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MobileIron detects Magisk's systemless root

Has anyone been able to get Magisk to work with MobileIron (enterprise device admin app)? I'm on a Nexus 6p with Magisk 13 beta and it detected that my device was rooted and disabled the MobileIron app.
Note: my devices passes the SafetyNet checks just fine

Have you added the app to the Hide list?
More things an app might detect can be found here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-magisk-hide-troubleshooting-tips-t3561828
Check under "Other things to try".

I did try hiding without luck. I wonder if MobileIron's Device Administrator status somehow bypasses that.

Try uninstall the magisk manager app, any sudo management apps, etc.
Then if that doesn't work, try uninstall some of the well known root apps like titanium backup etc.

thedeejay said:
Try uninstall the magisk manager app, any sudo management apps, etc.
Then if that doesn't work, try uninstall some of the well known root apps like titanium backup etc.
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Yup, this is probably it. Out of curiosity i decompiled the apk, and it looks like mobileiron relies pretty strongly on package names, I didn't get the list (pulls from a server), but its probably looking for known root related apps.
Dont know how to solve that.
That mobileiron stuff looks terrible.

Nye-uhls said:
Yup, this is probably it. Out of curiosity i decompiled the apk, and it looks like mobileiron relies pretty strongly on package names, I didn't get the list (pulls from a server), but its probably looking for known root related apps.
Dont know how to solve that.
That mobileiron stuff looks terrible.
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That's a very interesting way for it to be done.
If you are using an adblock, maybe check where it is polling from and block that IP through your hosts file.
Otherwise, you don't actually need the MagiskManager once everything is set up. If you uninstall, you still have root and MagiskHide working in the background, so maybe go for this and ensure that MobileIron is included in the MagiskHide list.

tried removing all suspicious apps (old SU apps, busybox, Magisk, etc) but still seems to see it
edit: nevermind, looks like Root File Explorer was the culprit

Please elaborate for the culprit,
Do you manage to run mobileiron with magisk?

cikenkari said:
Please elaborate for the culprit,
Do you manage to run mobileiron with magisk?
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Well it stopped giving me the root error message, yes. However, the email app doesn't seem to work for me, but that may be a separate issue.

elenaran said:
Well it stopped giving me the root error message, yes. However, the email app doesn't seem to work for me, but that may be a separate issue.
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Try to reinstall the app. I've Magisk V13 beta on Android 7.1. Secure Mail app (another type of enterprise email app) works fine. One time, it stopped working. I had to reinstall it to make it work again.

zrzhu said:
Try to reinstall the app. I've Magisk V13 beta on Android 7.1. Secure Mail app (another type of enterprise email app) works fine. One time, it stopped working. I had to reinstall it to make it work again.
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Well the problem is the email app doesn't seem to accept my user/pass. I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling.

elenaran said:
Well the problem is the email app doesn't seem to accept my user/pass. I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling.
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Try previous versions?

elenaran said:
Well the problem is the email app doesn't seem to accept my user/pass. I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling.
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I had the same issue (firm is shifting all their Android users onto [email protected]). Spent untold hours with support and finally they realized there was a problem with my account ActiveSync at their end. The Mail+ app wasn't supposed to be asking for password at all.
Once they flipped the switch on that, everything worked.

at the moment i have the some problem with that root detection.. i don't know how to solve :-/ in the pasted it worked with magisk-hide.. but now :'-(

months later.. anykind of solutions?

When the company I worked at moved to MobileIron, I refused to put it on my device. They bought me (and paid service for) an iPhone for work and installed it on that.
If they require your off-hours attention, but don't consider you valuable enough for that investment, you may want to consider moving to a company that considers you less expendable.

it is not really a solution if you are independently, but thanks for you reply

I have been trying to achieve this as well, removed all root apps but still got an email saying that my device is rooted

Unfortunately, this is still an issue with the latest beta (16.6).

Any update here? I am experiencing the same issue

Banking app crashes

Hi,
I have a banking app wich loink I provide hereby: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rsi.ruralviawallet2
In the latest versions it just crashes, and after force closing and few opening and closing the app tells me that the system is modified and cannot run.
I have MAGISK 16 with magisk hide and the app checked to hide root, USB debugging deactivated as well...
Tried to use the uninstall magisk and un-SU scripts and cache clean but still crashing, So it may not have anything to do with Magisk, but since I had it installed it may have left something over there that the app is detecting as a mofied system...
Any Ideas ?
Thanks so much for your help

Make sure to also hide the Manager. I can open the app just fine if it's added to the Hide list and with the Manager hidden.
There might also be other things causing issues... Check here for more tips:
https://www.didgeridoohan.com/magisk/MagiskHide#hn_Hiding_root_from_apps

Thank you
Anyhow it's still not working, I have uninstalled all the apps that can be only runt with Root in case that was the cause, but still crashing. The Phone is unrooted now...
I will try now to Re-intall Magisk and hide everything, see if it does work :S
If anyone has a similar issue or idea, all help would me much appreciated.
Thanks again

whitenoyz said:
Thank you
Anyhow it's still not working, I have uninstalled all the apps that can be only runt with Root in case that was the cause, but still crashing. The Phone is unrooted now...
I will try now to Re-intall Magisk and hide everything, see if it does work :S
If anyone has a similar issue or idea, all help would me much appreciated.
Thanks again
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When you don't have Magisk installed there are a whole bunch of stuff that may trigger the app that MagiskHide otherwise hides. Try with Magisk again...

Thank you very much for your help!!
For people that's having the same issue, I've solved it uninstalling several apps like TWRP MANAGER, ROOT EXPLORER and other apps that can only be used with root, after did a wipe cache and rebooted.
Take care with TWRP, when you install the recovery it asks to install an APK and usually almost everyone hits yes. This app is most likely detected by some apps and considered as system modification. @Didgeridoohan thank you!! ( It may be useful to put tjis in your Wiki for everyone to be warned about this so you dont receive this question again )
Reinstalled Magisk, Hid the Magisk Manager, selected the app to hide on the list and it worked!
Everything's fine now.
Thanks a lot for you kind help

bkash app
pixel 9.0 rom bkash app not working.... every rooted app unstall also twrp manager dismiss. clear the CAcHe & facory resat but result is bkash app not run

Can Barclays App be used on rooted devices with Magisk?

I'm looking for a way to use Barclays App with my rooted phone (P8Lite). I thought Magisk will do it, but for some reason, it seems the app still detects the phone is rooted.
What I did:
- installed Magisk
- installed Barclays App (did NOT start the app!)
- Set Barclays App to Hide, in Magisk Hide menu
- rebooted the phone (just to be sure, I don't think it was required)
- checked if the app was still marked as hidden (it was)
- started Barclays App => It detected the phone is rooted
Anyone able to use Barclays App with rooted phone? If yes, how?
Cheers.

You forgot an important step: hiding the Manager itself.
More on hiding root in the Magisk guide.

Didgeridoohan said:
You forgot an important step: hiding the Manager itself.
More on hiding root in the Magisk guide.
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Do you know if barclays app also detects other apps like xposed or Root Uninstaller? Like "indirectly" detecting if the phone is rooted?

derei said:
Do you know if barclays app also detects other apps like xposed or Root Uninstaller? Like "indirectly" detecting if the phone is rooted?
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No idea, but that is a quite common detection method...

Didgeridoohan said:
No idea, but that is a quite common detection method...
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Were you able to use Barclays App with rooted phone?

derei said:
Were you able to use Barclays App with rooted phone?
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I've never used the app... But, IIRC, it's one of the banking apps with dependencies.

If anyone was able to run Barclays app on rooted phone, I'd appreciate to share their experience.

Didn't work for me. Hid the app and magisk. Disabled Xposed and passed SafetyNet. Device showing certified under Playstore. App was starting and crashing.

derei said:
If anyone was able to run Barclays app on rooted phone, I'd appreciate to share their experience.
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If I hide the Manager, add the app and the phone app (com.android.phone) to the Hide list, it starts just fine. Otherwise it doesn't start and complains about a rooted phone. If the app has detected root once, I have to clear app data for it to work. Can't test more than that since I'm not a customer of that bank.
All of this is documented in the links I've posted above...

Didgeridoohan said:
If I hide the Manager, add the app and the phone app (com.android.phone) to the Hide list, it starts just fine. Otherwise it doesn't start and complains about a rooted phone. If the app has detected root once, I have to clear app data for it to work. Can't test more than that since I'm not a customer of that bank.
All of this is documented in the links I've posted above...
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Will test using your workaround. Still, is weird that you need to hide the phone app. Any particular reason why this is needed?

derei said:
Will test using your workaround. Still, is weird that you need to hide the phone app. Any particular reason why this is needed?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...ces-magisk-t3779919/post76283404#post76283404

Didgeridoohan said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...ces-magisk-t3779919/post76283404#post76283404
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thanks, I guess I missed that reading yesterday.

Didgeridoohan said:
If I hide the Manager, add the app and the phone app (com.android.phone) to the Hide list, it starts just fine. Otherwise it doesn't start and complains about a rooted phone. If the app has detected root once, I have to clear app data for it to work. Can't test more than that since I'm not a customer of that bank.
All of this is documented in the links I've posted above...
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Thanks! Followed your tip but no luck. App crashing straight after giving phone permission.

gkornaks said:
Thanks! Followed your tip but no luck. App crashing straight after giving phone permission.
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I'm assuming you've cleared data for the Barclay app...
What about other known root apps on your device?

Didgeridoohan said:
I'm assuming you've cleared data for the Barclay app...
What about other known root apps on your device?
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Yes, I did. Got one app hidden from Magisk and working.

@Didgeridoohan
As you've been asking about other root apps, I have the following:
-Magisk
- Greenify
-BusyBox
-Amplify
-Link2SD
-Root Uninstaller Pro
-SD Maid
(Not sure if I will install Xposed, but most probably I will)

gkornaks said:
Yes, I did. Got one app hidden from Magisk and working.
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No, I mean: Do you have any apps on your device that the Barclay app might detect? Kind of like below...
derei said:
@Didgeridoohan
As you've been asking about other root apps, I have the following:
-Magisk
- Greenify
-BusyBox
-Amplify
-Link2SD
-Root Uninstaller Pro
-SD Maid
(Not sure if I will install Xposed, but most probably I will)
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If Busybox means that you have Stericson's or Jrummy's Busybox installer, yes those might trigger apps looking for signs of root. Use @osm0sis Busybox from the Magisk repo and you'll be good to go (it'll be hidden by Magisk, since it's a Magisk module). Root Uninstaller is another app that has been known to trigger a reaction.
But, easiest way for you to know is to freeze or uninstall those apps and see if it works.
If you install Xposed you can be sure that there'll be a whole lot of apps triggering. Xposed can't be hidden and need to be deactivated if there's an app you want to use that doesn't like it.

Didgeridoohan said:
No, I mean: Do you have any apps on your device that the Barclay app might detect? Kind of like below...
If Busybox means that you have Stericson's or Jrummy's Busybox installer, yes those might trigger apps looking for signs of root. Use @osm0sis Busybox from the Magisk repo and you'll be good to go (it'll be hidden by Magisk, since it's a Magisk module). Root Uninstaller is another app that has been known to trigger a reaction.
But, easiest way for you to know is to freeze or uninstall those apps and see if it works.
If you install Xposed you can be sure that there'll be a whole lot of apps triggering. Xposed can't be hidden and need to be deactivated if there's an app you want to use that doesn't like it.
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I've got few like Greenify, DNS changer and UMS enabler root apps. The rest is Magisk modules: Xposed and Busybox which were disabled when I was trying to launch Barclaycard app. It was complaining about the root just crashing after granting phone permissions. Got it working on my IPhone anyway. Thanks!

Good news:
Barclays app is working with Magistik.
I had to hide:
-barclays
-dialer
and as a precaution:
-app systemizer (magistik module)
-sd maid + Pro key
-Solid Explorer (as it can use root features)
I had to remove:
-Xposed (even though it was installed as magistik module)
-Amplify
I'm curious if there would be a way to DISABLE Xposed when Barclays is used, in a way that it won't be discovered (and no reboot required, ideally). In this way, maybe I could use Amplify... any ideas?
Main point is that I'm not using Barclays App all day long, so a small inconvenience would be accepted when I need the app, but Amplify is providing considerable benefit continuously, so it would make sense to have a compromise that keeps both with minimum of complications/discomfort.

Barclays App works if you hide it in Magisk Manager and you hide Magisk manager manager. No need to hide Phone Dialer.
If the described setup does not work, means your system is "dirty". In your case you had Xposed installed. Even if can be installed as a Magisk Module, YOU WILL BREAK HIDING SYSTEM IF YOU INSTALL XPOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have to make a decision. Pick one:
- Barclays
- Xposed
Next time search in the main Magisk support thread, because me and others have discussed about Barclays app many times.

Magisk Hide not working for Pokemon Go

I'm using a Galaxy S8, Android 7.0, Magisk 16.6. When I try to play Pokemon go, it gives me the "OS not supported" message. The 16.3 fix didn't work back when it came out and I haven't been able to play since then. I did check the app in Magisk Hide and I activated the setting to hide Magisk Manager with a random package name, but it still doesn't work. Is there anything else I should do?

The only thing you can do that will work is to completely uninstall magisk. That should let you play pokemon go.

Pokemon also looks for a bunch of known root apps on your device, not only Magisk. And MagiskHide can't hide other apps.

Didgeridoohan said:
Pokemon also looks for a bunch of known root apps on your device, not only Magisk. And MagiskHide can't hide other apps.
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What are those apps?

vladone97 said:
What are those apps?
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There are a whole bunch... Busybox installers, system cleaners, etc. There's an old list available somewhere in the Magisk PoGo thread (search), but that list might be outdated. Easiest thing is to uninstall some root apps and see if it works better.

An easier alternative, if you have the means to do it, is to use a clean spare phone/tablet for Pokemon Go, and keep your phone how you need/want it for everything else. Bluetooth data sharing is enough bandwidth to make PoGo work.

PoGo 0.115.3 not working, no login
Didgeridoohan said:
There are a whole bunch... Busybox installers, system cleaners, etc. There's an old list available somewhere in the Magisk PoGo thread (search), but that list might be outdated. Easiest thing is to uninstall some root apps and see if it works better.
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hello sorry for my bad english, today the new update 0.115.3 no login with magisk hide. I use a custom room with many root apps. wich is the solution? please can u say it itemized step by step?

StanGumn said:
hello sorry for my bad english, today the new update 0.115.3 no login with magisk hide. I use a custom room with many root apps. wich is the solution? please can u say it itemized step by step?
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Sure.
Make sure you have Pokemon on the Hide list.
Hide the Magisk Manager (in the Manager settings)
Delete the MagiskManager folder on your internal storage (next time you download/install a module through the Manager the folder will be recreated).
Edit: There will likely be an update to Magisk that will hide the MagiskManager folder. But for now this is a workaround.

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Sure.
Make sure you have Pokemon on the Hide list.
Hide the Magisk Manager (in the Manager settings)
Delete the MagiskManager folder on your internal storage (next time you download/install a module through the Manager the folder will be recreated).
Edit: There will likely be an update to Magisk that will hide the MagiskManager folder. But for now this is a workaround.
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Hmmm, tried all this, but still PoGo will not comply, even when I sandbox it in the work profile. (island app) The latter sounds a bit strange to me, as it should limit access to anything. (Magisk Manager gets installed, but is hidden)
To be honest, PoGo is just a test for when they start messing with Ingress as well. When it's getting to much trouble to have the app behave, it's out. They are just games, nothing to compromise my device for.

Also rename or delete every file or folder on your internal storage / sdcard that contains "magisk"

michikrug said:
Also rename or delete every file or folder on your internal storage / sdcard that contains "magisk"
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Any file? Not only the directory, but one that can be found somewhere on the device/external sdcard? (Like Magisk-v16.7.zip which you need to install it...)
Strange it should see it when sandboxed.

You can try, someone else said so, I did also do it and had no problem anymore so far.
But you should be right, that when its sandboxed it should not see it anyways...

michikrug said:
You can try, someone else said so, I did also do it and had no problem anymore so far.
But you should be right, that when its sandboxed it should not see it anyways...
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Will try to access sandbox via adb and see what I can find.

guys I own a redmi 3s and using 9.6.1.0 arvanasoft rom. Even on latest pokemon go version after hinding magisk manager and deleting magisk folder it's working just fine. But when I install other newer custom roms pokemon go gives me error like unable to find data on server or unable to authenticate pls try again later. but again when I restore back my old rom it works just fine. Pls help me how can I make pogo work on newer custom roms.
sorry for bad english

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Hmmm, tried all this, but still PoGo will not comply, even when I sandbox it in the work profile. (island app) The latter sounds a bit strange to me, as it should limit access to anything. (Magisk Manager gets installed, but is hidden)
To be honest, PoGo is just a test for when they start messing with Ingress as well. When it's getting to much trouble to have the app behave, it's out. They are just games, nothing to compromise my device for.
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Before using the hide magisk manager option, make sure magisk manager is NOT a system app. This will successfully repack magisk manager.
Then delete magisk fodler from internal storage and hide PoGO.
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Vinayakn73 said:
guys I own a redmi 3s and using 9.6.1.0 arvanasoft rom. Even on latest pokemon go version after hinding magisk manager and deleting magisk folder it's working just fine. But when I install other newer custom roms pokemon go gives me error like unable to find data on server or unable to authenticate pls try again later. but again when I restore back my old rom it works just fine. Pls help me how can I make pogo work on newer custom roms.
sorry for bad english
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May be other ROMs come with integrated Magisk. That was the case in mine. Convert it to user app first.
Then try magisk hide again and look for the package name in app info (It should be something random). Then continue with other steps as it is and it should work fine.
Let us know how it goes

Hi togehter,
if you use the Fake GPS Route, then uninstall via TWRP Magisk and then works PoGo (new version) perfekt, that works with my Samsung S5
I have a problem with my Samsung S7 edge, if I uninstall Magisk, then I have the problem, that the S7 go to a bootloop <--- Have anyone a idea?
Samsung S7 Edge
6.0.1
SecurePatch 01.12.2016
TWRP Recovery
If I install Magisk again, then boot the Samsung S7 without a bootloop, but then dont work PoGo
Xamel

Uninstall in the magisk app not by flashing a zip in recovery

Before I rooted my XZ premium I played pokemon go Just fine, afer Just enabling developer options (still locked bootloader and not rooted) it did not work Annymore, switching off developer options fixed pokemon go again.
Now with properly rooted Phone with magisk busybox, and whole bunch of rooted apps I am stuck as wel.... bonkers!!! !!

Could someone find a solution?

https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/please-help-unable-to-play-pokemon-t3837451

MagiskHide and Banking App Weird behavior

Hello to all folks,
This is a weird one.
My banking app could see rooted state although the app was in the hide list and also the Magisk Manager was hidden too (renamed, reinstalled etc).
So I was out of options until I read this:
https://www.didgeridoohan.com/magisk/MagiskHideHidingRoot
Among other useful bits and pieces it says "If an app still can detect Magisk, even if you have it on the Hide list, the Manager is repackaged and everything else from this list of tips is ok, try to uninstall the Manager and see if this helps. If that works, you might be out of luck and the only way to fully use the app in question is to regularly uninstall and then reinstall the Magisk Manager..."
I did so and here is the crazy part...
After uninstalling magisk manager app then a series of things took place:
My banking app now works ok
Root checker says root not properly applied
All apps that need root to work (TitaniumBk, Adaway, CallRecorder) see device as rooted and work flawlessly.
In other words, as like magic everything works fantastic!
Problem/Question/Worry: What will happen after I reboot?
Any ideas please?
Thank you very much!

You just made my day! Someone actually did their homework...
If you don't have the Manager installed you will end up having issues with superuser requests. Reinstalling the Manager after using the banking app is probably a good idea. Or you could probably set up a script or an app to freeze and unfreeze the Manager at the press off a button. I'll have to look into that and add to the guide.

Update:
I had to uninstall and reinstall TitaniumBk and sure enough TitaniumBk didn't get root permissions.
So I installed again Magisk Manager and updated to 8.0.0 and decided to try once more to hide Magisk Manager by renaming it to a different name than "Manager".
I noticed an important difference compared to previous endless times of hiding MM: The newly installed MM had a diferrent icon than the original one with the masked face.
And then...
...magic happened!
All banking apps didn't decect root!
Root checker could see device rooted!
Conclusions:
1. Either the MM 8.0.0 has a better hide MM feature
2.or my installation of MM 7.5.1 wasn't robust
Who knows...
Anyway this is my underatnding and I wsih there is a script to freeze/unfreeze MM with the push of button because in this battle of app developers against MM it's not always safe to assume that the "hide MM" feature will do the trick.
Thnak you again

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1. Either the MM 8.0.0 has a better hide MM feature
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This, most likely.
With this new Manager, the stub that is used is completely empty (which is why you're seeing the basic Android icon) and much harder to detect.