Hi I bought this phone few hours ago. After using it for a while (not heavy gaming, just browsing the options and stuffs), it gets extremely hot in the back. With a monitor app I can see that the temperature is about 45℃ . I'm on WiFi , mobile data and NFC deactivated. What it could be?
mostly its because its made out of aluminum which transfers the heat away from the internals. so it will feel hot but after a week or so it will settle down
I'm gonna wait few days and if the problem remain I will return it back. Now I'm charging it turned off and there's no overheating. Weird, what could it be?
Mine peaks at about 48degC when using navigation, or using hangouts for video call. Other than that, normal use is around 33-40degC and maybe 27-30degC from idle. Overnight its about 23-26degC according to Gsam.
It does get quite warm when you use it, but it also cools down very quickly due to the material.
Nokiacrazi said:
Mine peaks at about 48degC when using navigation, or using hangouts for video call. Other than that, normal use is around 33-40degC and maybe 27-30degC from idle. Overnight its about 23-26degC according to Gsam.
It does get quite warm when you use it, but it also cools down very quickly due to the material.
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Wow 48°C is very high! I think there's something wrong...
There's nothing wrong with that. It's all dependent on the user and his tasks. Devices with aluminum body are known to get hot rather quickly, and as mentioned earlier, it's because aluminum soaks up the heat away from the internals of the device (like the motherboard, processor and such) and therefore prolongs their lives. Plus, if you lay the phone down for like five to ten minutes it'll cool off quickly. I use the HTC Double Dip Flip Cover and I don't have to worry about that - of course it's not a viable solution since not all of us like cases, but it helps, plus I love the kick-up stand feature.
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There's nothing wrong with that. It's all dependent on the user and his tasks. Devices with aluminum body are known to get hot rather quickly, and as mentioned earlier, it's because aluminum soaks up the heat away from the internals of the device (like the motherboard, processor and such) and therefore prolongs their lives. Plus, if you lay the phone down for like five to ten minutes it'll cool off quickly. I use the HTC Double Dip Flip Cover and I don't have to worry about that - of course it's not a viable solution since not all of us like cases, but it helps, plus I love the kick-up stand feature.
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So you think it's normal that it gets very warm after few minutes of normal use?
Unfortunately, yes, that's how it is designed to be. I used a Galaxy S3 for quite a while and believe me, hot plastic isn't fun either, especially because it stays hot for a long time and doesn't cool off quickly, and also the internals of the S3 got hot as well (not just the body) which shortens their lives and also drains the battery fast. It's the same with the S4.
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So you think it's normal that it gets very warm after few minutes of normal use?
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mine got very warm for the first week or so but i was flashing a new rom everyday and i still flash very often but it doesnt get as hot as it did when i first got it
Thanks for all your answers Now my phones is pretty warm even on the screen, gonna turn it off for a while xD Maybe a software update could fix this?
Perhaps, but there aren't any software updates as far as I am aware; the only official OS is 4.1.2 at the moment. If you want to root and go for a custom ROM, I'd recommend either Android Revolution HD 10.3 (for a fully stock experience that's quicker and more stable than the stock ROM) or Trickdroid (which is basically also stock-like but has many nice tweaks and additions) - I have not experienced any overheating issues ever since I went for ARHD and then Trickdroid, but then again I only started taking note of this about a week after I bought the phone; you need to let it completely settle first and not judge so early.
Good luck
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Perhaps, but there aren't any software updates as far as I am aware; the only official OS is 4.1.2 at the moment. If you want to root and go for a custom ROM, I'd recommend either Android Revolution HD 10.3 (for a fully stock experience that's quicker and more stable than the stock ROM) or Trickdroid (which is basically also stock-like but has many nice tweaks and additions) - I have not experienced any overheating issues ever since I went for ARHD and then Trickdroid, but then again I only started taking note of this about a week after I bought the phone; you need to let it completely settle first and not judge so early.
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Yes I'm gonna wait until Friday. Now I've turned off my phone to let him cool down. After I've turned it up, in few seconds it gets go 40°C (104°F). I've just turned it up!
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Yes I'm gonna wait until Friday. Now I've turned off my phone to let him cool down. After I've turned it up, in few seconds it gets go 40°C (104°F). I've just turned it up!
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I've had my One for a couple of months now and everything you've described has been normal for me. 48 is definitely at the high end of temps I've seen on the phone, but the battery and CPU are both capable of surviving that for short periods of time very easily. If you're really concerned you can install something like CPU-Z or CPU Monitor to track the CPU frequency in real time: if the phone gets too hot (by it's own standards) you'll notice the clock throttled to lower than 1.7gHz. If its not throttling, just enjoy the warm feel
Also, when you boot the phone up as you mention, it will of course warm up quickly because its doing a lot of working turning things on and setting up again. 40 is normal use temp for me.
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Yes I'm gonna wait until Friday. Now I've turned off my phone to let him cool down. After I've turned it up, in few seconds it gets go 40°C (104°F). I've just turned it up!
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Well that seems high rather quickly. I'd wait a couple of days and monitor the temperature levels and with which activity. If things don't get better, send it in for a replacement. I'd call HTC and notify them about this and see what they recommend doing in the time being. My average temperature is 25 degrees and with browsing and such it usually increases to mid 30s.
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BTW, the quicker you drain the battery the quicker it heats up of course (for many reasons). I prefer my screen brightness at 90% and all services running all the time, which I suspect it's why mine runs at 40 while others may run normally in the 20s or 30s. What things/settings do you have going on right now?
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90% brightness and a lot of background services will most certainly increase the temperature and drain the battery quicker. I have almost every service that I do not need hibernated by Greenify and the brightness set to Auto, even Auto seems too bright for me. That most certainly helps with battery draining as well as heating issues.
Just turn Power Saver on. You won't be missing the slower CPU speed cos the GPU speed is not reduced. Most games will still play perfectly well and you won't even notice any increased lag in any app. Go into the Power settings, click on the Power Saver word, turn off what you don't want then turn Power Saver on
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Just turn Power Saver on. You won't be missing the slower CPU speed cos the GPU speed is not reduced. Most games will still play perfectly well and you won't even notice any increased lag in any app. Go into the Power settings, click on the Power Saver word, turn off what you don't want then turn Power Saver on
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Actually Power Saver mode slows my device down and the UI becomes a bit slower and a little less responsive but it's nothing annoying. In fact, whenever I miss my Galaxy I turn on Power Saver mode so I can experience the slower UI, but even then it is still faster and more responsive than TouchWiz. Haha!
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Actually Power Saver mode slows my device down and the UI becomes a bit slower and a little less responsive but it's nothing annoying. In fact, whenever I miss my Galaxy I turn on Power Saver mode so I can experience the slower UI, but even then it is still faster and more responsive than TouchWiz. Haha!
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My UI does not slow down even a little bit With Power Saver on I can still play Asphalt 7 at 60fps.
That's nice I suppose. I just turned it on for the sake of trying and you're right, the Ui is still pretty responsive and snappy. Perhaps I was talking about the One X and not this one. I am losing my memory. Lol
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Hello everyone!!
I recently bought an Xperia Z, but the problem is that the battery depletes after 3hours of onscreen time?, i went to the store and they too found it strange since it should have around 6 or 7 hours of onscreen time.
They exchanged the phone and gave me a new one, and sadly that phone had the exact same problem( REALLY!!?!?!!), and to top that, it's with screenlight at 25% and every battery heavy options turned off.
So i went to the store to get a refund. In the store another guy had exchanged his Xperia Z 4 times till He got a Z with a battery that worked as intended....
I will never buy a sony product again after this letdown..
And i would definitely not exchange my phone 4 times to hit the "Working-Battery lottery!"
It seems there is some sort of failure in the release of many of the Z's released, i found this guy with same problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191530
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I also have bad battery life, but yet I don't see your point of making this topic at all.
6/7h on screen time really yo? On a 1080p screen... maybe next year. There are plenty of people that reached 5h+
If you want 7h on screen time, get an iPhone LOL! That way we would get rid of you and you would be with the other sheeple.
Topic is useless, can't believe you made an account just to say that.
LOL How old are you?
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LOL How old are you?
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LOL How old are you?
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I don't get it, my battery lasts all day, I charge through the night and take it out at 7 roughly. Then I use it through the day playing games like shadowgun and using social networking sites like Facebook. I also use gmail quite often and I also watch YouTube videos aswell. If I have brightness automatic and battery stamina mode it can last me throughout the day. I haven't charged my phone sine 7 and I still have 13% charge left.
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If you want 7h on screen time, get an iPhone LOL! That way we would get rid of you and you would be with the other sheeple.
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Pretty sure that wouldn't even work. One of the girls I work with just got an iphone 5 and the battery drains like crazy on that thing. She starts at 3am, and by ~8 she is below 15% and has to charge pretty soon after. Then she has to charge when she gets home, and again when she goes to sleep.
Meanwhile, I am one of the heaviest power users I know of, I use my phone for work (flashlight, camera, calendar, calculator, barcode scanner), frequently check facebook, ragecomics reader app, general web browsing and play store browsing, small downloads eg mp3, apps, flashable .zip tweaks from here, frequently check simpsons tapped out, play some dead trigger, watch about 30 -60 mins of movies, receive a few calls and texts, maybe 10-20 mins of music playback. Out of habit I normally pull my phone out every 10-15 minutes and unlock it, flick around absent mindedlu, then lock it again after not actually opening anything :\ not sure how I picked up that habit.
To top all that off, I have my screen brightness set to 100% with adjust to lighting conditions ticked, I have location services and sattelites on, auto sync on, 4g data always on, wifi on but location based activated, NFC on, and finally, also have better battery stats installed and allways doing it's thing as I am also experiencing some rougue wakelocks I am slowly dealing with (still stumped on what is causing audio_out2 and deleted_wake_lock)
Despite all this, my phone comes off charge around 330am, and doesn't charge till 8pmish when it finally runs out of juice. That is one hell of a solid effort as I have done pretty much nothing to help out my battery, and doing everything to make it struggle.
I have only undervolted slightly, and am using doomkernel on KA04 rom. I am not using stamina mode either. Infact, when I was using it on stock rom, I couldn't see any difference between using it and not using it. I can't really see how it would do much IF you had NO wakelocks (or very little). Besides knocking out LED all it really does it disable background processes, if you have your phone set up right you shouldn't really have any anyway:good:.
This phone leaves my previous galaxy S2 in it's dust for battery life under the same usage in anycase (I used to charge that thing about 3 times a day most days).
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LOL How old are you?
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+3 or whatever that is up to now.
All phones take time and a number of charges before the battery stabilises, and start running at optimum.
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+3 or whatever that is up to now.
All phones take time and a number of charges before the battery stabilises, and start running at optimum.
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My battery was pretty bad when I just got the phone, now it's better
Can we just put all of these meaningless threads into 1 meaningless thread?
gm007 said:
LOL How old are you?
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AnnaQQ said:
I will never buy a sony product again after this letdown..
And i would definitely not exchange my phone 4 times to hit the "Working-Battery lottery!"
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That's nice , tell me more about bad battery life :laugh: . All battery's need at least 10 charges to unlock their full potential !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40228296&postcount=672
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No no, we're @ 5 now.
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Pretty sure that wouldn't even work. One of the girls I work with just got an iphone 5 and the battery drains like crazy on that thing. She starts at 3am, and by ~8 she is below 15% and has to charge pretty soon after. Then she has to charge when she gets home, and again when she goes to sleep.
Meanwhile, I am one of the heaviest power users I know of, I use my phone for work (flashlight, camera, calendar, calculator, barcode scanner), frequently check facebook, ragecomics reader app, general web browsing and play store browsing, small downloads eg mp3, apps, flashable .zip tweaks from here, frequently check simpsons tapped out, play some dead trigger, watch about 30 -60 mins of movies, receive a few calls and texts, maybe 10-20 mins of music playback. Out of habit I normally pull my phone out every 10-15 minutes and unlock it, flick around absent mindedlu, then lock it again after not actually opening anything :\ not sure how I picked up that habit.
To top all that off, I have my screen brightness set to 100% with adjust to lighting conditions ticked, I have location services and sattelites on, auto sync on, 4g data always on, wifi on but location based activated, NFC on, and finally, also have better battery stats installed and allways doing it's thing as I am also experiencing some rougue wakelocks I am slowly dealing with (still stumped on what is causing audio_out2 and deleted_wake_lock)
Despite all this, my phone comes off charge around 330am, and doesn't charge till 8pmish when it finally runs out of juice. That is one hell of a solid effort as I have done pretty much nothing to help out my battery, and doing everything to make it struggle.
I have only undervolted slightly, and am using doomkernel on KA04 rom. I am not using stamina mode either. Infact, when I was using it on stock rom, I couldn't see any difference between using it and not using it. I can't really see how it would do much IF you had NO wakelocks (or very little). Besides knocking out LED all it really does it disable background processes, if you have your phone set up right you shouldn't really have any anyway:good:.
This phone leaves my previous galaxy S2 in it's dust for battery life under the same usage in anycase (I used to charge that thing about 3 times a day most days).
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actually on my iPhone 5 I get more like 9 hours of screen time, sometimes 10. Not saying that your friends account is false, but that sure is hell doesn't seem consistent with any battery rundown test I've ever seen.I can go 2 days without charging it roughly, I'm sure the incoming hate and vitriol for my use of an iPhone as a daily driver is about to pour in from the less intelligent Android users, but this is one of the reasons my iPhone is still my daily driver. That and a consistently good camera.
Cheers~
P.S. I have owned many many many Android flagships and am an experienced power user.
Since when did iPhones ship with battery stats?
Or is there an app for that?
Batteries need a few charging cycles before doing their job properly. It's like having sex for the first time. The first time you might be disappointing but as you do it more often, you supposedly become better at it. Batteries work the same way.
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Batteries need a few charging cycles before doing their job properly. It's like having sex for the first time. The first time you might be disappointing but as you do it more often, you supposedly become better at it. Batteries work the same way.
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You took the best example outta everything lmao.
But I'm so happy with this phone's battery life.
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Batteries need a few charging cycles before doing their job properly. It's like having sex for the first time. The first time you might be disappointing but as you do it more often, you supposedly become better at it. Batteries work the same way.
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Can't believe you just compared batteries on a phone to sex.
My battery life is acceptable. Getting up to 4hours screen time or a little more from 09 - 22. At this time, I then have about 14% more or less. And this is by alot of whatsapp, messaging, maybe a call or two. This is not using LTE. I find it very battery draining so I stick with 3G. Besided i am on WiFi most of the time.
So as long the phone can do a whole day without charging in most normal days for some people that don't travel alot, I ffind the battery acceptable
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Hi guys,
Im new here and fairly new to Android coming from the iPhone (I know....what was I thinking with apple?)..
I have the first HTC One for Verizon, I love this phone and generally don't have any problems with it. I have been testing out ROMs and have been pretty successful with them but the only problem I have is after steady use, maybe 15-20 minutes the phone gets hot. (not burning my hand hot..) But just out of concern for the phone, is this normal or is it damaging to the phone? I'd like to try to make this last the 2 year contract I just bought.
- Thanks in advance
lista94 said:
Hi guys,
Im new here and fairly new to Android coming from the iPhone (I know....what was I thinking with apple?)..
I have the first HTC One for Verizon, I love this phone and generally don't have any problems with it. I have been testing out ROMs and have been pretty successful with them but the only problem I have is after steady use, maybe 15-20 minutes the phone gets hot. (not burning my hand hot..) But just out of concern for the phone, is this normal or is it damaging to the phone? I'd like to try to make this last the 2 year contract I just bought.
- Thanks in advance
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should be OK, the cover acts as heat sink, that's why you can feel the heat more than other phones. afaik, the max HTC specification temperature is 55C.
when the phone goes beyond specification temperature (eg using navigation in the car in sunlight while charging) the LED will start blinking red, and charging will be disabled to prevent damage.
EDIT: you could install an app to monitor temperature; GSAM can monitor batter & temperature
and if you use a lot of apps that use high cpu, you can think about installing a custom kernel with more "aggressive" thermal options
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should be OK, the cover acts as heat sink, that's why you can feel the heat more than other phones. afaik, the max HTC specification temperature is 55C.
when the phone goes beyond specification temperature (eg using navigation in the car in sunlight while charging) the LED will start blinking red, and charging will be disabled to prevent damage.
EDIT: you could install an app to monitor temperature; GSAM can monitor batter & temperature
and if you use a lot of apps that use high cpu, you can think about installing a custom kernel with more "aggressive" thermal options
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Oh thats good to know. Thank you for the reply. Brand new phone, I probably get a little paranoid but better safe then sorry. I will look into a custom kernel if I start to see that flashing red from overheating. Thanks again..
- Lista94
lista94 said:
Oh thats good to know. Thank you for the reply. Brand new phone, I probably get a little paranoid but better safe then sorry. I will look into a custom kernel if I start to see that flashing red from overheating. Thanks again..
- Lista94
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I've never had any problems. When running CPU intensive apps, my battery goes up to 45C but not more.
The hottest I've noticed it was using navigation in the car (but didn't check temperature as I was driving), but I almost never use that anyway.
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lista94 said:
Hi guys,
Im new here and fairly new to Android coming from the iPhone (I know....what was I thinking with apple?)..
I have the first HTC One for Verizon, I love this phone and generally don't have any problems with it. I have been testing out ROMs and have been pretty successful with them but the only problem I have is after steady use, maybe 15-20 minutes the phone gets hot. (not burning my hand hot..) But just out of concern for the phone, is this normal or is it damaging to the phone? I'd like to try to make this last the 2 year contract I just bought.
- Thanks in advance
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Htc Does fell hotter than any other android phone , yes! cause its metal it conducts heat !! , i personally think its good that it conducts heat as it cools down at a better pace than any other phone..
Htc one feels nice on the hands in the winter.
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Htc one feels nice on the hands in the winter.
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ahahahaha yeah that's why i overclocked it now.. it's getting cold outside And whenever I leave home, I change CPU Speed to 2 Ghz
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ahahahaha yeah that's why i overclocked it now.. it's getting cold outside And whenever I leave home, I change CPU Speed to 2 Ghz
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Hahaha, up here in NYC that doesn't sound like such a bad idea. If I wasn't scared of blowing up my phone I'd attempt overclocking for extra heat.
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I've never had any problems. When running CPU intensive apps, my battery goes up to 45C but not more.
The hottest I've noticed it was using navigation in the car (but didn't check temperature as I was driving), but I almost never use that anyway.
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I've found in the ROM I am running an app called Trickster MOD which displays all the temps and clock speeds. Staying steady around 40-45c depending on what I am doing. More toward 45c when playing games. I guess as someone said before, because of the metal casing you can feel the heat coming from the device. Thank you for your feedback everyone.
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I've found in the ROM I am running an app called Trickster MOD which displays all the temps and clock speeds. Staying steady around 40-45c depending on what I am doing. More toward 45c when playing games. I guess as someone said before, because of the metal casing you can feel the heat coming from the device. Thank you for your feedback everyone.
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LOL on the heating part :silly:
but sounds about right on the temperature, my phone also stays between 40 to 45C when using games or graphic/cpu intensive programs; i've had it since about march or april, and no adverse effects (so far?)
i almost never use navigation, but if you want to test temperature, try it, it REALLY heats up.
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LOL on the heating part :silly:
but sounds about right on the temperature, my phone also stays between 40 to 45C when using games or graphic/cpu intensive programs; i've had it since about march or april, and no adverse effects (so far?)
i almost never use navigation, but if you want to test temperature, try it, it REALLY heats up.
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I use the Google Maps Navigation often cause I do alot of walking around NYC and I often get lost in my own city lol. Ive actually never noticed any feeling of heat higher then any other app. Then again I use it for short term walking, usually 20-30 minutes at most.
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Hahaha, up here in NYC that doesn't sound like such a bad idea. If I wasn't scared of blowing up my phone I'd attempt overclocking for extra heat.
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aahah in switzerland it's around -1°C ... so I don't need it actually.. but when I go to the mountains... with some extra batteries it's a D you know what I mean
Those of you that have your hands on the note 4 already. Does it seam to get pretty warm while using it? The back side to me felt a lot warmer then I would expect from a portable device. I have to be honest I am used to having a hard case on my note 3 so maybe this is normal.
Thanks for your input
Linux Larry
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Those of you that have your hands on the note 4 already. Does it seam to get pretty warm while using it? The back side to me felt a lot warmer then I would expect from a portable device. I have to be honest I am used to having a hard case on my note 3 so maybe this is normal.
Thanks for your input
Linux Larry
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I haven't noticed it myself but it is not unnatural that a device gets a bit warm with extended usage. Downloading, streaming, gaming etc will somewhat stress the device. Especially the more you're doing at one time. Happened to my Nexus 5 all the time.
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Those of you that have your hands on the note 4 already. Does it seam to get pretty warm while using it? The back side to me felt a lot warmer then I would expect from a portable device. I have to be honest I am used to having a hard case on my note 3 so maybe this is normal.
Thanks for your input
Linux Larry
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and, since you are in Florida, its still summer there I assume, so its bound to be warmer than it might be here in the beautiful midwest
plus, getting a new phone warm is gonna happen, since you probably havent put it down for more than 10 minutes so far
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I haven't noticed it myself but it is not unnatural that a device gets a bit warm with extended usage. Downloading, streaming, gaming etc will somewhat stress the device. Especially the more you're doing at one time. Happened to my Nexus 5 all the time.
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Thanks. It did take about 20-25 minutes of solid usage before it started to warm up. I do not typically keep the phone on that long but of course i had to configure everything over again so it had longer then average use on it.
Just got mine today and it got a little hot when I applied the OTA update! I'm going to watch it!
Mine got pretty warm after rooting and working it to apply all of my root apps. But it's not hot enough to worry about.
Let the phone settle in. You want a hot phone. Record 4k video for 2 min.
NOTE 4
It definitely gets warmer than my m8 did. Nothing alarming though.
Mine run very cool under heavy usage and i play lots of graphic intensive Games one of those games being Solforge which use to get the Note 3 very warm...but note i got Power Saving restrict cpu performance on which I think drops cpu to about 1.3Ghz each
Mine is far cooler than my note3 and note2. Very heavy use and its rooted , never warm to the touch
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Mine run very cool under heavy usage and i play lots of graphic intensive Games one of those games being Solforge which use to get the Note 3 very warm...but note i got Power Saving restrict cpu performance on which I think drops cpu to about 1.3Ghz each
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Where did u get that setting from
NOTE 4
I have been using P10 Plus (6/128 GB) for a day, and I am trying really hard to like it. I haven't found all the good/bad points yet but the list of bad things is already kind of outweighing the list of good things. Were my expectations really just too high?
These are really just my opinions, and you are free to disagree. Even I might change my mind if there are really good reasons to!
I might as well add that paid about $860 (in Norway) for my P10 Plus while Galaxy S8+ costs "slightly more" (about $1,000). I just feel like I got so little in return for the price I paid.
I have to decide by tomorrow anyway whether to keep this device or return it, and I am currently leaning towards returning it.
Thanks for any tips, advices, opinions, etc.
Good things:
Responsive fingerprint reader on the front side, unlocks screen pretty much instantly.
Has a nice shape (like an iPhone 7). No annoying sharp edges except at the bottom holes for connectors, where I support the device with my pinky finger.
Lots of camera settings.
My device luckily has UFS 2.1.
Pretty good WiFi speed (measured more than 200 Mbps during internet speed test).
The DAC's quality is okay (not very good). A little bit of noise when using my sensitive in-ear headphones, but it's very bearable. This is only a "good" point because it's an upgrade from my old phone.
Bad things:
I already found some sluggish menus on day one.
Somewhat bad performance when taking photos and shooting videos, even playing back videos I captured is somewhat choppy.
The device gets pretty hot during "normal" (in my opinion light) use, and really hot while charging and during "heavy" (in my opinion normal) use.
Seems like the battery drains more quickly than I expected as well (larger battery does not make it much or any better than P10) so that I still need to bring an extra battery with me if I intend to use mobile data and GPS.
The swiping on the fingerprint reader is a bit of a hit and miss because it might register a tap which means "back" (or exit).
Photos taken and saved as JPEG look bad. RAW images look quite a bit better but it takes seconds to save each image.
My GFXBench result is pretty bad compared to other devices.
Nitpicking:
The edge of the screen protector is so annoying I want to take it off. Note: If you do it, you might want to apply oleophobic coating.
I wish the fingerprint sensor indentation was a bit less deep, because it makes the swiping motion feel less comfortable. The screen protector is probably most of the reason though.
I was never able to transfer app data (only apps themselves) from my old device using any method suggested by Huawei. The thing that did work was a backup/restore using adb.
USB 2 is pretty slow after getting used to USB 3.
The device sometimes thinks that I am using a knuckle gesture when I am using the tip of my finger.
sometimes very laggy also. And some apps not compatible with the camera.
Turns out that I am stuck with this device due to the shop's no-return policy on phones. I might as well begin training my mind to like the device. Won't feel guilty about rooting and trying custom ROMs now either.
@patriotzhou I think after a couple days, I am noticing the stuttering less for some reason..
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Turns out that I am stuck with this device due to the shop's no-return policy on phones. I might as well begin training my mind to like the device. Won't feel guilty about rooting and trying custom ROMs now either.
@patriotzhou I think after a couple days, I am noticing the stuttering less for some reason..
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Camera send not so good to me, maybe I don't know how to use it
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I have been using P10 Plus (6/128 GB) for a day, and I am trying really hard to like it. I haven't found all the good/bad points yet but the list of bad things is already kind of outweighing the list of good things. Were my expectations really just too high?
Bad things:
The device gets pretty hot during "normal" (in my opinion light) use, and really hot while charging and during "heavy" (in my opinion normal) use.
Seems like the battery drains more quickly than I expected as well (larger battery does not make it much or any better than P10) so that I still need to bring an extra battery with me if I intend to use mobile data and GPS.
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Pretty much this phone is unusable due these 2 things, battery life is poor as AF, and from my perspective, Huawei messed up EMUI 5.1 really hard.
Probably an update would fix it, but we don't have ETA yet.
I will return back the P10 Plus because I think is not worth it, and I will buy a Mate 9 Pro that is virtually the same device, but battery life is so much better.
@nougn Which firmware are you on? In terms of battery life the phone may not be the best, but from my experience its also not bad either. 6 hours DOT should be possible unless you are a heavy gamer. However what you said about the device getting hot that does sound like it may have faulty hardware, I'd be careful with that. You should grab an app monitoring CPU and battery temperatures. If you come to the conclusion that the device is getting warmer than it should I'd contact Huawei on the matter. What I find most bizarre is that you say the performance is laggy at times, I never experienced even just the slightest lag no matter what I do, it is smooth as silk in every situation. Maybe another indication for faulty hardware.......? On a side note: the price you paid seems really high, a lot of commercial seller on ebay offer it for a lot less than that... but anyhow if you really wanted to get rid of the device you could always sell it on ebay or something, no? So you're never actually "stuck" with a device
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@nougn Which firmware are you on? In terms of battery life the phone may not be the best, but from my experience its also not bad either. 6 hours DOT should be possible unless you are a heavy gamer. However what you said about the device getting hot that does sound like it may have faulty hardware, I'd be careful with that. You should grab an app monitoring CPU and battery temperatures. If you come to the conclusion that the device is getting warmer than it should I'd contact Huawei on the matter. What I find most bizarre is that you say the performance is laggy at times, I never experienced even just the slightest lag no matter what I do, it is smooth as silk in every situation. Maybe another indication for faulty hardware.......? On a side note: the price you paid seems really high, a lot of commercial seller on ebay offer it for a lot less than that... but anyhow if you really wanted to get rid of the device you could always sell it on ebay or something, no? So you're never actually "stuck" with a device
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This device always works in high temperatures, and is really easy for it to get hot. Use the camera more than 3 minutes and it will start to feel uncomfortable on hand.
I had the same experience, poor battery life and device most of the time hot. I checked the temperatures and is around 30°C on stand by, and after some minutes of WhatsApp and news, it was reaching 40°C, which is not normal at all, when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
I'm used to stick with cold devices and is one of the first things I noticed when I used this device, and is a pretty common problem among many users. Most of the people would say that is only "warm", but I had the Mate 9 as well, with the same specs, and trust me, it was an ice cube the whole time.
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when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
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One has to keep in mind though that temperatures like that are impossible to reach in summer (unless its a very cold summer), the device can never be cooler than the air surrounding it
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One has to keep in mind though that temperatures like that are impossible to reach in summer (unless its a very cold summer), the device can never be cooler than the air surrounding it
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Well, I'm talking about my room, which has air conditioning, and I just bought the P10 Plus and today I returned it back.
Problem solved, I got my money back, and I'm trying to see which phone to get, but pretty much I don' t like what I see in the market now.
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This device always works in high temperatures, and is really easy for it to get hot. Use the camera more than 3 minutes and it will start to feel uncomfortable on hand.
I had the same experience, poor battery life and device most of the time hot. I checked the temperatures and is around 30°C on stand by, and after some minutes of WhatsApp and news, it was reaching 40°C, which is not normal at all, when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
I'm used to stick with cold devices and is one of the first things I noticed when I used this device, and is a pretty common problem among many users. Most of the people would say that is only "warm", but I had the Mate 9 as well, with the same specs, and trust me, it was an ice cube the whole time.
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The standby drain is crazy and as you said the phone gets really hot when using the camera more than a few minutes.
Also one more problem is when the phone reach certain temperature the wide aperture effect in the gallery will stop working..
It's a pity since I like this phone in many ways and the camera is great.
But if Huawei don't fix it (very) soon i may be "forced" to sell it and get another one..
Almost regret that I sold my old Mate 8..
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The standby drain is crazy and as you said the phone gets really hot when using the camera more than a few minutes.
Also one more problem is when the phone reach certain temperature the wide aperture effect in the gallery will stop working..
It's a pity since I like this phone in many ways and the camera is great.
But if Huawei don't fix it (very) soon i may be "forced" to sell it and get another one..
Almost regret that I sold my old Mate 8..
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Today I returned my P10 Plus, for me there's no excuse to pay so much for a phone that has basic problems.
I will see if I get a Mate 9 Pro or any other phone, but I'm kind of picky when getting a new device.
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Thank you for your advices! The current version is VKY-L29C432B150 (latest).
Sorry for the late response. I have been traveling for the past few days.
I decided to bring this phone with me on vacation to Japan where it is currently very humid and it feels like 33+ degrees C (91+ degrees F) in the sun. Trying to use mobile data, GPS and Google Maps is not exactly pleasant for my hand. The worst part is trying to take some photos because the device's temperature gets uncomfortably high for my hand. Will try to measure the temperatures next time I go out!
I am also really glad that I brought an extra battery, although the output of the extra battery (per port) is just enough (2.4A) to keep the device's battery percentage stable while using mobile data and GPS (goes up when idle).
I also guessed hardware defect, but it now seems like I am not the only one with problems. I really hope that Huawei can fix some things in the software, including the heat issue.
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Thank you for your advices! The current version is VKY-L29C432B150 (latest).
Sorry for the late response. I have been traveling for the past few days.
I decided to bring this phone with me on vacation to Japan where it is currently very humid and it feels like 33+ degrees C (91+ degrees F) in the sun. Trying to use mobile data, GPS and Google Maps is not exactly pleasant for my hand. The worst part is trying to take some photos because the device's temperature gets uncomfortably high for my hand. Will try to measure the temperatures next time I go out!
I am also really glad that I brought an extra battery, although the output of the extra battery (per port) is just enough (2.4A) to keep the device's battery percentage stable while using mobile data and GPS (goes up when idle).
I also guessed hardware defect, but it now seems like I am not the only one with problems. I really hope that Huawei can fix some things in the software, including the heat issue.
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You should post your experiences in the battery thread, so it could have more visibility and people can start to acknowledge this, would be really nice from you to do it.
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Different screens
The P10 plus has a IPS LCD screen
The Mate 9 pro has a AMO-LED screen
maybe that adds to the difference in SOT for the two Huawei devices...
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The P10 plus has a IPS LCD screen
The Mate 9 pro has a AMO-LED screen
maybe that adds to the difference in SOT for the two Huawei devices...
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I'm sorry, but there is no way that the screen technology is the decisive factor between 3 and 6 hours SOT.
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adds to the difference
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decisive factor
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That's how you choose to read my post - but not what I wrote, IMHO
My point is to raise awareness about the different screen technologies, because I've seen more than one comparison where the two devices are said to use the same screen (probably because of same size and res.), but that is plain WRONG!
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That's how you choose to read my post - but not what I wrote, IMHO
My point is to raise awareness about the different screen technologies, because I've seen more than one comparison where the two devices are said to use the same screen (probably because of same size and res.), but that is plain WRONG!
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I understand your point, but still having AMOLED display means nothing in 2017. You can see the HTC U11 with LCD and has pretty goddamn battery life. You can have the normal Mate 9 with IPS and also has a really nice battery life. Right now screen technologies are really mature and it doesn't influence much (or at all) what kind is on a phone.
@Galaxo60
Point taken
Came from S8, I used it for a couple of months and now Im using P10 Plus.
Im more than happy now with P10+.
I have had my P10 Plus for about 2 months now and I can tell you I get around 5 hours of SOT with 1-2 of gaming. The battery stays at 100% for about 15 minutes regardless what I do and then begins to drop. Somehow form 70% downwards it starts to really slow its discharge rate. You might worry about this but the honest truth is that I can make it at the end of each day (around midnight) with around 15-20% battery left. For me this is more than enough as I recharge my phone every night.
I would suggest you stop worrying about your phone dying on you and just start using it. Also use Phone Manager once a day and you'll be good to go.
Hope it helps.
Simple use of the phone - browsing, instagram, google news, whatsapp, etc., the phone gets warm. Playing PUBG for 30 minutes, the phone gets a lot warmer, but never hot to the touch. The only way it stays cool is if I'm not using it at all. In comparison, my OnePlus 7 Pro stays cool all the time, except when playing graphic-heavy games.
Any setting I'm missing?
Welcome to the hot club!
That's odd my s21 ultra stays cool barely warm when gaming
If you have the Exynos version of the phone, then that could explain the heat. But if you have a SD888 variant, then your phone will still get a little warm, but not quite as hot as the Exynos.
Using GSAT to check temperature levels, any light activity gets the phone to about 36C to 37C. I tried restarting the phone about 5 times in a row and it went to about 44C.
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Using GSAT to check temperature levels, any light activity gets the phone to about 36C to 37C. I tried restarting the phone about 5 times in a row and it went to about 44C.
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Thanks for updating your post title =). That's the clarity we need for this phone on XDA.
Anyway, I'm unsure of this, but I'm pretty sure that when a phone is booting up it generally creates a tiny bit of heat because it's just getting everything initially setup for that boot.
But yeah, just be glad that you have the SD version. If you didn't, it might be even hotter! And I agree that this phone still gets pretty warm - I just haven't done any temperature tests on mine. Either way, do you happen to be using a case on this phone? I'm a caseless phone user and my phone still gets warm when used for an extended period of time... So I have a feeling that some thicker, heat sealing cases might be turning these phones into toasters...
*Edit* - maybe they'd be more like hand warmers? Lol
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If you have the Exynos version of the phone, then that could explain the heat. But if you have a SD888 variant, then your phone will still get a little warm, but not quite as hot as the Exynos.
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My exynos is cool.... And no im not a fanboy, had the note20 ultra exynos heater and sold it because of this **** chipset...
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Thanks for updating your post title =). That's the clarity we need for this phone on XDA.
Anyway, I'm unsure of this, but I'm pretty sure that when a phone is booting up it generally creates a tiny bit of heat because it's just getting everything initially setup for that boot.
But yeah, just be glad that you have the SD version. If you didn't, it might be even hotter! And I agree that this phone still gets pretty warm - I just haven't done any temperature tests on mine. Either way, do you happen to be using a case on this phone? I'm a caseless phone user and my phone still gets warm when used for an extended period of time... So I have a feeling that some thicker, heat sealing cases might be turning these phones into toasters...
*Edit* - maybe they'd be more like hand warmers? Lol
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Coming from a OnePlus 7 Pro, the heat generated during light use is so noticeable that I had to install a temp monitor (gsat). No problems with previous phone.
I have the official leather cover on, it may contribute to the heat but it shouldn't be that much, I reckon.
I don't need hand warmers haha.
What's GSAT? Can't find it in the play store
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What's GSAT? Can't find it in the play store
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Sorry, I meant GSam.
Snapdragon here as well. Mines never warm . Only when I set it up.
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Snapdragon here as well. Mines never warm . Only when I set it up.
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Please take a 10 minute 4K30 Video and say how much % battery it drained and if the phone got hot.
I also have the Snapdragon version and I'm not sure if what I'm experiencing is normal or not, but my phone gets warm often especially the aluminum on the top left opposite of the camera. I've been keeping track of the temperature and it seems like my phone is always operating around 33C - 35C on normal everyday use like browsing, instagram and youtube. When I use the camera it goes to almost 40C. These numbers are around 91F-95F and 104F respectively. I recorded a 3 minute video on 4k60 and that's when it hit around 40C. Really trying to figure out if I should do an exchange.
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Please take a 10 minute 4K30 Video and say how much % battery it drained and if the phone got hot.
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Exynos: Lost the same 5% as you reported, and phone got hot around the camera module. Temperature of surrounding environment was around 20-25 degrees celcius. The phone didn't feel especially hot in general otherwise (using a relatively slim case).
Losing 5% in 10 minutes means about 30% per hour. So one could record in 4K for about 3-4 hours straight? Is that really that bad?
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Exynos: Lost the same 5% as you reported, and phone got hot around the camera module. Temperature of surrounding environment was around 20-25 degrees celcius. The phone didn't feel especially hot in general otherwise (using a relatively slim case).
Losing 5% in 10 minutes means about 30% per hour. So one could record in 4K for about 3-4 hours straight? Is that really that bad?
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Yes it's bad in my opinion. My S20+ (with the infamous/bad Exynos 990) lost 5% in 15 minutes 4K30 video recording and got barely warm.
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Yes it's bad in my opinion. My S20+ (with the infamous/bad Exynos 990) lost 5% in 15 minutes 4K30 video recording and got barely warm.
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After how many updates though?
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After how many updates though?
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Many, many, many, many, many, many, many Updates. I hope they can improve it on the S21 too.
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Many, many, many, many, many, many, many Updates. I hope they can improve it on the S21 too.
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Yes, that's what I thought. I'm coming from the S9+, and there were several issues with that too when it first came out, which were all fixed with subsequent updates.
Just curious, how do you find the recording in FHD60? That's been my default recording as I don't actually have any 4K monitors.
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Yes it's bad in my opinion. My S20+ (with the infamous/bad Exynos 990) lost 5% in 15 minutes 4K30 video recording and got barely warm.
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Just thought I'd update here - re-tested with the April update. Lost 4% in 10 minutes on 4K30 video recording this time. Heating not as bad, although that's simply guessing/subjective (I don't have a heatgun).
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Just thought I'd update here - re-tested with the April update. Lost 4% in 10 minutes on 4K30 video recording this time. Heating not as bad, although that's simply guessing/subjective (I don't have a heatgun).
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It's just natural to lose 4% in 10 mins of 4k30fps recording. You are basically using all the system resources when operating the camera - i.e. the CPU, RAM and storage all run at the highest. It's not just this device you test this on any device iOS included and the results will be almost the same.