Google AI,google photos,google music,google Duo,google Drive).
I never used a Xiaomi,so I don't know how much you will like the interface,but it's easy to use once you get used to it.
You can even activate a drawer for apps if you don't like apps directly on home screen,notifications can be changed to "unread" instead of the default one with a dot on the app(I use unread,I like it better,so I know how many notifications I have per app).
Cameras are great(I hope your device is alright,since it's not new).
I have the european version with update 9.0.0.195
Cameras are really good with AI,and you have a Master AI slider,so you can disable it. An advice: after updating to latest version,wipe cache partition from Recovery(turn off the phone,then hold the volume + while turning it on,and do not release volume + button until it enters the recovery,then wipe cache partition).
After booting,just go to settings - apps - Camera - storage and wipe data for this app,so it will not use the old files from old version.
And an advice for photos with multiple people(doesn't matter if you use the selfie camera or back cameras).
When you're making group photos,with multiple persons,disable the portrait mode either by touching the little X besides the "Portrait mode",or by sliding to "Photo" mode. Because if portrait is enabled,it will focus on one person and blur the others...it seems it's not for multiple persons. Someone told me it's the same on Mate 20 Pro.
Video stabilization is not enabled when filming in 4K,but it works well with 1080p 60 fps(it's better on emui 9 than on emui 8).
Hope I helped. Cheers!

chorba69 said:
1. Am I going to hate EMUI? (maybe someone has experience with both MIUI and EMUI)
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I recently moved from Mi 6 to P20 Pro. I actually like EMUI more than MIUI.
First of all I'm a big fan of app drawer which is missing from MIUI and can be enabled in EMUI.
To my taste EMUI 9 looks (icons, settings order etc.) and works (animation smoothness, power management) better than MIUI 10.
Although both those things are only personal preference.
2. How's the camera after all the updates? I watched YouTube videos but since most of the good videos are old, I thought I should ask here.
- low light?
- OIS working as it should?
- video stabilisation? are videos really that bad?
- selfie?
- other?
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I'm a bad photographer, but even I manage to do some good pictures on P20 Pro. Night mode is great, and overall the camera software is way more polished than what I had on Mi 6. I can't compare difference in camera between EMUI 8 and EMUI 9 because I upgraded pretty much straight ahead.
3. Battery should be good? Over 6 hours SoT possible?
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I don't usually check SoT, but overall battery life is great. On average I charge the phone every 36 hours (usually when ~20% left). With Mi 6 is was a bit less.
4. Any other useful tips for me, as a newcommer to Huawei/P20 Pro? Some must have know-hows?
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1. As already mentioned - Use debloat to uninstall apps that you don't need (use with caution).
2. Disable automatic power management for apps you want to run constantly (Settings -> Battery -> App launch).
3. Learn how to use the Camera app.
4. Don't expect for very fast Android updates (as MIUI user you should be familiar with that).

@exodus394 , @arty_a ,
first of all, thanks for your answers!
My P20 Pro arrived today and I'm still testing everything.
I'm pretty happy with everything except maybe the camera. I couldnt test it 100% but the photos I took with the phone, arent that great.
Especially the night mode. I could almost say, it's maybe 20% better than with normal mode.. I dont know, maybe I'm doing something wrong.
I used gcam (google camera) on my Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 and the Night mode on gcam was like 50 times better than on P20 Pro, although Xiaomi doesnt have that good camera as P20 Pro has.
I already wiped cache via recovery and deleted cache+data from the camera app, but it's still not good.
Anything I could do wrong here?
I was thinking about debloating and will do it now.
@arty_a ,
what are the benefits of disabling the automatic power managment for apps?
If it's enabled, do I stop getting notifications for some apps? (like MIUI had a problem with)
And, what do you mena with "Learn how to use the Camera app"? Manual mode or something else?
Thanks again guys!

chorba69 said:
@exodus394 , @arty_a ,
first of all, thanks for your answers!
My P20 Pro arrived today and I'm still testing everything.
I'm pretty happy with everything except maybe the camera. I couldnt test it 100% but the photos I took with the phone, arent that great.
Especially the night mode. I could almost say, it's maybe 20% better than with normal mode.. I dont know, maybe I'm doing something wrong.
I used gcam (google camera) on my Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 and the Night mode on gcam was like 50 times better than on P20 Pro, although Xiaomi doesnt have that good camera as P20 Pro has.
I already wiped cache via recovery and deleted cache+data from the camera app, but it's still not good.
Anything I could do wrong here?
I was thinking about debloating and will do it now.
@arty_a ,
what are the benefits of disabling the automatic power managment for apps?
If it's enabled, do I stop getting notifications for some apps? (like MIUI had a problem with)
And, what do you mena with "Learn how to use the Camera app"? Manual mode or something else?
Thanks again guys!
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I think there is something wrong with your unit. P20 Pro is the best at night and low light photos. I even took photos in environments where I barely could see something with naked eye,but the phone took a lot of details,more than I could see...no phone can do that better at the moment.

exodus394 said:
I think there is something wrong with your unit. P20 Pro is the best at night and low light photos. I even took photos in environments where I barely could see something with naked eye,but the phone took a lot of details,more than I could see...no phone can do that better at the moment.
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Erm.. Can you upload maybe two photos? Normal and night mode?
Thanks!

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Erm.. Can you upload maybe two photos? Normal and night mode?
Thanks!
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Ok,I will do that in a few hours,the sun is still up right now.

chorba69 said:
what are the benefits of disabling the automatic power managment for apps?
If it's enabled, do I stop getting notifications for some apps? (like MIUI had a problem with)
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Exactly that.
In addition some apps can fail to autostart when triggered by other app (Waze + Spotify, AndroidAuto + pretty much everything). It's very annoying and frustrating when you run into it for the first time.
And, what do you mena with "Learn how to use the Camera app"? Manual mode or something else?
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Just check all the settings and modes you have, like "Beauty" and "Light" in Portrait mode, Pro mode where you can control pretty much everything, "More" where you have the slow-mo and a lot of other stuff.
Regarding "Night mode" try using it when it's really dark, not just low lite situation, that is where it shows its full power.

Very interesting thread. My question has to do with security. Since we all know about the allegations that have been thrown at Huawei about not being a secure phone since it is manufactured in China, what steps can the average Joe take to make this phone more safe without installing a custom ROM. I've already done the de-bloating steps listed here. Thanks in advance

manfly9884 said:
Very interesting thread. My question has to do with security. Since we all know about the allegations that have been thrown at Huawei about not being a secure phone since it is manufactured in China, what steps can the average Joe take to make this phone more safe without installing a custom ROM. I've already done the de-bloating steps listed here. Thanks in advance
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I apologize in advance for being harsh.
First of all - if you want to learn about this stuff go do some research, I mean, at least 5 first pages of google, don't ask anonymous people on a forum.
One of the things you will learn is that main concern about Huawei are not phones but other, enterprise, products - cellular network controllers, servers etc. Spying on people over phones is cool but not efficient, spying over governments and enterprises over their backbone and communication infrastructure is very efficient and scary.
Now, let me split my answer into 2 parts:
1) If you are concerned over hardware, don't use a smartphone at all. All manufacturers either produce their phones in China or at least use some hardware produced in China. If the Chinese want to physically bug your phone they will, even if it's an iPhone.
2) If you are concerned over software, then again, it's not only Huawei, pretty much any non-American manufacturer (Hauwei, Xiaomi, LG, even Samsung) can overnight push an OTA that will add "spying" software and I bet it will not be found immediately.
Now, if you are concerned about privacy and not security then:
1) If you use Apple or Google account you are already willingly give away a lot of your information to be processed by them.
2) If you have any social media account you do the same in addition to making parts of that information publicly accessible.
3) Regarding phone specific vendor (Huawei in this case) - don't use any vendor specific services (Huawei ID, built in Email app, AppGallery, etc.)
P.S. Custom ROMs can contain some "bad things" too.

Pros and cons of 9.1

As the title suggested..
Pros:
Dolby now available on wireless connection (Bluetooth)
Very smooth
App responsiveness
Camera
Cons:
None ATM
Feel free to comment your findings as well

you mention a pros for the camera. what was specifically new or better in 9.1 over 9.0?

tweedie said:
you mention a pros for the camera. what was specifically new or better in 9.1 over 9.0?
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Camera now has 30x zoom and moon mode..

pogi.paul0119 said:
Camera now has 30x zoom and moon mode..
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Plus easy way to turn on and off Master AI.

I was just going to say has it been updated with the P30 camera updates

Agreed !!
Pros:
Dolby now available on wireless connection (Bluetooth)
Very smooth
App responsiveness
Camera
+ (AI toggle for me, easy to access)
Cons:
None ATM
+ Cannot disable "App Suggestion" in drawer
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What is ATM instead for?

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What is ATM instead for?
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At the moment

How does it behave when rooted?
Possible to root when having unlocked bootloader?
Does the new filesystem mess thing up?
Does it work with a custom launcher? Can't live without nova prime.

Daniehabazin said:
How does it behave when rooted?
Possible to root when having unlocked bootloader?
Does the new filesystem mess thing up?
Does it work with a custom launcher? Can't live without nova prime.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79681506&postcount=9
not the same device but still.

jericho246 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79681506&postcount=9
not the same device but still.
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Ok, thank you, still haven't had anything pop up in hicare, could be that I've messed to much with my phone or maybe because it's not out for my phone yet, but I'm thinking of holding off. It's summer and maybe my phone needs a brake too
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so before to update i played a bit with the software i tried like 5 of them with both methods ,dload and hi suite , witch success but ,the best one for me it was the 263 witch is the loudest software for me
i tried a newer one 266 and 276 all works fine but i had to use an amplifier from google play store to add +5 on the slider to be loud and crisp the sound nice for youtube .
with 9.1 now i don't have any options . only the apk from google play store . maybe later on they will release a louder version so i can swap )
But beside this i love the 30x zoom option .is usable and good , and i think it will be better with a small portable tripod
i will attach some demo for this guys who expect or they think before to update ,

Guys, this 30x zoom is simply 10x zoom with cropped out the smaller region of the photo. You can take 10x zoom photo and crop it to get the same results
For me 9.1 is a step forward of course, but still, I miss Samsung TouchWiz/OneUI. Huawei's Android is so buggy... My every previous Android phone was Samsung Galaxy and when I switched to Huawei I feel like I got, like, 5 years back (in Android evolution).
As a programmer, I feel like Huawei presses their programmers to add as many features as other companies have in their devices, but they don't have the time/money to really polish these features, so they deploy it as it is, just so they can check them as "done".
Oh and I was hoping for new version of "Always on display" with support of third apps icons, but even in 9.1 this feature still sucks (for example, every notification icon disappear when the screen wakes up and goes black again) and lacks any kind of settings.
To sum up, 9.1 didn't change anything "big", and all the bugs I notice everyday - they are still here. And I miss Samsung

Con: Have to hold the power button way too long to get the shutdown menu to appear

Have you noticed that 9.1 is even much more aggressive when it comes to keeping apps in the background memory? Apps are being killed very quickly.

YES!!! Bluetooth Absolute Volume is at least an option now! It's hidden in Developer Settings, but it's there.... Now just to check if it works
Not sure on memory management yet

For me it feels a little bit smoother and that's all, pretty much the same emui for me. That ai button on the camera app is a great addition imo!

Absolute Volume does indeed work, but I'll definitely agree memory management is absolute GARBAGE with this new build. Seriously, Pixel phones don't kill tasks as quick!

Making long exposure photos at daylight

Hi guys,
on my trip to Ireland I missed a nice feature of my old Huawei P10 where I can set a mode for long exposure photography at daylight to make water look smooth (for example). Huawei made an extra mode for this including light burst and other nice features.
On the S10 I'm missing such a thing.
With the pro mode I can set the exposure time but the photos are getting way to bright.
Does someone know how to make such long exposure pictures with the S10?
Greetings,
Jannomag

@Jannomag
What you're trying to accomplish will require 'Pro' mode.
Click on the 'Galaxy S10+ - F-Stop & Exposure.jpg' screenshot I attached.
That should allow for longer exposure; anywhere from 1/24000 to 10 seconds.
The second screenshot, Galaxy S10+ - ISO.jpg, should assist if you're looking to introduce more/less light.
I don't find the Galaxy phones great for manual photography but, using the two settings together, you'll eventually find the right balance for you.

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@Jannomag
What you're trying to accomplish will require 'Pro' mode.
Click on the 'Galaxy S10+ - F-Stop & Exposure.jpg' screenshot I attached.
That should allow for longer exposure; anywhere from 1/24000 to 10 seconds.
The second screenshot, Galaxy S10+ - ISO.jpg, should assist if you're looking to introduce more/less light.
I don't find the Galaxy phones great for manual photography but, using the two settings together, you'll eventually find the right balance for you.
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As I mentioned it above, the photos are getting overexposed. See the example I attached. I used f1.5 with 1/4 exposure.
As an example I also attached a picture made with my wife's Huawei P20 and it's silk water mode.

Jannomag said:
As I mentioned it above, the photos are getting overexposed. See the example I attached. I used f1.5 with 1/4 exposure.
As an example I also attached a picture made with my wife's Huawei P20 and it's silk water mode.
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I'm giving to provide some insight and kindly step away from this discussion.
Every hardware vendor approaches digital imaging differently. Meaning just because Huawei achieves one effect; doesn't necessarily mean Samsung isn't able to and vice-versa.
To the best of my knowledge, Samsung doesn't have a 'silky water mode' but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
For example, here is a reference image taken from a Galaxy S8 (a device from 2 years ago):
https://i.redd.it/gmmnsuguop311.png
The user in question, kiosk123, used the Samsung camera app and manually set his ISO to 50 with a 2 second exposure.
With a tripod and a similar setting, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do the same.
Here's a simple tutorial if you require more explanation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpBwaB7I4EM

AHE_XDA said:
I'm giving to provide some insight and kindly step away from this discussion.
Every hardware vendor approaches digital imaging differently. Meaning just because Huawei achieves one effect; doesn't necessarily mean Samsung isn't able to and vice-versa.
To the best of my knowledge, Samsung doesn't have a 'silky water mode' but that doesn't mean it's impossible.
For example, here is a reference image taken from a Galaxy S8 (a device from 2 years ago):
https://i.redd.it/gmmnsuguop311.png
The user in question, kiosk123, used the Samsung camera app and manually set his ISO to 50 with a 2 second exposure.
With a tripod and a similar setting, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do the same.
Here's a simple tutorial if you require more explanation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpBwaB7I4EM
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On night time or low light it's possible but on daylight, the photos are getting too bright. (Look at my Attachment, where I used ISO 50 and 1/4s shutter speed with f/1.5).
I think Huawei doesn't use the shutter speed for this effect. Instead they're using a series of pictures and merge them.
An app which does this would be also great, but I couldn't find any.

Jannomag said:
On night time or low light it's possible but on daylight, the photos are getting too bright. (Look at my Attachment, where I used ISO 50 and 1/4s shutter speed with f/1.5).
I think Huawei doesn't use the shutter speed for this effect. Instead they're using a series of pictures and merge them.
An app which does this would be also great, but I couldn't find any.
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Did you try editing the picture after actual shot ? Shoot in Raw and edit using Photoshop for android or snapseed.
Manual Exposure control helps but is disbaled when using manual shutter speed after 1/10 and I dont think we can capture the effect you need

pchetan2 said:
Did you try editing the picture after actual shot ? Shoot in Raw and edit using Photoshop for android or snapseed.
Manual Exposure control helps but is disbaled when using manual shutter speed after 1/10 and I dont think we can capture the effect you need
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I tried to edit it, yes. But it's way too bright.
I'll try to shoot many pictures in burst mode and combine them manually on PC. It's a handy work but it should work

Jannomag said:
I tried to edit it, yes. But it's way too bright.
I'll try to shoot many pictures in burst mode and combine them manually on PC. It's a handy work but it should work
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Have you tried using f2.4? Maybe it can help bringing the exposure down a little bit. Also, make sure to shoot RAW and later dial down the exposure all you can in Lightroom.

redsmith said:
Have you tried using f2.4? Maybe it can help bringing the exposure down a little bit. Also, make sure to shoot RAW and later dial down the exposure all you can in Lightroom.
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With f2.4 it's even e bit brighter. Also with RAW it's too bright to get back every part of the image. Some parts are completely white.
It's sad that there's no different app or that Samsung doesn't support those nice features. I used them often on my holiday trips. Also the light trail feature is quiet nice because sometimes the picture gets also too bright when shooting in cities with near street lamps.
nvm...I have to deal with it, it's sad for a 800€ phone but everything else is good.

You have to use ND filter to achieve the long exposure shot during daylight.

You're literally asking for something that doesn't work without an ND filter.
The whole point of LONG EXPOSURE is literally in the name.
You can't get "long exposure" without exposing the sensor to more and more light the longer the shutter is open.
Whatever huawei was doing isn't real long exposure during daylight because that is impossible without an ND filter over the lens.

The p20 uses software to average multiple expdures so you could so it in bright daylight. It worked really well and wish I had something similar on my s20

Fully stable Google Camera Mod version 6.2.x

Guys, I have wasted a lot of time finding the perfect camera to bring out the juice of redmi 5.
And now, I have came up with this.
Note:[important]
This camera mod is supported only in Pixel Experience pie normal edition's latest version with the stock pe pie kernel.
##read the full op before download.
As usual, the mod credit goes to (Arnova). i just found the trick, that's all. He created the files,not me.
(THESE ARE FOR PE RUNNING ANDROID PIE 9.0 ONLY. ANY OTHER VERSION WILL CAUSE PARSE ERROR ON INSTALLATION.)
Steps:
1.download the "install this first" (size around 30 mb) file. install and open it. give permissions and then exit.
2.Then download the "after configuration,install .."file.(size around 142 mb.)
then install it.
results:
1.the front camera works like charm.
u guys don't have to keep hdr+ off anymore.
hdr+, hdr+ enhanced, raw, portrait,night sight... everything works on front camera.
2.Back camera has some lag,,but gets normal if shooting in good lighting conditions. again, all the functions work.
slow motion shows and works, but the videos get very bad resolution.try installation of open camera to shoot the hell out of rosy.
It has google AWB implementation. highlight balance is just great. will provide photo samples below.
How it happened?:
i don't know.
Ask the devs how can a custom apk can be updated?
the first file was v5.2.x
the second file was 6.2.x and optimized for razer phone 2.
these both got merged and final size takes 142 mb of system memory. App takes time to launch.
important(2):
settings(must) to reduce lag:
1.turn off the auto focus data showing up on screen.
2.revert every function to google defaults.
3.follow screenshots.
Reply if u guys need to know anything more..
Nice to help u all.
https://mega.nz/#F!frAy2CCD!DTa31p1NsGUzJcNzn4iOyw

2 night sight samples.
1 daylight sample.

screenshots of suggested settings.

Thank you OP! Can confirm that Night Sight works perfectly; I have been getting 1/6s exposures with the app. However the same autofocus issue still remains.

Can i install for cusrom evolution X?? Answer please

Nishat14904BD said:
2 night sight samples.
1 daylight sample.
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Can you please update the link? It's not working.. and I need gcam for my pixel experience

Of course.
Sorry bro, i was busy in my exams

https://mega.nz/folder/frAy2CCD#DTa31p1NsGUzJcNzn4iOyw.

I can't install "after configuration,install.apk"

Looks like link is expired. Did you have a backup at your phone or somewhere else?

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