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POTENTIAL BUYER - Need some questions answered, thanks!

Hey guys,
So my Droid DNA is really starting to show its life right now, and my contract with Verizon ends this November and I'm looking to switch to an unlocked phone to use with a cheap carrier like MetroPCS(Tmobile towers)
I've been looking mainly at the Oneplus 2 like everyone else, but upon watching Phone authority's YouTube, i stumbled across this what seems to be a very amazing gem. I have a few questions that, I feel if answered with what I really want to hear, it'll definitely be a must buy later this year
1. The screen, its 2K so there's no issues with clarity, I hear the colors are very nice, but then I've heard a few reviewers complain about the brightness. How is it? How is the screen in general compared to a note 5 or iP 6+?
2. Will this even work on Metro? I mean, it uses T Mobiles towers so it has to work.... Right?
3. The heat. Everyone in the Android community knows about the heat of the S810, and though I've heard many people quoting Xiaomi mentioning their 5 heat patents, I've still seen people complain that the phone gets uncomfortably hot. Does anyone have any temperature readings?
4. And finally the battery, this I'm not TOO worried about, I'm sure the oneplus 2 would have a bit better battery life with its 1080p screen and slightly bigger battery, but lack of quick charge upsets me.
Thanks for all who help!

1. The screen is probably one of the best thing about this device. Bright, clear and beautiful. I really like this screen, you won't be deceived.
2. I don't know about this. I'm in France and I've never lost the datas but I don't know about T Mobiles.
3. There are a lot of divergent opinions about this. I personally play a lot of games but I've never felt any abnormal heat. They say it's the 2.1 revision so I don't really know if there's any real improvements but it's fine IMO.
4. The battery is good but not amazing. Honestly it's quite better with MIUI V7 but it's not like a Galaxy Note 4.

1. It's a very bright screen, I haven't had any problems with it outdoors in the California summer Sun. I'd say it's on par with the iPhone 6+, but not as good as the Note 5.
2. Yes, it will work on Metro no problem. You are restricted to HSPA+ though since it doesn't have U.S LTE bands. It's more than enough.
3. The phone does get warm quick when playing games such as Clash of Clans and get slightly warm when playing YT videos in 2K, but it's nothing to be afraid about. It does not get uncomfortably hot.
4. It's a decent battery. I've only been using it on MIUI 7 beta on 5.8.20 which has slight battery drain.
Also, I recommend buying it on http://aliexpress.com It's a website for buying items from Alibaba which is China's version of Amazon, but more for personal use instead of buying in bulk. I got mine for around $510 which came with a glass screen protector and that includes DHL 2-day shipping. The sellers on eBay rip you off, they sell it for $570+!

@kotaro_14 @ectoplasma22
Thank you both for your replies, you both are definitely leading me towards picking the Xiaomi Mi Note Pro, the OnePlus 2 isn't even on my mind anymore, right now it seems to be a battle between the Mi Note Pro and the ZTE Axon Pro.
However, I still mainly have my doubts about the heat issue, I'm assuming you both are rooted by now, and I'd like for you guys to do something if you don't mind. Can you guys download and install Trickster MOD Kernel Settings from google play, and maybe game for a while or benchmark for a while (10, 20 minutes?) and quickly recent apps and switch back to trickster and check out the temperature? I think based on that, if it's a number I'd like, there is absolutely no doubt about it that this'll be my next phone. Thanks!
Also, it's pretty weird that only two people out of this entire Mi Note Pro forum would like to give their opinions on the device lol

Not a gamer so can't really help, except I like it, was a choice between note pro and letv max but that was delayed so went for note pro.

Bad performance and other good/bad things (P10 Plus)

I have been using P10 Plus (6/128 GB) for a day, and I am trying really hard to like it. I haven't found all the good/bad points yet but the list of bad things is already kind of outweighing the list of good things. Were my expectations really just too high?
These are really just my opinions, and you are free to disagree. Even I might change my mind if there are really good reasons to!
I might as well add that paid about $860 (in Norway) for my P10 Plus while Galaxy S8+ costs "slightly more" (about $1,000). I just feel like I got so little in return for the price I paid.
I have to decide by tomorrow anyway whether to keep this device or return it, and I am currently leaning towards returning it.
Thanks for any tips, advices, opinions, etc.
Good things:
Responsive fingerprint reader on the front side, unlocks screen pretty much instantly.
Has a nice shape (like an iPhone 7). No annoying sharp edges except at the bottom holes for connectors, where I support the device with my pinky finger.
Lots of camera settings.
My device luckily has UFS 2.1.
Pretty good WiFi speed (measured more than 200 Mbps during internet speed test).
The DAC's quality is okay (not very good). A little bit of noise when using my sensitive in-ear headphones, but it's very bearable. This is only a "good" point because it's an upgrade from my old phone.
Bad things:
I already found some sluggish menus on day one.
Somewhat bad performance when taking photos and shooting videos, even playing back videos I captured is somewhat choppy.
The device gets pretty hot during "normal" (in my opinion light) use, and really hot while charging and during "heavy" (in my opinion normal) use.
Seems like the battery drains more quickly than I expected as well (larger battery does not make it much or any better than P10) so that I still need to bring an extra battery with me if I intend to use mobile data and GPS.
The swiping on the fingerprint reader is a bit of a hit and miss because it might register a tap which means "back" (or exit).
Photos taken and saved as JPEG look bad. RAW images look quite a bit better but it takes seconds to save each image.
My GFXBench result is pretty bad compared to other devices.
Nitpicking:
The edge of the screen protector is so annoying I want to take it off. Note: If you do it, you might want to apply oleophobic coating.
I wish the fingerprint sensor indentation was a bit less deep, because it makes the swiping motion feel less comfortable. The screen protector is probably most of the reason though.
I was never able to transfer app data (only apps themselves) from my old device using any method suggested by Huawei. The thing that did work was a backup/restore using adb.
USB 2 is pretty slow after getting used to USB 3.
The device sometimes thinks that I am using a knuckle gesture when I am using the tip of my finger.

sometimes very laggy also. And some apps not compatible with the camera.

Turns out that I am stuck with this device due to the shop's no-return policy on phones. I might as well begin training my mind to like the device. Won't feel guilty about rooting and trying custom ROMs now either.
@patriotzhou I think after a couple days, I am noticing the stuttering less for some reason..

nougn said:
Turns out that I am stuck with this device due to the shop's no-return policy on phones. I might as well begin training my mind to like the device. Won't feel guilty about rooting and trying custom ROMs now either.
@patriotzhou I think after a couple days, I am noticing the stuttering less for some reason..
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Camera send not so good to me, maybe I don't know how to use it

nougn said:
I have been using P10 Plus (6/128 GB) for a day, and I am trying really hard to like it. I haven't found all the good/bad points yet but the list of bad things is already kind of outweighing the list of good things. Were my expectations really just too high?
Bad things:
The device gets pretty hot during "normal" (in my opinion light) use, and really hot while charging and during "heavy" (in my opinion normal) use.
Seems like the battery drains more quickly than I expected as well (larger battery does not make it much or any better than P10) so that I still need to bring an extra battery with me if I intend to use mobile data and GPS.
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Pretty much this phone is unusable due these 2 things, battery life is poor as AF, and from my perspective, Huawei messed up EMUI 5.1 really hard.
Probably an update would fix it, but we don't have ETA yet.
I will return back the P10 Plus because I think is not worth it, and I will buy a Mate 9 Pro that is virtually the same device, but battery life is so much better.

@nougn Which firmware are you on? In terms of battery life the phone may not be the best, but from my experience its also not bad either. 6 hours DOT should be possible unless you are a heavy gamer. However what you said about the device getting hot that does sound like it may have faulty hardware, I'd be careful with that. You should grab an app monitoring CPU and battery temperatures. If you come to the conclusion that the device is getting warmer than it should I'd contact Huawei on the matter. What I find most bizarre is that you say the performance is laggy at times, I never experienced even just the slightest lag no matter what I do, it is smooth as silk in every situation. Maybe another indication for faulty hardware.......? On a side note: the price you paid seems really high, a lot of commercial seller on ebay offer it for a lot less than that... but anyhow if you really wanted to get rid of the device you could always sell it on ebay or something, no? So you're never actually "stuck" with a device

Craphead said:
@nougn Which firmware are you on? In terms of battery life the phone may not be the best, but from my experience its also not bad either. 6 hours DOT should be possible unless you are a heavy gamer. However what you said about the device getting hot that does sound like it may have faulty hardware, I'd be careful with that. You should grab an app monitoring CPU and battery temperatures. If you come to the conclusion that the device is getting warmer than it should I'd contact Huawei on the matter. What I find most bizarre is that you say the performance is laggy at times, I never experienced even just the slightest lag no matter what I do, it is smooth as silk in every situation. Maybe another indication for faulty hardware.......? On a side note: the price you paid seems really high, a lot of commercial seller on ebay offer it for a lot less than that... but anyhow if you really wanted to get rid of the device you could always sell it on ebay or something, no? So you're never actually "stuck" with a device
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This device always works in high temperatures, and is really easy for it to get hot. Use the camera more than 3 minutes and it will start to feel uncomfortable on hand.
I had the same experience, poor battery life and device most of the time hot. I checked the temperatures and is around 30°C on stand by, and after some minutes of WhatsApp and news, it was reaching 40°C, which is not normal at all, when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
I'm used to stick with cold devices and is one of the first things I noticed when I used this device, and is a pretty common problem among many users. Most of the people would say that is only "warm", but I had the Mate 9 as well, with the same specs, and trust me, it was an ice cube the whole time.

Galaxo60 said:
when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
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One has to keep in mind though that temperatures like that are impossible to reach in summer (unless its a very cold summer), the device can never be cooler than the air surrounding it

Craphead said:
One has to keep in mind though that temperatures like that are impossible to reach in summer (unless its a very cold summer), the device can never be cooler than the air surrounding it
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Well, I'm talking about my room, which has air conditioning, and I just bought the P10 Plus and today I returned it back.
Problem solved, I got my money back, and I'm trying to see which phone to get, but pretty much I don' t like what I see in the market now.

Galaxo60 said:
This device always works in high temperatures, and is really easy for it to get hot. Use the camera more than 3 minutes and it will start to feel uncomfortable on hand.
I had the same experience, poor battery life and device most of the time hot. I checked the temperatures and is around 30°C on stand by, and after some minutes of WhatsApp and news, it was reaching 40°C, which is not normal at all, when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
I'm used to stick with cold devices and is one of the first things I noticed when I used this device, and is a pretty common problem among many users. Most of the people would say that is only "warm", but I had the Mate 9 as well, with the same specs, and trust me, it was an ice cube the whole time.
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The standby drain is crazy and as you said the phone gets really hot when using the camera more than a few minutes.
Also one more problem is when the phone reach certain temperature the wide aperture effect in the gallery will stop working..
It's a pity since I like this phone in many ways and the camera is great.
But if Huawei don't fix it (very) soon i may be "forced" to sell it and get another one..
Almost regret that I sold my old Mate 8..
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Bromsoket said:
The standby drain is crazy and as you said the phone gets really hot when using the camera more than a few minutes.
Also one more problem is when the phone reach certain temperature the wide aperture effect in the gallery will stop working..
It's a pity since I like this phone in many ways and the camera is great.
But if Huawei don't fix it (very) soon i may be "forced" to sell it and get another one..
Almost regret that I sold my old Mate 8..
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Today I returned my P10 Plus, for me there's no excuse to pay so much for a phone that has basic problems.
I will see if I get a Mate 9 Pro or any other phone, but I'm kind of picky when getting a new device.

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Thank you for your advices! The current version is VKY-L29C432B150 (latest).
Sorry for the late response. I have been traveling for the past few days.
I decided to bring this phone with me on vacation to Japan where it is currently very humid and it feels like 33+ degrees C (91+ degrees F) in the sun. Trying to use mobile data, GPS and Google Maps is not exactly pleasant for my hand. The worst part is trying to take some photos because the device's temperature gets uncomfortably high for my hand. Will try to measure the temperatures next time I go out!
I am also really glad that I brought an extra battery, although the output of the extra battery (per port) is just enough (2.4A) to keep the device's battery percentage stable while using mobile data and GPS (goes up when idle).
I also guessed hardware defect, but it now seems like I am not the only one with problems. I really hope that Huawei can fix some things in the software, including the heat issue.

nougn said:
Thank you for your advices! The current version is VKY-L29C432B150 (latest).
Sorry for the late response. I have been traveling for the past few days.
I decided to bring this phone with me on vacation to Japan where it is currently very humid and it feels like 33+ degrees C (91+ degrees F) in the sun. Trying to use mobile data, GPS and Google Maps is not exactly pleasant for my hand. The worst part is trying to take some photos because the device's temperature gets uncomfortably high for my hand. Will try to measure the temperatures next time I go out!
I am also really glad that I brought an extra battery, although the output of the extra battery (per port) is just enough (2.4A) to keep the device's battery percentage stable while using mobile data and GPS (goes up when idle).
I also guessed hardware defect, but it now seems like I am not the only one with problems. I really hope that Huawei can fix some things in the software, including the heat issue.
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You should post your experiences in the battery thread, so it could have more visibility and people can start to acknowledge this, would be really nice from you to do it.
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Different screens
The P10 plus has a IPS LCD screen
The Mate 9 pro has a AMO-LED screen
maybe that adds to the difference in SOT for the two Huawei devices...

ludensen said:
The P10 plus has a IPS LCD screen
The Mate 9 pro has a AMO-LED screen
maybe that adds to the difference in SOT for the two Huawei devices...
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I'm sorry, but there is no way that the screen technology is the decisive factor between 3 and 6 hours SOT.

ludensen said:
adds to the difference
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decisive factor
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That's how you choose to read my post - but not what I wrote, IMHO
My point is to raise awareness about the different screen technologies, because I've seen more than one comparison where the two devices are said to use the same screen (probably because of same size and res.), but that is plain WRONG!

ludensen said:
That's how you choose to read my post - but not what I wrote, IMHO
My point is to raise awareness about the different screen technologies, because I've seen more than one comparison where the two devices are said to use the same screen (probably because of same size and res.), but that is plain WRONG!
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I understand your point, but still having AMOLED display means nothing in 2017. You can see the HTC U11 with LCD and has pretty goddamn battery life. You can have the normal Mate 9 with IPS and also has a really nice battery life. Right now screen technologies are really mature and it doesn't influence much (or at all) what kind is on a phone.

@Galaxo60
Point taken

Came from S8, I used it for a couple of months and now Im using P10 Plus.
Im more than happy now with P10+.

I have had my P10 Plus for about 2 months now and I can tell you I get around 5 hours of SOT with 1-2 of gaming. The battery stays at 100% for about 15 minutes regardless what I do and then begins to drop. Somehow form 70% downwards it starts to really slow its discharge rate. You might worry about this but the honest truth is that I can make it at the end of each day (around midnight) with around 15-20% battery left. For me this is more than enough as I recharge my phone every night.
I would suggest you stop worrying about your phone dying on you and just start using it. Also use Phone Manager once a day and you'll be good to go.
Hope it helps.

is it best buy under 300$(

I need a long lasting mobile with good specs already tried honor play got screen burn issue in bright white color and flickering display don't know that peice was defective or its model fault.
Anyways need suggestion on what to buy for 3yrs use and need good specs and camera good enough to take notes picture, mi A2, redmi note 6 pro, honor 8x, honor play or asus m2 pro?
Which one should i go for? Poco f1 is not an option cux of cheap built and screen bleeding issue and soft bugs.

vishal uchiha said:
I need a long lasting mobile with good specs already tried honor play got screen burn issue in bright white color and flickering display don't know that peice was defective or its model fault.
Anyways need suggestion on what to buy for 3yrs use and need good specs and camera good enough to take notes picture, mi A2, redmi note 6 pro, honor 8x, honor play or asus m2 pro?
Which one should i go for? Poco f1 is not an option cux of cheap built and screen bleeding issue and soft bugs.
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I recommend the most obvious then ...well actually if you want more customizablilty and a strong sturdy phone with exceptional performance for day to day tasks then mi a2 is good...if you want no customized and on disgusting emui but with a siginificantly faster 710 go for it

To be honest...
Read some topic about mi A2 issue before you buy it...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2/help/rom-issue-mi-a2-t3842664

Quantumkk123 said:
I recommend the most obvious then ...well actually if you want more customizablilty and a strong sturdy phone with exceptional performance for day to day tasks then mi a2 is good...if you want no customized and on disgusting emui but with a siginificantly faster 710 go for it
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Well i have heard battery problems in MI A2, how is redmi note 6 pro for daily drind use, is it durable for at least 3yrs? I have tried honor play but i don't think it's display or hardware is durable.

vishal uchiha said:
Well i have heard battery problems in MI A2, how is redmi note 6 pro for daily drind use, is it durable for at least 3yrs? I have tried honor play but i don't think it's display or hardware is durable.
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Well I haven't got any seriously because unless if 6 hr and 2 min of sot is battery issues you have a problem however redmi note 6 pro is not bad either apaart from annoying notch, lack of rom support and also slower chipset

pureexe said:
To be honest...
Read some topic about mi A2 issue before you buy it...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2/help/rom-issue-mi-a2-t3842664
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Is redmi note 6 pro durable like for 3 yrs? And what about honor play

Quantumkk123 said:
Well I haven't got any seriously because unless if 6 hr and 2 min of sot is battery issues you have a problem however redmi note 6 pro is not bad either apaart from annoying notch, lack of rom support and also slower chipset
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Well snap636 should be fast enough for normal day use and medium size games and i am talking about battery issue that when battery get to like 4% it take hrs in charging it and i don't think that everytime 4g net + google or games will work up for 6hrs.
The only thing i want is a durable phone with medicore specs to run smoothly

vishal uchiha said:
Well snap636 should be fast enough for normal day use and medium size games and i am talking about battery issue that when battery get to like 4% it take hrs in charging it and i don't think that everytime 4g net + google or games will work up for 6hrs.
The only thing i want is a durable phone with medicore specs to run smoothly
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Well why you asking us clearly you have your mind set on the redmi note 6 pro

Quantumkk123 said:
Well why you asking us clearly you have your mind set on the redmi note 6 pro
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You ppl are experts this is the first time i am trying xiaomi phone the prob is if this one got problems within a yr the my father will make me spend my 3 yrs without mobile. cuz he wants me to buy sam but i don't like sam aside s series.

Quantumkk123 said:
Well why you asking us clearly you have your mind set on the redmi note 6 pro
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My luck is quite bad with mobiles, zenfone got bricked even after repair some it got bricked again and then purchased honor play then it had screen burn issue so got refund and today honor play price is decreased by 60$ but i don't know to trust honor anymore and all mobiles seems to be concentrating on specs instead of hardware durability.

This phone has NO issues with battery life. The media and the journalists feed us bull**** all the time, they see a number and make an assumption. My phone lasts easily a full day with normal day of use with a lot of calls, a lot of searching on the net and some video watching in the car with some audio book listening. This phone lasts more than my old Samsung s8, than my newer Samsung s9 and on par with my last year mi a1.
Many people already said battery life is good if not greqt., But are afraid to say it is excellent because the tech YouTubers said it's "meh" for some reason, even though many of their phones that they own last less than this one.
This is one of the best phones under 300 and dare I say it comes close to even the bigger budget phones.
The only thing I can't comment on is gaming as I do not play games on my phone. I listed all my activities above you can make your educated guess. I have two phones left right now that I use that is my older Samsung s8 as one of my all time favorite phones, and this one, and I am thinking of getting rid of the s8 as well. The s8 as originally more expensive phone is fluid in terms of UI, better looking to me, better camera hands down, and more powerfull, but to be fair I could not care less about most of the things except I really enjoy the fluid UI Samsung has build in the past years with the S7 s8 and s9, but I am happy with the stock to so whatever.
Go for this phone dude, you won't be sorry in the next 3 years unless you play heavy games (for those I have no clue, you will have to ask some one else).
The only thing I would suggest if you have the budget is go for the 6GB ram version, that will help you last longer with your phone for sure, it's a future proof more than anything else.

tixoo said:
This phone has NO issues with battery life. The media and the journalists feed us bull**** all the time, they see a number and make an assumption. My phone lasts easily a full day with normal day of use with a lot of calls, a lot of searching on the net and some video watching in the car with some audio book listening. This phone lasts more than my old Samsung s8, than my newer Samsung s9 and on par with my last year mi a1.
Many people already said battery life is good if not greqt., But are afraid to say it is excellent because the tech YouTubers said it's "meh" for some reason, even though many of their phones that they own last less than this one.
This is one of the best phones under 300 and dare I say it comes close to even the bigger budget phones.
The only thing I can't comment on is gaming as I do not play games on my phone. I listed all my activities above you can make your educated guess. I have two phones left right now that I use that is my older Samsung s8 as one of my all time favorite phones, and this one, and I am thinking of getting rid of the s8 as well. The s8 as originally more expensive phone is fluid in terms of UI, better looking to me, better camera hands down, and more powerfull, but to be fair I could not care less about most of the things except I really enjoy the fluid UI Samsung has build in the past years with the S7 s8 and s9, but I am happy with the stock to so whatever.
Go for this phone dude, you won't be sorry in the next 3 years unless you play heavy games (for those I have no clue, you will have to ask some one else).
The only thing I would suggest if you have the budget is go for the 6GB ram version, that will help you last longer with your phone for sure, it's a future proof more than anything else.
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Couldn't have said it better my friend

Haha, If you don't like poco for the reasons you've posted forget the a2. Screen is a nightmare (compared to other lcd not oled, before some "akhchually" carebear shows up). Bugs talk for themselves. Build quality ok for the price, but it's disgustingly copying the iphone x, or it's just me.

strapabiro said:
Haha, If you don't like poco for the reasons you've posted forget the a2. Screen is a nightmare (compared to other lcd not oled, before some "akhchually" carebear shows up). Bugs talk for themselves. Build quality ok for the price, but it's disgustingly copying the iphone x, or it's just me.
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I mean the only key feature that many people think of approaching the Poco is the chipset it has for it's price....that's it

strapabiro said:
Haha, If you don't like poco for the reasons you've posted forget the a2. Screen is a nightmare (compared to other lcd not oled, before some "akhchually" carebear shows up). Bugs talk for themselves. Build quality ok for the price, but it's disgustingly copying the iphone x, or it's just me.
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nightmare and disgusting are words that are usually used for phones of the 5-10 usd from china with shipping. I would not call any disadvantages or shortcomings that you think the phone has (obviously comparing to phones with higher price tag or with better individual parts but with other parts lacking) nightmares or disgusting.
but as you said its just you
ps: iphone copied samsung that copied iphone that copied samsung that copied apple that copied samsung that copied nokia that copied ericson that copied siemens that copied sagem that copied motorola.
point is bit invalid copying is the biggest form of flattery

Disadvantages of the ONE PLUS 7 PRO. Convince me. My review. Convinced? :)

I was ready to jump ship from my note 9 and after a lot of thought felt I could regret it. Just my opinion but just wanted to list some of the short comings for people that are getting sucked into the hype of this new product that could help prevent buyers remorse. For others these things may not matter. But seeing that this broke 1000 dollar mark in Canada, im going to get a little more critical.
No 5g
No WiFi 6 <---this was the deal breaker for me
heavy
short battery life especially with 90Hz <-----another deal breaker.
Plastic components on the front pop up camera
19:9 aspect ratio cropping full screen videos more than 18:5:9
no wireless charging
Corners of screen overly rounded in my opinion. I like the curved screen though
Wide angle camera-many reviewers saying it was if it was just an after thought
Added - no ad card slot, no ip67 certification, no head phone jack
Just added
If somebody could confirm but no wiFi calling or volte on freedom mobile in Canada.
Pros
Would still purchase this over any phone that has a notch or camera cut out on display
price
90Hz display but no point if it kills battery
That being said I have a feeling some of these short comings will be addressed with a Pro 7T/5G or next years model.
New->I re-ordered and received the pro 7 12gb a couple of days ago. Shipping was unbelievably fast. I ordered it Friday and got it Monday.
NEW-------My review page 16
The purpose of this thread is not to present a one sided bashing of the 7 pro but to stir up conversation about it's pros and cons. The scale tips either way. After reading some replies, I felt pusuaded to re order it hence above.

insomnia77 said:
I was ready to jump ship from my note 9 and after a lot of thought felt I could regret it. Just wanted to list some cons for people that are getting sucked into the hype of this new product that could help prevent buyers remorse.
No 5g
No WiFi 6 <---this was the deal breaker for me
heavy
short battery life especially with 90Hz <-----another deal breaker.
Plastic components on the front pop up camera
19:9 aspect ratio cropping full screen videos more than 18:5:9
no wireless charging
Corners of screen overly rounded in my opinion. I like the curved screen though
Wide angle camera-many reviewers saying it was if it was just an after thought
Pros
Would still purchase this over any phone that has a notch or camera cut out on display
price
90Hz display but no point if it kills battery
That being said I have a feeling many of these limitations will be addressed with a Pro 7T/5G or next years model.
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I ended up ordering the nebula blue 256 gb but I agree with wht u said bruh. Missing some flagship strength.

>No 5g
The hardware to implement 5G is still too expensive and cumbersome to a cellphone's design. Unless you live in a major US city, you're probably not going to see 5G before it's ready to replace your phone anyways
>No WiFi 6
Again, early technology with very low adoption rates thus far. 802.11ax requires more antennas, so more than likely also running into phone design problems
>heavy
A legit complaint, but I rather have it be heavier using metal and glass, than lighter and use plastic
>short battery life especially with 90Hz <-----another deal breaker.
I've only seen 1 reviewer get as low as 4 hours of SOT. Everyone else seems to be getting 7-8 hours of SOT even with the 90Hz refresh rate
>Plastic components on the front pop up camera
Heavier metal components would just put more wear on the motor. It'll be inside the phone 99% of the time, and it retracts if it detects the phone is in freefall, so I don't see a big issue with its durability
>19:9 aspect ratio cropping full screen videos more than 18:5:9
Legit complaint. I see the aspect ratio as benefiting readers more than movie watchers, so it's a personal preference.
>no wireless charging
Qi charging has invited bad practices to take hold. You get longer battery shelf life if you run down the battery before charging vs. it charging all the time, and everyone knows that people do with Qi charging. Heat is the enemy of any battery
>Corners of screen overly rounded in my opinion. I like the curved screen though
Personal preference.
>Wide angle camera-many reviewers saying it was if it was just an after thought
Not a huge picture-taking guy, so I'll take your word for it

Well what can i say... Coming from samsung

It's extremely big - too big for me - and has a gross, Galaxy S7 style curved screen. Other than that, it's fine. No wireless charging and no IP rating are also bad, but less severe as far as issues go.

My only complaint is lack of SD card and weak battery life with 90hx. Still ordered ?

I don't know if I will buy it or not, but the major flaws for me are:
No AOD
No IP67 certification (not because of water, but because of dust - might be no problem but who knows)
Battery life (really fast at charging on the other hand, so not really important to me)
Camera right now is much worse than the P30 pro for the same price, might get better with gcam etc.
Well and all of these are better on the P30 pro. But that has the biggest of all flaws:
Locked Bootloader, no root, no bootloader unlock codes from Huawei.
A P30 pro with an SD855 and an unlocked bootloader would be perfect for me.

kurbstar said:
>No 5g
The hardware to implement 5G is still too expensive and cumbersome to a cellphone's design. Unless you live in a major US city, you're probably not going to see 5G before it's ready to replace your phone anyways
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They've already made the 7 Pro 5G in cooperation with EE in UK (who expect to have rolled out the technology by the end of this year) and Elisa in Finland (who've already started setup of its 5G network but won't be available to customers until next year)
No word on pricing for the 7 Pro 5G, though.

For me this dumb of price, what a flagship killer.

1st.. 5G isn't even a thing yet and won't be for almost 2 years. The 5G they are pushing is a compression algorithm on top of 4G backbone. Unless you're planning to keep this phone more then 2 years, worrying about 5G is pointless. They are herding you like sheep.
2nd... IP Rating means nothing. If water damaged the phone they still don't fix it. I'd rather what OnePlus is doing and do their own waterproofing and save the money on the IP certification.
3rd... AOD. You know these are AMOLED panels right? They get burn in... No thanks personally. I turned it on on my OP6 ABUT I don't even use it. This is really just personal choice.
4th... Battery. Only 1 review I saw said 4 hours of SOT MKBHD but he had like 5 or 6 social media accounts going at once... Not a true indicator. I've seen more then a couple say they're getting 5-8 hours SOT. I'll wait to judge for myself but think it will be just fine.
And last... Wireless charging. Why does anyone care when it's slow as hell? Warp charging is so so fast wireless is really pointless, unless you have a damaged USB-C port
I'd rather save $300-$500 and have the screen, speed, storage, storage speed (UFS 3.0), the fastest charging then the IP Rating, wireless charging, 5G that you can't use right now

insomnia77 said:
I was ready to jump ship from my note 9 and after a lot of thought felt I could regret it. Just wanted to list some cons for people that are getting sucked into the hype of this new product that could help prevent buyers remorse.
No 5g
No WiFi 6 <---this was the deal breaker for me
heavy
short battery life especially with 90Hz <-----another deal breaker.
Plastic components on the front pop up camera
19:9 aspect ratio cropping full screen videos more than 18:5:9
no wireless charging
Corners of screen overly rounded in my opinion. I like the curved screen though
Wide angle camera-many reviewers saying it was if it was just an after thought
Added - no ad card slot, no ip67 certification
Pros
Would still purchase this over any phone that has a notch or camera cut out on display
price
90Hz display but no point if it kills battery
That being said I have a feeling many of these limitations will be addressed with a Pro 7T/5G or next years model.
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This is a dumb thread. Full stop.

jerrywmilton said:
This is a dumb thread. Full stop.
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I agree.
It's not missing anything on my list.

tech_head said:
I agree.
It's not missing anything on my list.
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Agree 100%. Had everything I need and missing nothing I need.
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Holy hell, my phone just shipped. I placed the order at 10:03 this morning

For me there is not much that I miss. The headphone jack maybe but I use 95 % of the time bluetooth headphones already now. its big yes, 6 inches would be probably enough but I think I can live also with the current display. Qi charging maybe a bit, but just because I would like to try it because I never had a phone which was capable of it. But with the fast charge of oneplus it is a bit useless. I would rather leave my phone 20 plug to the fast charger than 1 hour on a pad

jerrywmilton said:
This is a dumb thread. Full stop.
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Actually its not. This could answer questions people may have about this new device in one nice summary. There has been confusion if it came with 5g and WiFi 6 since the snapdragon 855 is supposed to support it, for example.. This helps them make a more informed decision. That being said if I had to buy a phone today it would still be this one.

Eric214 said:
Agree 100%. Had everything I need and missing nothing I need.
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Holy hell, my phone just shipped. I placed the order at 10:03 this morning
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Hm.
I got an order confirmation at 10:02 a.m. but no shipping yet!
Which version did you get? I got the Nebula 256/8.
I'm surprised there's no waiting room thread yet haha

kurbstar said:
>802.11ax requires more antennas
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No it doesn't. It ALLOWS for more antennas (up to 8 instead of up to 4). Even the Intel AX200 adapter for laptops is still using just 2 which are tuned to the same bands that have been used in Wi-Fi since 802.11a and 802.11b. 802.11ax still supports single antenna even.

AhsanU said:
Hm.
I got an order confirmation at 10:02 a.m. but no shipping yet!
Which version did you get? I got the Nebula 256/8.
I'm surprised there's no waiting room thread yet haha
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I got the 12/256gb :victory:

The biggest turn off for me is the curved screen, otherwise it's the best phone of the year so far. Tired of everyone copying Samsung and Apple design gimmicks. Give me top hardware, comfortable and straightforward design, no gimmicks.

Yeah there are two posts already talking about all the whining about battery drain and wireless charging.
paying less for a good quality phone is a big plus
It's crazy that there were reviews on this and everyone complaining like they were shocked about this.
OP, please correct the misspelling in the title.

Question McLaren 7t Pro to 10 Pro: Worth it?

I got my Mclaren 7t Pro almost 3 years ago. Battery life isn't what it used to be, but otherwise it's been a really good workhorse for me.
Been eyeing the new round of phones and nothing seems to really jump out at me. I looked at the Galaxy S22 Ultra, but that thing is huge. All of the demo Pixel 6 Pro's I tried had various problems and the 10t just... doesn't seem much of an upgrade on paper to my 7t Pro.
with the 10t, I'd be losing 4gb of RAM and getting a better camera and better screen. Processing seems roughly the same, although a new Snapdragon might be quicker than my older.
Any thoughts? is it worth upgrading or wait and push off for the 12gb RAM model?

I came from the oneplus 8 pro (which also had 12gb ram). The oneplus 10 pro isnt an upgrade, its the same phone.
Feels like it anyways.. I'd have stayed with the oneplus 8 pro except my screen was completely destroyed and so was the camera from a far drop.

It depends what you want from a phone I guess.
Coming from the 8 pro, there's a lot of comparable parts, for example the screen, the audio, even the cameras to some degree.
But there are some huge improvements.
The cameras: for example in videos, the stabilisation is phenomenal, and zooming it's more akin to a TV camera, the fluidity and smoothness is definitely something new, it's a joy to use. Tbh as are the cameras, no macro though which sucks but that's life.
Charging: this is something to behold, you can literally see the percentage increase, half an hour and you're at 100%, it's insanely fast.
SOC: performance is a massive bump over the 8 pro so will be even bigger over the 7 series, PlayStation 2 games run at a full 60fps which is staggering really.
Battery: 5000Mah my first couple of charges 11 hours and 10 hours SOT, amazing tbh.
Software: very mixed bag android 12, there are things to like but for me I need a custom ROM which are being worked on as we speak.
Looks:. Great looking, non fingerprint shiny surface, looks brilliant, nice and heavy too. Feels high quality.
Overall comparing to my last phone. The 8 pro, you need to understand that the 8 pro was a stellar phone. It stood out amongst the other 8 series devices. Was the best of the bunch but honestly besides the lack of a macro camera, I can safely say every department has improved.
With that in mind would it be an upgrade over the McLaren 7? Yes I think it would be. Performance, battery, looks and features.
Is it going to reinvent the wheel? No but Moore's law is dead on phones, you aren't getting twice as much any more, but to say it's not a worthy upgrade if you're due for one and have any other OnePlus phone would be untrue, even people with the 9 or 9 pro would be missing features that are only present on the 10 pro.
That's my opinion anyway.

dladz said:
It depends what you want from a phone I guess.
Coming from the 8 pro, there's a lot of comparable parts, for example the screen, the audio, even the cameras to some degree.
But there are some huge improvements.
The cameras: for example in videos, the stabilisation is phenomenal, and zooming it's more akin to a TV camera, the fluidity and smoothness is definitely something new, it's a joy to use. Tbh as are the cameras, no macro though which sucks but that's life.
Charging: this is something to behold, you can literally see the percentage increase, half an hour and you're at 100%, it's insanely fast.
SOC: performance is a massive bump over the 8 pro so will be even bigger over the 7 series, PlayStation 2 games run at a full 60fps which is staggering really.
Battery: 5000Mah my first couple of charges 11 hours and 10 hours SOT, amazing tbh.
Software: very mixed bag android 12, there are things to like but for me I need a custom ROM which are being worked on as we speak.
Looks:. Great looking, non fingerprint shiny surface, looks brilliant, nice and heavy too. Feels high quality.
Overall comparing to my last phone. The 8 pro, you need to understand that the 8 pro was a stellar phone. It stood out amongst the other 8 series devices. Was the best of the bunch but honestly besides the lack of a macro camera, I can safely say every department has improved.
With that in mind would it be an upgrade over the McLaren 7? Yes I think it would be. Performance, battery, looks and features.
Is it going to reinvent the wheel? No but Moore's law is dead on phones, you aren't getting twice as much any more, but to say it's not a worthy upgrade if you're due for one and have any other OnePlus phone would be untrue, even people with the 9 or 9 pro would be missing features that are only present on the 10 pro.
That's my opinion anyway.
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I wish I could agree, but I'm just speaking from an average consumer. You are definitely a Power user
This phone seems just as smooth. The camera is currently worse (Just because I was running a gcam port. But that will definitely be fixed once I have time to find a good gcam port!
I guess I should rephrase what I had said. If you aren't looking to game and you're just an average user, you'll notice no difference. They lowered the ram for US model(for whatever reason, I was kind kind of upset about that too)
One DOWNFALL is definitely the lack of MEMC. That 120hz upscaling was HUGE for me. Especially when it was the only reason I would have considered staying on OOS.

Morrob95 said:
I wish I could agree, but I'm just speaking from an average consumer. You are definitely a Power user
This phone seems just as smooth. The camera is currently worse (Just because I was running a gcam port. But that will definitely be fixed once I have time to find a good gcam port!
I guess I should rephrase what I had said. If you aren't looking to game and you're just an average user, you'll notice no difference. They lowered the ram for US model(for whatever reason, I was kind kind of upset about that too)
One DOWNFALL is definitely the lack of MEMC. That 120hz upscaling was HUGE for me. Especially when it was the only reason I would have considered staying on OOS.
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Give that a whirl
Definitely clearer stills.. no slow Mo but for stills it's got better software, I think OOS android 12 is actually still in beta, sounds like a joke but I think it is.
Hopefully it'll improve, until then it's pro mode for me.
77.91 MB file on MEGA
mega.nz
A chap on telegram shared it with us.
Evo X for OnePlus 10 pro group.
Telegram: Contact @EvolutionXOnePlus10
t.me

I came from the 8 Pro and 9 Pro, and this 10 Pro feels & performs as good or better so far...

Try This Review

OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren Review
The OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren is a wickedly powerful Android phone which falls just short of the Galaxy S20 series on performance, for considerably less coin.
www.pcmag.com

why?

dladz said:
Give that a whirl
Definitely clearer stills.. no slow Mo but for stills it's got better software, I think OOS android 12 is actually still in beta, sounds like a joke but I think it is.
Hopefully it'll improve, until then it's pro mode for me.
77.91 MB file on MEGA
mega.nz
A chap on telegram shared it with us.
Evo X for OnePlus 10 pro group.
Telegram: Contact @EvolutionXOnePlus10
t.me
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Bro, THANK YOU.
Took a couple little bs pictures and its SO much better. Even without using one of those config files that will inevitably come out. You are just a wealth of knowledge!
I don't have telegram, but I'll make one when I get home just because of that group. Is the rom posted yet or is it in development?

Morrob95 said:
Bro, THANK YOU.
Took a couple little bs pictures and its SO much better. Even without using one of those config files that will inevitably come out. You are just a wealth of knowledge!
I don't have telegram, but I'll make one when I get home just because of that group. Is the rom posted yet or is it in development?
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Hahah no worries man, click the like button
I'm sure there will be more versions soon, bit of a slow burner compared to the 8 series, but it'll come good I reckon.
No ROM as yet. OnePlus hasn't released correct driver's or something so they're working in the device tree.
I don't pretend to understand it all but it's in the post I reckon... For me Evo X was the best ROM on the 8 and probably for all the devices I've had so if it's anything like that I'm sure we'll be happy

thanks for the conversation everyone. I decided to take the plunge, ordered it through Best buy for the $100 giftcard.
I was tempted to pick up a "global" 12gb version on amazon for a little more cash. but, decided to stick with what's "actually" available to me in the US.
Any recommended cases or accessories?

gravitywell said:
thanks for the conversation everyone. I decided to take the plunge, ordered it through Best buy for the $100 giftcard.
I was tempted to pick up a "global" 12gb version on amazon for a little more cash. but, decided to stick with what's "actually" available to me in the US.
Any recommended cases or accessories?
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You're a little late to get the buds for free, the promotion ended on the 12th April... But having used them now for a little while I can wholeheartedly recommend them, I honestly can't fault them, the noise cancellation is actually quite spooky, I'm not an audiophile so I may be just witnessing this for the first time myself but it's quite amazing IMHO.
The 8GB version I have myself, your battery will thank you for this and if you do end up rooting and get a custom ROM on there you can use a pixel type ROM which will enable unlimited back up of photos so the 128GB storage won't be an issue.
Cases I've not tried but you've got one in the box that I'm using myself, nice and slim and the phone comes with a screen protector already fitted which works as expected. Plus you've got victus gorilla glass on there.
I'd I wanted strength for drops then a ringke would do the job and still look cool or a UAG if they release one. For aesthetics I'd say the sandstone would look good.

dladz said:
if you do end up rooting and get a custom ROM on there you can use a pixel type ROM which will enable unlimited back up of photos so the 128GB storage won't be an issue.
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Can you elaborate on this? or, point me to a thread? I'd love to have this and drop the $10 2tb I'm paying for every month

gravitywell said:
Can you elaborate on this? or, point me to a thread? I'd love to have this and drop the $10 2tb I'm paying for every month
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Evo X mate, or any pixel ROM really, pixels get unlimited back up.

gravitywell said:
Can you elaborate on this? or, point me to a thread? I'd love to have this and drop the $10 2tb I'm paying for every month
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Here's some info:
(Q) is there a way to make photos think your phones a pixel whilst remaining on OOS?
Title says it all really. Some AOSP ROMs make photos think that the phones actually a pixel and so back up is unlimited. I think that should be standard anyway. Google makes a tonne of money as it is. I do have a pixel but wondered what's...
forum.xda-developers.com

dladz said:
You're a little late to get the buds for free, the promotion ended on the 12th April... But having used them now for a little while I can wholeheartedly recommend them, I honestly can't fault them, the noise cancellation is actually quite spooky, I'm not an audiophile so I may be just witnessing this for the first time myself but it's quite amazing IMHO.
The 8GB version I have myself, your battery will thank you for this and if you do end up rooting and get a custom ROM on there you can use a pixel type ROM which will enable unlimited back up of photos so the 128GB storage won't be an issue.
Cases I've not tried but you've got one in the box that I'm using myself, nice and slim and the phone comes with a screen protector already fitted which works as expected. Plus you've got victus gorilla glass on there.
I'd I wanted strength for drops then a ringke would do the job and still look cool or a UAG if they release one. For aesthetics I'd say the sandstone would look good.
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Bro wait, you got a case in the box for your oneplus 10 pro US varient?? I was WHOLY expecting one, but mine didn't come with it! I ordered brand new on amazon and received it release day. I ended up buying one anyway, but still lol

Morrob95 said:
Bro wait, you got a case in the box for your oneplus 10 pro US varient?? I was WHOLY expecting one, but mine didn't come with it! I ordered brand new on amazon and received it release day. I ended up buying one anyway, but still lol
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I'm in the UK mate...
Oh wow you didn't get one??
Here's mine.
Bit crap you didn't get one mate..I hear the charger over there is slower too. Is that to do with that voltage output of your grid? Think yours is 110v and ours is 240v or vice versa, no idea...just trying to put reason to it.
Or is this a Chinese company being mean to the yanks?
Either way. So long as the phone is the same you're golden.
Did you at least claim your free buds??

They are superb mate and for free.
Offer expired 12th April

dladz said:
I'm in the UK mate...
Oh wow you didn't get one??
Here's mine.
Bit crap you didn't get one mate..I hear the charger over there is slower too. Is that to do with that voltage output of your grid? Think yours is 110v and ours is 240v or vice versa, no idea...just trying to put reason to it.
Or is this a Chinese company being mean to the yanks?
Either way. So long as the phone is the same you're golden.
Did you at least claim your free buds??
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No i had no idea that was a thing either! However, I dont think I would have qualified anyway. I purchased on the 12th and took delivery on the release date (14 apr).
That case actually looks better than the one I had to buy. All other oneplus's I've bought had cases, I think they're just mad at us Americans LOL The slower charging is whatever. It would be cool to have it but the tests I've seen only show a couple minute difference for both phones to be fully charged.