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A Brief Letter to Microsoft

Hi all. I've decided to try and make some future Microsoft product "my idea", so I've submitted the following letter to them via billg [at] microsoft [dit] com. I just wanted to know if you guys had any input.
Flaming is sure to happen, and while I won't argue with you, I will probably wish your firstborn child is used as a shot put.
Dear Microsoft,
Lately I’ve been bombarded with commercial after commercial showing random people (and their self perceptions) stating that Windows 7 was their idea for one reason or another. I’m not completely disgusted by these or anything, but it started my mind on one of those winding roads a character in a story might have to take to get home, or to the girl, or to the climax, or… well I guess that is kind of repetitious – but the point is, I started thinking about the variety of Microsoft’s operating systems and the history they’ve had – rather, our history together.
I’ve used just about everything Microsoft has created… I started my computer “education” by soldering a few broken parts back together on a Commodore 64 I found in a dump, and then learning BASIC on it (the BASIC on the Commodore 64 was a variant created and licensed by Microsoft). Right now, I’m typing this in Microsoft Word, on a laptop that has Microsoft Windows Vista, being distracted by a cellular phone that runs Microsoft Windows Phone 6.5.
That was a mouthful when I read it aloud.
But the reason for this letter is not so much a history lesson, but a worry of what is to come. It seems the goal over there the past few years is some cross between being different and being more like Macintosh, or Google, or insert company name here, and I’m here to state that I don’t like the transformation the publicists and tech news sites are ranting and raving about.
A few examples?
- Most recently must be the attempt to remove the clipboard features from my phone. I say “attempt”, because I am willing to bet that will be brought back, either by you or some developers out there.
- Office 2007’s menu structure looks like someone tried to “make it better” and ruined it.
- Windows Vista and Windows 7 both look like some kind of cross-dressing Microsoft product who was “supposed to be a Mac”.
What happens when you become so close to the competition that nobody can tell you apart? Developers and IT teams may not like parts of Windows, but they are able adjust most of what they don’t like to work for them. If this path continues, and all of the contenders out there do the exact same thing, you’re really shooting yourselves in the collective foot by taking away your uniqueness.
I guess what I’m really trying to say is “different” does not equal “better”. Get back to your roots and make something that your current audience will buy. Put them above the “new customers” you’re trying to reach. It’s the same error that many companies make nowadays – neglecting the long time customers for some new ones. You end up losing great customers that way.
See, I am a man. There’s an expression stating that men marry women expecting them to be the same, and women marry men expecting that they’ll change. I feel like Microsoft is giving in to the women out there – the ones who complain about it being too hard to use or not pretty enough – and we have enough of that already. I’m not trying to hate on women out there, but maybe the movie Team America explained it best… something about assholes, dicks, and ******* (I won’t go into it, but watch the movie if you need an explanation). What we need is for Microsoft to be a **** again.
Good luck and happy creating,
(Name Removed)
P.S. This email was sent using Microsoft Outlook.
Thanks in advance for any feedback,
Drunk

oooh nice
so did they reply back and what did the email say?
anyway nice letter

no replies yet, but I just sent it last night.

Mad props for Team America reference =P

the whole my idea is just a commercial not a real deal imho
http://gizmodo.com/5477384/windows-7-was-my-idea-but-to-be-fair-i-dont-know-what-im-talking-about

I don't doubt that it is just a big marketing gimick, but I wanted to explain that it looks like they are listening to people's ideas - just the wrong ones.

I'm waiting for them to show the ads on TV which make the claim that W7 has fewer clicks so I can report it to the ASA.
Starting a program like solitaire with the mouse is either the same number (if you don't mind a 2 second wait) or one more click than XP/Vista.
As for getting to the network card properties that's a heck of a lot more clicks than Vista or XP.
W7 has some very well thought out features, but unfortunately it's got more that just aren't.
I hate MS for putting me in a position where I have to say I prefer Vista! Damn them! Damn them to Hades!
WM7 looks awful, and the restrictions they're putting on it make no user or business sense.
Office 2007 is appauling, what were they thinking? Why make an application which users have to refer to google in order to complete simple common tasks?

Don't expect a reply, Drunk, at least something that isn't just generically polite and thanking you for your thoughtful input.
You blended good points that resonate with much of their shrinking user base, made up partly by people who have no idea they're running Microsoft and also in part by people who are obsessed with modifying them, with that bit on genitals. They're not interested in us anymore, nor would they want to add a lot of attention to your letter by giving you something from them to paste on and spread around. They want to intercept people from buying the other phones with no regard to who's already buying their own phones, and you can't really blame them considering how fast they're still falling (down 4% last quarter) toward obscurity.
Just to offer myself as an example of others reading what you just posted and what may be on their own minds, considering I made two websites about the damn thing, I'd say I was a bonafide WinMo fanatic, one of the last expected to say adios, but I just did, a Nexus One, and not only will I continue to love and go nuts with it I will attempt to take others with me. It's brewing right here on XDA, the place you'd think would be the haven mainly for people who like to do what can mostly only be done exclusively with WinMo phones.
Actually I read this by mistake, forgot to get rid of all my WinMo rss feeds on Google Reader to which my phone's synced. Good read though, glad you posted it. So thanks.
But no matter how much rabble you rouse here nor what signs you wave in front of their Seattle office you won't stop this train, the general direction of which they've made it clear that they are taking with WP7 being mostly the opposite of what a lot of us want. They can't please everyone and they'd rather please would-otherwise-be customers of their competitors even at the expense of estranging themselves from part of their existing customers. On the bright side, in addition to there being other options (specifically the one I took), they claim they'll keep supporting existing versions of WinMo for at least a while, though not forever on new devices I don't think which will have unique hardware that if I heard correctly won't even have removable storage, not to mention any support for decentralized application distribution. You don't like the sound of what's coming but what's coming is in their opinion good for business and I suppose mine too. When you're already failing at this rate in such a critical time of penetrating a huge market with enormous potential that will be realized further and further every day, it's hard to come up with a dumb idea on how to do things differently. Not to mention I've seen quite a few extremists shrug off each new bit of bad news saying Whatever I'll still try it, and once they do, then Microsoft has got them for at least a long enough period of time to figure out how to keep them hooked while they intercept little bits of business from the others. Right now they're handing business away. It's a joke.
Making sure the likes of you and others on sites like XDA remain happy customers as they implement these drastic changes to their mobile operations is not high up on their to do list.
Just sayin'.
Doug

Can't say I don't agree with you on most of that. I honestly don't expect much of a reply... at most a blanket letter or something like that. I've also been working my way to other vendors. I've got some android variant on my TP2 now and Ubuntu on my laptop (both still dual boots, but it's a step that direction). I just didn't want it all to happen without my 2 cents' worth being thrown at them.
Thanks for stopping by.

I hear you man, I'm all about ranting. This and this in particular. Also this.
Take a look at that and mobilitydigest.com (basically the same with a less weird domain), you'd make a great writer. Perfect style, perfect background (impressive by the way), perfect fire in your belly. We can't yet offer you money but what we can give you is an audience. Let me know.

"but I wanted to explain that it looks like they are listening to people's ideas - just the wrong ones."
yeah with the whole win phone 7 seeming like being a copy of the features of org iphone sure sounds like they are getting bad advice

[Q] Hello, I look forward to developing with you.

Hello, I am new to this forum so I suppose I will give a brief bio. I earned an Associates Degree in Computer Science from the Community College of the Air Force while serving on Active Duty as a "Computer Programmer" from 2004 to 2010. Most of my duties on the job involved website development, server side scripting and databases. I started learning network engineering and security in the past 3 or 4 years. I'm familiar with being a go-to for fixing an unrelated FUBAR project from a random language where you have to just google the syntax and methods until you get the results your boss asked for. I've also dabbled in .NET and so on.
Anyway, it is safe to say I know enough to be dangerous or better with everything from legacy assembly code to the trends of today while I have no clear specialty of expertise at this point. I am going to use the Post 9/11 Montgomery GI Bill to go back to college. I should know what I want to do by now but it is a unique opportunity where I may as well do any one thing as another. I like to avoid personal conversations and keep it about the development on forums. I got a nook color 1.01 and came here for some tips on rooting it, now here we are. I am interested to know what particular needs there may be for an intermediate developer that has no strict preference with where I begin just as long as I don't need very expensive new hardware, unless I wanted it anyway.
So, hello and nice to meet you. I look forward to finding a way to contribute.

Canary19 said:
Hello, I am new to this forum so I suppose I will give a brief bio. I earned an Associates Degree in Computer Science from the Community College of the Air Force while serving on Active Duty as a "Computer Programmer" from 2004 to 2010. Most of my duties on the job involved website development, server side scripting and databases. I started learning network engineering and security in the past 3 or 4 years. I'm familiar with being a go-to for fixing an unrelated FUBAR project from a random language where you have to just google the syntax and methods until you get the results your boss asked for. I've also dabbled in .NET and so on.
Anyway, it is safe to say I know enough to be dangerous or better with everything from legacy assembly code to the trends of today while I have no clear specialty of expertise at this point. I am going to use the Post 9/11 Montgomery GI Bill to go back to college. I should know what I want to do by now but it is a unique opportunity where I may as well do any one thing as another. I like to avoid personal conversations and keep it about the development on forums. I got a nook color 1.01 and came here for some tips on rooting it, now here we are. I am interested to know what particular needs there may be for an intermediate developer that has no strict preference with where I begin just as long as I don't need very expensive new hardware, unless I wanted it anyway.
So, hello and nice to meet you. I look forward to finding a way to contribute.
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You can start from building yourself a most powerful i7 (Ubuntu, or whatever your flavor) Linux box your $500 can buy. Generate the tool chain(s) for emulator/TI OMAP36xx SDK. Pull every piece of code published by TI for OMAP 36xx. Study all the free Android/Java/JS development books you can find, subscribe to all Android development forums and to GoogleGroups of the topics and irc channels.
Then, start building the 2.6.32, 2.6.35, 2.6.36 kernels for Android 3.x.
XDA Devs is not exactly the place where the Gurus of Android development explain and do tutelage for newbies, it's the place where they show their results. Read in my blog http://fineoils.blogspot.com about developments for NC and other tablets in condensed form, plus about stuff that is usually of no big interest here. Start from approx. Feb. 2010, this will take some time, lol.

Thank you for the outstanding advice. I have an Ubuntu machine on a first gen Phenom quad core which was starting to collect dust that would be perfect. When I get setup I need to find out what some good starter projects would be. I bet that someone here has a need that has been overlooked because the pros are busy on larger projects and I could take a stab at it. Any ideas?
aludal said:
You can start from building yourself a most powerful i7 (Ubuntu, or whatever your flavor) Linux box your $500 can buy. Generate the tool chain(s) for emulator/TI OMAP36xx SDK. Pull every piece of code published by TI for OMAP 36xx. Study all the free Android/Java/JS development books you can find, subscribe to all Android development forums and to GoogleGroups of the topics and irc channels.
Then, start building the 2.6.32, 2.6.35, 2.6.36 kernels for Android 3.x.
XDA Devs is not exactly the place where the Gurus of Android development explain and do tutelage for newbies, it's the place where they show their results. Read in my blog Can't Quote Links Yet about developments for NC and other tablets in condensed form, plus about stuff that is usually of no big interest here. Start from approx. Feb. 2010, this will take some time, lol.
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Welcome! I'm new to Android, so I can't help with anything too deep just yet (used linux exclusively for 7-8 years, so I'm catching on lol), but I can give you a list of a few common issues that people are having that I haven't really seen solved yet.
1. Touchscreen bugs out sometimes, requiring a quick trip to standby and back to fix. Happens to me regardless if I'm OCed or not.
2. System seems to randomly shut off and/or reboot for many. Has happened to me a handful of times, almost always when doing something cpu intensive, like launching Winamp or opening too many DolphinHD tabs.
3. Wifi for many people seems really flaky. Mine works fine 99% of the time.
4. Youtube doesn't like when you log in, requires a cache wipe to relaunch.
5. Screen sensitivity gets weird near the edges. There is an adb method to force a blind recalibration, but seems to have widely varying results.
6. Pull up menus on many apps ends up with white on white text making it unreadable.
I have no idea if any of those are relevant to you or if anyone else is already working on them or not. Hell, some might already be fixed in Froyo or even Eclair. Those are just a few things I see many posts about. I should mention that I'm on 1.0.1 rooted with no other tweaks. I also have a horrid case of strep throat and have been quarantined in my room alone on heavy meds for a few days, so I could be way off or babbling. Anyways, welcome to the forums and sorry for typing so much. I know I'm not nearly the novelist that that blog pimpin dude is. ;P

This is all good information and I appreciate the reply. I hope you get well soon. Strep throat and strep meds are no joke and you are extremely lucid all things considered, so don't worry one bit about that. You are running the same system that I have so please feel free to keep in touch with me about any issues, and I will let you know if I find a fix.
If you have some spare time I'd like to ask you some questions about using Linux for an exclusive PC; I keep juggling it with Windows rather than taking the time to find a fix for common petty problems like running Netflix. Right now my lazy fix for that is virtualboxing Windows.
Thanks again and feel better!
miemens said:
Welcome! I'm new to Android, so I can't help with anything too deep just yet (used linux exclusively for 7-8 years, so I'm catching on lol), but I can give you a list of a few common issues that people are having that I haven't really seen solved yet.
1. Touchscreen bugs out sometimes, requiring a quick trip to standby and back to fix. Happens to me regardless if I'm OCed or not.
2. System seems to randomly shut off and/or reboot for many. Has happened to me a handful of times, almost always when doing something cpu intensive, like launching Winamp or opening too many DolphinHD tabs.
3. Wifi for many people seems really flaky. Mine works fine 99% of the time.
4. Youtube doesn't like when you log in, requires a cache wipe to relaunch.
5. Screen sensitivity gets weird near the edges. There is an adb method to force a blind recalibration, but seems to have widely varying results.
6. Pull up menus on many apps ends up with white on white text making it unreadable.
I have no idea if any of those are relevant to you or if anyone else is already working on them or not. Hell, some might already be fixed in Froyo or even Eclair. Those are just a few things I see many posts about. I should mention that I'm on 1.0.1 rooted with no other tweaks. I also have a horrid case of strep throat and have been quarantined in my room alone on heavy meds for a few days, so I could be way off or babbling. Anyways, welcome to the forums and sorry for typing so much. I know I'm not nearly the novelist that that blog pimpin dude is. ;P
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[Q] Self taught or not?

Just wondering how all you experienced developers on here started out. I know you have probably been asked many times before but I am genuinely interested.
I am by no means any sort of developer. I first came to this site about two years ago when I first learned of rooting. Prior to that I had no knowledge whatsoever of developing or programming.
However I cant keep off here. Is it something that can be self taught. I would really love to delve into this so that I can start to have a little input into what goes on here and even if its just testing at least I could maybe be of help to someone. I have picked up little bits on how things work but my main question is where would be a good place to start self teaching??? It is becoming somewhat of an interest for me.
Any pointers would be hugely appreciated.
Thanks

If it's apps your interested in then AdamOutler has recently done a great video/article combo which would get you started. Check the portal / youtube channel....
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....

I suppose anything really just to get a basic understanding to start with. I would love eventually to be able to create/modify custom roms ect, but yeah thanks for the pointer.

hammoliam said:
I suppose anything really just to get a basic understanding to start with. I would love eventually to be able to create/modify custom roms ect, but yeah thanks for the pointer.
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Well for roms, check if your device is supported by Dsixdas kitchen, if so that's a great place to start tinkering...
If you want to really start making changes to things though your going to need to learn to code to some extent...
Read and search, read and search...
Good luck
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If you want a great beginning developer environment, wp7 is the easiest and most user friendly one to dive into.

I taught myself python with old boxed up books from the back rooms of my high school library. Didn't have a computer and did all my work on notebook paper. My first language. So, yeah, you can teach yourself anything.
I'm reading this right now.
http://www.amazon.com/Communications-Electronic-Warfare-Adrian-Graham/dp/0470688718
Has tons of practical applications.
Might get a kick out of what I'm reading right now:
Communications, Radar and Electronic Warfare
Frontiers in Antennas: Next Generation Design and Engineering
Advances in Cryptology 2011
Digital Forensics with Open Source Tools
Philosophy and Simulation: The Emergence of Synthetic Reason

boborone said:
I taught myself python with old boxed up books from the back rooms of my high school library. Didn't have a computer and did all my work on notebook paper. My first language. So, yeah, you can teach yourself anything.
I'm reading this right now.
http://www.amazon.com/Communications-Electronic-Warfare-Adrian-Graham/dp/0470688718
Has tons of practical applications.
Might get a kick out of what I'm reading right now:
Communications, Radar and Electronic Warfare
Frontiers in Antennas: Next Generation Design and Engineering
Advances in Cryptology 2011
Digital Forensics with Open Source Tools
Philosophy and Simulation: The Emergence of Synthetic Reason
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Well i'm done with the list and ready to take over local frequencies with my own propaganda. read, play good music on pirated radio
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Nowhere near an experienced developer, but with a couple of apps and a ROM WIP, the only thing that taught me was xda-tv

Learning to me is just when somebody puts a puzzle in front of you with no clues or guidelines. But you are surrounded by 50k people that you may ask questions (xda).
I just keep trying to solve the puzzle and if I really don't get something I just ask xda.
That's just how I learn. Its how I've always learn. Just dive into it and rip it apart. Think as logically as possible and listen to some cool dub step while doing so for extra learning points.
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SNote - kinda crappy

For a company that is so good at something's , this is a pretty bad app and desktop experience.
I am a heavy user of Gnote and Evernote.
And of late Synology notes..
You would think that since you have spent a zillion won on development of a phone with a great pen setup you would also spent a bit more time on making sure the note taking ability can be..
A. Be Synched .. (sync is on for notes on my phone and shows its synced to thier cloud via the bytes).
B. The file format can be read by your own desktop program. (The desktop version I have found is an April 2018).
While it will view/import a exported pdf..
it will give you an option to backup a *sdoc file but not import it.. (what's the point of this?)
So on Both of these above there is a fail at this point in my tests..
(due to miss-understanding by the reply posters to the original post I have edited to be clear about what has been tested)
While the phone shows that the notes have been sent to Samsung cloud..they are not linked back to the desktop app..
ie the desktop application not sync with the "said notes" after checking log in a few times..
As a suggestion (and this doesn't not have to be driven by the Korean side but could be by the international components within Samsung development).
Samsung development team, if you want to see a good note app in action buy yourself a Synology NAS and reverse engineer thier app and desktop program. ****..
As a suggestion to put forward a worthy idea..
"if your a lowly Samsung engineer, I have just given you a leg up the ladder.. crack this and you have made yourself a job..it would be then the best business tool ever. Especially for the Dex software development..'
Ok.. so we have on the desktop program the ability to import .SPD...snb...pdf
But not the *.sdoc export from phone.. transfered via network storage..But it will see the pdf version.
Really..
You can export the *.sdoc android format out but can't even import it into your own desktop app.
What's the point of that???
Seems the tail of the Samsung donkey is not talking to the head..
(reference to post 5 on this one,
as it seems that some have taken this as aimed at a nationality which has been explained,
it is not a jab at anyone but a jab at interdepartmental development for a better product offering..
as it happens this is not only a problem for Samsung but for a great many companies)
Rant over..[emoji41]

dgcruzing said:
For a company that is so good at something's , this is a pretty bad app and desktop experience.
I am a heavy user of Gnotes and Evernotes.
And of late Synology notes..
You would think that since you have spent a zillion won on development of a phone with a great pen setup you would also spent a bit more time on making sure the note taking ability can be..
A.Synched
B. The file format can be read by your own desktop program. (The version I have found is an April 2018).
Both of these above fail.
While the phone shows that the notes have been sent to Samsung cloud..they are not linked back to the desktop app..ie the desktop application not sync with the said notes after checking log in a few times..
Samsung development team, if you want to see a good note app in action buy yourself a Synology NAS and reverse engineer thier app and desktop program. ****..if your a lowly Samsung engineer, I have just given you a leg up the ladder.. crack this and you have made yourself a job..it would be then the best business tool every. Especially for the Dex software development..
Ok.. so we have on the desktop program the ability to import .SPD...snb...pdf
But not .sdoc
(It will see the pdf version)
Really..
You can export the android format out but can't even import it into your own desktop app???
Seems the tail of the Samsung donkey is not talking to the head..
Rant over..[emoji41]
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If you're going to talk down on Korean people you could at least use English correctly. You're using wrong words, misspelled words and cussing at them. There are alternatives. Write an email to the developer. 0 of 5 stars.

@rbiter said:
If you're going to talk down on Korean people you could at least use English correctly. You're using wrong words, misspelled words and cussing at them. There are alternatives. Write an email to the developer. 0 of 5 stars.
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Pull ya head in..
who said anything about nationality?
Samsung is a multi national with programmers across the globe if you haven't noticed..
It's a review of said program..
And as one of my roles in this life is as a teacher and trainer I am pretty sure that the mix of Grammer I have used comes from yea old book of 'English'..
Not a 'hey Google - give me American English' computer driven set.
The point is.. and if you had done any research..
is that if you did..
you will find that it's been a few years since the first Samsung notes came out and since then they have gone backwards with it..
Not "dust" I would say that, plenty out in WWW land on it..
I would have used it on my Samsung Nexus 10 and a few other Sammy devices but as there are others ie Evernote that do the job well.
As a reference I travelled and worked across 38 sites in China and used Evernote extensively over a 4 year period.. while I had the Samsung Nexus 10 with the first Snotes on it..it never cut the cake for a truely worthwhile app. -- yes..went from the Asus Transformer to the N10 as a travel tablet ..
With a but of luck, it will get better and get the attention it deserves if it is viewed as a business app.. which by all accounts the phone is being aimed at..
Think Dex... As the feeling of a new ecosystem coming . (Refer to video added in next post of mine as there is clear indication that Samsung is aiming Dex as a B2B situation with customised B2B branded apps)
Anyway..ya'all got anything to say about the program or you just spamming threads?
On that note..pardon the pun..
Evernote writing works fine..
Synology note writing is still a bit too "artbrush' as in thick pen lines so as a note taker in meetings not quite there..
And to carry the theme on.. the new Lenovo with a touch keypad and writing abilities is looking good.. this is where it would be cool to see a foldable screen that is touch sensitive be made..something like that could be coming in a cover and we could fold it out to write on with the pen and with Bluetooth connectivity..
Bring back the pen and hand writing!!!!!
Typed by two thumbs from Tapatalk so excuss any fat thumb mistakes and any English that is set to Ozi-Engkish

dgcruzing said:
Pull ya head in..
who said anything about nationality?
Samsung is a multi national with programmers across the globe if you haven't noticed..
It's a review of said program..
And as one of my roles in this life is as a teacher and trainer I am pretty sure that the mix of Grammer I have used comes from yea old book of 'English'..
Not a 'hey Google - give me American English' computer driven set.
The point is.. and if you had done any research..
is that if you did..
you will find that it's been a few years since the first Samsung notes came out and since then they have gone backwards with it..
Not "dust" I would say that, plenty out in WWW land on it..
(I would have used it on my Samsung Nexus 10 and a few other Sammy devices but as there are others ie Evernote that do the job well.)
With a but of luck, it will get better and get the attention it deserves if it is viewed as a business app.. which by all accounts the phone is being aimed at..
Think Dex... As the feeling of a new ecosystem is open us..
Anyway..ya'all got anything to say about the program or you just spamming threads?
On that note..pardon the pun..
Evernote writing works fine..
Synology note writing is still a bit too "artbrush' as in thick pen lines so as a note taker in meetings not quite there..
And to carry the theme on.. the new Lenovo with a touch keypad and writing abilities is looking good.. this is where it would be cool to see a foldable screen that is touch sensitive be made..something like that could be coming in a cover and we could fold it out to write on with the pen and with Bluetooth connectivity..
Bring back the pen and hand writing!!!!!
Typed by two thumbs from Tapatalk so excuss any fat thumb mistakes and any English that is set to Ozi-Engkish
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Umm yeah. Pull yo head out. And quit denying the racism or prejudice. It is blatant.

@rbiter said:
Umm yeah. Pull yo head out. And quit denying the racism or prejudice. It is blatant.
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Jezz you got a bee in ya bonnet..
Since you can't let it go..
Exactly where with in the first post is there any reference to a nationality or a belittlement of one?.. please quote it...
The reference to "won" is in reference to money spent in research..
You might want to consider....
"what and how" you read something is not how the writer has "framed it"
What's going on in your head has nothing to do with this conversation about whether the note program with in the N9 is..
1. Synching to the desktop programme..
(As pointed out..for me it's not..
do some testing and report back if it works for you)
The ability for you to export a file prefix of *.sdoc to be exported back into the desktop program.. works or doesn't work..
(As noted, you can't do it and the program itself will not see the very format..but will see the older versions and pdf versions..)
As noted..I was able to find an April 2018 version of the desktop program..
Thus..the conclusion is..
There is not a lot of development going into this..
Which in fact could be and then make this a useful tool set for sammy mobile users for not only the educational space but business.
But as you only want to play the man and not the topic..
I suggest you bow out or report the original post.. and or post something on topic..and not out of your 'what I think I am reading into it'

And to just be clear of where the post comes from..
I do use the phone for business and have been playing around with pdf signatures.
Thus the ability to be on the road and getting a client to sign using the phone would be a fantastic tool..
At the moment I have been testing getting a client to sign into the note app..(as generally for compliance type documentation there is 10+ signatures)..
The ability to to transfer a high resolution copy out of the Samsung app in its native format is not there..as there is nothing to read it with.
It is noted that it will transfer as a pdf but this is then a flattened document and not as high resolution and or transparent background that would be ideal for electronic signatures.
And since I alluded to the Dex eco system. Which I term as ecosystem as the little I have played with it, is limited in apps that work well within it (for now)..
Reference..
https://youtu.be/umvnRlj9yN8
For the avid reader that has posted crap about the original post being aimed at Koreans, please note that the above video seems to me to be a multi racial character..do note he uses a lot of "we at Samsung are developing"...
All good.. as said..with luck they see value in this app and allocation of resources into it.
Personally I would like them to fold it into something like a full word processing type situation.
And as noted, users of Synology NAS have a great suite of apps at thier finger tips to use with a beast like the N9 on the road..

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And to just be clear of where the post comes from..
I do use the phone for business and have been playing around with pdf signatures.
Thus the ability to be on the road and getting a client to sign using the phone would be a fantastic tool..
on of resources into it.
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Aside from your horribly racist comments about Koreans (for shame). If you want signatures have you tried the Write On PDF app by Samsung that's in the playstore?

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Aside from your horribly racist comments about Koreans (for shame). If you want signatures have you tried the Write On PDF app by Samsung that's in the playstore?
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Dam..you guys are coming out of the wood work..
Let's get this straight...
As a person that has lived and worked in Asia for 15+ years.. China/Indonesia/Philippines plus have worked in Silicon Valley with Italians/Mexicans/Indians..
You guys are so barking up the wrong tree..
And yes, I have spent plenty of time in Korean/Japanese/German/Dutch factories in China..
So let's set this record straight..
Rant is at Samsung the company not the country or people it comes from..
NEVER was...
Taken from the XDA rule book at top of said forum.
2.1 Language: XDA is a worldwide community. As a result, what may be OK to say in your part of the world, may not be OK elsewhere. Please don't direct profanity, sexually explicit language or other offensive content toward Members or their work. Conversely, while reading posts from other members, remember that the word you find offensive may not be offensive to the writer. Tolerance is a two-way street.
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From my first post..
1: Investment in Snotes..chances are decision was made on a WON budget.. nothing Racist about that..
let's just giggle and say NZ budget..
2. Engineers - if you think that comment was aimed at any nationality you are sooooo wrong..
as I actually pointed out that if a lower ranking engineer (lowly and or starting out).. was to reverse engineer the Synology apps/desktop note taking program..
and take a peek of the code and compare it to what Samsung has got out there are the moment..
(noting that Synology is a Tiawanese company).. there is a high chance that some good development could come of it..
3. Is it the tail and donkey head comment that has got you guys so uptight..
jezz.. let's say.. the hardware v software teams..lol..
Donkey head being hardware.. tail being software..
No where in those statements am I talking about any Koreans..jezzzzz
Maybe you guys have never truely worked in a multi national environment.. ???
I am not a fan boy of any company and yes, Samsung has screwed it's customers a number of times.. the partnership of Samsung and Google on the original Nexus 10 and the screens turning brown is classic example..(I still have one and while it still boots and runs no one owned up to that production fault..)
The same for batches of S6 screens and I have documented this in other threads..
If I compare those two examples to the HTC EVO which is still being used as a tv remote..hands down the Taiwanese company screen wins for longetivity
So really... The rant is about making something better and who ever makes I don't really care..
There is actually apps available that are cloudbased..
And thanks for your suggestion..I will look to that pdf one you out forward.
So keep the thread on track and put forward better solutions instead of imaginary racial over tones..
Once again.. the note pen works well with in the SNote app.. the ability to export that out as a high resolution copy .. as yet, I have not found a suitable way..
That's not to say that I have not tried...tested and got frustrated with such a simple want...
The *.sdoc format as far as my research has lead me..is a locked down format by Samsung..
If you haven't done your research..Google..
s notes conversion
And have a read..plenty on it out there in WWW land..

Thread closed until any participant can enlighten me on the objective of this thread.
For the record, I don't think the OP was racist in any way. Maybe we need to take a step back and stop assuming any sort of criticism is racism.

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Hey I am AM known as TrigrTech on social media I love android modding, Customization, Rooting, Custom ROMs etc etc I found about this site in 2018 and have been actively looking and today I made an account nice to meet y'all.

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Hey I am AM known as TrigrTech on social media I love android modding, Customization, Rooting, Custom ROMs etc etc I found about this site in 2018 and have been actively looking and today I made an account nice to meet y'all.
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Hi I'm just a guy on the internet. I am self taught, adhd person and I care about free speech and personal ownership/responsibility. I dont like tech monopolies selling the illusion of ownership at $1400 for a device you are just renting space on. Root or nothing when it comes to ownership. If you cant get to root get as close as you can. I recently made a full switch to Debian 10, Mac Google and Microsoft can EAD I'm not giving them another dime, unless it gives me the opportunity to stick it to them or wake someone up.
I have a few cloud servers running Debian in various locations and names always on and some are switched on when needed. I like Inexpensive hardware and I am all about bootstrapping anything possible.
My experiences are exploring:
Arduino
BTC
Raspberry Pi
RepRap
3D Printing
CNC -GRBL
Debian 10
Wordpress
LAMP
MAMP
WAMP
XMPP
Android
RedSn0w 2016-17ish iPhone 3g
SSH
SCP
VNC
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