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Hi,
I have a very weird problem with my Tytn II, which I bought little over a week now.
People I was talking to complained they didn't hear me very good, the sound appeared to drop. It occured to me that it was happening when I used the speaker (handsfree) of the phone.
I did some testing, and this is what happens:
I (with the Tytn II) call person X, and when I and person X are talking together, person X cannot hear me, the sound on his side simply fades to nothing, until 1 of us keeps quiet. The same happens when for example sound from my car is picked up by the phone, thus resulting in the device not being usable in the car, since there's always some noise. I however on my side keep hearing person X, it's person X that doesn't hear me.
It happens with 2 sim cards, everyone I call, did a hard reset, HTC support doesn't know the problem...
I'm puzzled. Can anyone suggest anything? Or is it faulty?
Thanks
no, mine does the same thing. I got it a few days ago and when i used speaker while driving, i could hear the other person perfect, but they cant seem to hear me. It feels like half duplex. i hope this is fixable
Damn, it seems widespread then...?
Anyone who can test it?
maybe it has to do with whatever noise cancelling algorithm is in effect is mucking everything up
ziddey said:
maybe it has to do with whatever noise cancelling algorithm is in effect is mucking everything up
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Meaning that every single device would have this, and thus mine not being faulty?
I had the same problem but remembered that there was an automatic sound function which turns down the volume when talking is too hard and turns it up when to soft. Its called microphone agc and you can find it under system configuration. Now that it's turned off my dutch htc tytn II works fine in handsfree mode. Hoop this helps you also
downnootje said:
I had the same problem but remembered that there was an automatic sound function which turns down the volume when talking is too hard and turns it up when to soft. Its called microphone agc and you can find it under system configuration. Now that it's turned off my dutch htc tytn II works fine in handsfree mode. Hoop this helps you also
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It's already turned off :-( .
However, I just called with HTC, and they said it's because of the mic and the speaker being too close to each other, and thus it compensates.
They say every model has it however, they did a test today and the result was that it was a feature, not a bug...
Anyone here who does not have it on his device?
I have this problem all the time, both on speaker and just using the phone to my ear as normal.
People complain I am very quiet or that the sound is choppy and I sound like a robot
I used to have this problem on the O2 XDA IIs a few years ago.
Anyone else have it too? I'd like to know asap if this device is faulty, or if it's normal?
Sometimes, it seems that when I'm holding it to my ear, the sound seem to drop on the other side too...
I have exactly the same problem. People have trouble hearing me with loudspeaker switched on. Without speaker they can hear me perfectly.
I have the same problem too. Just try to disable the Microphone AGC thing and it fixes the problem. Thanks downnootje.
I have teh same problem , but I tried something and it is improved the Operation , try to minimize the Speaker volume to the minimum level and then it improes a little and it works for me ; not all the time but that is what we can do at the moment
I'm convinced now that it's a mojor problem.
Mine even got worse: since yesterday, it's happening without handsfree too, people can't almost hear me when I just hold it to my ear...
Is this a phone still, or can't it be used as such?
try enableing Microphone AGC thing, restart phone, and disable it
Me too. Juz got my set 2 days back. The other party hears my voice intermittently chop-off...
I have faced the similar problem on a particular China-made TV phone too. Tested two other units of the same model still the same. It seems to me the phone design issue, as after I changed to another model of China-made TV phone, the problem solved.
Sigh! Already got this expensive phone, think have to bear with this feature then if it is really cannot be resolved by new ROM.
same problem
i have the same problem...with my 8525 when I was on the train or in a similar noisy situation i never had any trouble with people hearing me on the other end...with the tilt i can't even carry on a conversation on the train...i called tech support and they told me to swap it out for a new one.
ziploker said:
try enableing Microphone AGC thing, restart phone, and disable it
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I've tried that and it doesn't help! Quite sad about it. I need to use speaker handsfree especially during driving.... Don't really like to hook-up the headset or BT headset... too messy for wired headset and too tedius (charging) for BT headset...
Now that I know its half duplex it works pretty well in the car - I just wait for the other person to stop talking
Surur
I will be sending mine to HTC for a planned hardware fix as they agreed there is a defect that affects all kaiser and tilts, but NOT the MDA VARIO III. this is a known issue and is hardware related. Good news for those who havent purchased one yet. I will sell mine on ebay if they dont asign me a RA soon. I rather have the MDA VARIO III as it has 2 cams.
(doesnt your HTC TYTN2 has 2 camera's?)
Same problem here. Hope for a sollution soon!
Will call HTC too soon, so theyll have more complaints about this defect.
During calls there comes a moment that people are complaining that they cannot hear me. When i move the jog dial upwards (hence increasing volume) they say that they can hear me ok. I have not experienced this using the bluetooth headset. Maybe a hardware problem??
By the way i used 5 different radios and upgraded also to 6.1.
Anyone experiencing this?
Any solution?
Thanks
same problem and i didnt find any solution ! But my phone came back from the HTC support for another problem, I will check it...
i had same problem was faulty phone so i got it swapped
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i had same problem was faulty phone so i got it swapped
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did you send it for this reason?
well my mic was buggered
people would say one min they can here me next they cant
and it would like fade in and out
orange where usless and said they wanted to test it but in the end i went back told them i wanted a new one
and since then i have had no problems
If you can't hear me it means I'm in Parentheses. ))
i guess i have to sent it back then, s*** i have to to revert to original rom now.
anyone else with the problem?
ok you say it is a hardware problem. I did the following: i was speaking continuously for 2 minutes on the mic and i was recording it. When i tried to listen to the recording everything seemed to work excellent. So i guess is not a mic - hardware problem. S*** i am going crazy........
Did you flash with the appropriate radio?
i've had the same problem with my speaker phone; i can hear the calling party; but they cannot hear me; it does not happen all the time; but more often than not (more than 50% of the time).
A person in another forum suggested turning the volume down to half when using the speaker phone so it will work (though it is difficult to hear the calling party when volume is that low).
I know this is unrelated to blue tooth issue; but there seems to be some sort of audio glitch that is similar in both the blue tooth and speaker phone so one has to wonder if there is some type of related root cause to both problems???
hello77 said:
i've had the same problem with my speaker phone; i can hear the calling party; but they cannot hear me; it does not happen all the time; but more often than not (more than 50% of the time).
A person in another forum suggested turning the volume down to half when using the speaker phone so it will work (though it is difficult to hear the calling party when volume is that low).
I know this is unrelated to blue tooth issue; but there seems to be some sort of audio glitch that is similar in both the blue tooth and speaker phone so one has to wonder if there is some type of related root cause to both problems???
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when i use bt the problem disappears so i think it has to do with the functionality of the mic?
Well finally after 1.5 month i got back my phone from ACE HELLAS. The problem remains the same although i was told that the microphone and earphone were replaced by new ones. If they are telling the truth and they did change it it means that we are facing a kind of software problem.........
I had the problem, too. I tried dozends of radio roms but problems continued.
After 5 months of trying I repace my VPA Compact V (aka v1615) and now the problem has dissapeared...
So it seems to me that it is a hardware problem of one production run.
Melkor
I have had a lot of problems using my speaker phone on the tytnii. To summarize, most of the time when i use the speaker phone, the person i am calling cannot hear me though i can hear them. This does not happen all the time; but more often than not (more than 50%).
Now here's where it gets strange. A person in another forum said to try initiating a call without being on speaker and begin speaker after both of you have talked. I tried this and it seems so far that my speaker is working better using this approach though i dont no why.
I am far from saying that this resolves my problem; but do find it interesting. I just started doing this so cant say for sure if it always will cause the speaker to work; but so far it seems to be working though i still have gotten complaints that i sound like im in a tunnel or something; but atleast they can hear me.
I guess the real test will come when i am in my diesel truck as there is a lot of background noise. At any rate, just some information i'd like to share as i would like to get some feed back from other users who might also like to try this to see if the results are reproducible. Hopefully, next update will resolve the speaker phone issue as this is a work around at best; but who knows.
Same
I too share the same problem. Although i have an Tilt. Same diff i suppose. I can agree with your method, and same complaints when it does work. I too have not found an exact answer to this problem.
I tried to call for the 1st time today.
When I call to someone, or vice versa, other party can hear me, while I hear nothing at all via ordinary phone speaker (on the front side). Volume changes does nothing.
If I tap "Speaker" - I can hear other party via another speaker (on the rear side of the device).
If I plug the headset in - agian, it works normally as supposed.
Is my phone speaker broken or do I miss something? I played with every settings I could find, but nothing helps...
Did anyone have the same problem?
Acer Liquid, 1.6 orginal rom. I didn't have a chance to reinstall rom yet, so it should be just fine. I did install a few apps from Market.
I had exactly the same problem.
I was using ROM LCR 1.6.
I have just reflashed my phone and still the same problem, I think it is broken.
I've bought my Acer Liquid two months ago!
sounds like a hardware problem with the phone speakers. Normal calls should be heard through the speakers above the screen. speakerphone/ringtones/media sounds go through back speakers.
Had the same issue- returned it for another one.
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I had a same problem. My phone speaker does not work.
Hi guys,
Just to let you know. I contacted Acer and they immediately told me that I need to send the phone to them for repair. (maybe it's a know issue).
I did that. 3 weeks after got the phone back. It works fine now.
On the paper I got with the phone they said that the part changed is "reciever"
So for those who have the problem - send your phone back.
andrey_zi said:
I tried to call for the 1st time today.
When I call to someone, or vice versa, other party can hear me, while I hear nothing at all via ordinary phone speaker (on the front side). Volume changes does nothing.
If I tap "Speaker" - I can hear other party via another speaker (on the rear side of the device).
If I plug the headset in - agian, it works normally as supposed.
Is my phone speaker broken or do I miss something? I played with every settings I could find, but nothing helps...
Did anyone have the same problem?
Acer Liquid, 1.6 orginal rom. I didn't have a chance to reinstall rom yet, so it should be just fine. I did install a few apps from Market.
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I encountered this problem today....
I thought it was a hardware problem...
A Full Wipe cleared the issue..
You should try a full wipe before conclude that its a hardware issue...
I had this problem as well on my Acer Liquid E. Mine was a hardware issue, as when i would grip it tightly or press on the earpiece I would get intermittent sound but there was static. I did 4 wipes and nothing solved it.
michael2420 said:
I had this problem as well on my Acer Liquid E. Mine was a hardware issue, as when i would grip it tightly or press on the earpiece I would get intermittent sound but there was static. I did 4 wipes and nothing solved it.
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Sry for that! Just don't grip it tight
We all know its a very fragile device...
Acer should have engraved "HANDLE WITH CARE" on both side of the device.
I have fixed the hear speaker
Hi all! I had this problem with my Acer Liquid, I had no warranty so I tried to solve the problem and succeeded. It's not software or configuration, it's a broker hear speaker!
Symptom: You can hear the person on the other end with Loud Speaker, Bluetooth Headset and Hear Phones but you can't hear via the Hear Speaker.
Problem: Broken Hear Speaker.
His problem is reported all over the Internet but with no solution beside sending to Acer.
I risked and fixed it myself by dissembling my Liquid and find a compatible hear speaker.
Big Problem: No spares parts anywhere for this device.
Solution: Blind search for a spare hear speaker by looking at pictures and compare with broken one.
Big Solution: This speaker is also used on a series of iPaq (HP) PDA's and i found a website that sells them quite cheap.
I found two compatible models of speaker and i leave the links here.
I bought these two:
www*repairhppda*com/front-speaker-for-hp-ipaq-voice-messenger-p-1822.html
www*repairhppda*com/internal-speaker-for-ipaq-910-912-914-910c-912c-914c-p-1235.html
!! I can't post links so remove the * and put dots on the links.
I've only used one so can't say which i used because they are very similar, but one of them works for sure the other i can't guaranty but I'm almost sure it also works.
(it seems like it could fit but don't know and can't confirm... did not buy this one)
I disassembled my Acer Liquid, replaced the hear speaker, and Bang! It' Works!
Notes: Be careful when disassembling your liquid you could easily break something, take steps slowly and carefully.
If you need any hint, speak here, i'll try to answer as soon as possible.
Cheers!
I am having another problem. The people from the other side hardly hear what I say, they say my phone is too noisy, especially at the beginning of the call. The quality is ok for me, I can hear everything very clearly.
I don't know if it is a hardware problem or just (hopefully) a problem with the baseband or something like that.
I have the same problem.
I tried to flash a different baseband and apparently it started working ok but after a while the noise was back again.
The strange thing is that the noise seems to pop up only when I call from certain places and not from others.
tango13 said:
I have the same problem.
I tried to flash a different baseband and apparently it started working ok but after a while the noise was back again.
The strange thing is that the noise seems to pop up only when I call from certain places and not from others.
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Yes, it's a very annoying problem. Since the other party cannot hear me clearly, now I have to go back to my HTC Touch HD until I found a solution for this.
I bought this Acer Liquid as a 2nd hand one without invoice, so there is no way to return to Acer for a repair service.
Yesterday I received a call and I couln't ear anything, then I tried to callback (thinking it was a network problem) and I still couldn't ear anything. I used the loudspeaker and it was working, also plugged my headphones and I could ear the other party.
I then called Acer complaining, they told me the phone needed to be repaired (the quickness on the response made me think this is somehow usual), that I should put it in a box with the RMA code written on it and that they would send me DHL to pick it up. Today DHL picked the phone, so far everything as been dealt really fast and I can't anyhow complain on Acer support, lets just see how long it will take till I get my phone back.
Hi Forum,
I orginally posted this topic on the man Q and A board but it was buried quickly with no response. Perhaps this is a better venue to ask.
My phone is roughly a year old, and today I ran into a weird and potentially phone killing problem
I received a few phone calls from my girlfriend today, the ringer rang loud and clear, but I heard no sound from my ear piece. After a few "Hello?"s, I hung up thinking it was a bad connection. Upon seeing my girlfriend afterwards, she said she heard me on my end. So I got her to call me again and I tried to use speaker phone, and I could hear her fine.
Doing some research on google, I only ran across one other person who had this problem, and upon seeing this, I tested my music player, (as theirs didn't work), and mine doesn't work either
This other person said the problem resolved itself a day later.
In short, my ear piece has no sound during a phone call and my media sound doesn't work (though it works w/ headphones.) My notification sounds and speaker phone DO work, as well as my alarms
Do the notification and speaker phone speakers come from a different place than media and ear piece speakers?
Do I have a software issue? I tried the "push the speaker down" solution but to no avail
Should I wait like the other person?
Any suggestions?
Thanks forum!
Codazzle said:
Hi Forum,
I orginally posted this topic on the man Q and A board but it was buried quickly with no response. Perhaps this is a better venue to ask.
My phone is roughly a year old, and today I ran into a weird and potentially phone killing problem
I received a few phone calls from my girlfriend today, the ringer rang loud and clear, but I heard no sound from my ear piece. After a few "Hello?"s, I hung up thinking it was a bad connection. Upon seeing my girlfriend afterwards, she said she heard me on my end. So I got her to call me again and I tried to use speaker phone, and I could hear her fine.
Doing some research on google, I only ran across one other person who had this problem, and upon seeing this, I tested my music player, (as theirs didn't work), and mine doesn't work either
This other person said the problem resolved itself a day later.
In short, my ear piece has no sound during a phone call and my media sound doesn't work (though it works w/ headphones.) My notification sounds and speaker phone DO work, as well as my alarms
Do the notification and speaker phone speakers come from a different place than media and ear piece speakers?
Do I have a software issue? I tried the "push the speaker down" solution but to no avail
Should I wait like the other person?
Any suggestions?
Thanks forum!
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I had nearly the same issue, except mine got to the point where the speaker phone didn't work either. Music played fine, phone calls stopped working. I went through a lengthy process of accidently deleting everything I had on my phone, which lead me to buy a USB Jig, install the stock ROM and it worked perfectly. I would suggest trying this before you try and physical fixes on your phone.
Thanks for the suggestion SGT_Watkins
I am an absolute noob when it comes to this stuff. So it took me a while to even figure out what you were saying
BUT, after a whole night of reading and flashing it WAS FIXED!!!
I am quite tempted to phone Samsung and give them a piece of my mind after they told me some hardware was defective even though they clearly weren't listening to what the problem was
Thank you again!
How did you solve this?
I have the EXACT same problem on my Galaxy Nexus. I've wiped it, tried different ROMs, kernels... Nothing solves it! It's like there's a persistent software problem that survives flashing and even battery pulls.
My phone had this same issue not long ago. It was after I had used some headphones for about an hour. I work in a paper converting factory, so I assume some dust was packed in the headphone jack and made the phone think something was plugged into it. I turned my phone upside down and used a paper clip to scrape it all out (compressed air may have been safer). After a few tries, all sounds were working properly again.
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