Is there ANYTHING I can do to make this device work in a sensible way?
I mean I find it deeply unsettling that I have yet to see anyone else complain about the huge design flaw this phone has.
That being, when I receive a call, the touch screen activates at the slightest touch. That doesn't make sense because I don't tie it to my wrist... I carry it in my pocket or my belt clip and even in my belt clip it presses random spots on the touch screen. I want it to not do that, first of all. In fact I don't want the phone to even turn on touch activation until I give it clearance to turn on, because otherwise it will stay there and randomly press buttons until I check my phone and realize someone called me an hour ago.
Because that's the thing—I need it on vibrate a vast majority of the time, I can't feel it vibrate but it'll open random programs or do random crap. I can always tell because whenever I decide to reach down and check my phone I feel it overheating, and I think, "Yup. Someone called me and I didn't hear or feel it vibrate." That's actually ridiculous. That's severely headache inducing at how completely backwards it is without the option to change it in settings. At least not that I've seen. As I've said, no one else is complaining about it... so what are you guys doing?
I'm sorry but as I said, this phone drives me nuts. I can't help but feel angry just by talking about it.
Actually you could either turn on the screen lock so that even if it turns on, it's locked and none of the buttons or screen touching will do anything, and the machine will turn itself off after a while.
Or,
you can install BSB tweaks and set it so that the phone doesn't turn on unless you tell it to.
Most of the time it's not the device, it's the user. Especially obvious when reading user reviews and most users claim features don't exist when in fact they never found them. Or phone is capable of certain things, but the user is not only unaware, they are angry the features are not there.
GET TO KNOW YOUR DEVICE or use available tweaks and information
use a loud ringtone, use vibrate, use a screenlock program... (S2U2 is excellent, but you may find it complex).
Or extend the phone ring time before it goes into voicemail (that's in phone settings I recall)
The phone is not perfect, but it can very easily be configured to avoid accidental answering or not noticing the call in the first place. That said, the standard options are not good...
To be fair, I'm not stupid, but I am pretty ignorant when it comes to stuff like this. Bear in mind I've been using an old flip phone for the majority of my life, and I've spent a good amount of time looking through my X1 for a setting that would make my phone work better. I've found nothing that would keep the touch screen off for incoming calls or texts, which genuinely irks me.
Yes I tried locking the phone for a while, but it's a pain getting a call and then not being able to answer in time because I notice it late, pull it out, and then have to unlock it to answer. Also, locking the phone didn't stop the touch screen from turning on and pressing random buttons... it was just that with it locked there were no buttons to press except the digit code and I might be right to guess that my phone would lock me out completely if I randomly hit the wrong buttons enough times. Also the backlight was draining the battery and it was overheating anyway. It didn't make a difference.
I also spent a generous amount of time on the internet looking for solutions, but as I've said, no one else seems to have had my problem, so I was certain I wouldn't find a solution until I asked for myself. Believe me, I wouldn't have posted anything here if I'd found one.
Anyway I'll try "tweaking" it as was suggested. Thanks for the help.
(Also bear in mind having to "tweak" a device DOES suggest it was badly designed in the first place, which was kind of my point. Paul C knows what I'm talkin' 'bout.)
Peace.
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To be fair, I'm not stupid, but I am pretty ignorant when it comes to stuff like this. Bear in mind I've been using an old flip phone for the majority of my life, and I've spent a good amount of time looking through my X1 for a setting that would make my phone work better. I've found nothing that would keep the touch screen off for incoming calls or texts, which genuinely irks me.
Yes I tried locking the phone for a while, but it's a pain getting a call and then not being able to answer in time because I notice it late, pull it out, and then have to unlock it to answer. Also, locking the phone didn't stop the touch screen from turning on and pressing random buttons... it was just that with it locked there were no buttons to press except the digit code and I might be right to guess that my phone would lock me out completely if I randomly hit the wrong buttons enough times. Also the backlight was draining the battery and it was overheating anyway. It didn't make a difference.
I also spent a generous amount of time on the internet looking for solutions, but as I've said, no one else seems to have had my problem, so I was certain I wouldn't find a solution until I asked for myself. Believe me, I wouldn't have posted anything here if I'd found one.
Anyway I'll try "tweaking" it as was suggested. Thanks for the help.
(Also bear in mind having to "tweak" a device DOES suggest it was badly designed in the first place, which was kind of my point. Paul C knows what I'm talkin' 'bout.)
Peace.
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First of all tweaking does not mean a phone was badly designed, tweaking or modding gives the option to add, remove, or change anything you want in your phone. With your logic every smart phone was badly design becuase everybody tweaks their phones. And what you are saying makes no freaking sense. How can you not answer a call when your phone is lock, the incoming call pops up on the screen? How is your phone turning on and pressing random buttons when it's locked lol? How about you give more info on what rom you are using becuase what your saying makes no dam sense.
Oh, come on, man. It was my first smart phone. If I wasn't giving it the benefit of the doubt that I COULD do something about my issues, I would've taken the phone back. Instead I posted here and asked, because I was fed up using the search function trying to figure out what I was doing.
With your logic every smart phone was badly design becuase everybody tweaks their phones.
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I'm sure most people don't tweak their phone to fix rudimentary issues that cripple the usability of the phone.
Don't get me wrong, I'm GLAD my issue can be fixed, and thank you. I'm just saying. I didn't know, and the result of not being able to figure it out was me being upset with the device.
Do you want to continue this pointless argument or can we just drop it now?
How can you not answer a call when your phone is lock, the incoming call pops up on the screen? How is your phone turning on and pressing random buttons when it's locked lol?
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The screen turns on regardless of whether or not it's locked. It rings, and the screen turns on, but instead of allowing you to answer right away, it prompts you for the pin to unlock it. So I CAN answer a call, just sometimes not fast enough because of factors I already specified.
And if I'm not aware I'm being called, when I miss the call the screen stays on in my belt clip, and every time the screen is touched, the backlight remains on. Since it keeps being touched, it never shuts off. And the only buttons on the screen are the pinpad numbers, so it just hits those instead. This is how I got the phone.
So, since whether I lock it or not I get the same annoyances, I choose not to lock it.
Also I have yet to find a tweak that keeps the phone's touch response off for receiving calls, and turns off the screen entirely when or if the call is missed. I would really benefit from something like that to prevent it opening random programs or texting landlines with "aufgfdjkw"...
I'll keep looking.
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Oh, come on, man. It was my first smart phone. If I wasn't giving it the benefit of the doubt that I COULD do something about my issues, I would've taken the phone back. Instead I posted here and asked, because I was fed up using the search function trying to figure out what I was doing.
I'm sure most people don't tweak their phone to fix rudimentary issues that cripple the usability of the phone.
Don't get me wrong, I'm GLAD my issue can be fixed, and thank you. I'm just saying. I didn't know, and the result of not being able to figure it out was me being upset with the device.
Do you want to continue this pointless argument or can we just drop it now?
The screen turns on regardless of whether or not it's locked. It rings, and the screen turns on, but instead of allowing you to answer right away, it prompts you for the pin to unlock it. So I CAN answer a call, just sometimes not fast enough because of factors I already specified.
And if I'm not aware I'm being called, when I miss the call the screen stays on in my belt clip, and every time the screen is touched, the backlight remains on. Since it keeps being touched, it never shuts off. And the only buttons on the screen are the pinpad numbers, so it just hits those instead. This is how I got the phone.
So, since whether I lock it or not I get the same annoyances, I choose not to lock it.
Also I have yet to find a tweak that keeps the phone's touch response off for receiving calls, and turns off the screen entirely when or if the call is missed. I would really benefit from something like that to prevent it opening random programs or texting landlines with "aufgfdjkw"...
I'll keep looking.
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For the 2nd time what rom are you using? 6.1 or 6.5? If it keeps being touched on your belt clip why not just keep your phone in your pocket instead? Also what is your backlight power time settings, like what is the time intervals of when you screen shuts off? Also maybe the latest version of the lock app S2U2 V2.41 might solve your problems. I've had my phone for 8 month's and have never experienced what you are saying or herd of but then again I don't keep my phone on a beltclip I keep it in my pocket. It sounds like S2U2 2.41 should help because it gives access to those options you want to change in the S2U2 settings.
This seems to be a rom problem. My phone does nothing you described. After the screen goes off it does not react to any touching of the screen at all. When its in standy mode (screen off) and a call comes in it reactivates the screen and the call can be answered either by touching the corresponding area of the screen or by pressing the green hardware button. The same behaviour can be witnessed when I lock the phone prior to the screen turning off. So I can say I have never experienced problems like you. My phone runs the latest stock rom for Switzerland (German) and is not branded.
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This seems to be a rom problem. My phone does nothing you described. After the screen goes off it does not react to any touching of the screen at all. When its in standy mode (screen off) and a call comes in it reactivates the screen and the call can be answered either by touching the corresponding area of the screen or by pressing the green hardware button. The same behaviour can be witnessed when I lock the phone prior to the screen turning off. So I can say I have never experienced problems like you. My phone runs the latest stock rom for Switzerland (German) and is not branded.
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My phone is the same way but I'm on a custom rom. He might have to flash is phone if nothing else works.
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I'm sure most people don't tweak their phone to fix rudimentary issues that cripple the usability of the phone.
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Everyones different, every one wants something to work a little differently.
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The screen turns on regardless of whether or not it's locked. It rings, and the screen turns on, but instead of allowing you to answer right away, it prompts you for the pin to unlock it. So I CAN answer a call, just sometimes not fast enough because of factors I already specified.
And if I'm not aware I'm being called, when I miss the call the screen stays on in my belt clip, and every time the screen is touched, the backlight remains on. Since it keeps being touched, it never shuts off. And the only buttons on the screen are the pinpad numbers, so it just hits those instead. This is how I got the phone.
So, since whether I lock it or not I get the same annoyances, I choose not to lock it.
Also I have yet to find a tweak that keeps the phone's touch response off for receiving calls, and turns off the screen entirely when or if the call is missed. I would really benefit from something like that to prevent it opening random programs or texting landlines with "aufgfdjkw"...
I'll keep looking.
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As mentioned previously there are many alternitive unlocking programs
Slide to unlock 2 (S2u2) is very good, customisable and free.
Here is the website http://ac-s2.com/ you can also find threads about it on XDA Developers.
I am currently using Throttle lock, Provides extra security without having to use pins, customisable, and free here is the website http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/Products/ThrottleLock/throttlelock-09
Once again you can find threads about it on XDA Developers.
to use either of these programs, just download the .cabs from the websites, transfer them to your phone and click on them to begin installation.
hope that helps.
For the 2nd time what rom are you using? 6.1 or 6.5?
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Everyones different, every one wants something to work a little differently.
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Yes, but I'm pretty sure no one wants their phone wasting batteries.
If it keeps being touched on your belt clip why not just keep your phone in your pocket instead?
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What difference would that make? I keep other things in my pocket that are probably more likely to hit the touch screen. Besides, I got the phone before I got a belt clip. It was in my pocket first. I thought the belt clip would make it better. Since it doesn't I still prefer the belt clip for the phone's accessibility.
Also what is your backlight power time settings, like what is the time intervals of when you screen shuts off?
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On that screen in the settings there's an option to turn off the device after a certain amount of time. Before, when I was in those settings, I had it unchecked, thinking it would turn the phone off completely. But it does exactly what I want—it disables the touch screen after a minute.
Still, that's not a perfect solution, but it helps a lot. That plus the lock app should make it well within working standards. Thank you.
SORRY FOR WASTING YOUR TIME GUYS. I take back what I said. I'm now an enlightened individual. I can build rainbows with my mouth.
Faceeat said:
Is there ANYTHING I can do to make this device work in a sensible way?
I mean I find it deeply unsettling that I have yet to see anyone else complain about the huge design flaw this phone has.
That being, when I receive a call, the touch screen activates at the slightest touch. That doesn't make sense because I don't tie it to my wrist... I carry it in my pocket or my belt clip and even in my belt clip it presses random spots on the touch screen. I want it to not do that, first of all. In fact I don't want the phone to even turn on touch activation until I give it clearance to turn on, because otherwise it will stay there and randomly press buttons until I check my phone and realize someone called me an hour ago.
Because that's the thing—I need it on vibrate a vast majority of the time, I can't feel it vibrate but it'll open random programs or do random crap. I can always tell because whenever I decide to reach down and check my phone I feel it overheating, and I think, "Yup. Someone called me and I didn't hear or feel it vibrate." That's actually ridiculous. That's severely headache inducing at how completely backwards it is without the option to change it in settings. At least not that I've seen. As I've said, no one else is complaining about it... so what are you guys doing?
I'm sorry but as I said, this phone drives me nuts. I can't help but feel angry just by talking about it.
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Maybe a magnet on your belt phone keeper
turns on the phone...........
Recently I also discovered that keeping X1 close to a second mobile phone MAKES X1 randomly open apps by itself....
Crazy but true!!!!
Once somebody calls you and quits,
without your reaction there's no way you can activate anything if your phone is locked with a code....
A short press of the power button suspends the screen? lol.
I was about to say it but sean0r beat me to it (by weeks lol)
I felt the same thing when I first bought the phone (1-2 hours).
I just usually set my backlight to turn off after 10-30 secs. (Settings->Power->Advance Tab)
And I also don't use the lock feature since I think it's more of a hassle then to just turn the screen off (power button, like sean0r said) then turn the screen on again when I'm about to use it. It basically does the same thing like the lock/unlock button, it help prevents unwanted screen touch, only I feel it's way way more faster than the unlock button (even if you configured the lock/unlock button, to lock quicker).
And since you're new, if you haven't used any of the great custom ROMs you should definitely try it!! Read the guides carefully though, I warn you it might be addictive =D
The custom ROMs and this great XDA community is what made me keep this phone despite this phone's poor poor poor poor poor...I mean horrible build quality! Sony should thank these guys...seriously...
Sorry for bumping an old thread...
I'll rebump - flash Mr. Rusch's Touch X ROM if you are a noob. It is slick, stable, and well configured by default.
It isn't the flashiest, but it is stable and convenient. I highly recommend for beginners.
Sounds like you're using the actual security lock with password, try just using the keylock where you slide it to use it. (Like iphone)
regardless, I think you should flash energie rom on your phone.
Ive flashed many many roms including spikegottis, 826x, and even various Titanium roms but energie is the best overall for speed, apps and reliability
Over the last few months I've lost some weight (so most of my shorts and pants are a little big now) and being the type of guy to put his phone in his pocket, I've been getting quite a few accidental calls.
Yes I am locking it 99% of the time. What happens is that I'm using a non-pattern unlock and while its moving around in my pocket my phone ends up opening the keyboard. What does this do? It wakes the screen. A little more tumbling around in my pocket = unlocked! and so on .
Is there a way to disable this? I can't seem to find one. I checked out an app called Confirm Call or something like that and it's just a button to confirm. Since it's just a button and not a pattern it'll just get tapped anyway in my pocket.
I'm trying to avoid using pattern lock as pattern lock make it tough to answer/check the phone at a traffic light or similar situations :-/
I think I've trawled the internet enough to know there doesn't seem to be a real way of doing this as far as disabling slider wake-up, and no dialers seem to use anything other than a Call Confirm button which would just be the same thing all over again, with one extra tap :-/.
There is one but doesn't seem to be able to disable slider wake up in 2.2/2.3 (or just 2.3)
What type of app do you want?
Elaborate what you need so people may help you.
You can try using slider only. Try if you can keep only one letter password and also disable press ok button after entering password.
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What I think would essentially work is an app or way by script that;
Disables slider-open screen wake.
I've searched about this and there doesn't seem to be a way that works on GB, only for eclair and maybe froyo.
In the mean time I've just realised that I could just put the dialer on a different bottom shortcut row . At least it makes it really difficult to make accidental calls but doesn't solve the whole unlocking-in-pocket problem I have and judging by the posts about it, quite a few others too.
Hi guys. Just wondering what peoples unlock set up is.
I have face recognition and pattern. Even though my hands are big enough i find the finger print scanner to be too much effort. I heard the retina scanner draws a lot of power so i dont use that.
I find the unlock pattern a bit of a nuisance and i get a little frustrated when the facial recognition doesnt work. Sony managed to put the print scanner on the side of their phine im sure samsung could have fit one in the space below the screen..... every method apart from the basic ones require you to pick up the phone.
So what are your unlock preferences?
My Pebble 2 as a trusted device. When I'm with my phone it's therefore unlocked
Fingerprint/pin unlock after 10 min, secure startup (pin).
Fingerprint for me it took like what half hour for me to get used to it being on the back of the phone
fingerprint is way quicker than any other unlock
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Fingerprint for me it took like what half hour for me to get used to it being on the back of the phone
fingerprint is way quicker than any other unlock
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Ive been using the iris scanner with samsung pay. Its pretty quick. Quicker than face scanner for me
None? I feel like I might be opening myself to bad things, but I like to just press hard on the bottom of the screen and boom, I'm into my phone.
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None? I feel like I might be opening myself to bad things, but I like to just press hard on the bottom of the screen and boom, I'm into my phone.
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If you've got nothing to hide and don't store any unencrypted sensitive data on your phone, then that's definitely the fastest option.
I use my Huawei watch as a trusted device. This allows a hard press of the home button and I'm in.
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None? I feel like I might be opening myself to bad things, but I like to just press hard on the bottom of the screen and boom, I'm into my phone.
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I didnt have any on my last phone (note 3) but with all the tech in this phone i feel obliged to use it lol
I have mine always unlocked (no security)
How to disable the home button when the screen is locked? The screen now activates when you touch the home button (finger reader) - later phone can be unlock by PIN or finger, but how to disable screen wake up by this butto?. I would like to block this possibility so that the screen wakes up only by pressing the on / off button.
Your P10 does this?
I tried it on my P10 a second ago. My phone only vibrates when I tap the homebutton with a finger or part of my skin which isn't getting recognized by the phone. But the screen stays of.
Which version are you on? I'm on VTR-L29C432B162
i have VTR-L29C432B151, and a wanne disable it, because it is very annoying.
Dude, you really don't understand how fingerprint scanner with its features works...
Workaround: just don't tap on that area
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Your P10 does this?
I tried it on my P10 a second ago. My phone only vibrates when I tap the homebutton with a finger or part of my skin which isn't getting recognized by the phone. But the screen stays of.
Which version are you on? I'm on VTR-L29C432B162
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When you deactivate the fingerprint reader to unlock your device(settings/fingerprint/screen unlock), then when you tap on the reader, when the device is locked, the screen turns on.
I personally use fingerprint to unlock my device, but have another complain and that is, when i want to check my lock screen for missed calls/recieved messages i have to take the device to my hand and push the on/off button.
would be great to have double tap to wake function.
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Workaround: just don't tap on that area
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You misunderstand. I'm having this same grievance as it's so easy to knock the scanner when moving the phone that the next movement then swipes to unlock it and the next thing you know you're opening apps and tapping stuff.
I don't give two hoots about fingerprint scanners as they are inherently insecure so I will never use mine. I'd like the ability to disable it completely so it doesn't even act as a button.
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You misunderstand. I'm having this same grievance as it's so easy to knock the scanner when moving the phone that the next movement then swipes to unlock it and the next thing you know you're opening apps and tapping stuff.
I don't give two hoots about fingerprint scanners as they are inherently insecure so I will never use mine. I'd like the ability to disable it completely so it doesn't even act as a button.
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fingerprint is insecure? how does that?
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fingerprint is insecure? how does that?
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You're using a password that you carry on your person at all times, is always visible, and can't be changed. If someone steals your phone they just need to grab your hand and put it on the reader to have full access.
https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/fingerprints-sensors-security/10951/
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You're using a password that you carry on your person at all times, is always visible, and can't be changed. If someone steals your phone they just need to grab your hand and put it on the reader to have full access.
https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/fingerprints-sensors-security/10951/
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Do you really think that someone would steal your phone and your hand just to unlock your device? Ok maybe if you are a bilionaire or presdent of the united states...
The same i can say about unlock pins or gestures ..they need just to put you under drugs and you will tell them the code.
Same as with iris scanner, they just need your phone and your eye .
Too paranoic in my opinion. There is way higher probability that you would die in car accident or airplane accident than someone stelas your phone and your hand . 99% of stolen phones are stolen beacuse of value of the device, not because someone would spend hours to get into your device.
But anyway it is your opinion ...
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But anyway it is your opinion ...
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Indeed.
So, getting back on track, does anyone know a way to disable the fingerprint reader in its entirety? I suspect this may only be possible with a custom-ROM or at the very least root access.
Besides it makes no sense, I think there is no oficial way to completly deactivate the fingerprint reader.