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I've used the new camera app provided by Nadavi (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355587)
There's three videos all were taken with my AT&T Tilt (Dutty's v3 ROM). Please note that videos are in reduced "youtube" quality, they are significantly better quality in the original file. If you want the originals, I'll upload them somewhere.
First is Ballys' fountains at night. Shot on the street around 11pm:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jqJcmJc8y_s
Second is a video I took walking inside the hotel. The lighting is pretty much correct in this video, it wasn't that dark, but it definitely was dimmer than your usual work/home environment (hopefully, lol):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jZHh1Yh4zAI
Third is the video I took inside MGM Grand Hotel in Las Vegas. This is one of their night clubs. The environment is actually not as dim as video would suggest, it's was little brighter.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q3HjDFlACNU
IMPORTANT NOTE:
Theve videos WERE NOT posted to show or prove that AT&T doesn't need proper driver. I whole-heartedly believe that IT ABSOLUTELY MUST have drivers and I will fight alongside the community for their release till the end.
THese videos were made to show that with newest Nadavi's camera app Kaiser can take pretty damn good videos and pictures.
I'd also like to ask a question - if Kaiser can take such high-fps videos when there's a bright object in the center - perhaps we need to look further into the issue of how Kaiser's camera is focusing on dim objects. There was a thread somewhere about that.
Wow, that's not too shabby at all. Was the on-screen view as quick as the recorded video while you were taking it?
fps on the screen was the same as the movie's. Not to say that i dont have extremely low fps sometimes. i can make a movie tomorrow with very low fps.... i'm just tring to get a vetter understanding of this
wow
wish my tytn II can do that
Your TyTn2 can do this. All I have that may be related my camera operation is Dutty's v3 ROM and Nadavi's camera app.
My camera is still slow as hell.. Can you tell us in details what you did to make your tilt camera fast under low light condition. i think we would all be really grateful.
which camera app? got a link?
blu3 said:
My camera is still slow as hell.. Can you tell us in details what you did to make your tilt camera fast under low light condition. i think we would all be really grateful.
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Guys, I didn't do anything. I installed the Nadavi's camera app and changed the settings a little bit. I decreased the brightness to -1.5, reduced sharpness... there's a thread in here somewhere that lists all the good specs for kaiser's camera.
The problem is that I do have the same exact problem you guys are seeing. For example, my office at work is poorly lit - it I point camera at the lamps - i got excellent fps. But when I point down, to say, my table, it reduced to about 2-5 fps. Point at my laptop - again high fps. I will post the video later.
What I'm trying to say is that there's more to this than the drivers, I feel. Why is Kaiser making excellent vids at night with few bright objects, and making horrible video with poorly lit office? As far as I can tell - there's one major difference. In first case we have no-light environment and few bright lights. In second case - whole environment is lit, but pooly, with no objects sticking out. Why is Kaiser trying to compensate in second case, and jsut makes a video in first case?
I will post the low fps video tomorrow..
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It's in the top post,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355587
DarkDvr said:
Guys, I didn't do anything. I installed the Nadavi's camera app and changed the settings a little bit. I decreased the brightness to -1.5, reduced sharpness... there's a thread in here somewhere that lists all the good specs for kaiser's camera.
The problem is that I do have the same exact problem you guys are seeing. For example, my office at work is poorly lit - it I point camera at the lamps - i got excellent fps. But when I point down, to say, my table, it reduced to about 2-5 fps. Point at my laptop - again high fps. I will post the video later.
What I'm trying to say is that there's more to this than the drivers, I feel. Why is Kaiser making excellent vids at night with few bright objects, and making horrible video with poorly lit office? As far as I can tell - there's one major difference. In first case we have no-light environment and few bright lights. In second case - whole environment is lit, but pooly, with no objects sticking out. Why is Kaiser trying to compensate in second case, and jsut makes a video in first case?
I will post the low fps video tomorrow..
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i tried to look for the thread with all the good specs for the camera but no luck... do you remember which thread it was?
Sorry for coming on like an ass but thats the Belagio.
Thats pretty fast!! I have the app but when I record it drags everything. We should have a benchmark thread on all the big rom releases, and compare them with the app and with out, and on the OEM roms.
Here are the specs. Aside from having 3M resolution, and brightness at -1.5, mine are like his:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361345&highlight=saturation
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Sorry for coming on like an ass but thats the Belagio.
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Hehe yeah I guess u're right. We visited many hotels that night.. but that's not the point!!! Lol
I usualy have 3-5FPS in video mode, but when I press the power button to get the device to the stand by mode, and wake ipt up after a few seconds the framerate increases to about 20FPS and my videos looks as good as the videos shown in the first post. Without this "trick" my videos are just crap
lol
thanks yyyyyy
but it was to be the slide wake, not pressing the power button again.
that wuz awesum i can make vids again!!!
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thanks yyyyyy
but it was to be the slide wake, not pressing the power button again.
that wuz awesum i can make vids again!!!
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Could you please explain this a little more clearly?
Ok here's another video from same configuration. Notice the drastic change in FPS when brightness of the object in center changes. It seems that if u point to something bright then FPS goes up, even if its dark around it.
PS: could u elaborate on how u increase FPS by powering down/up the kaiser?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS8CsPmthg0
YYYYY said:
I usualy have 3-5FPS in video mode, but when I press the power button to get the device to the stand by mode, and wake ipt up after a few seconds the framerate increases to about 20FPS and my videos looks as good as the videos shown in the first post. Without this "trick" my videos are just crap
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Wow this trick actually works. To clarify for those that don't understand: When your in Camera or Video Mode click the power button on your phone and let the phone be off(Standby) for a couple seconds; when you turn it back on by pressing the same button the FPS will increase to about 20FPS.
One problem I found out is that it does not adjust the brightness anymore so everything will sometimes look too dark (at least in my room it did)
EDIT: Now I found a thread that clarify's this better than me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365345
The main problem with the TyTynII camera is NOT to do with any missing drivers.
It IS to do with the fact that HTC opted to have an automatically enabled 'Nightmode' when in low-light conditions. If you enable 'Nightmode' on your normal bog-standard video camera, you will get a low frame rate just the same.
HTC need to give users the option to manually select 'Nightmode' so we can then decide ourselves if we want low-framerate/high-lighting or vise-versa..
maybe in a patch or new ROM???
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The main problem with the TyTynII camera is NOT to do with any missing drivers.
It IS to do with the fact that HTC opted to have an automatically enabled 'Nightmode' when in low-light conditions. If you enable 'Nightmode' on your normal bog-standard video camera, you will get a low frame rate just the same.
HTC need to give users the option to manually select 'Nightmode' so we can then decide ourselves if we want low-framerate/high-lighting or vise-versa..
maybe in a patch or new ROM???
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I completely agree. This is a very valid point. Whilst I agree that HTC misrepresented the graphics ability of this device and should be accountable for this, I am noticing an increasing trend to ascrbie most problems with the TyTN2 to the missing graphics drivers.
The danger of doing this is that investigation into other solutions will just tail off and this will go from being a developers forum to a consumers' one.
After all, if the slow IE scrolling had been written off as driver related, there wouldn't be an excellent cab floating out there that could fix it so easily!
There! Something just happened! Did you take a picture of it? Rate this thread to express how fast the LG Nexus 5X can go from "zero to picture". A higher rating indicates that launching the camera app and taking a photo is extremely fast such that you never miss an important moment, like when your cat attacks the couch again.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Launches pretty fast with double-click of home button.
Fast even with HDR+ in optimal lighting.
Is the autofocus faster than the asus zenfone laser?
It's been extremely slow for me even to open, nevermind capture a picture. I do not have HDR on and this is after the supposed update that would make things quicker.
Camera is quick enough for me - I usually just do point an shoot pictures.
I think camera launch speed is a hit or miss sometimes.
Most of the time it is quick. But at times, it takes like up to an second before the viewfinder comes on from black screen.
totally hit or miss. but i feel most of the time it's about 5-10 seconds from double hit power button to blue shutter button to take a pic. coming from an S6 which really marketed the **** out of their fast launch camera, this is night and day. Nexus needs to pick up some speed.
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totally hit or miss. but i feel most of the time it's about 5-10 seconds from double hit power button to blue shutter button to take a pic. coming from an S6 which really marketed the **** out of their fast launch camera, this is night and day. Nexus needs to pick up some speed.
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It never takes longer than 2 seconds for me. I've compared it to my Nexus 5 and it's consistently 1 second faster to load the camera and ready to take a picture with HDR+ enabled.
You might have some background processes eating up your resources during the time it takes 5-10 seconds to load your camera. We can assume that is caused by one of your 3rd party apps. Most likely one that hasn't been properly updated to support Android 6.0.
Camera is Bugged
camera is slow af to load compared to an s6 or any iOS device
trick i found for 3-4s off to capture time
just got a 5x, but found the shortcuts to camera too slow.
i worked out a trick which consistently gives me short capture times.
seems to work with any camera app; i use Camera X for burst.
prep work:
- allow fingerprint unlock
- launch desired camera app
- turn phone off
- pocket the thing and wait for... the moment.
- unlock with fingerprint and ...
- ... tap volume down to take a photo, or hold for burst
the biggest downside? the AF is slow, so my subject (a toddler) is often too quick / out of focus.
Happy with camera
Apparently 2 seconds from the phone being off to taking a HDR+ picture is slow to some people?
My camera always loads in 2 seconds and can snap HDR+ pictures in succession with zero delay (it processes in the background).
Compared to my N5, the camera is noticeably faster and the image quality is better too.
Not the fastest camera but launches preety fast. It takes some time to focus and take a pictures. For the cost they shoud have improved this.
Oh man, after the April Update, camera launches and focuses so much faster. I am amazed.
From lock to take a picture, sometimes slow or even could not connect to camera. When I just got the phone it seemed fine, now I can't rely. Would 85% storage full affect it somehow?
Sometimes indeed it has some af issues (my toddler is sometimes faster than Nexus apparently) but there are very rare occasions. I take a bunch of photos and I've never experienced any real problem. Camera is responsive, and there is always the opportunity to take another shot
Camera Speed improved with nougat, especially hdr processing
Not fast enough, definitely can't compare with S7 Edge.
There! Something just happened! Did you take a picture of it? Rate this thread to express how fast the Sony Xperia Z5 can go from "zero to picture". A higher rating indicates that launching the camera app and taking a photo is extremely fast such that you never miss an important moment, like when your cat attacks the couch again.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I felt bad when tried at showroom, it took a little bit of time to save picture. But when I bought it and be installed latest 5.1.1, the time to take and save a picture is less than 1 second.
I think camera app start-up is reasonable but the shutter lag is unacceptable. I once photographed a seagull standing on a bridge and it was still standing when I pressed the shutter but the sensor captured it flying away...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j5hcj2jeazzjs77/DSC_0988.JPG?dl=0
Not good. App takes too long to start, can't take quick bursts of photos and the images take too long to save. It's a real shame.
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I agree. Really not good at all, especially since many other phones on the market take photos in the blink of an eye.
Long time Sony fan. App launch and shutter lag pathetic. Sometimes it takes 3 - 5 seconds to actually take the picture!
It's really bad with Flash ON/Auto, much quicker if you switch it off.
Since Marshmallow it's a little bit better, but it's still way slower than the Galaxy S6/S7. Even my old Galaxy Note 3 was faster. I expected better from that phone in the camera department, and I don't blame the sensor... I think the app is the culprit. Compared to Samsung, LG, HTC and Apple, Sony probably has the worst stock camera app
I think the only way you can minimize it is using the shutter button. Using the on-screen button will slow it down cause more lag because it autofocuses once again. The thing is the Z5 always captures the frame directly after "capture" instead of the current frame. I had an old Sony point-and-shoot from over 10 years ago and it was able to pause immediately to save the frame the moment the button was pressed.
It's even worse on third-party apps because taking a picture causes the camera to autofocus first and struggle for a considerable time before taking the picture.
It's probably poor optimization but I highly doubt Sony will fix it, even though it seems to have improved in the X/X Performance. Now they're claiming 0.6 shutter response from standby and "nearly instantaneous" normal shutter response.
apart than camera launch time, that is depending on various parameters, disable the "photo analyzer" app. The picture save time will be increased dramatically as the phone will not search for faces , etc
Timing to take picture is fast,there is no phone on the market that focusing faster than Z5.Only when you taking bigh resolution photos 23/20 mpx phone needs about second or two to save it.
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Depends on conditions. The camera is very slow at auto-focus. In daylight and a stationary target, there's no noticable shutter lag. At night and/or moving target, it can be a few seconds enough that you miss whatever you were trying to video. Video seems to always take a few seconds to start recording. The camera also does not seem to support zoome of any kind. If I attempt to zoom at all, the picture quality seems to become horrible for some reason.
As for time from screen off, it seems to vary. sometimes the camera app is up in less than a second, sometimes I have to wait a second or two.
last day I worked with my friend's LG v10 fast and smooth UI and great Pictures that I never had chance to took with 23 megapixel z5!
SOC 810 IN Z5 and 808 in v10 and 23 megapixel against 16 , something wrong that Sony can't fix this ! yet.
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Depends on conditions. The camera is very slow at auto-focus. In daylight and a stationary target, there's no noticable shutter lag. At night and/or moving target, it can be a few seconds enough that you miss whatever you were trying to video. Video seems to always take a few seconds to start recording. The camera also does not seem to support zoome of any kind. If I attempt to zoom at all, the picture quality seems to become horrible for some reason.
As for time from screen off, it seems to vary. sometimes the camera app is up in less than a second, sometimes I have to wait a second or two.
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Can you show a screen-recording showing there's no shutter lag? Many users here have noticed - take a picture of cars passing by and you can see it always skips a frame (I would estimate 1/20 of a second).
Xperia X boasts 0.6 second capture from startup yet they won't bring such optimizations onto the Z5. perhaps some of it is due to the hardware, but just about EVERY other high-end phone has nearly no shutter lag, even those with 20+MP sensors.
I said " In daylight and a stationary target, there's no noticeable shutter lag." A car passing by isnt stationary so the auto-focus has to do some work. I don't think 1/20 of a second is noticeable to most people. I mean most movies are around 1/24 of a second and you dont notice. I think for a real camera, 1/6th of a second is about average. 1/20th might be for pre-focused.
I dont have another camera so I can't time it. I tried using a timer on my laptop and taking a photo of my screen while clicking my mouse to start the timer at the same time.
If my phone is in the right mood, using the camera button, I can get a photo off in just less than 2 seconds.
The shutter lag seemed to be about 0.3 seconds. Now if I repeatedly tapped the shutter button, it seemed to be as fast as 0.1 seconds.
So in the right conditions, I think it is pretty fast. In the wrong conditions, its horrible.
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I said " In daylight and a stationary target, there's no noticeable shutter lag." A car passing by isnt stationary so the auto-focus has to do some work. I don't think 1/20 of a second is noticeable to most people. I mean most movies are around 1/24 of a second and you dont notice. I think for a real camera, 1/6th of a second is about average. 1/20th might be for pre-focused.
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I already half-pressed the shutter button so that autofocus is locked - it still captures the frame after the screen flashes. Using manual mode at 8MP with sports mode speeds things up a little bit. Some people on this forum have disabled thermal throttling and the lag is significantly reduced, but is still present. The final capture press after autofocus is determined should be virtually instantaneous regardless of conditions, as it is on iPhone, Samsung Galaxy and many other phones. While there is still some input lag (which is something like 5ms) and the autofocus also slow things down, this is what companies call "zero shutter lag" - even if it isn't 100% true it is still reasonable. Sony Xperia always skips a frame after the shutter button is pressed and that is your final image. This may seem like nothing but for action shots this is unacceptable. And it's not because the sensor is higher resolution as HTC M9+ Supreme Camera Edition has a 21MP Sony sensor that is just as fast as the iPhone 6 or Galaxy S7. So currently, the Z5 is a terrible choice for instant action shots.
It's even worse for video - it always takes me 1-2 seconds for the phone to film the first video. A second video is much faster, but videos showing the Xperia X has much faster video capture on the first go.
I remember Kit-Kat times and Sony burst mode.
Some users now what i am talking about...
Guys what is going on. Software should be faster and faster... I personally bought z5 mainly because of the promises that camera is top nodge and now i can see that is not... Period and i am sory to say that, as huge Sony fan.
Bottom line is that you can have all MP in the world, fancy smancy auto focus, addons and so on, when post-processing is bad, user experience is bad allso.
I'm also annoyed that video and camera buttons are not on the same interface, and you need to swipe. Some people prefer it because they accidentally film video instead of taking a photo, but it would be better if they gave an option, since the initial release had both on the same interface.
And I can't understand why there is no burst mode... Some claim the hardware is too slow but my friend said he had it on the Z3, and HTC M9+ Supreme Camera has it as well (I only tried briefly). I was deciding between the HTC and the Z5 and went for the Z5 because I thought the camera would be better and also because it has quick-charge and runs on a Qualcomm SoC (I was well aware of the overheating issues, but I'd rather have an SoC that is reliable with updates - the M9+ is still on Lollipop in many places!)
No matter what settings I use my camera is very slow, slow to launch and slow to take picture. I normally have to hold the phone still for a second after I press the shutter to make sure it has take the picture properly. It is not terrible but certainly not as quick as other flagships on the market.
I am going to to a master reset of the phone today to see if it helps, I shall report back!
I have taken the plunge and did a factory reset on my phone. It's too soon to tell whether it's had any effect on camera launch speed but let everyone know once I've used it for a bit longer.
Hi,
I'm trying new super slow mo features but i cani record only 3 sec videos... 1 sec before slowmo(normal Speed), 1 sec of slowmo (6sec dilatated) and anoter 1 sec after slowmo (normal speed).
Where is the multi super slow motion?
How can i record a video of only 3 seconds?!?
Is my fault or is very unusable?
anyone with this issue?
That is the duration, no more
Same here.
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I try it and its impossible to shoot the action. Very bad implementation... hope upgrade soon
Yes, it seems the ported feature only allows short video. They shouldn't have implemented anything, this is useless
note8 super slow
I also have problem as i got the new update.while every thing is fine with camera only super slow motion has problem. Whenever i tap the record button immediately recording get stopped and it save 1 sec video at gallery that is playable and super slow.i tried cleaning data cash for camera app also factory reset.but problem is same as before.
It's due to Samsung I think. The thing is you can shoot only a short time at 960 fps and that's all.
Samsung limits it voluntary.
I think you guys are misunderstanding this a little, there's a new camera mode called Super Slow Motion, which films very high framerate for a very short time. We still have the normal slow motion mode, which as far as I can tell is still dropping frames, way to go Samsung.
Time to sell up and change brand again...
Hello,
As I own this device for month now, I wanted to share all the software issues I have discovered.
First of all, recording videos. When you move around while recording, the video is choppy. That is pretty much big issue for me as it's one of the features I used to use with previous phone.
Second, selfie camera. When you switch to selfie, default mode is Photo with function "Pretty" set to value 2 - sadly this function mostly makes faces look inhuman (e.g. widening the face) and so having this as default setting when opening the camera app is not really good.
Third - random reboots. I didn't figure out why is it really happening, but it's there. Luckily it has never happened during a call or any activity from my side.
Fourth - when turning off one screen, second screed blinks for very little while. That doesn't really look good either.
Did you also encounter (any of) these issues?
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So far so good
I've been using this phone for 3 weeks now
( Without google apps obviously)
This phone is really good
The only issue I've having with this phone is that the screen flickers in some part of the display
Like I'm using all the apps the display is fine but when I'm in Gallery it flickers and it's annoying
I don't know why it's happening
Second the camera quality isn't that great it has all this beautification going on but
I do like that camera family thing it's pretty cool
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Hello,
As I own this device for month now, I wanted to share all the software issues I have discovered.
First of all, recording videos. When you move around while recording, the video is choppy. That is pretty much big issue for me as it's one of the features I used to use with previous phone.
Second, selfie camera. When you switch to selfie, default mode is Photo with function "Pretty" set to value 2 - sadly this function mostly makes faces look inhuman (e.g. widening the face) and so having this as default setting when opening the camera app is not really good.
Third - random reboots. I didn't figure out why is it really happening, but it's there. Luckily it has never happened during a call or any activity from my side.
Fourth - when turning off one screen, second screed blinks for very little while. That doesn't really look good either.
Did you also encounter (any of) these issues?
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Use 60fps when taking videos
PlayForReal said:
Hello,
As I own this device for month now, I wanted to share all the software issues I have discovered.
First of all, recording videos. When you move around while recording, the video is choppy. That is pretty much big issue for me as it's one of the features I used to use with previous phone.
Second, selfie camera. When you switch to selfie, default mode is Photo with function "Pretty" set to value 2 - sadly this function mostly makes faces look inhuman (e.g. widening the face) and so having this as default setting when opening the camera app is not really good.
Third - random reboots. I didn't figure out why is it really happening, but it's there. Luckily it has never happened during a call or any activity from my side.
Fourth - when turning off one screen, second screed blinks for very little while. That doesn't really look good either.
Did you also encounter (any of) these issues?
Sent from my NX627J using Tapatalk
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Guys I have a European z20. The system camera crashes when I try to change from main camera to wide angle or zoom on the tip and shoot. In pro mode instead it works regularly. Anyone who has the european z20 confirm it to me as a bug? Thank you
The phone is lagging with this ugly stock rom. I will try to install the chinese rom, I dont like the global rom, its too bad.
I am willing risk and try this rom. I'm on NC627J_ENCommon_v1.03 and haven't got update for months . I'm guessing if I can flash, can I do it locally on my phone in software update? And is it possible to link me to this rom. I would appreciate it.