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Hi I bought this phone few hours ago. After using it for a while (not heavy gaming, just browsing the options and stuffs), it gets extremely hot in the back. With a monitor app I can see that the temperature is about 45℃ . I'm on WiFi , mobile data and NFC deactivated. What it could be?
mostly its because its made out of aluminum which transfers the heat away from the internals. so it will feel hot but after a week or so it will settle down
I'm gonna wait few days and if the problem remain I will return it back. Now I'm charging it turned off and there's no overheating. Weird, what could it be?
Mine peaks at about 48degC when using navigation, or using hangouts for video call. Other than that, normal use is around 33-40degC and maybe 27-30degC from idle. Overnight its about 23-26degC according to Gsam.
It does get quite warm when you use it, but it also cools down very quickly due to the material.
Nokiacrazi said:
Mine peaks at about 48degC when using navigation, or using hangouts for video call. Other than that, normal use is around 33-40degC and maybe 27-30degC from idle. Overnight its about 23-26degC according to Gsam.
It does get quite warm when you use it, but it also cools down very quickly due to the material.
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Wow 48°C is very high! I think there's something wrong...
There's nothing wrong with that. It's all dependent on the user and his tasks. Devices with aluminum body are known to get hot rather quickly, and as mentioned earlier, it's because aluminum soaks up the heat away from the internals of the device (like the motherboard, processor and such) and therefore prolongs their lives. Plus, if you lay the phone down for like five to ten minutes it'll cool off quickly. I use the HTC Double Dip Flip Cover and I don't have to worry about that - of course it's not a viable solution since not all of us like cases, but it helps, plus I love the kick-up stand feature.
TarekElsakka said:
There's nothing wrong with that. It's all dependent on the user and his tasks. Devices with aluminum body are known to get hot rather quickly, and as mentioned earlier, it's because aluminum soaks up the heat away from the internals of the device (like the motherboard, processor and such) and therefore prolongs their lives. Plus, if you lay the phone down for like five to ten minutes it'll cool off quickly. I use the HTC Double Dip Flip Cover and I don't have to worry about that - of course it's not a viable solution since not all of us like cases, but it helps, plus I love the kick-up stand feature.
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So you think it's normal that it gets very warm after few minutes of normal use?
Unfortunately, yes, that's how it is designed to be. I used a Galaxy S3 for quite a while and believe me, hot plastic isn't fun either, especially because it stays hot for a long time and doesn't cool off quickly, and also the internals of the S3 got hot as well (not just the body) which shortens their lives and also drains the battery fast. It's the same with the S4.
solefero69 said:
So you think it's normal that it gets very warm after few minutes of normal use?
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mine got very warm for the first week or so but i was flashing a new rom everyday and i still flash very often but it doesnt get as hot as it did when i first got it
Thanks for all your answers Now my phones is pretty warm even on the screen, gonna turn it off for a while xD Maybe a software update could fix this?
Perhaps, but there aren't any software updates as far as I am aware; the only official OS is 4.1.2 at the moment. If you want to root and go for a custom ROM, I'd recommend either Android Revolution HD 10.3 (for a fully stock experience that's quicker and more stable than the stock ROM) or Trickdroid (which is basically also stock-like but has many nice tweaks and additions) - I have not experienced any overheating issues ever since I went for ARHD and then Trickdroid, but then again I only started taking note of this about a week after I bought the phone; you need to let it completely settle first and not judge so early.
Good luck
TarekElsakka said:
Perhaps, but there aren't any software updates as far as I am aware; the only official OS is 4.1.2 at the moment. If you want to root and go for a custom ROM, I'd recommend either Android Revolution HD 10.3 (for a fully stock experience that's quicker and more stable than the stock ROM) or Trickdroid (which is basically also stock-like but has many nice tweaks and additions) - I have not experienced any overheating issues ever since I went for ARHD and then Trickdroid, but then again I only started taking note of this about a week after I bought the phone; you need to let it completely settle first and not judge so early.
Good luck
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Yes I'm gonna wait until Friday. Now I've turned off my phone to let him cool down. After I've turned it up, in few seconds it gets go 40°C (104°F). I've just turned it up!
solefero69 said:
Yes I'm gonna wait until Friday. Now I've turned off my phone to let him cool down. After I've turned it up, in few seconds it gets go 40°C (104°F). I've just turned it up!
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I've had my One for a couple of months now and everything you've described has been normal for me. 48 is definitely at the high end of temps I've seen on the phone, but the battery and CPU are both capable of surviving that for short periods of time very easily. If you're really concerned you can install something like CPU-Z or CPU Monitor to track the CPU frequency in real time: if the phone gets too hot (by it's own standards) you'll notice the clock throttled to lower than 1.7gHz. If its not throttling, just enjoy the warm feel
Also, when you boot the phone up as you mention, it will of course warm up quickly because its doing a lot of working turning things on and setting up again. 40 is normal use temp for me.
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Yes I'm gonna wait until Friday. Now I've turned off my phone to let him cool down. After I've turned it up, in few seconds it gets go 40°C (104°F). I've just turned it up!
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Well that seems high rather quickly. I'd wait a couple of days and monitor the temperature levels and with which activity. If things don't get better, send it in for a replacement. I'd call HTC and notify them about this and see what they recommend doing in the time being. My average temperature is 25 degrees and with browsing and such it usually increases to mid 30s.
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BTW, the quicker you drain the battery the quicker it heats up of course (for many reasons). I prefer my screen brightness at 90% and all services running all the time, which I suspect it's why mine runs at 40 while others may run normally in the 20s or 30s. What things/settings do you have going on right now?
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90% brightness and a lot of background services will most certainly increase the temperature and drain the battery quicker. I have almost every service that I do not need hibernated by Greenify and the brightness set to Auto, even Auto seems too bright for me. That most certainly helps with battery draining as well as heating issues.
Just turn Power Saver on. You won't be missing the slower CPU speed cos the GPU speed is not reduced. Most games will still play perfectly well and you won't even notice any increased lag in any app. Go into the Power settings, click on the Power Saver word, turn off what you don't want then turn Power Saver on
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Just turn Power Saver on. You won't be missing the slower CPU speed cos the GPU speed is not reduced. Most games will still play perfectly well and you won't even notice any increased lag in any app. Go into the Power settings, click on the Power Saver word, turn off what you don't want then turn Power Saver on
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Actually Power Saver mode slows my device down and the UI becomes a bit slower and a little less responsive but it's nothing annoying. In fact, whenever I miss my Galaxy I turn on Power Saver mode so I can experience the slower UI, but even then it is still faster and more responsive than TouchWiz. Haha!
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Actually Power Saver mode slows my device down and the UI becomes a bit slower and a little less responsive but it's nothing annoying. In fact, whenever I miss my Galaxy I turn on Power Saver mode so I can experience the slower UI, but even then it is still faster and more responsive than TouchWiz. Haha!
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My UI does not slow down even a little bit With Power Saver on I can still play Asphalt 7 at 60fps.
That's nice I suppose. I just turned it on for the sake of trying and you're right, the Ui is still pretty responsive and snappy. Perhaps I was talking about the One X and not this one. I am losing my memory. Lol
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I've searched around and couldn't find any good threads about this:
My note 4 (N910U) gets pretty hot when I'm playing regular games (Tsum Tsum, Wind Runner) and I'm thinking that this is what is causing it to lag.
I.e. When I start playing everything is super smooth, and then about 2-3 minutes in when the phone is getting hot, the frames start dropping and it lags pretty bad.
This happend with my note 2 as well. Is it normal or should I try to send it in to samsung somehow? (in which case does anyone have any experience with samsung customer service? I bought the note 4 from HK but I live in Japan :/)
arange said:
I've searched around and couldn't find any good threads about this:
My note 4 (N910U) gets pretty hot when I'm playing regular games (Tsum Tsum, Wind Runner) and I'm thinking that this is what is causing it to lag.
I.e. When I start playing everything is super smooth, and then about 2-3 minutes in when the phone is getting hot, the frames start dropping and it lags pretty bad.
This happend with my note 2 as well. Is it normal or should I try to send it in to samsung somehow? (in which case does anyone have any experience with samsung customer service? I bought the note 4 from HK but I live in Japan :/)
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I encountered something like this before even without playing games. Check if you have this issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/upper-screen-getting-hot-t3103904
My Knox is already turned off and theres been no real difference from before.
edit: Looks like setting it to force GPU rendere helps slightly overall (the sum off all things since some parts get much nicer some parts are the same, a few parts are laggier... )
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My Knox is already turned off and theres been no real difference from before.
edit: Looks like setting it to force GPU rendere helps slightly overall (the sum off all things since some parts get much nicer some parts are the same, a few parts are laggier... )
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Actually by enabling that option will affect your battery. Haven't done that on my Note 4 but tried that on my previous phone which is LG G2. Definitely it will be faster on rendering but it adds consumption on the battery. And also if the CPU is still overheating, the speed will still throttle down and still affects the applications that relies on CPU. Did you do any customization? If yes, incompatible kernel can be an issue also.
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Try installing this application. This application helped me track the application that is hogging my phone which is the Knox on my case. Look for a process that has a high cpu usage.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bartat.android.elixir&hl=en
CPU throttling plague is main disadvantage of this phone (and many others too).
Samsung should be aware of this, and they are, but don't give a s**t. This expensive Phone lags as hell on some more demanding games.
For instance, Crossy Road lags after few minutes of playing, Ski Safari too, Subway surf....
No more buying Samsung s**t if this issue continues..
I feel sorry I sold my Note II, never had this problems with it.
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CPU throttling plague is main disadvantage of this phone (and many others too).
Samsung should be aware of this, and they are, but don't give a s**t. This expensive Phone lags as hell on some more demanding games.
For instance, Crossy Road lags after few minutes of playing, Ski Safari too, Subway surf....
No more buying Samsung s**t if this issue continues..
I feel sorry I sold my Note II, never had this problems with it.
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Under clock it slightly. That will stop it reaching the temperature that throttles the CPU/GPU all the way down, but still keep good enough performance
The CPU's don't throttle very aggressively and work the clock speeds down fairly evenly so you won;t be able to manage it better yourself by underclocking.
the GPU on the other hand stock uses some pretty crazy throttle steps which knocks the clock speed way down in one step which is probably what most people notice while gaming. You can try fiddling with the max states to try and work it better, but if it gets hot enough to throttle then it will just settle down to it's base state of performance.
I do wonder what people expect when they states these things are 'issues' or it's 'Samsung ****'. Welcome to the world where phones are designed for burst performance only. The Power consumption of pretty much any phone SoC from the past 4-5 years is high enough that clock speeds will be dropping (way) down once you put any extended load on the device. There are SoC design choices that can help with this (very wide cores running at low clockspeeds/voltages) and process node improvements usually come with an increase of steady state performance but there is simply no getting away from the fact that phones can't maintain performance because they are just too small.
getting more performance when you're limited to maybe 2.5watts long term TDP is a challenge. Only way to actually improve it is to undervolt your device, which can help quite a bit if you can drive the voltages down by a decent amount.
OK, I would ask which flagship Samsung phone not older than 2-3 years throttles the least? I'm ready to swap it with Note 4.
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OK, I would ask which flagship Samsung phone not older than 2-3 years throttles the least? I'm ready to swap it with Note 4.
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The Note 4 probably runs the coolest. I have a N910F, it only heats up with very heavy games like Real Racing, the CPU generally stays cool though.
Maybe activate CPU Power Saving and Force GPU rendering to try balance out the heat and power? Thats what I would do.
Simple use of the phone - browsing, instagram, google news, whatsapp, etc., the phone gets warm. Playing PUBG for 30 minutes, the phone gets a lot warmer, but never hot to the touch. The only way it stays cool is if I'm not using it at all. In comparison, my OnePlus 7 Pro stays cool all the time, except when playing graphic-heavy games.
Any setting I'm missing?
Welcome to the hot club!
That's odd my s21 ultra stays cool barely warm when gaming
If you have the Exynos version of the phone, then that could explain the heat. But if you have a SD888 variant, then your phone will still get a little warm, but not quite as hot as the Exynos.
Using GSAT to check temperature levels, any light activity gets the phone to about 36C to 37C. I tried restarting the phone about 5 times in a row and it went to about 44C.
Sharpshooterrr said:
Using GSAT to check temperature levels, any light activity gets the phone to about 36C to 37C. I tried restarting the phone about 5 times in a row and it went to about 44C.
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Thanks for updating your post title =). That's the clarity we need for this phone on XDA.
Anyway, I'm unsure of this, but I'm pretty sure that when a phone is booting up it generally creates a tiny bit of heat because it's just getting everything initially setup for that boot.
But yeah, just be glad that you have the SD version. If you didn't, it might be even hotter! And I agree that this phone still gets pretty warm - I just haven't done any temperature tests on mine. Either way, do you happen to be using a case on this phone? I'm a caseless phone user and my phone still gets warm when used for an extended period of time... So I have a feeling that some thicker, heat sealing cases might be turning these phones into toasters...
*Edit* - maybe they'd be more like hand warmers? Lol
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If you have the Exynos version of the phone, then that could explain the heat. But if you have a SD888 variant, then your phone will still get a little warm, but not quite as hot as the Exynos.
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My exynos is cool.... And no im not a fanboy, had the note20 ultra exynos heater and sold it because of this **** chipset...
NippleSauce said:
Thanks for updating your post title =). That's the clarity we need for this phone on XDA.
Anyway, I'm unsure of this, but I'm pretty sure that when a phone is booting up it generally creates a tiny bit of heat because it's just getting everything initially setup for that boot.
But yeah, just be glad that you have the SD version. If you didn't, it might be even hotter! And I agree that this phone still gets pretty warm - I just haven't done any temperature tests on mine. Either way, do you happen to be using a case on this phone? I'm a caseless phone user and my phone still gets warm when used for an extended period of time... So I have a feeling that some thicker, heat sealing cases might be turning these phones into toasters...
*Edit* - maybe they'd be more like hand warmers? Lol
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Coming from a OnePlus 7 Pro, the heat generated during light use is so noticeable that I had to install a temp monitor (gsat). No problems with previous phone.
I have the official leather cover on, it may contribute to the heat but it shouldn't be that much, I reckon.
I don't need hand warmers haha.
What's GSAT? Can't find it in the play store
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What's GSAT? Can't find it in the play store
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Sorry, I meant GSam.
Snapdragon here as well. Mines never warm . Only when I set it up.
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Snapdragon here as well. Mines never warm . Only when I set it up.
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Please take a 10 minute 4K30 Video and say how much % battery it drained and if the phone got hot.
I also have the Snapdragon version and I'm not sure if what I'm experiencing is normal or not, but my phone gets warm often especially the aluminum on the top left opposite of the camera. I've been keeping track of the temperature and it seems like my phone is always operating around 33C - 35C on normal everyday use like browsing, instagram and youtube. When I use the camera it goes to almost 40C. These numbers are around 91F-95F and 104F respectively. I recorded a 3 minute video on 4k60 and that's when it hit around 40C. Really trying to figure out if I should do an exchange.
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Please take a 10 minute 4K30 Video and say how much % battery it drained and if the phone got hot.
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Exynos: Lost the same 5% as you reported, and phone got hot around the camera module. Temperature of surrounding environment was around 20-25 degrees celcius. The phone didn't feel especially hot in general otherwise (using a relatively slim case).
Losing 5% in 10 minutes means about 30% per hour. So one could record in 4K for about 3-4 hours straight? Is that really that bad?
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Exynos: Lost the same 5% as you reported, and phone got hot around the camera module. Temperature of surrounding environment was around 20-25 degrees celcius. The phone didn't feel especially hot in general otherwise (using a relatively slim case).
Losing 5% in 10 minutes means about 30% per hour. So one could record in 4K for about 3-4 hours straight? Is that really that bad?
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Yes it's bad in my opinion. My S20+ (with the infamous/bad Exynos 990) lost 5% in 15 minutes 4K30 video recording and got barely warm.
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Yes it's bad in my opinion. My S20+ (with the infamous/bad Exynos 990) lost 5% in 15 minutes 4K30 video recording and got barely warm.
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After how many updates though?
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After how many updates though?
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Many, many, many, many, many, many, many Updates. I hope they can improve it on the S21 too.
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Many, many, many, many, many, many, many Updates. I hope they can improve it on the S21 too.
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Yes, that's what I thought. I'm coming from the S9+, and there were several issues with that too when it first came out, which were all fixed with subsequent updates.
Just curious, how do you find the recording in FHD60? That's been my default recording as I don't actually have any 4K monitors.
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Yes it's bad in my opinion. My S20+ (with the infamous/bad Exynos 990) lost 5% in 15 minutes 4K30 video recording and got barely warm.
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Just thought I'd update here - re-tested with the April update. Lost 4% in 10 minutes on 4K30 video recording this time. Heating not as bad, although that's simply guessing/subjective (I don't have a heatgun).
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Just thought I'd update here - re-tested with the April update. Lost 4% in 10 minutes on 4K30 video recording this time. Heating not as bad, although that's simply guessing/subjective (I don't have a heatgun).
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It's just natural to lose 4% in 10 mins of 4k30fps recording. You are basically using all the system resources when operating the camera - i.e. the CPU, RAM and storage all run at the highest. It's not just this device you test this on any device iOS included and the results will be almost the same.
I know there are already a few threads for the same discussion ,
But I am making this thread for a healthy discussion on what's better between Snapdragon 888 and Exynos 2100 after the latest software updates for both models .
There are youtube reviews that are contradictory to each other
1) Mrwhosetheboss says Snapdragon is way better and Exynos is heating like crazy.
Also in camera sd>exynos
2) The tech chap on the other hand says Exynos to be faster and cooler .
Let's discuss
I am planning to buy the s21 ultra over the OnePlus 9 pro just because I am getting it at the same price as OnePlus 9 pro ,
Also the software on OnePlus is always going to be buggy and an update to fix one issue will create more bugs .
aj7400 said:
I know there are already a few threads for the same discussion ,
But I am making this thread for a healthy discussion on what's better between Snapdragon 888 and Exynos 2100 after the latest software updates for both models .
There are youtube reviews that are contradictory to each other
1) Mrwhosetheboss says Snapdragon is way better and Exynos is heating like crazy.
Also in camera sd>exynos
2) The tech chap on the other hand says Exynos to be faster and cooler .
Let's discuss
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After my experience with the Exynos, I'm far more inclined to believe the Tech Chap. I've had no issues with thermal throttling, and my phone sits most of the time at between 28 and 32 degrees when being used under normal circumstances (browsing, light camera use etc). I've also run the benchmarks he ran and got pretty much the same results. I'm very happy with it.
I strongly suspect that boss geezer just had bad luck and picked up an Exynos model with a bad SOC. The difference between the two is he didn't buy another to rule that out.
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After my experience with the Exynos, I'm far more inclined to believe the Tech Chap. I've had no issues with thermal throttling, and my phone sits most of the time at between 28 and 32 degrees when being used under normal circumstances (browsing, light camera use etc). I've also run the benchmarks he ran and got pretty much the same results. I'm very happy with it.
I strongly suspect that boss geezer just had bad luck and picked up an Exynos model with a bad SOC. The difference between the two is he didn't buy another to rule that out.
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What's the ambient temperature in your area?
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What's the ambient temperature in your area?
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Like both Youtubers in this thread, I'm in England so it's not hot at the moment.
Ambient temp makes a difference, but my experience of mobile phones in the UK over the last 25+ years, not massively so.
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Like both Youtubers in this thread, I'm in England so it's not hot at the moment.
Ambient temp makes a difference, but my experience of mobile phones in the UK over the last 25+ years, not massively so.
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I live in a area where the temperatures are like 40°C for like 8 months and 10°C for 4 months ..
At 40°C ambient temps even apple iphones break their sweat and throttle.
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I live in a area where the temperatures are like 40°C for like 8 months and 10°C for 4 months ..
At 40°C ambient temps even apple iphones break their sweat and throttle.
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You say even Apple iPhones but they're dogs**t when it comes to thermal dissipation, in particular the more recent ones.
All I can say is that this phone is no worse than any others I've had when it comes to thermals, and seems to be better than most of them.
After I contemplated a lot, I went for it and purchased the EXYNOS version as I live in Europe and the Snapdragon seems to be Single SIM, so no point ordering it from Amazon.
Mrwhostheboss either had a faulty unit or at the time of his video, the update he put wasn't enough to fix the software issues.
Mine works fine, no overheating (gets a bit warm when doing heavier tasks, ~22c ambient room temps), no camera problems or glitches, all seems good. The camera quality is pretty fine too, although it did definitely improve further after I installed the last update. When I tested the camera out of the box, it was all weird.
Battery life for me is quite fine as well. At the time of writing this message I got SOT 1h45m and battery is at 78%. Plenty of apps installed, Dual SIMs active. AOD active.
I also have the Dr. Ketan ROM with root, AFWall and etc. So I slightly debloated the useless stuff.
I am satisfied with the EXYNOS, and although I have no way to test them next to each other, I'm sure that If the SNAP is better in some ways, it is NOT in others, like NO DUAL SIM.... And for sure if there is anything left to fix on the EXYNOS, they will fix it with the upcoming updates.
But again, if you buy an EXYNOS, make sure you do it right. Start it, install all your apps, make sure you update it to the latest firmware version and then start testing it. If it has problems, factory reset it and return it for a new one.
Good luck!!!
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After I contemplated a lot, I went for it and purchased the EXYNOS version as I live in Europe and the Snapdragon seems to be Single SIM, so no point ordering it from Amazon.
Mrwhostheboss either had a faulty unit or at the time of his video, the update he put wasn't enough to fix the software issues.
Mine works fine, no overheating (gets a bit warm when doing heavier tasks, ~22c ambient room temps), no camera problems or glitches, all seems good. The camera quality is pretty fine too, although it did definitely improve further after I installed the last update. When I tested the camera out of the box, it was all weird.
Battery life for me is quite fine as well. At the time of writing this message I got SOT 1h45m and battery is at 78%. Plenty of apps installed, Dual SIMs active. AOD active.
I also have the Dr. Ketan ROM with root, AFWall and etc. So I slightly debloated the useless stuff.
I am satisfied with the EXYNOS, and although I have no way to test them next to each other, I'm sure that If the SNAP is better in some ways, it is NOT in others, like NO DUAL SIM.... And for sure if there is anything left to fix on the EXYNOS, they will fix it with the upcoming updates.
But again, if you buy an EXYNOS, make sure you do it right. Start it, install all your apps, make sure you update it to the latest firmware version and then start testing it. If it has problems, factory reset it and return it for a new one.
Good luck!!!
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In india there is nothing as return ..
Once paid the device is yours till it has some major issues and they are just repaired ,
Unfortunately We cannot return it for a refund here in india .
That is why thinking twice before buying .
I have no overheating problems with my Exynos unit. Phone idles at around 25-30degC.
Yo bro,
Listen, avoid YouTube reviews. Bro these ppl are just benefiting from these kindda arguments and stuff.
I had the s21 ultra 512 and i sold it coz i have literally watched every single review out there and was too worried i might have been scammed or made the wrong choice.
After talking to some ppl here i bought it again and this time i made sure i cleared my search history lol and never ever to watch a thing.
It is not SD888 but it is close, it has good battery, cameras are barely any difference between them. If you game a lot you should really just buy a different phone just for gaming.
The screen is phenomenal.
Bro i live in Kuwait, temps here reach 55°....until now i have not experienced any extreme heating issues.
My advice to you, don't listen to anything, the device is amazing...yes it lacks behind the SD888 but for me it's the better pick.. i get warranty for a year and a trade on later or i can even sell it and not lose while the imported is basically non sellable here.
So weigh things out and decide, once you decide do not regret. Do not hesitate it's just a phone, if you have a slight doubt avoid it and wait for a different phone.
Goodluck.
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I know there are already a few threads for the same discussion ,
But I am making this thread for a healthy discussion on what's better between Snapdragon 888 and Exynos 2100 after the latest software updates for both models .
There are youtube reviews that are contradictory to each other
1) Mrwhosetheboss says Snapdragon is way better and Exynos is heating like crazy.
Also in camera sd>exynos
2) The tech chap on the other hand says Exynos to be faster and cooler .
Let's discuss
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Camera has improved on the exynos with updates, personally I still feel low light video and photos are just ok, but anything in decent light is great, and I don't have anything other than a pixel 3 to compare to, so not a fair fight as the camera tech on that is old.
In regards to the video, mr whos the boss was using antutu for temperatures and it's well known that at that time it couldn't read exynos temps properly. When I had antutu, it showed around 40 degrees, but CPU monitor was around 25 degrees
I've got the exynos and had no real issues to date, battery life is sometimes great, sometime ok, but more than enough to do me from morning to night with my usage. Other than that can't complain at all
Should wait for the xiaomi's launch today?
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Camera has improved on the exynos with updates, personally I still feel low light video and photos are just ok, but anything in decent light is great, and I don't have anything other than a pixel 3 to compare to, so not a fair fight as the camera tech on that is old.
In regards to the video, mr whos the boss was using antutu for temperatures and it's well known that at that time it couldn't read exynos temps properly. When I had antutu, it showed around 40 degrees, but CPU monitor was around 25 degrees
I've got the exynos and had no real issues to date, battery life is sometimes great, sometime ok, but more than enough to do me from morning to night with my usage. Other than that can't complain at all
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Berserker900 said:
Yo bro,
Listen, avoid YouTube reviews. Bro these ppl are just benefiting from these kindda arguments and stuff.
I had the s21 ultra 512 and i sold it coz i have literally watched every single review out there and was too worried i might have been scammed or made the wrong choice.
After talking to some ppl here i bought it again and this time i made sure i cleared my search history lol and never ever to watch a thing.
It is not SD888 but it is close, it has good battery, cameras are barely any difference between them. If you game a lot you should really just buy a different phone just for gaming.
The screen is phenomenal.
Bro i live in Kuwait, temps here reach 55°....until now i have not experienced any extreme heating issues.
My advice to you, don't listen to anything, the device is amazing...yes it lacks behind the SD888 but for me it's the better pick.. i get warranty for a year and a trade on later or i can even sell it and not lose while the imported is basically non sellable here.
So weigh things out and decide, once you decide do not regret. Do not hesitate it's just a phone, if you have a slight doubt avoid it and wait for a different phone.
Goodluck.
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Camera has improved on the exynos with updates, personally I still feel low light video and photos are just ok, but anything in decent light is great, and I don't have anything other than a pixel 3 to compare to, so not a fair fight as the camera tech on that is old.
In regards to the video, mr whos the boss was using antutu for temperatures and it's well known that at that time it couldn't read exynos temps properly. When I had antutu, it showed around 40 degrees, but CPU monitor was around 25 degrees
I've got the exynos and had no real issues to date, battery life is sometimes great, sometime ok, but more than enough to do me from morning to night with my usage. Other than that can't complain at all
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That temp thing with Antutu makes sense, I was worried when I first got my phone as it was listing my CPU temperature in the low 50s but then I installed CPU Monitor and it showed it was around 30 degrees. Maybe MrWhosTheBoss should have done a bit more research.
It's funny reading the comments on that video. Thousands of people talking about the S21 Ultra being rubbish on Exynos without having the first clue what they're talking about. It goes to show how a badly made video can really effect how a phone is perceived.
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That temp thing with Antutu makes sense, I was worried when I first got my phone as it was listing my CPU temperature in the low 50s but then I installed CPU Monitor and it showed it was around 30 degrees. Maybe MrWhosTheBoss should have done a bit more research.
It's funny reading the comments on that video. Thousands of people talking about the S21 Ultra being rubbish on Exynos without having the first clue what they're talking about. It goes to show how a badly made video can really effect how a phone is perceived.
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Exactly and there is me researching this from a week before buying it .
Also tried to stress the camera on the demo unit at a samsung store , but it was warm to touch but not at all hot ..
By the way , as OnePlus markets their 9 pro with 5 layer cooling system , how's the cooling on s21 ultra?
JerryRigEverything did a teardown, but it's the SD varient. I'm not sure if the cooling solution on Exynos differs.
aj7400 said:
Exactly and there is me researching this from a week before buying it .
Also tried to stress the camera on the demo unit at a samsung store , but it was warm to touch but not at all hot ..
By the way , as OnePlus markets their 9 pro with 5 layer cooling system , how's the cooling on s21 ultra?
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The Samsung is much more aggressive with its thermal throttling than the mi 11 (A good thing or a bad thing depending on what you want in a phone), don't know about the oneplus or how effective it's cooling system actually is (could just be a gimmick/branding, but I don't know).
I would say from what I've seen, s21u has better battery, genuine adaptive refresh, marginally photos cameras but much more versatile camera array, better software.
Mi11 better charging and sustained gaming
Early oneplus reviews have middling battery life, but an educated guess that they haven't enabled the variable refresh yet on the pro, as it seems to last the same amount of time as the base model.
In all honesty, if you aren't sure, wait a month or so for the 'long term' reviews, then you will get a better idea of the final product
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The Samsung is much more aggressive with its thermal throttling than the mi 11 (A good thing or a bad thing depending on what you want in a phone), don't know about the oneplus or how effective it's cooling system actually is (could just be a gimmick/branding, but I don't know).
I would say from what I've seen, s21u has better battery, genuine adaptive refresh, marginally photos cameras but much more versatile camera array, better software.
Mi11 better charging and sustained gaming
Early oneplus reviews have middling battery life, but an educated guess that they haven't enabled the variable refresh yet on the pro, as it seems to last the same amount of time as the base model.
In all honesty, if you aren't sure, wait a month or so for the 'long term' reviews, then you will get a better idea of the final product
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I am getting the s21 u e2100 today .. let's hope I get a good silicon compared to what some people have got
I seriously have a feeling that both versions of the phone are nearly identical in performance and camera quality. The primary reason why we see so many threads regarding heat issues, app crash issues or battery issues are not necessarily due to the versions of the phone that are being used (Exynos or Snapdragon)... But instead, I think that this is mainly due to the fact that a lot of Samsung's phone sales are to people who aren't very tech friendly....at all...
I mean, think of Apple's iPhone market. What percentage of their customers are tech geniuses who know everything about complete device care and optimization? I'd say, near me in the US, maybe about 3-5% of their customers... And with that said, you have to keep in mind that Samsung is the most Apple equivalent company in sales numbers for Android devices in the US. So probably only about 1-2% of their phone customers actually know what the heck they're doing.
So (internally thought lol) truth be told, I don't think one variant is better than the other. I just think that we need to keep in mind the fact that the Samsung phone market is packed to the gills with customers who don't know much at all regarding the technology that's used or how it works/can be optimized or made better. Luckily for us on this particular thread, we probably don't run into the aforementioned issues as we're likely all people who actually know how to use, care for and optimize a damn smart phone lol.
Side note: this was a long comment, so my apologies.
*Edit* - To respond to @aj7400 without wasting more post space :
The US isn't really a particularly cold area. It's just a much bigger area. So there are certainly some states where the temperature stays cold for a while... But there are tons of other places where it stays over 23°C all year round (and a few states where it stays above 33°C all year). So overall, I still believe that these issues are just coming up due to a severe lack of knowledge =(. But the good thing for you is that you actually appear to know what the deal is, hence why you're here on XDA. Thanks for being here =). But ya see what I mean? You were aware of the slightly warmer temperature of the S21U and you were aware of the fact that you live in a hot area. Therefore, you're not constantly complaining about the phone being borked out of the box, but instead, you're looking for potential solutions. Kudos!
NippleSauce said:
I seriously have a feeling that both versions of the phone are nearly identical in performance and camera quality. The primary reason why we see so many threads regarding heat issues, app crash issues or battery issues are not necessarily due to the versions of the phone that are being used (Exynos or Snapdragon)... But instead, I think that this is mainly due to the fact that a lot of Samsung's phone sales are to people who aren't very tech friendly....at all...
I mean, think of Apple's iPhone market. What percentage of their customers are tech geniuses who know everything about complete device care and optimization? I'd say, near me in the US, maybe about 3-5% of their customers... And with that said, you have to keep in mind that Samsung is the most Apple equivalent company in sales numbers for Android devices in the US. So probably only about 1-2% of their phone customers actually know what the heck they're doing.
So (internally thought lol) truth be told, I don't think one variant is better than the other. I just think that we need to keep in mind the fact that the Samsung phone market is packed to the gills with customers who don't know much at all regarding the technology that's used or how it works/can be optimized or made better.
Side note: this was a long comment, so my apologies.
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That's allright ,
But imo apple is from day 1 producing good chips and their optimization is top notch ,
And samsung in US is just offering Snapdragon .
That's the main reason people are not complaining about both , and they don't care what are the specs in their phone .
Also US is a relatively cold area so not much is going around throttling issues .
I live in india where highest temps reach 45°C , where the real problem of thermal throttling arise .
So I care much about these things .
I know this topic doesn't makes a sense here ,
But since we all have paid more than the price of one plus 9 pro ,
We can atleast discuss the still lacking and poor optimization from samsung ( exynos 2100)
I opened the camera app in sunlight today and the phone was getting a bit more than warm , (42°C) .
Check the video and enjoy
Lol, don't be surprised if OP is faking tests. OOS is buggy anyway.
Exynos version of S21 is also well optimized. Maybe u have an specific issue?
Um no specific issue , just comparing the app opening times , it's faster on oneplus 9pro
I have just one issue , my s21 ultra is sluggish sometimes and remains warms to touch whenever I use it ( basic use like typing this comment)
My ambient temps are 35°c
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Um no specific issue , just comparing the app opening times , it's faster on oneplus 9pro
I have just one issue , my s21 ultra is sluggish sometimes and remains warms to touch whenever I use it ( basic use like typing this comment)
My ambient temps are 35°c
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Have you tried doing an Odin reset?
aj7400 said:
Um no specific issue , just comparing the app opening times , it's faster on oneplus 9pro
I have just one issue , my s21 ultra is sluggish sometimes and remains warms to touch whenever I use it ( basic use like typing this comment)
My ambient temps are 35°c
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My SD S21U also always running warm, even after the 1GB recent update. Hopefully this is something that another future update can fix.
That's due to the heat sync design I think.
It's pulling all the heat from processor
The metal frame all around is at similer temperature , where as on my previous phone only a part of phone used to get hot .
I think that is because of excellent heat dissipation.
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That's due to the heat sync design I think.
It's pulling all the heat from processor
The metal frame all around is at similer temperature , where as on my previous phone only a part of phone used to get hot .
I think that is because of excellent heat dissipation.
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Sharpshooterrr said:
My SD S21U also always running warm, even after the 1GB recent update. Hopefully this is something that another future update can fix.
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amirage said:
Have you tried doing an Odin reset?
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Can you guide me the steps?
aj7400 said:
Can you guide me the steps?
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Quite simple...steps are here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-04-mar-21-galaxy-s21-ultra-sm-g998b.4218529/
But you need to be careful to have a stable USB connection as my computer decided to reset the USB port in the middle of the flash! Thankfully, I could revive the phone by Odin flashing the device from another computer and via a USB 2.0 port. It's dead slow but at least sure.
Odin reset is the best solution to all sorts of heating/ battery issues. It's not the same as factory reset as this only cleans your data partition. Odin, resets all your partitions thus making your phone back to the same state as it was when it rolled out of the factory line...