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I've always loved to root and install a custom ROM. If I ran into issues I could always run back to Sprint's default OS. Will there be stock samsung software if I run into issues with flashing?
Also, is there any benefit to getting the unlocked vs Sprint version other than being able to use it on other carriers?
Thanks!
Umm... Bad idea, if you're getting it for rooting. To the best of my knowledge the unlocked version won't be anymore able to root than the sprint version because they are both the snapdragon variants made for North America. Unless by unlocked version you mean the international version? That's the only one that will be rooted for a long, long time, if not ever.
Oh wow, really? That sucks. I like being able to customize my phone. If this is the same with unlocked and the Sprint version, I might cancel my pre order :/
AprilAr said:
I've always loved to root and install a custom ROM. If I ran into issues I could always run back to Sprint's default OS. Will there be stock samsung software if I run into issues with flashing?
Also, is there any benefit to getting the unlocked vs Sprint version other than being able to use it on other carriers?
Thanks!
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FWIW...From what the Samsung rep told me at my local BestBuy.. the Unlocked Note 8 is fully compatible with Verizon and AT&T. You might have some 'features/functionality' that is exclusive to the Sprint version because of the software tweaks that will only work on a Sprint version Note 8.
As you stated to be someone who roots/installs custom ROMs, think of it as why you need to install certain custom kernels, csc files, etc etc to make certain features work.
All "unlocked" means is that it's not locked into one carrier. It has nothing to do with a boot-loader unlock. I'm not saying it's not going to happen but I think the odds are slim. Someone may find a way to root the device which is all I really would like to see.
That really sucks. I guess I mainly liked not having bloatware which I have heard this phone doesn't have.... But I like to customize my menu and every other aspect of the phone. Hopefully the battery life is good compared to the Note 5
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That really sucks. I guess I mainly liked not having bloatware which I have heard this phone doesn't have.... But I like to customize my menu and every other aspect of the phone. Hopefully the battery life is good compared to the Note 5
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I agree, I have literally never used a stock (OEM ROM or aosp) ROM since like 2011. Resurrection for LIFE.
I will totally risk all that for the S-Pen though lol.
I don't use the S pen :/
That might make me a bad person, haha.
I have an N950F that I got through Vodafone (Build#NMF26X.N950FXXU1AQI1, CSC: VAU/VAU/VAU). When I go into Developer Options, there is no setting for OEM Unlock. Not sure if it means that the phone isn't locked to Vodafone to start with or if I need that setting to flash TWRP and then Magisk? I know the bootloader is unlocked (Exynos model) but the OEM Unlock setting seems to be causing a lot of confusion, with some people having it and some not.
Does anyone with a N950F bought through an Australian carrier have the OEM Unlock option in Developer Options?
Mate, I have an unbranded Note 8 that doesn't have OEM Unlock on it... Not sure what goes on there but this is a bit of a kick in the nuts for those that want to unlock...
We either flash a new recovery and brickour shiny new device or we can't in fear that it will brick...
I spent too much money on mine to try an experiment that more than likely will end in pain and anguish...
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Mate, I have an unbranded Note 8 that doesn't have OEM Unlock on it... Not sure what goes on there but this is a bit of a kick in the nuts for those that want to unlock...
We either flash a new recovery and brickour shiny new device or we can't in fear that it will brick...
I spent too much money on mine to try an experiment that more than likely will end in pain and anguish...
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I have the same problem and when I called Samsung Australia asking to unlock OEM, they said they don't have any information and cant give any advice.
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Mate, I have an unbranded Note 8 that doesn't have OEM Unlock on it... Not sure what goes on there but this is a bit of a kick in the nuts for those that want to unlock...
We either flash a new recovery and brickour shiny new device or we can't in fear that it will brick...
I spent too much money on mine to try an experiment that more than likely will end in pain and anguish...
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What CSC is your Note using? XSA? I don't think you'll brick your device, it'll just not work.
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I have the same problem and when I called Samsung Australia asking to unlock OEM, they said they don't have any information and cant give any advice.
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Well, either they have information and refuse to tell us (which is a pretty f**ked attitude towards customers who've paid for their flagship device) or they don't know a key piece of information about a device they sell at a premium.
I'm not sure which option is the most infuriating but both are totally unacceptable.
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What CSC is your Note using? XSA? I don't think you'll brick your device, it'll just not work.
Well, either they have information and refuse to tell us (which is a pretty f**ked attitude towards customers who've paid for their flagship device) or they don't know a key piece of information about a device they sell at a premium.
I'm not sure which option is the most infuriating but both are totally unacceptable.
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Using XSA..
Not surprising really that the help desk offers little to no help.....
Most times they have no idea about what you ask. I'm sure they look up on PC any problems asked about and can pretty much guarantee that Samsung won't want to help anyone unlock their device. The custom roms that are made make them look bad.....
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Using XSA..
Not surprising really that the help desk offers little to no help.....
Most times they have no idea about what you ask. I'm sure they look up on PC any problems asked about and can pretty much guarantee that Samsung won't want to help anyone unlock their device. The custom roms that are made make them look bad.....
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what is your carrier provider?
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what is your carrier provider?
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I have an Unbranded unlocked phone.
I put a Telstra sim in it. I also have a Kogan sim (Vodafone network) I haven't tried as yet..
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I have an Unbranded unlocked phone.
I put a Telstra sim in it. I also have a Kogan sim (Vodafone network) I haven't tried as yet..
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I checked kogan and vodafon 5min call. I was counting on Telstra. Did you check telstra 5min call?
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I checked kogan and vodafon 5min call. I was counting on Telstra. Did you check telstra 5min call?
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Mate, I call the olds every other day-dad has cancer and just checking in- I'm generally on the phone for at least an hour...
I've had this phone for since Tuesday the 19th... I got it pretty much the day after the supplier got their stock....
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Using XSA..
Not surprising really that the help desk offers little to no help.....
Most times they have no idea about what you ask. I'm sure they look up on PC any problems asked about and can pretty much guarantee that Samsung won't want to help anyone unlock their device. The custom roms that are made make them look bad.....
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Fortunately, since Samsung have made the OEM Unlock option such a pain for so many users, devs are working hard to make an app that will make this option visible to everyone. Guess we'll just have to wait until they figure it out. It's very early days for dev work on the Note 8 and using it without root isn't nearly as bad as it has been with previous phones. The need for root is still there for me, but not as urgent as it once was.
I also have unbranded bought from Samsung Australia it also don't have oem option, wth is wrong with Samsung. Is it becoming a new Apple?
I've re-checked in Developer Options and now the OEM Unlock option is there. One theory is that the visibility of this option is triggered by time, such as the official launch date or maybe some other measurement, like the amount of time since the device has been used (I booted up my Note 8 for the 1st time exactly a week ago). I suggest that you periodically check Developer Options as the OEM Unlock option may become visible without any user intervention.
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I've re-checked in Developer Options and now the OEM Unlock option is there. One theory is that the visibility of this option is triggered by time, such as the official launch date or maybe some other measurement, like the amount of time since the device has been used (I booted up my Note 8 for the 1st time exactly a week ago). I suggest that you periodically check Developer Options as the OEM Unlock option may become visible without any user intervention.
Which network are you on? From where did you buy the phone? Can you please share soft info page screenshot?
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Which network are you on? From where did you buy the phone? Can you please share soft info page screenshot?
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On the Vodafone network and bought through Vodafone.
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On the Vodafone network and bought through Vodafone.
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Lucky you, i bought from Samsung Australia and it is unbranded but still no oem unlock, i am on kogan which also uses Vodafone. Lets see if mine also get lock automatically
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I also have unbranded bought from Samsung Australia it also don't have oem option, wth is wrong with Samsung. Is it becoming a new Apple?
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I've bought from Samsung directly as well (XSA firmware). Currently on Optus.
The OEM unlock toggle didn't appear at first which irritated me, however with the software update last week all I had to do was disable and re enable developer options, and bingo. It's there.
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I've bought from Samsung directly as well (XSA firmware). Currently on Optus.
The OEM unlock toggle didn't appear at first which irritated me, however with the software update last week all I had to do was disable and re enable developer options, and bingo. It's there.
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Yeah!! Oem unlock function appeared for me as well.....
Also got mine pre-order from Voda, currently running N950FXXU1AQI1/XAU (19/09/17). Arrived on the 19th, I guess we'll see tomorrow if OEM unlock magically appears in developer options.
I'm not holding my breath though, Samsung have clearly decided to put a 'lock' in place which disables OEM unlock & which also stops the CSC being changed which might otherwise enable OEM unlock on a phone which doesn't have it (most of them).
Looks like most of us are probably waiting until someone inevitably breaks the lock, which will happen sooner or later, just probably not as quickly as if it was the flagship model (I.E the SGS8) with more developers working on the device.
Edit - Nope. I have my doubts about the 'time device used' theory. There's some other factor involved here. It doesn't even seem to be firmware dependent; poster in another thread also running AQI1 has it, I don't.
I have a Telstra branded model I bought of my nephews girlfriend and I cannot get OEM Unlock on it, and it won't allow me to do Wifi-Calling unless it has a Telstra sim card in it.
I have no reception where I live so rely on wifi calling and the fact that flashing XSA or even an Optus firmware doesn't work as it defaults back to Telstra, I am in a bind.
The only way I can change the CSC is with root, but I cannot root the phone without OEM unlock, so its an expensive wifi only phablet at present.
I got the oem unlock option on my note 8 n950f. I bought it unlocked from Harvey Norman Vicroria. I purchased it on 22 september and got the option now. Attached is proof and version I have. Im also using an optus sim only plan.
Here is the plan boys.
1. Wait for my T-Mobile OP6T to arrive
2. Use phone for 40 days
3. Sim Unlock the phone with T-Mobile
4. Unlock Bootloader: https://support.oneplus.com/app/ans...-bootloader-for-oneplus-6t-(t-mobile-version)
5. Flash non-TMobile OS version https://www.oneplus.com/support/softwareupgrade
6. Profit from receiving direct updates from OnePlus instead of Tmobile
Let me know what you think of the plan
Pretty much all of our plans at this point, unless an exploit or bypass is found.
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Here is the plan boys.
1. Wait for my T-Mobile OP6T to arrive
2. Use phone for 40 days
3. Sim Unlock the phone with T-Mobile
4. Unlock Bootloader: https://support.oneplus.com/app/ans...-bootloader-for-oneplus-6t-(t-mobile-version)
5. Flash non-TMobile OS version https://www.oneplus.com/support/softwareupgrade
6. Profit from receiving direct updates from OnePlus instead of Tmobile
Let me know what you think of the plan
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More to the above I want to get a dual sim slot and see if I can use dual sims once the OP OS version.
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More to the above I want to get a dual sim slot and see if I can use dual sims once the OP OS version.
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That's what I'm talkin' about.......... :good:
Don't you have to have the device paid off in full before you can Sim unlock?
If so, rather just buy directly from OP.
I am afraid your plan won't work even if you get your bootloader unlocked.
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I am afraid your plan won't work even if you get your bootloader unlocked.
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Interesting.
I purchased the Sprint variant of the Essential Phone and that allowed me to flash the non Sprint version, and get updates directly from Essential, so that answer is all BS.
I learned not to trust TMobile reps or OnePlus comments as they have no idea what the F*uck they are talking about most of the time.
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Interesting.
I purchased the Sprint variant of the Essential Phone and that allowed me to flash the non Sprint version, and get updates directly from Essential, so that answer is all BS.
I learned not to trust TMobile reps or OnePlus comments as they have no idea what the F*uck they are talking about most of the time.
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I hope he is wrong too but this coming from a OnePlus rep does have some weight. We will know in 40 days.
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I hope he is wrong too but this coming from a OnePlus rep does have some weight. We will know in 40 days.
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By the way, when I boot my phone it still says Sprint variant and all, but the software is not based on what Sprint is using on the Essential phone. SO the phone does not get magically changed, the software however is able to be switched over.
I guess its just a waiting game.
Anyone know if OnePlus releases full images off their phones so users can flash the stock images if they ever screw up the phone with modding?
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By the way, when I boot my phone it still says Sprint variant and all, but the software is not based on what Sprint is using on the Essential phone. SO the phone does not get magically changed, the software however is able to be switched over.
I guess its just a waiting game.
Anyone know if OnePlus releases full images off their phones so users can flash the stock images if they ever screw up the phone with modding?
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Yes they do at downloads.oneplus.com but looks like 6t section has not been added yet.
If your bootloader is unlocked and you're flashing roms, why does it matter if you get updates from OnePlus? They'll be posted here to flash the day they're pushed internationally.
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More to the above I want to get a dual sim slot and see if I can use dual sims once the OP OS version.
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OP phones are pretty easy to mod and I'm 99% sure we will be able to flash global version of OOS. Though we're gonna need a guinea pig to try out the process.. I just hope the codename is same (fajita) for the TMo variant.
#5 is not possible. Phone is locked down pass the bootloader.
I'm just going to return mine. I may get the 6t later but that finger print sensor is pretty meh at the moment. I do like the water drop notch and bigger battery tho
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#5 is not possible. Phone is locked down pass the bootloader.
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Once you unlock the bootloader, you should be able to flash TWRP then flash the global version of OOS. And as I said before, hoping that both the variants have the same codename.
You can get it unlocked now via TMobile. Many have. I went to TMobile help on Twitter and told them I wanted to unlock the bootloader. They bypassed the standard unlock policy. I was able to permanently unlock, toggle oem unlocking, and request my unlock code from OnePlus.
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You can get it unlocked now via TMobile. Many have. I went to TMobile help on Twitter and told them I wanted to unlock the bootloader. They bypassed the standard unlock policy. I was able to permanently unlock, toggle oem unlocking, and request my unlock code from OnePlus.
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Stupid question but did you pay off the device? Or do you still owe a balance
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Stupid question but did you pay off the device? Or do you still owe a balance
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Nope. I still owe full amount. I did the trade in, but that's it. They didn't challenge it one bit.
dchurch85 said:
Nope. I still owe full amount. I did the trade in, but that's it. They didn't challenge it one bit.
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Oh wow, thanks for the heads up. Will try now
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Oh wow, thanks for the heads up. Will try now
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Let me know how it goes for you. I used TMobile help on Twitter.
I am wondering if we have root or unlocked bootloaders fornthe note 9 on Verizon I just switched carriers from tmobile.
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I am wondering if we have root or unlocked bootloaders fornthe note 9 on Verizon I just switched carriers from tmobile.
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No.
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I am wondering if we have root or unlocked bootloaders fornthe note 9 on Verizon I just switched carriers from tmobile.
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They're all the same exact device.
Does this mean we have root? That doesnt answer the question also the no is a useless response. I'm a very old member here.
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Does this mean we have root? That doesnt answer the question also the no is a useless response. I'm a very old member here.
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Just not one who knows how to search for answers, LOL.
OK, you asked a yes or no question: Do we have root or unlocked bootloaders on the Verizon version of the Note 9?
The answer is no.
You mentioned you wanted to know because you were coming from T-Mobile, and you wanted to know about the Verizon version. I was explaining they are the same exact device.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you didn't understand your yes or no question had already been answered with "no," so rather than again say "no," I was trying to be helpful in explaining they're the same device, no matter what carrier you're on, so none of them have root.
This question has been answered several times already in this forum. There is a 99.99% chance we will never see an unlocked bootloader on the Snapdragon version of the Note 9, or the Note 8, or the S9/+, or the S8/+, or basically ANY Samsung Snapdragon device. There's also a very, VERY high chance you'll never see root. The last person who rooted a Snapdragon device (the Note 8) stated they closed up his hole for root, and he was basically done working on it.
If you want unlocked bootloaders and root, go with the Exynos version from over seas. Just say goodbye to carrier aggregation. And once you unlock that bootloader, say goodbye to Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass, Secure Folder, etc...
I've been considering a Note 9 to replace my recently dead Pixel XL. I bought my PXL unlocked straight from Google. I was able to unlock the bootloader from the settings, load TWRP, then flash SU.
Samsung doesn't offer the option to unlock the bootloader if you buy the phone (US version) straight from them?
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I've been considering a Note 9 to replace my recently dead Pixel XL. I bought my PXL unlocked straight from Google. I was able to unlock the bootloader from the settings, load TWRP, then flash SU.
Samsung doesn't offer the option to unlock the bootloader if you buy the phone (US version) straight from them?
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Nope.
Lol. How is "no" a useless answer to a yes or no question? That fully answered the question asked ?
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Just not one who knows how to search for answers, LOL.
OK, you asked a yes or no question: Do we have root or unlocked bootloaders on the Verizon version of the Note 9?
The answer is no.
You mentioned you wanted to know because you were coming from T-Mobile, and you wanted to know about the Verizon version. I was explaining they are the same exact device.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you didn't understand your yes or no question had already been answered with "no," so rather than again say "no," I was trying to be helpful in explaining they're the same device, no matter what carrier you're on, so none of them have root.
This question has been answered several times already in this forum. There is a 99.99% chance we will never see an unlocked bootloader on the Snapdragon version of the Note 9, or the Note 8, or the S9/+, or the S8/+, or basically ANY Samsung Snapdragon device. There's also a very, VERY high chance you'll never see root. The last person who rooted a Snapdragon device (the Note 8) stated they closed up his hole for root, and he was basically done working on it.
If you want unlocked bootloaders and root, go with the Exynos version from over seas. Just say goodbye to carrier aggregation. And once you unlock that bootloader, say goodbye to Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass, Secure Folder, etc...
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So if I get an Exynos note 9 and root it then I lose secure folder? No way to keep it?
Henhen59 said:
So if I get an Exynos note 9 and root it then I lose secure folder? No way to keep it?
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Henhen59 said:
So if I get an Exynos note 9 and root it then I lose secure folder? No way to keep it?
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Not only is there no way to KEEP it. There's no way to get it back. When you unlock the bootloader, you break Knox. That is a PERMANENT thing. It blows an E-Fuse, so you cannot reverse no matter what you try. And without Knox, you don't have Secure Folder.
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Not only is there no way to KEEP it. There's no way to get it back. When you unlock the bootloader, you break Knox. That is a PERMANENT thing. It blows an E-Fuse, so you cannot reverse no matter what you try. And without Knox, you don't have Secure Folder.
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Lol im still trying to figure out how it is people dont know all this stuff already, its been like this for how many years?
>Lol im still trying to figure out how it is people dont know all this stuff already, its been like this for how many years?<
I haven't upgraded since the Note 3 where I can get root without tripping Knox, block OS updates, and get root back any tine I want to. That it why I killed the Note 3's ability to update the OS, and why I didn't get the Note 4, 5, 6, and now am checking in on 8 and 9 to see where things are today. Now they are taking away the ability to record our own phone calls with "P", so I'm checking out where root is today before I upgrade. These capabilities we use for invoicing our time and business automation is a major reason for choosing Android. If Android is attempting to be like the iPhone, then we might as well buy iPhones. I'm not interested in only Google and the NSA having access to my conversations. I know some Android vendors are going around Google/Android and building it into the hardware, but that limits me to their phones.
I can't find anywhere with instructions to specifically root a Verizon OEM Locked pixel 5, maybe I overlooked. If I did can someone post a link please?
If not, then does anyone know if this would work?
Rooting your Bootlocked Pixel Phone (Verizon Edition)
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It was posted back in 2018 for a different Verizon based Pixel 1, just curious to know.
I need root so I can block certain bands from my phone. I have multiple bands in my area some are super slow and some are faster than broadband, for some reason my phone likes to auto connect to the slow bands and I can't block them without root, well at least not that I know of.
Thanks in advance for any answers, I really appreciate it.
i4m5up3rm4n said:
I can't find anywhere with instructions to specifically root a Verizon OEM Locked pixel 5, maybe I overlooked. If I did can someone post a link please?
If not, then does anyone know if this would work?
Rooting your Bootlocked Pixel Phone (Verizon Edition)
I bought a new Pixel phone on Ebay a couple months ago for testing an Android app i’m developing. To my surprise,the phone I received in the mail was not the...
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It was posted back in 2018 for a different Verizon based Pixel 1, just curious to know.
I need root so I can block certain bands from my phone. I have multiple bands in my area some are super slow and some are faster than broadband, for some reason my phone likes to auto connect to the slow bands and I can't block them without root, well at least not that I know of.
Thanks in advance for any answers, I really appreciate it.
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You can't find instructions for it because you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon branded Pixel 5. Sorry
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You can't find instructions for it because you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon branded Pixel 5. Sorry
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Okay, what about rooting? Is that still possible.
you need to unlock the bootloader to use magisk v22+
Unfortunately for rooting and unlocking bootloader, you can't do that with phones purchased through Verizon. You need to find an unlocked phone to do so. Swappa is a decent place to get one nowadays, but you have to pay in total, no payments can be made.
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Unfortunately for rooting and unlocking bootloader, you can't do that with phones purchased through Verizon. You need to find an unlocked phone to do so. Swappa is a decent place to get one nowadays, but you have to pay in total, no payments can be made.
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That could be slightly deceiving. An unlocked phone is carrier unlocked that's it. It does not mean you can unlock the bootloader. So technically you would need an unlockable bootloader device not merely an unlocked phone. You can buy an unlocked Verizon phone with no way of unlocking the bl as witnessed by the OP.
True, I should have worded that better!
If you know what you're looking for though, an unlocked device is still the best route, at least for Pixels. Most of the time if it's not locked to a carrier it can be rooted and unlocked. At least in my experience it's been this way. But I also ask questions and make sure I know what is being purchased before following through.
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Okay, what about rooting? Is that still possible.
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True, I should have worded that better!
If you know what you're looking for though, an unlocked device is still the best route, at least for Pixels. Most of the time if it's not locked to a carrier it can be rooted and unlocked. At least in my experience it's been this way. But I also ask questions and make sure I know what is being purchased before following through.
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It wasn't really meant to be critical of you, I'm sure you know all that. I've just seen too many horror stories of buying an unlocked device and not being able to bl unlock due to restrictions the carriers put on. Some have been lucky and paid off the device, begged tech support to allow bl unlock and succeeded in that request. And then there are those devices that are carrier unlocked and will never be bl unlocked like the Verizon models. So as you say, ask questions and make sure you know exactly what you are buying.
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You can't find instructions for it because you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon branded Pixel 5. Sorry
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Interesting. I have, it's not difficult. They just don't post it in the forums.
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Yes, it is. Stop acting like anything is impossible. You can switch this feature on, and off. Easily.
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You can't just say that with no proof and think anyone will take it seriously. So prove it, we're all ears.
Hell, if that were true, I would ONLY buy Verizon phones
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Yes, it is. Stop acting like anything is impossible. You can switch this feature on, and off. Easily.
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Provide instructions then. You just saying it can be done without providing them is a moot comment.
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Interesting. I have, it's not difficult. They just don't post it in the forums.
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Yes, it is. Stop acting like anything is impossible. You can switch this feature on, and off. Easily.
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Time to put up or... well you know. Posts like these will send new users on a wild goose chase attempting to gain root/bootloader unlock on their devices purchased from Verzion and end with them being unhappy that they can't.
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Time to put up or... well you know. Posts like these will send new users on a wild goose chase attempting to gain root/bootloader unlock on their devices purchased from Verzion and end with them being unhappy that they can't.
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Not if you truly know what you're doing. A few years ago people stopped posting about hacks and just share with a few friends. That way, they can't fix those problems. It was figured out back on the Pixel 2 they search these forums, we'd do hacks then be fixed in the very next update. You can think this and that is impossible, but you are sadly wrong. You can enable the OEM unlock on Verizon models, yes you can!
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Not if you truly know what you're doing. A few years ago people stopped posting about hacks and just share with a few friends. That way, they can't fix those problems. It was figured out back on the Pixel 2 they search these forums, we'd do hacks then be fixed in the very next update.
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Still not buying it. It has always been a game of cat and mouse when you're talking about going around security features of a device. Unless the flaw was in hardware, it was almost a given that the device would be updated and the vulnerability patched out. Second if some people did know how to unlock these devices they would almost certainly offer unlock services of some sort or there would be no point in keeping the information secretive.
JCBiznatch said:
You can enable the OEM unlock on Verizon models, yes you can!
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So what's the point of posting this if you're not going to offer any guidance on how to do it other than essentially saying you have to know "someone".
It's sad how things like this can become so twisted and turned and convoluted. It doesn't do any good does it? None that I can see.
I'm guessing, but anyone talking about a vzw being unlockable is probably referring to someone who got a vzw 'in the box', unopened and never activated.
I just got a pix3 in that condition, and yes, remove vzw sim, boot up minimal except connect wifi, enable dev and turn on oem unlock... it does work.
But the key is 'never activated'. It seems pretty clear that what happens when u buy from vzw, they won't give u the phone without activating it. So it has to be old stock, unsold, vzw is trying to move out of their warehouses.
cheers
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Still not buying it. It has always been a game of cat and mouse when you're talking about going around security features of a device. Unless the flaw was in hardware, it was almost a given that the device would be updated and the vulnerability patched out. Second if some people did know how to unlock these devices they would almost certainly offer unlock services of some sort or there would be no point in keeping the information secretive.
So what's the point of posting this if you're not going to offer any guidance on how to do it other than essentially saying you have to know "someone".
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If you know how to hack, you know how to do this. Am I going to give a step by step guide? No, I'm not going to sit back and give them the information they need to know. Simple as that. I'll keep hacking every Pixel that comes out, directly ordered from Verizon.
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But the key is 'never activated'. It seems pretty clear that what happens when u buy from vzw, they won't give u the phone without activating it. So it has to be old stock, unsold, vzw is trying to move out of their warehouses.
cheers
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Nothing about that statement is correct, sorry. It's been proved time and time again.
JCBiznatch said:
If you know how to hack, you know how to do this. Am I going to give a step by step guide? No, I'm not going to sit back and give them the information they need to know. Simple as that. I'll keep hacking every Pixel that comes out, directly ordered from Verizon.
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What's your definition of "hack"?
If you really can do this, why don't you offer to do it for people? I'm sure more than a few would be happy to throw you some $$ to get their Verizon devices unlocked. I did this back in the days of the HTC devices when a Java card was the only bootloader unlock method. You'd also get less blowback than effectively saying "Nah nah I know how to do this but I'm not going to tell you."