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Hi XDA,
Until last night, my phone was almost a brick ! It was impossible for me to use keyboard, start a game, watch a video, or even answer a call !!! What a pity ! :crying:
I looked into it to find the source of the problem.
I deleted some apps, made some space on internal memory (who knows ?), I converted some updated system apps, to put it back in system partition using Link2SD.
I did it with [email protected]#!$%G google play services and, I lost the app during the process (it happens sometimes, especially with google PS)
I restarted my phone and surprise The brick became a rocket :victory: my phone is no longer lagging as before !!! So, I tried to find why. It was google play services. It is no longer installed on the phone since Link2SD "lost" it. :laugh:
Now, I have another problem : I can no longer open google apps. I only use the store, youtube, maps, and the contact sync service. :good:
So, here is my question : Is it possible to get rid of google play services without getting rid of associated apps like youtube, or store (others are very easy to change)
xdadogs said:
Hi XDA,
Until last night, my phone was almost a brick ! It was impossible for me to use keyboard, start a game, watch a video, or even answer a call !!! What a pity ! :crying:
I looked into it to find the source of the problem.
I deleted some apps, made some space on internal memory (who knows ?), I converted some updated system apps, to put it back in system partition using Link2SD.
I did it with [email protected]#!$%G google play services and, I lost the app during the process (it happens sometimes, especially with google PS)
I restarted my phone and surprise The brick became a rocket :victory: my phone is no longer lagging as before !!! So, I tried to find why. It was google play services. It is no longer installed on the phone since Link2SD "lost" it. :laugh:
Now, I have another problem : I can no longer open google apps. I only use the store, youtube, maps, and the contact sync service. :good:
So, here is my question : Is it possible to get rid of google play services without getting rid of associated apps like youtube, or store (others are very easy to change)
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Google play services is a mandatory part of GApps, it's included in all variants of GApps.
You can use pico GApps if you want the basic stuffs. Or you can use the ROM without any GApps at all of you prefer.
And don't freeze or remove any apps if you don't know what it does.
OK.
I may put too much Smiley's in my first message...
I already know about gapps. My question is not about how much gapps I want on my phone, but how to still use it without gplay service.
This is the only apps that "need" another app to launch !! I don't need a Facebook play service to use Facebook or messenger apps ! Do you !?
So why gplay service is so important to launch apps !? It don't seems to be an all launcher.. It is not an account manager..
So waiting for a real answer, I started to look at aptoide to replace play store, because I know my question has poor chance to be answered.
I think I'm going to dive again in my YouTube & VLC RSS project to continue receiving updates from channels I follow without any YouTube app to run.
OK so if it actually works great on every others phones and I am the only one to have troubles with Google services feel free to tell me.
Don't worry about me freezing apps, I exactly know what I can freeze.
xdadogs said:
OK.
I may put too much Smiley's in my first message...
I already know about gapps. My question is not about how much gapps I want on my phone, but how to still use it without gplay service.
This is the only apps that "need" another app to launch !! I don't need a Facebook play service to use Facebook or messenger apps ! Do you !?
So why gplay service is so important to launch apps !? It don't seems to be an all launcher.. It is not an account manager..
So waiting for a real answer, I started to look at aptoide to replace play store, because I know my question has poor chance to be answered.
I think I'm going to dive again in my YouTube & VLC RSS project to continue receiving updates from channels I follow without any YouTube app to run.
OK so if it actually works great on every others phones and I am the only one to have troubles with Google services feel free to tell me.
Don't worry about me freezing apps, I exactly know what I can freeze.
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So freeze playsevices and see what work and what wont.
Verstuurd van mijn Xperia SP
xdadogs said:
OK.
I may put too much Smiley's in my first message...
I already know about gapps. My question is not about how much gapps I want on my phone, but how to still use it without gplay service.
This is the only apps that "need" another app to launch !! I don't need a Facebook play service to use Facebook or messenger apps ! Do you !?
So why gplay service is so important to launch apps !? It don't seems to be an all launcher.. It is not an account manager..
So waiting for a real answer, I started to look at aptoide to replace play store, because I know my question has poor chance to be answered.
I think I'm going to dive again in my YouTube & VLC RSS project to continue receiving updates from channels I follow without any YouTube app to run.
OK so if it actually works great on every others phones and I am the only one to have troubles with Google services feel free to tell me.
Don't worry about me freezing apps, I exactly know what I can freeze.
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There is an Xposed module but unfortunately I dont remember its name. It could allow you to use Google apps without google play services.
Phoenix854 said:
There is an Xposed module but unfortunately I dont remember its name. It could allow you to use Google apps without google play services.
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THERE IS!?
Phoenix854 said:
There is an Xposed module but unfortunately I dont remember its name. It could allow you to use Google apps without google play services.
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Hi !
Thanks for this useful answer. I was on the dev's thread yesterday. Unfortunately, it does not work with every apps. Still, its a useful module.
I'll put a link once I'm at home...
TechnoSparks said:
THERE IS!?
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YES !!
Take a look at here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-app-run-google-play-services-1-0-t3054115
But it can't run every apps.
I'm surprised about this subject. I am not a developer, but if I were, I would try to create a tweak, an app, a module, I don't know something that could help people not to use Google play services app.
Hey,
I just installed CM12.1. Everything works great (thanks!) and I tried to install some apps via Play Store.
However, some of them are greyed out. At first I thought it could be due to the lack of GPS and apps that need location such as Grindr Ingress couldn't be installed. But I did it through adb install and they run great.
It also happened with Fenix, BitTorrent Pro, or Yi action cam app.
Is there any way to fix it? I read the first ten pages of this forum and couldn't find anything.
tigerclaws said:
Hey,
I just installed CM12.1. Everything works great (thanks!) and I tried to install some apps via Play Store.
However, some of them are greyed out. At first I thought it could be due to the lack of GPS and apps that need location such as Grindr Ingress couldn't be installed. But I did it through adb install and they run great.
It also happened with Fenix, BitTorrent Pro, or Yi action cam app.
Is there any way to fix it? I read the first ten pages of this forum and couldn't find anything.
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Not currently but there are some interesting developments in another thread that may reduce the number if apps "greyed out" in the Play Store. For now you will need to side load.
Yesterday I updated to Oreo as the ZTE Axon M update service showed a new update available. On update Google Play would no longer launch and Play Services was not functioning. The Google Application services were pre-installed on the phone when purchased and shipped from AliExpress.
I figured I would reset the phone and on reset all Google functionality was removed.
I figured I would simply install the GAPPS services again and followed this thread:
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...-store-without-gapps-google-services-0176241/
However once everything installs and I launch the Play Store I get a white blank screen.
I would have expected to be prompted for the Google Account login screen and if I check Accounts from settings I can see that there is a Google Account listed but not configured and if I click it I am told to add the account from the relevant app. There is no other shortcut installed though other than Google Play Store which hangs as described previously.
I have tried various other ways to get this sorted out but the end result is the same, inability to add a google account and no way to launch the play store.
I considered YalpStore but its really not fit for purpose because anything that requires the Google Play Services framework will not run.
My phone is not rooted but it appears it does not need to be for GAPPS install functionality. I can see many threads that say this works without the need for rooting (and in any event there are no guides for rooting an Axon M).
My question is simply how do I the Google Play Store and Google Play Services to work on the ZTE Axon M with the Oreo update ? It is driving me nuts and I would never have proceeded with the update if I had realised it would simply be removed.
Same
I'm. Having the same problem I tryed everything
Me too please we want solution
Did you try the same package used for the Xiaomi devices? I have to play on that (it's the rev 2).
sev7en said:
Did you try the same package used for the Xiaomi devices? I have to play on that (it's the rev 2).
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Yes, same problem
baraa_998 said:
Yes, same problem
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I found that one new, tested the old with no success, checking this one: http://en.miui.com/thread-3998-1-1.html
sev7en said:
I found that one new, tested the old with no success, checking this one: http://en.miui.com/thread-3998-1-1.html
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I tried, same issue crashing
I tried multiple methods too, but to no avail.
I do suspect a possibility. The previous time when i managed to get my gapps working when i first got the Chinese set, i had to disable the "Mi-Assistant" App as that was the one preventing my Google Play Services from Auto-Running even though it was set to allow. This time, I can not even see Google Play Services in the Auto-Run Manager and while i tried to force stop and disable the "Mi-Assistant" App, it does not allow me to disable.
I hope this info can help provide some leads to an expert who would be able to help us get back our GApps running again.
Thanks.
I do agree... meanwhile take a look here: https://code.tutsplus.com/articles/10-alternative-android-app-stores--cms-20999
good morning I found the application with the google play store inside the play store zte. After several attempts I managed to install a heavy game (1.3 GB) as ADERA disabling all the Chinese apps, keeping the display always active, I only downloaded via wi-fi. So I managed to download it without problems (I do not know which of these changes worked). the application has a triangular design with central red, the word Google followed by two Chinese characters
Hi, are you on the Android Oreo Update?
Pierpaolo89 said:
good morning I found the application with the google play store inside the play store zte. After several attempts I managed to install a heavy game (1.3 GB) as ADERA disabling all the Chinese apps, keeping the display always active, I only downloaded via wi-fi. So I managed to download it without problems (I do not know which of these changes worked). the application has a triangular design with central red, the word Google followed by two Chinese characters
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yes oreo 8.1 axon m 6 / 128gb. If there is the possibility I can post images of the app. One thing the app inside contains the play store but the apps that you download do not appear on the home of the device but within the app itself
Sounds like an emulator to me.. Would be great if you could provide the images of the app. Any small information helps.
Btw, to all, i did manage to download a GApps installer which seemed promising, cause at least it went into the login page for Google Account. But then the error of requesting to update "Google Play Services" popped up again and again and everything went down the drain again. Will try further and hopefully will have good news.
I'm new on the forum you have to explain to me how to post the images. thank you
Dears... did you see that in the ZTE Store?
Search for Google Play...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4561303&stc=1&d=1532957263
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4561304&stc=1&d=1532957263
Here we are
Pierpaolo89 said:
good morning I found the application with the google play store inside the play store zte. After several attempts I managed to install a heavy game (1.3 GB) as ADERA disabling all the Chinese apps, keeping the display always active, I only downloaded via wi-fi. So I managed to download it without problems (I do not know which of these changes worked). the application has a triangular design with central red, the word Google followed by two Chinese characters
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There is an application in the ZTE Market that installs a pseudo Google Play but it is sandboxed somehow and you have to launch this app to get access to your installs - feels very insecure to me - I just want a clean Google Play on the device
unfortunately for now it is the only solution I found. Otherwise you must use third-party app stores such as amazon, aptoide, etc.
Pierpaolo89 said:
unfortunately for now it is the only solution I found. Otherwise you must use third-party app stores such as amazon, aptoide, etc.
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I posted a link with a few of alternative stores (the best is to get the apk stand-alone ihmo) but if it is to follow that sandbox ways, as suggest, create a new "junky" account just to have it registered.
Any Update??!!
so, i've tried a lot of methods and seems like the best i can do is logging into google play store, but not youtube and other google apps?
couldn't sign in
there was a problem communicating with google servers.
try again later.
need some guidance here, how do i get everything to work?
i found out that there's a bug for data vs wifi - you need to connect to wifi in order to sign in.
z3r0h said:
i found out that there's a bug for data vs wifi - you need to connect to wifi in order to sign in.
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I can confirm this, apps like "Google", "Voice Search" and "Assistant" time out with errors when using data on T-Mobile, but it works on wifi. I can't navigate to a street using assistant over 4G, but if I go directly into the Maps app and use the microphone icon in Maps it works correctly.
Does anyone know if there's a fix for this?
RogPhoney said:
I can confirm this, apps like "Google", "Voice Search" and "Assistant" time out with errors when using data on T-Mobile, but it works on wifi. I can't navigate to a street using assistant over 4G, but if I go directly into the Maps app and use the microphone icon in Maps it works correctly.
Does anyone know if there's a fix for this?
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is it just for Tmobile or google services don't work on any mobile data?
Go to Apps & Notifications > Google services
Same issue
I am having similar issues. But, at one point google play store was stuck on loading. Also, gmail wasnt sending or receiving emails.
The problem comes and goes. Like, just now, I couldn't load any YouTube videos.
When I connect on WiFi, all the problems go away and switching back to mobile data. Works for a bit.
It is also only Google services. Twitter, WhatsApp, chrome, all fine.
@op, what sim card slot are you using?
Got it to work.
Go to System -> Applications -> Google Services
And turn on "Allow to use Mobile Data"
fantastikk said:
Go to System -> Applications -> Google Services
And turn on "Allow to use Mobile Data"
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For me Ms Outlook can't show notif but if wifi on its show notif incoming email,
Don't see "allow to use mobile data" options in that menu
Romez123 said:
For me Ms Outlook can't show notif but if wifi on its show notif incoming email,
Don't see "allow to use mobile data" options in that menu
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If you go to Settings -> Applications -> See all ### Apps -> [scroll to and tap on Outlook app] -> Data Usage -> [turn on "Background Data", and "Unrestricted Data Usage" options]
Tell me if that works. I did this step for apps: Calendar [google version from Play Store], Carrier Services [from Play Store] Gmail, Google, Google Play, Google Play Services, Google Play Store, Google Services Framework, Hangouts.
I gave them all unrestricted data access and full permissions just to be safe. It's not like there's a risk of running out of battery on this phone, lol!
edit: I am on the China rom version and I see these settings.
Romez123 said:
For me Ms Outlook can't show notif but if wifi on its show notif incoming email,
Don't see "allow to use mobile data" options in that menu
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I flashed into the WW version. So, all my little issues went away.
My instructions was for Google services.
Have your tried to go to battery optimisation and turning off optimisation for Outlook?
Also, there might be something under mobile manager to turn off as well?
Hi! I specifically made an account to reply, or rather, to reconfirm, that issues about this topic still persists in my phone.
Bought the Tencent Edition of the ROG Phone 2 few days back, I first encounter this issue yesterday when I open my Maps app and the map didn't load (grey screen) and at that time I was using my mobile data. Searched the net how to fix it, and did a few tweaks (mainly clearing cache, data and removing google account) and thankfully the map loads. However, another issue arises, I can't use Google app, Play Store and can't login on Google Maps. When I try to log in my account, I get the "There was a problem communicating with Google servers", and I assume most of you guys here had that exact problem.
I tried everything that almost every forums recommends. Starting from rebooting the phone, uninstalling updates from Google Play Store, clear the cache and storage of Google Play services and Google Play Store again, checked if my Apps & notifications/Google Services is on, turned on all notifications; permissions; background data and unrestricted data usage on all corresponding Google apps and services (Carrier Services, Google app, Google Play services, Google Play Store, Maps) and turned off battery optimization for the mentioned apps. Not any of the above worked for me, the only thing that resolves it is when I used Wifi to log in.
I know that this may be a minor issue and I know that I won't feel any of it hindering my daily phone usage. But I'm really bothered by the fact that something in my phone doesn't work normally as it should. I have been using Samsung phones for the longest time and haven't experienced such problems before. Is this really a bug and can't be fixed till who knows when, or is there something that I overlooked? Thanks much and sorry for the lenghty post. Blessings
cn version has this issue
fixed with ww rom
cn version is destinated to oriental market especcially
Thanks much for the help!
I don't have any experience in modding ROM, but I did find a guide here on how to do that. I'll think about whether I'm gonna try flashing my ROM or not, because... flashing ROMs will void the phone's warranty, yes?
Aeonika said:
Thanks much for the help!
I don't have any experience in modding ROM, but I did find a guide here on how to do that. I'll think about whether I'm gonna try flashing my ROM or not, because... flashing ROMs will void the phone's warranty, yes?
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If you bought a phone that was meant for the Chinese market in another country, you never really had a legit warranty right to begin with. (at least not with Asus, maybe with the seller if they have such policies)
Chinese ROMs have all Google services blocked. (Google services are banned in China). So you need to flash to WW ROM, sometimes seller will do it when they sell a Chinese phone to a different market, but apparently not in your case.
yok3 said:
If you bought a phone that was meant for the Chinese market in another country, you never really had a legit warranty right to begin with. (at least not with Asus, maybe with the seller if they have such policies)
Chinese ROMs have all Google services blocked. (Google services are banned in China). So you need to flash to WW ROM, sometimes seller will do it when they sell a Chinese phone to a different market, but apparently not in your case.
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That makes sense lol.
Alright, I'll try flash my ROM later. Any noob-friendly guide you can recommend to me? Other than the guide by AryanAA.
And um, I know I can probably learn this if I searched for it, but does flashing your ROM resets/wipes your whole phone? And is there any major changes I should know (like maybe I won't be able to use some features ever again)? And is it kinda similar to rooting your phone?
Sorry for the noob questions, any help is much appreciated. Tqvm!
Aeonika said:
That makes sense lol.
Alright, I'll try flash my ROM later. Any noob-friendly guide you can recommend to me? Other than the guide by AryanAA.
And um, I know I can probably learn this if I searched for it, but does flashing your ROM resets/wipes your whole phone? And is there any major changes I should know (like maybe I won't be able to use some features ever again)? And is it kinda similar to rooting your phone?
Sorry for the noob questions, any help is much appreciated. Tqvm!
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Hi was your issue fixed? I'm having same issues on Rog Phone 2, YouTube, Gmail, Google drive won't load with 3h/4g, they only load with WiFi. Have you for a fix ? Please reply
Hi guys, coming back to the forums after a long hiatus!
I have this issue also... Gapps don't work great on mobile data but perfect on WiFi... Some are fixed after clearing data but some are persistently bad such as gdrive which is important to me...
My phone is from ebay, its a tencent with a global rom and I'm in the UK...
Looking at my device info, it looks like my phone has a WW rom but a CN fingerprint... I will have the fingerprint changed today, update to 1910 and drop an update...
achu.ckr said:
Hi guys, coming back to the forums after a long hiatus!
I have this issue also... Gapps don't work great on mobile data but perfect on WiFi... Some are fixed after clearing data but some are persistently bad such as gdrive which is important to me...
My phone is from ebay, its a tencent with a global rom and I'm in the UK...
Looking at my device info, it looks like my phone has a WW rom but a CN fingerprint... I will have the fingerprint changed today, update to 1910 and drop an update...
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Once you've changed the fingerprint and fully converted to WW, the issues will all be fixed ????
phones now on WW 1910 rom and fingerprint - everything is perfect so far!
Hi guys. could somebody please explain what does it mean when u say changed to we ROM and fingerprint? And how do u do it? I have bought rog 2 recently but am not able to sign in to Google account on it over 4g or WiFi from another 4g phone(hotspot).
Hello good people, and hello @HP-TOUCHPAD,
Looking to see if anyone has a working offline map. I have tried maps.me from google apps and M, based on maps.me from F-droid. Both installed but both crashed when I try to install them. If I may ask as well, anyone knows of a flashlight app that works. Please if you suggest a map, ensure it can work offline. Otherwsir, I wont br asking here, as there are plrnty out there.
Enjoying my Touchpad a lot. Thanks again to @HP-TOUCHPAD.
nestaISright said:
Hello good people, and hello @HP-TOUCHPAD,
Looking to see if anyone has a working offline map. I have tried maps.me from google apps and M, based on maps.me from F-droid. Both installed but both crashed when I try to install them. If I may ask as well, anyone knows of a flashlight app that works. Please if you suggest a map, ensure it can work offline. Otherwsir, I wont br asking here, as there are plrnty out there.
Enjoying my Touchpad a lot. Thanks again to @HP-TOUCHPAD.
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Hello @NestalSright
All Aps work differently some require google play services, other don't. Google Maps works offline with no problem but the Open Gapps needs to be flash, that maybe the case for maps.me.
I just tried HERE we go:
https://apkpure.com/here-wego-%E2%80%93-city-navigation/com.here.app.maps/download/1499111-APK-d8609aa06668ff1a2d19a14c5f902159?from=variants%2Fversion
Also it will help to install a Fake GPS location App:
https://apkpure.com/fake-gps-location/com.lexa.fakegps
Both listed Apps can be downloaded to PC using a web browser and then install on tablet.
Attached are screenshots using Evervol 7.1.2, but it should work with all the ROMS.
Here are the 7 best offline Maps for Android:
https://thedroidguy.com/best-offline-gps-map-apps-for-android-1079555
Have fun traveling!