General Aod use so much battery - Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra

everyone advice.
I use s21u hongkong dual sim version.
Why does the always on dipsplay use so much battery?
Other devices with this aod don't consume that much battery
Also, if you use Hong Kong version s21u, what battery do you use?
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dungtienkm said:
everyone advice.
I use s21u hongkong dual sim version.
Why does the always on dipsplay use so much battery?
Other devices with this aod don't consume that much battery
Also, if you use Hong Kong version s21u, what battery do you use?
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What do you mean by a LOT? I see for almost 7 hours hours of use and 3 hours of screen time it has consumed only 2.8%. That's nothing. Plus you got 60% left. I don't understand how can you actually complain from that... :/

Get a Fit2 -- gives you all your notifications on your wrist for $50. No more annoying notification tones, just a wrist-vibration with week long battery life easily.

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[Q] Battery consumption N7000

Hello,
I know people have talked again and again about this problem. But I have to ask again because until now I did not found any solution. I have a N7000 and a 7000mah battery (I had in the past a 5000mah battery). My mobile phone looks like a old TV but guess what, the battery holds maximum one day! I have had the problem with all my mobiles in the past (HTC HD2, HTC sensation). I have tried to find the problem by using betterbatterystate with no success. I always turn off bluetooth, GPS and so on. I have installed juice defender ultimate for a long time on my mobile, it makes everything worst. I have really tried too many things, but they all did not help. Is there something that I am missing??? Or is it android?? Is iphone better than that? I am a heavy user but maximum one day with 7000mah?? With the original battery I have to laugh when I look at my battery consumption.
Please give me some new tips. Something that really works. What is wrong with me????
It depends on how you use it....
Most smartphone should have no problem with 48+hrs "standby time"
But in most cases, the only thing that consume the most energy is the display.
I always keep it at the lowest. (only turn on auto while using under sunlight)
I turn off gps, mobile data, wifi. (only turn them on when I need them)
I get around 5 hours (max) with the stock battery. (Screen on time)
But if you are gaming, well you will be lucky if you even get 3 hours.
For games, its depends on how its being code. I have 2D games (Kairosoft games eg. Game Dev Story) which has a greater impact on battery life than a 3D game.
*There are a lot of fake batteries out there, falsely labelling their battery with higher mah. Good battery usually cost $50+.
a 7000mAh should be around $80 (exclude shipping)
Also, a 7000 mAh battery would be three times the size of the original. I honestly believe that the announced 7000 mAh batteries are no where near their announced capacity.
My suggestion would be to buy an original samsung battery. That is what I did and the battery lasts for a day, or for 6-8 hrs with heavy usage.
comscier said:
It depends on how you use it....
Most smartphone should have no problem with 48+hrs "standby time"
But in most cases, the only thing that consume the most energy is the display.
I always keep it at the lowest. (only turn on auto while using under sunlight)
I turn off gps, mobile data, wifi. (only turn them on when I need them)
I get around 5 hours (max) with the stock battery. (Screen on time)
But if you are gaming, well you will be lucky if you even get 3 hours.
For games, its depends on how its being code. I have 2D games (Kairosoft games eg. Game Dev Story) which has a greater impact on battery life than a 3D game.
*There are a lot of fake batteries out there, falsely labelling their battery with higher mah. Good battery usually cost $50+.
a 7000mAh should be around $80 (exclude shipping)
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I dont play any games with the phone. I use it mostly to call or chat or browse. Regarding the fake battery you are may be right. It costs only about 15 $. I have switched back to the original battery but still, it does not look good. I still dont know what is wrong with my n7000
se1988 said:
Also, a 7000 mAh battery would be three times the size of the original. I honestly believe that the announced 7000 mAh batteries are no where near their announced capacity.
My suggestion would be to buy an original samsung battery. That is what I did and the battery lasts for a day, or for 6-8 hrs with heavy usage.
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I have checked the healthy of the original battery with some apps and they show all "good healthy". Should I still buy another one? How long is the life time of the original battery?
ht96 said:
I have checked the healthy of the original battery with some apps and they show all "good healthy". Should I still buy another one? How long is the life time of the original battery?
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never trust an app to tell you how your battery are doing.
I would recommend you to buy an original Samsung battery. They have a life span of several years, but should be changed after one year as the capacity deteriorates.
ht96 said:
I dont play any games with the phone. I use it mostly to call or chat or browse. Regarding the fake battery you are may be right. It costs only about 15 $. I have switched back to the original battery but still, it does not look good. I still dont know what is wrong with my n7000
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buy a new battery, your battery maybe dying
make sure you get the real thing though.
Do some digging before making any purchase.

Worried about Mi 5 battery life

I ordered this device yesterday but I worried about battery life, in reviews spoken the battery life was bad.
I dont have the device yet.
In the future the battery life was improvement on system updates?
saarxee said:
I ordered this device yesterday but I worried about battery life, in reviews spoken the battery life was bad.
I dont have the device yet.
In the future the battery life was improvement on system updates?
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I have to say I find the battery life to be outstanding if you are using the chinese rom. If using the global one it is really poor. There is another thread on here about battery life. Have a look at that
How much SOT on chinese rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/discussion-xiami-mi-5-battery-life-t3338693
I look that but I Asks you.
Chinese rom was better than global on performance and camera?
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I look that but I Asks you.
Chinese rom was better than global on performance and camera?
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In my opinion the chiense rom is much better although there are obviously some chinese apps there too
I'm reviewing the phone at the moment, my results on GeekBench 06:30:30 for runtime and a score of 3905 with the screen on maximum brightness. I've used the phone with dual-SIM and single-SIM and not struggled with it at all. MIUI 6.3.31 and it's the 64/3GB model. Hope that's of some help!
Battery life is usually good. SOT around 5 hrs for me and I usually play games.
However stand by is really odd one both the roms. Sometimes overnight it consumes 1%-3% sometime s 20%-25%, I still can't figure out why.
25% in night?? why?
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Battery life is usually good. SOT around 5 hrs for me and I usually play games.
However stand by is really odd one both the roms. Sometimes overnight it consumes 1%-3% sometime s 20%-25%, I still can't figure out why.
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Never seen that with mine. While at work during the day I only use it for the odd call and some texts along with a small amount of browsing. With the chinese rom I would have 85% charge left when I get home but with the global rom doing the same I would have about 65% left so clearly it wasnt going to sleep properly. Maybe thats what you are seeing
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Battery life is usually good. SOT around 5 hrs for me and I usually play games.
However stand by is really odd one both the roms. Sometimes overnight it consumes 1%-3% sometime s 20%-25%, I still can't figure out why.
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You have LG G2 before Mi 5? this is huge upgrade? better device in camera and more?
saarxee said:
You have LG G2 before Mi 5? this is huge upgrade? better device in camera and more?
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No, I haven't updated my signature from so long.
I have used nexus 5, galaxy s6(lost), lg g4 and oneplus 2 after Lg g2. For me galaxy s6 was the best device I have ever used.
Mi5 has a mediocre camera nothing exceptional about it xiaomi is creating hype about 4-axis and things however in reality it can't capture full hd video smoothly.
For sure Mi5 has better sound and battery and chipset but software wise I think any other phone out is better than this MIUI crap.
and believe me MIUI can never get fixed until and unless they changed their framework completely. As of now MIUI 7 is based on MM but it doesn't have a single feature of MM so what is the use of such OS. MIUI is for users who just want to keep applying themes and do nothing else.
I am never going to buy xiaomi again.
Hoping I get my hands on an AOSP or CM ROM soon or else I have to sell this ****.
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skoobee said:
Never seen that with mine. While at work during the day I only use it for the odd call and some texts along with a small amount of browsing. With the chinese rom I would have 85% charge left when I get home but with the global rom doing the same I would have about 65% left so clearly it wasnt going to sleep properly. Maybe thats what you are seeing
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I really don't know what is wrong but I experience the same on both the ROM's, yesterday I got 7.2.12 and after that it consumed only 3 % overnight even with alarm on.
Also, I have one more strange bug whenever I start playing coc my wifi gets disconnected and it gets disconnected randomly too, are you facing any such thing like this.
You have the wakelock qpnp_fg_memaccess that is draining battery. Check with wackelock detector..
Same happened to me one night from 40% to 6% in 6 hours..
This happened because Qualcomm introduced a new feature called Fuel Gauge that is managing the battery and is not working really like it should..
Strange.. I used my phone heavily(not gaming of course) and hardly to hit 70% in 8 hours during day time.
Sent from my MI 5 using Tapatalk
spavian said:
You have the wakelock qpnp_fg_memaccess that is draining battery. Check with wackelock detector..
Same happened to me one night from 40% to 6% in 6 hours..
This happened because Qualcomm introduced a new feature called Fuel Gauge that is managing the battery and is not working really like it should..
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So what does one do about it? its my first day on mi5, i cant say that battery is bad.. its almost same as on a Sony Z5P.
My Mi5 is doing great on the battery... I use it at work i use it at home... during the night it drain around 5% max. Normally i can say it can last 1,5 days...
Using China Stable 7.3.3 With some battery usage tweaks..
Using CM13 I go all day without recharging from 7am to 7pm
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Same here on CM 13 battery is good, lasting 2 days.
saarxee said:
I ordered this device yesterday but I worried about battery life, in reviews spoken the battery life was bad.
I dont have the device yet.
In the future the battery life was improvement on system updates?
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MI5 is one of the crazy device ever! Once you receive the phone you will be keep busy with experiment. Some people will tell battery life is outstanding and some like me will say battery life is poor.
My impression about MI5 is, usually after buying a phone we try to use it hassle free. But MI5 will create lots of confusion and make you trend to experiment lots of things until you get the perfection.
Currently the global ROM is most worst ever ROM and it will make you frustrated. Some people will tell China ROM is better but eventually until unless you are Chinese, you will never like chinese things!
Just now flashed CM13 and looks impressive!
The way you charge helps with endurance as well
Try getting into the habit of not letting your battery level drop below 15%. Charge it from there to 100%. Was a big item on xda some months ago about expanding the quality of a modern smartphones battery.

Any S10 battery life (SOT) stats yet?

Looked around the internet and all I could see is S10+ (4100mAh) battery life review.
Anyone with S10 (3100mAh) able to share your SOT battery life screenshots? :highfive:
We need a one week for the accurate stat. I will have 4.5-5h looks like
3.5 on my S10e exynos... This is bad
4,5h SOT / s10 before i use s9+ time is that same but i also has mate20pro over 3 month and mate20pro and this phone keep battery over 2 full day and im charging battery on 3rd day morning for 30 min to full
justmoto92 said:
Looked around the internet and all I could see is S10+ (4100mAh) battery life review.
Anyone with S10 (3100mAh) able to share your SOT battery life screenshots? :highfive:
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Battery currently at 23%. Wifi/4G and bluetooth always on.
About 3.5/4 hrs SOT on my S10e. Coming from a P20 Pro with 8-10hrs SOT (with just a 900mAh larger battery), this is really, really bad
My s10+ exynos
avg. 8.40hr sot
daemmon said:
About 3.5/4 hrs SOT on my S10e. Coming from a P20 Pro with 8-10hrs SOT (with just a 900mAh larger battery), this is really, really bad
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I am getting over 5 hours. Phone off the charger at 5:30am. Go all day. GPS. Music. Messages. Email. Little social media. Plugging back in at 10:00pm with 20% left.
Turn on adaptive battery in settings. Big difference. Remove Facebook app and use browser instead with a shortcut to home screen so it feels like an app.
Sorted.
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About 3.5/4 hrs SOT on my S10e. Coming from a P20 Pro with 8-10hrs SOT (with just a 900mAh larger battery), this is really, really bad
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I agree, i come from a Motorola Z2 Force and the S10e with exynos i get 3.5hrs SoT max. Im reading everywhere complains about the performance, battery and signal on the Exynos variant. I´m regreting in getting this phone. too bad in Mexico, they don´t have option to take it back. So im selling this phone.
S10 (Exynos) - SOT
I got 6hours & 10min of SOT on my Galaxy S10 (Exynos)
7 hours exynos UK soft Xeu
Anywhere between 5.5 & 6.5 SOT for me depending on usage.
S10 SD855 US unlocked version.
My Exynos S10 version is very similar.
Hey guys. i have the S10 Snapdragon. and my avg SOT is only 4-4.5hrs with 4g on during the day. the battery comes down quite quickly than i thought.. i thought it would be better than the exynos. but not really. my settings are- AOD off-only turns on when receive notifications through the AOD app. and also have the good locker to change animations. are these hogging battery? apart from these all regular usage. how are u getting 6-7 hrs??
3 hrs on s 10 exynos variant, very disappointed, feels like I got issues with my battery...
Using night mode ,aod off, 30 mins gaming, max 2 hrs video ...
Anyone with the same??
Matroid said:
My s10+ exynos
avg. 8.40hr sot
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How did you get the stats in the second screenshot?
algnerd said:
How did you get the stats in the second screenshot?
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Hi...with this apk. [emoji6] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm

Question Battery life not lasting a day....

So I bought the new S21 Ultra on the pre order the day it was announced. I was one of the lucky ones to get early so I could leave a review.
Coming from a Note 10+ that I had for a year and a half, I was really excited for the S21 Ultra, but was really disappointed with the battery life. I've had the phone for 5 days now and since the very beginning I've not been able to use the phone for the whole day on a single charge. It's been giving me screen on times comparable to my Note 10+ (4/5 hours) which is a much older device, but I thought maybe this was the way all S21 ultra's were behaving, just not very good battery life.
BUT, yesterday all the youtubers started to publish they're videos comparing batteries with older S devices and Iphones and their S21s were doing amazing, giving them screen on times of up to 13 hours!
I contacted support but they said this would be normal as my phone was still learning user patterns... but I'm not sure if that would affect it as bad as it is at the moment.
Also, I installed accubattery which is not 100% reliable but compared it to my note 10+ and it seems that battery health is even lower that my Note (95%)! Which I've had for a year and a half!!!
What do you guys think? Should I send the phone back? I'm really concerned that I just spent all this money on a new phone for it to be so bad with battery.
Try disabling all power management.
In Developer options>standby apps all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is running.
Google Play Services, Backup Transport and Framework are known hogs.
Disable all the bloatware, turn off auto sync for gmail, turn off all feedback.
You'll need to sort it out and optimize it. Took me months to get my 10+ sorted out. Fortunately it's running on Pie so I had more diagnostic options.
Returning is a thought as 5G may have been poorly implemented and another source of power drain. I think everything after the 10+ 4G both hardware and OS are train wrecks... I see very little incentive to "upgrade".
Maybe post screenshots that aren't below 5 kilobytes. Lol. I'm guessing you have an Exynos variant?
daribeiro said:
So I bought the new S21 Ultra on the pre order the day it was announced. I was one of the lucky ones to get early so I could leave a review.
Coming from a Note 10+ that I had for a year and a half, I was really excited for the S21 Ultra, but was really disappointed with the battery life. I've had the phone for 5 days now and since the very beginning I've not been able to use the phone for the whole day on a single charge. It's been giving me screen on times comparable to my Note 10+ (4/5 hours) which is a much older device, but I thought maybe this was the way all S21 ultra's were behaving, just not very good battery life.
BUT, yesterday all the youtubers started to publish they're videos comparing batteries with older S devices and Iphones and their S21s were doing amazing, giving them screen on times of up to 13 hours!
I contacted support but they said this would be normal as my phone was still learning user patterns... but I'm not sure if that would affect it as bad as it is at the moment.
Also, I installed accubattery which is not 100% reliable but compared it to my note 10+ and it seems that battery health is even lower that my Note (95%)! Which I've had for a year and a half!!!
What do you guys think? Should I send the phone back? I'm really concerned that I just spent all this money on a new phone for it to be so bad with battery.
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It's too early to judge the battery life, also accu battery app is not good at all, it's not accurate as your own phone's batterymeter.
Also, you need a week or so to make sure the phone get optimised according to your usage.
Does your phone have Exynos 2100 or Snapdragon 888?
Sharpshooterrr said:
Maybe post screenshots that aren't below 5 kilobytes. Lol. I'm guessing you have an Exynos variant?
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Sorry about that ahaha changed it now
nightoo said:
It's too early to judge the battery life, also accu battery app is not good at all, it's not accurate as your own phone's batterymeter.
Also, you need a week or so to make sure the phone get optimised according to your usage.
Does your phone have Exynos 2100 or Snapdragon 888?
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Mine has the Exynos 2100. I was just going off from videos like Mrwhosetheboss. He got 8 hours of screen on time. And he probably tested it when he got the phone no? And I'm litteraly getting half of that... and not even pushing my phone to the limit like he did on his video. I mainly use social media apps and YouTube.
I suggest doing a factory reset before you think about sending the phone back. Also, initially, be careful about what aps you install - try going with a minimal number of aps so you can get an idea of how the battery does when there are no aps that might pull from the battery - after a few days, add all of the aps you have been using (while avoiding any that might be a battery drain) and try for a few more days to see if you are seeing improved battery life. Good luck - hope it all works out for you.
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I suggest doing a factory reset before you think about sending the phone back. Also, initially, be careful about what aps you install - try going with a minimal number of aps so you can get an idea of how the battery does when there are no aps that might pull from the battery - after a few days, add all of the aps you have been using (while avoiding any that might be a battery drain) and try for a few more days to see if you are seeing improved battery life. Good luck - hope it all works out for you.
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Reloads -never- find the root cause and many times even if the problem is "fixed" it eventually returns.
Exceptions; old loads, software induced bootloops, viruses, and major firmware updates.
Expect issues with the 5G devices from poor hardware implementation. No fix for this.
I am on the first charge, but the battery life is so far pathetic. Omg! And everyone on youtube praise it... Down to 85% in 2 and a half hours and 50 minutes of SOT. Shame...
leoking3 said:
I am on the first charge, but the battery life is so far pathetic. Omg! And everyone on youtube praise it... Down to 85% in 2 and a half hours and 50 minutes of SOT. Shame...
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How much with screen off is it sucking down?
If more than 1% @ hr with AOD on it's probably Google and cloud crap running in the background.
You can optimize it to improve performance.
It's easier to do this with Pie though; Q and 11 take away critical tools and use scoped storage which wastes cpu cycles.
Get Karma Firewall and a package disabler like this one;
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Regardless of the model or OS version most carrier phones will need to be optimized for good battery life and optimum performance.
My 10+ was a hot running bandwidth hungry hog until I toned it down. Today it's hard to believe it's that same machine.
You are right, I agree with all you said. It is kinda sad though, as for instance, my ex Asus Zenfone 7 Pro had an absolutely mindblowing battery life, without any tweaks. I just used it. With all the hype around the S21 Ultra, I believed it again. The only Samsung I used with good battery life was S20 FE 5G.
Will give it a go with what you say though, thanks.
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Mine has the Exynos 2100. I was just going off from videos like Mrwhosetheboss. He got 8 hours of screen on time. And he probably tested it when he got the phone no? And I'm litteraly getting half of that... and not even pushing my phone to the limit like he did on his video. I mainly use social media apps and YouTube.
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Well, i believe what you are saying about battery life, but what i have seen so far is promising, i mean when S21 Ultra with Exynos 2100 beats iphone 11 Pro Max and 12 Pro Max, i guess that's a good sign!! But for sure, we use our phones in different way than each others because maybe you use it with 4G/5G enabled almost all the time while these tests are just using Wifi and maybe without any SIM card which means the battery consumption will be minimum at this part.
I have S20 Ultra with Snapdragon 865, i get like an average of 6 hours SoT and if S21 Ultra Exynos gives me the same SoT, i'll be happy!!
SOT is not everything...we travel, we move, you cant accept a phone that gives you 12 hours of standby in total. This is bs and useless, you cant rely on such a phone.
leoking3 said:
You are right, I agree with all you said. It is kinda sad though, as for instance, my ex Asus Zenfone 7 Pro had an absolutely mindblowing battery life, without any tweaks. I just used it. With all the hype around the S21 Ultra, I believed it again. The only Samsung I used with good battery life was S20 FE 5G.
Will give it a go with what you say though, thanks.
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My AT&T 10+ was not real bad (or good) the first few days. After enabling power management it went to hell.
Eventually I disabled all power management and one by one tracked down the hogs.
Because of dependencies simply disabling and/or turning off say Google Transport and Google Framework isn't enough, firewall blocking Google Play Services* then clearing data on all 3 periodically finally stopped this hog dead in its tracks. These will run in the background when the screen is off stealing power for nothing. Sometimes the Google apks are misreported as other Google apks presumably because of the interlinking dependencies.
Try using Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker.
Developer options>running apks/cache can also yield clues. With an unrooted phone there's some serious game playing to track this garbage down.
Anything app that's cloud or carrier is bad... lol.
Disable all feedback and syncing except for texting; manually sync gmail.
*needs to be unblocked occasionally for gmail to download and for Playstore (another apk you should disable/firewall block when not using).
Try disabling 5G if you are not using it, for some ppl SmartThings drain a lot of battery but you should see that app in log. Can't wait to get mine, also E2100 and coming from Note 8. Was rly looking to have a 2 day phone.
mankvl said:
Try disabling 5G if you are not using it, for some ppl SmartThings drain a lot of battery but you should see that app in log. Can't wait to get mine, also E2100 and coming from Note 8. Was rly looking to have a 2 day phone.
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That's a thought that's worth a try.
From what I've read even disabling 5G doesn't completely stop it's parasitic battery drain.
Maybe the latest generation chipsets are better but early 5G was poorly implemented giving a marginal speed increase on most phones of 20% when available.
Is this on the snapdragon or exynos variant?
leoking3 said:
I am on the first charge, but the battery life is so far pathetic. Omg! And everyone on youtube praise it... Down to 85% in 2 and a half hours and 50 minutes of SOT. Shame...
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So, 15% drain in 2.5 hours with nearly an hour of SOT. 15% is about 1/7 as a fraction. Now, 7 * 50 / 60 = 5.83 hours of SOT and 2.5 * 7 = 17.5 hours total. My Note 10+ (S20 Ultra on order!) doesn't do any better and NEVER did. If I use my phone for 6 hours a day (of SOT) it's pretty much done for.
I think people are being way too picky these days - just complaining to complain. If you really want I'm sure you can tune your phone so it gets 3 days on the battery. It'll suck and not do much of anything but, sure, you can do it. I've got a smartwatch and the same thing applies. I can tune it so it works for two weeks on the battery or I can actually use the thing and get 2-3 days. I choose 2-3 days and have stuff I want to use. I'd rather my phone be reactive and tell me when I've got emails, etc than to get super long battery life and basically have an inert brick in my pocket. I have a cellphone so I can use it for stuff. If that makes the battery not last long, oh well. If it can get 5-7 hours of screen time while also lasting through the day, great.
My 10+ draws roughly 1%@hr* with AOD on.
SOT draw varies between 9-12%@hr
Roughly 10%@hr watching vids on Samsung internet with surfing on Brave being the highest usage.
I consider it fairly optimized at this point.
*4300 mAh battery with little degradation.
No 5G running on Pie so not scoped storage either.
Figures are from a charge range of between roughly 40-65% as I rarely charged beyond 70% or discharge deeper than 30%.
Actual usage be more if I had started at 100% because of the power density difference through the power range ie 1% at 20 is far less watts than 1% at 100%.
A/V=watts. Less voltage means less overall mAh per % plus the additional losses due to voltage stepup power conversionas you dip towards 30% The closer to 100%, the higher the voltage with more available mAhs per battery% as well as less stepup voltage power converter losses.
A phone's wattage and V+'are constant so as the battery voltage decreases it draws more current ie mAhs.
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So, 15% drain in 2.5 hours with nearly an hour of SOT. 15% is about 1/7 as a fraction. Now, 7 * 50 / 60 = 5.83 hours of SOT and 2.5 * 7 = 17.5 hours total. My Note 10+ (S20 Ultra on order!) doesn't do any better and NEVER did. If I use my phone for 6 hours a day (of SOT) it's pretty much done for.
I think people are being way too picky these days - just complaining to complain. If you really want I'm sure you can tune your phone so it gets 3 days on the battery. It'll suck and not do much of anything but, sure, you can do it. I've got a smartwatch and the same thing applies. I can tune it so it works for two weeks on the battery or I can actually use the thing and get 2-3 days. I choose 2-3 days and have stuff I want to use. I'd rather my phone be reactive and tell me when I've got emails, etc than to get super long battery life and basically have an inert brick in my pocket. I have a cellphone so I can use it for stuff. If that makes the battery not last long, oh well. If it can get 5-7 hours of screen time while also lasting through the day, great.
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You are also right, but , when you used something that does both keeping you up to date, and having a brilliant battery life, then it becomes disappointing when you change it for one that doesnt.

How bad is the battery life?? And is there Volte for the Motorola US model?

The battery life is the only major fault that this phone seems to have according to reviews, especially for the price, which is close to stealing it imo.
For reference, I have a Redmi Note 6 Pro right now and it has the same processor / same resolution / 4gb ram / and with it's 4,000 mah battery, it can last a whole day on stand by before needing a recharge. If I browse the web on it, it might lose 8% or so after a hour - no gaming just web browsing.
I'm looking for a budget phone with decent specs that can do at least 6 hours of web browsing on a full charge and still have at least 1/3rd battery left, if this can do that then it looks like it will fit the bill.
About Volte - I have heard that the international versions do not have it, not sure about the T-Mobile variant, but that the US release does have it. Can anyone confirm?
Thanks in advance!

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