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This device is still on the September security patch which was rolled out just before October ended. No signs of October security update yet. Is anyone else also getting annoyed at this situation?
I for one only purchased the device looking at the Android One tag and the 5000mah battery.
They have Android One and monthly security updates promise plastered all over their product page and yet are not bothered to even update an Android One device.
Isn't this Google's job to make sure Android One partners provide timely security updates?
Xiaomi gets a lot of flak here on XDA for not updating their devices to the latest OS but they are atleast providing timely security patches to their Android One devices. Motorola here is not bothered to even update their Android One device.
Can we get someone from the XDA team to do an article regarding this? That way more people will know the real state of affairs regarding this device before purchasing it.
I dont know whats wrong with oneplus with the monthly updates and security patches, but that was the most importat thing that i wanted on my new phone and i switched from samsung note 9. Generally im happy with the performance but without the updates i noticed that the battery life and a little lag comes after a while.
peace
Their is no monthly updates only Bi-Monthly (2 Months) but they're lacking a bit..
admirberisha99 said:
I dont know whats wrong with oneplus with the monthly updates and security patches, but that was the most importat thing that i wanted on my new phone and i switched from samsung note 9. Generally im happy with the performance but without the updates i noticed that the battery life and a little lag comes after a while.
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Beta gets them monthly... Dunno what you're talking about but they're one of the few that provides monthly security updates.
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Beta gets them monthly... Dunno what you're talking about but they're one of the few that provides monthly security updates.
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On the 6t im still on the January security patch.
1+ suckered you and me into purchasing this phone..
Its a good phone let down by software implementations for worldwide audfences not just India!
Hardware wise the only issues are the camera software(The grainy blurry images when zoomed in are unfortunate)
Why no true AOD.
1+ fanboys feel free to take a step back, digest, then provide a non fanboy response........
touche at the ready.........
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admirberisha99 said:
On the 6t im still on the January security patch.
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Not sure why
Because your on the beta... Obviously...
They have the option with the beta but the beta can introduce bugs down the road.
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Because your on the beta... Obviously...
They have the option with the beta but the beta can introduce bugs down the road.
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Nope im in the latest stable OS. https://www.oneplus.com/de/support/softwareupgrade/details?code=9 this one
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Because your on the beta... Obviously...
They have the option with the beta but the beta can introduce bugs down the road.
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And like I initially said, if you read, on beta...
I'm not entirely sure why people are bent out of shape over not getting monthly updates. I guess I'm missing something. For me the updates come when they come, and in the meantime I just use the device and never think about what security patch it's on.
But that's me.
Its says open beta 7 on your first screen ! (Please give a cookie to this guy)
Latest stable(9.0.12) is on janury security patch, stop drug man you are already on the latest beta, that's why you have more telemetry, more battery drain, less stability but you are on latest security patch... (omegalul)
PS : Stop to play with your phone If you do not know what you're doing with.
Omagad, poor xda...
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Its says open beta 7 on your first screen ! (Please give a cookie to this guy)
Latest stable(9.0.12) is on janury security patch, stop drug man you are already on the latest beta, that's why you have more telemetry, more battery drain, less stability but you are on latest security patch... (omegalul)
PS : Stop to play with your phone If you do not know what you're doing with.
Omagad, poor xda...
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Well original poster never said he was on stable. So that's why I said, if you want latest and are concerned, beta gives it. If you don't want to do that, stop complaining Imo. OnePlus still does better than majority of companies
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Well original poster never said he was on stable. So that's why I said, if you want latest and are concerned, beta gives it. If you don't want to do that, stop complaining Imo. OnePlus still does better than majority of companies
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Im talking about you (and your screenshot when you say not sure why) and not the original poster.
Beta gives it definitly with more telemetry, more battery drain and less stability, it's paradoxal for a homogeneous ROMs focused on security.
Actually, I bought all the smartphones of the brand and Oneplus are funny about the speed of deployment of security patches.
Essential, Nokia and Google are 15x faster to deploy an update on their terminals, it's not just a fanboy response, we're in the factual there.
So yes clearly Oneplus is at the top of the table and I never say otherwise however it is just correct for the deployment of updates, i'm sorry for Oneplus but how many smartphones to manage ?
Essential, Nokia and Google are more responsive, end of the story.
Did everyone forget that the entire staff took a few weeks off for religious holiday. The pipeline of updates doesn't just start dripping out the other end instantly.
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Im talking about you (and your screenshot when you say not sure why) and not the original poster.
Beta gives it definitly with more telemetry, more battery drain and less stability, it's paradoxal for a homogeneous ROMs focused on security.
Actually, I bought all the smartphones of the brand and Oneplus are funny about the speed of deployment of security patches.
Essential, Nokia and Google are 15x faster to deploy an update on their terminals, it's not just a fanboy response, we're in the factual there.
So yes clearly Oneplus is at the top of the table and I never say otherwise however it is just correct for the deployment of updates, i'm sorry for Oneplus but how many smartphones to manage ?
Essential, Nokia and Google are more responsive, end of the story.
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Never noticed any difference in stability or anything going stable to beta. Maybe you do, but I do not and have only had better results running beta VS stable. I have no extra telemetry VS stable so cut the crap with That please and thank it.
OnePlus providing updates for a lot longer these days than even Google is supplying for there phones. OnePlus 3,still getting pie and its 3 years old coming up. That's far longer than Google gives updates. Essential has one phone to take care so come on,don't go there,that's not fair to compare to, unless you know of more than one phone that essential builds that no one else seems to have purchased.... Google to OnePlus is similar in asking of devices to support especially considering size of Google as a whole.
I think it's very easy to criticize OnePlus when they're supporting MULTIPLE devices as much as they are. Look at companies like Samsung, LG, Google, Motorola, and others. Their update cycles are slower, less frequent, and don't last as long in the long-term. Yes, OnePlus has always been known as an enthusiast brand and was for us who like to tinker with their phones. But they're a company who need to make a profit, and they've really had to restructure as they grow to keep up with demand. They also release phones every 6 months, and I'm sure they've had to spend enormous resources to design the 7, while still supporting devices like the 3. No company is perfect, but they're far superior, in my eyes, at maintaining devices that can compete with other manufacturers, while also having to follow guidelines of other companies like T-Mobile and Google who require them to follow their rules in order to stay in business. As someone who works in Telecom, I see more issues from other companies than OnePlus. While it's important to voice our concerns on forums and towards the company, I think they deserve some credit for not venturing too far from their roots, despite their evolution as a company.
I agree that no company is perfect. But, monthly updates, at least for security patches are very important nowadays, especially since the exploits that are patched on the security fixes become known and thus leave people vulnerable.
For those complaining, you guys DO realize that we're on the better side of things when it comes to updates, right... ? Lmao
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The really sad part is if OnePlus did give monthly updates (or any manufacturer), these same people would be complaining that there are no new features, or nothing was updated just the security. Me, me, me, give, give, give, want, want, want. There was a time when XDA was fun, you learned things and there was always new development and it has changed over the years for various reasons. I have backed off because of all the *****ing and complaining. It's just a phone guys, nothing else, it's a hobby for me and nothing else. Can we stop with all the complaining?
I read through this thread and nearly couldnt help but laugh, People complaining because OP doesnt give them a snappy security patch, which is all in crazy anyhow.. I mean.. you act like some hacker is going to hack into your device and take your stuff within the next 5 mins or so...... I used to be a ONEPLUS hater, Then After LG and Company screwed me over, then my Carrier started selling the OP, I decided why not, lets give
it a try, and I must say I been very satisfied with it so far, everyone complaining, I wonder what you did on your old devices that didnt get patches but maybe a few times a year..
I dont get it. I personally think OP has gone above and beyond what nearly any other OEM would do. and your still not happy....... I hear more complaints about the OP then I do any other OEM,
and OP gives you a hell of alot more then any other OEM would do. you get a Flagship device for half of the price any other OEM flagship device would cost, and you still complain, not to mention you complain because
hardware isnt 100% perfect, The reason they can give you the device for half the cost of all other OEM flagship devices, because they learned to retard on some things, If you want a perfect 100% everything, and all hardware top shape, then get another device with all that and pay $1,200.00 + for it...........
Sorry just adding my 2 cents..........
This is the main reason I kinda stopped using XDA too.... Half the time it feels like Romper Room in here.
As we're seeing numerous bugs have plagued Android 12. The latest update is Samsung's 4th Final Release. What's your experience been and is it confirmed the update locks the bootloader on previously unlocked devices? I'm holding off on updating until some positive feedback is the norm.
Update to A12 with G998B/DS (Exynos) did not result in locking BL. But as BL is upgraded from 3 to 4, downgrade will not be possible. This is not a new phenomenon, this was always the case with BL-upgrades.
In existing thread there is already a lot of feedback/experience on A12 on the FW for exynos S21U. I see no need to also open same discussions in this new thread, unless it is specified to SD-versions.
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Update to A12 with G998B/DS (Exynos) did not result in locking BL. But as BL is upgraded from 3 to 4, downgrade will not be possible. This is not a new phenomenon, this was always the case with BL-upgrades.
In existing thread there is already a lot of feedback/experience on A12 on the FW for exynos S21U. I see no need to also open same discussions in this new thread, unless it is specified to SD-versions.
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No posts in this link discusses the A12 Update, changing CSC is the topic, maybe you're confusing it with a different thread. I'm more interested in hearing from user's with a clean, stable update, Snapdragon or Exynos.
The answer is very simple...A12 is a new OS compared A11. This means it comes with its fair share of bugs. I'm sure you'd remember it took at least 6 or 7 iterations of A11 to get the perfect rom. You should expect the same with A12. I'm expecting by March 2022, we should have a fairly stable A12 rom for the S21Ultra.
That may be the case but I don't remember any Android 11 update with this many glitches and it's not restricted to Samsung, other brands are suffering as well even Pixel. I've always updated my device's whenever a new version is available with no issues but not this time around. Seems every other thread on XDA is reporting problems with A12.
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That may be the case but I don't remember any Android 11 update with this many glitches and it's not restricted to Samsung, other brands are suffering as well even Pixel. I've always updated my device's whenever a new version is available with no issues but not this time around. Seems every other thread on XDA is reporting problems with A12.
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Actually, the android version we got in our S21U (A11) was considerable a stable version since the OS was released last September while S21 was out in Feb..so basically we had a more refined version of the OS...A12 is fairly new and hopefully by Feb/ March, the OS will become stable as well...this is the case with any OS..be it Android or iOS
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That may be the case but I don't remember any Android 11 update with this many glitches and it's not restricted to Samsung, other brands are suffering as well even Pixel. I've always updated my device's whenever a new version is available with no issues but not this time around. Seems every other thread on XDA is reporting problems with A12.
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I personally think A12 is a potato release.
Every OS has misfires. iOS had iOS 7 and iOS 11.
Android had Lollipop (v5) - absolute lemon of an update.
A12 doesn't seem as bad, but it's a Meh update. From what I've seen, it's built around cosmetic changes mainly with some minimal privacy features peppered in to make it sound more creditworthy than it is. Every single manufacturer is struggling with it, including Google. Maybe OneUI 4.1 will bring a more stable version. But who knows?
All I know is that there aren't enough architectural or performance benefits baked into A12 that justify going one whole number up from A11.
That's just my opinion. Others may feel differently. But I tried it and couldn't suffer it on my phone more than 2 weeks. So I "downgraded" to a faster, peppier A11 build after a gruelling fortnight of hoping, praying, charging and resetting the phone till I couldn't stand it anymore!
The S21 Ultra is best experienced on A11, as of today. Updates may change it for the better, but that's a 'maybe' and 'later' in the same sentence and I'd like to see my device at its best behavior today!
"Every single manufacturer is struggling with it, including Google"
Google blew chunks with this puppy. The blame lies mainly with Google but Samsung is culpable as well, no way should they have released it without in depth testing to sort out compatibilities. You'd think they would have figured it out long ago.
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"Every single manufacturer is struggling with it, including Google"
Google blew chunks with this puppy. The blame lies mainly with Google but Samsung is culpable as well, no way should they have released it without in depth testing to sort out compatibilities. You'd think they would have figured it out long ago.
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I think Samsung means well, all things considered. As you say, they could've spent more time fine tuning the A12 releases. But they probably succumbed to the temptation of being one of the first to the table with the new OS. They're getting hammered in almost all markets by the Chinese brands and Apple is eating into their market share too. Release decisions may have been influenced by marketing rather than development. Dunno. Just a guess.
I have to commend their commitment to timely updates. Nobody on the Android camp is as pro-active with with OS updates on as many devices as Sammy is currently. They've come a long way from their TouchWiz days and OneUI is currently my favorite android UX after OxygenOS was neutered by Oppo.
I genuinely think they're trying their best to work with the material they have. The material however (A12) may be the bottleneck here.
So I have a few questions that searching for answers has either been vague or given me old, outdated articles and answers if any at all. Coming here to see if maybe you guys can help bring some clarity.
I still have not received the November security patch. I'm using an Unlocked Pixel 5 with an AT&T sim. This is the first time I have not been able to get an OTA update on my phone when I saw it was released. I was using the 12 beta on my device but my wife hasn't gotten one either.
Pixel tips mentions the enhanced voice typing on my phone but I do not have it available to me. I am on the Gboard beta program and I briefly got it when it was in it's trial rounds and it works great but is no longer available. Is this a 6/6P exclusive?
Those are the two biggies right now. I know things like magic eraser and stuff are exclusive to the P6 (even though they work perfectly fine on other devices and other features have been tested on non tensor devices). I understand Google needing to incentivize an upgrade to the 6/6P but it's kind of frustrating when features that clearly work or have been tested on older devices are not made available/no longer available on their older devices that are able to run them. Maybe a feature drop in the future will address these issues but the two questions above I'd love some insight on.
Hi. I think I might be able to help. I also have the 5. I am not in the Beta program, however I believe you have to be off the beta program to receive security patches for this lot.
https://9to5google.com/2022/03/07/pixel-march-22-security-patch/#more-475705
The Enhanced typing _is_ something that is exclusive to the P6 because of the on board processing available via Tensor. That was the whole reason big G went with their own chip. The only reason why I know this is because I'm hard of hearing and I utilize the voice dictation all the time. On the 5 it's online, on the 6 it can be either online and or offline by my understanding.
Hope that helps.
I usually receive my updates around the 5th of the month. November 2022 was my last update. The phone was bought direct from Google unlocked. I use it on Consumer Cellular (AT&T). I've called google support and posted the issue on their community forum. Support said to factory reset but admitted they have no idea of what's going on. My post was locked in the community forum.
I saw on the XDA Pixel 5 forum that there was some issue with the releases but its not confirmed by Google.
I'm more concerned over security patches than bug fixes. My phone is working fine.
hi.
i bought my 5a, like you, from Google and unlocked.
i use it in Argentina.
i never received any communication about updates but i allways get my monthly update looking for it in:
config-system-system updates
try that way
right now i have all the updates, the last is January 5
I also am stuck on Nov 5 with a phone bought direct from Google. I am on Mint (T-Mobile MVNO).
Manually re-checking in system - system updates - check for updates reports that it is up to date.
miguelAr9 said:
hi.
i bought my 5a, like you, from Google and unlocked.
i use it in Argentina.
i never received any communication about updates but i allways get my monthly update looking for it in:
config-system-system updates
try that way
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Yes, I too look for my monthly updates in the path you describe. At least twice per day.
lightuser said:
I also am stuck on Nov 5 with a phone bought direct from Google. I am on Mint (T-Mobile MVNO).
Manually re-checking in system - system updates - check for updates reports that it is up to date.
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Yep, same here. Just checked and says I'm up to date with the November update.
i don´t know how your cell companies work with google, but i knew that in other brands of phones there were different kind of updates, direct for the unlocked phones, with the cell companies attempt to intercept those updates to modify it, perhaps something has changed after November update giving them the control.
my cell company does not interfere.
did you ask the operators?
miguelAr9 said:
i don´t know how your cell companies work with google, but i knew that in other brands of phones there were different kind of updates, direct for the unlocked phones, with the cell companies attempt to intercept those updates to modify it, perhaps something has changed after November update giving them the control.
my cell company does not interfere.
did you ask the operators?
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My company doesn't gatekeep updates on any phones on their network.
mikehd1959 said:
I usually receive my updates around the 5th of the month. November 2022 was my last update. The phone was bought direct from Google unlocked. I use it on Consumer Cellular (AT&T). I've called google support and posted the issue on their community forum. Support said to factory reset but admitted they have no idea of what's going on. My post was locked in the community forum.
I saw on the XDA Pixel 5 forum that there was some issue with the releases but its not confirmed by Google.
I'm more concerned over security patches than bug fixes. My phone is working fine.
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I'm still on December 5th security update and November 1st Google Play system update on my Pixel 7
Like others, I bought my Pixel 5 unlocked, direct from Google.
The last update I received was November 2022. Typically, on the 5th of the month or so, I could pop into settings and check for update and it would be there.
I saw reports on several sites of an issue with the Dec update on 5 and 5a phones - some getting bricked - and so I didn't so much mind never getting that update. BUT, this was a pricey phone, and I buy from Google specifically to get 3 years of monthly security (and feature) updates.
Google NEEDS to provide some manner of explanation. If they would just state that there's an issue and they are working to address it, just that acknowledgement would be appreciated.
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I usually receive my updates around the 5th of the month. November 2022 was my last update. The phone was bought direct from Google unlocked. I use it on Consumer Cellular (AT&T). I've called google support and posted the issue on their community forum. Support said to factory reset but admitted they have no idea of what's going on. My post was locked in the community forum.
I saw on the XDA Pixel 5 forum that there was some issue with the releases but its not confirmed by Google.
I'm more concerned over security patches than bug fixes. My phone is working fine.
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Yes, I have the same problem, no update on my 5a since Nov 5th.
Googles lame "support" function can be reliably counted on to punt with a factory reset recommendation whenever they don't know the answer. The next suggestion will be to exchange the phone under warranty. Of course, if it is no longer under warranty then you are SOL
Has Google head Sundar Pichai laid off the help to save some $$?
Both of my Pixel 5As on Google Fi never updated beyond November. I finally gave up and sideloaded the January OTA on mine. My wife is still stuck on November on hers.
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Both of my Pixel 5As on Google Fi never updated beyond November. I finally gave up and sideloaded the January OTA on mine. My wife is still stuck on November on hers.
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Have you had any issues with the January OTA?
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Both of my Pixel 5As on Google Fi never updated beyond November. I finally gave up and sideloaded the January OTA on mine. My wife is still stuck on November on hers.
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Can you give more info here? Is there a way to safely download and apply the update or does it involve a reset and firmware install?
I went through the google support chat and ended with them pointing me to https://pixelrepair.withgoogle.com/carrier_selection to "manually install the system update". I haven't pursued it yet, because it talks about doing a backup and restore and I'm not looking forward to that...
I'm not sure my app state will be preserved and it will be a hassle to go through other recovery processes for some of them.
I am a Linux user and relatively clueful about computers, but naive about Android. I think I'd be able to follow some ADB command steps, but I get put off by web discussions around Android that expect folks to download from sketchy looking file-share sites and blindly trust whatever is in them
FWIW, I tried to follow the support advice at the pixelrepair carrier selection link above. After wiping and reinstalling my phone using the appropriate "USA Others" carrier choice, it left me with the exact same TP1A.221105.002 build number I had before and the same problem of showing up to date with Nov 5.
So a big waste of time and the incomplete backup/restore I expected means I get to piece back together a number of extra app accounts etc...
Edit: the next support reply just says something similar to what others said above...
Thanks for trying the steps. Our most recent Pixel update will be deployed at a later date for a small subset of Pixel 5 and Pixel 5a (5G) users. We are currently re-evaluating the build before distribution to this group.
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Have you had any issues with the January OTA?
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I haven't noticed any new issues. The Bluetooth connections to my Garmin watch and Dexcom CGM are still a little flakey sometimes, but they have been since the upgrade to Android 13, so nothing new there.
I figured Google would have pulled the OTA images off the official website if there was a big enough problem.
There have been reports of the OTA causing the black screen death, but I thinks it's just coincidental and the phone was going to die anyway. I decided I might as well get the repair/replacement over now before they end the extended warranty for it.
FWIW, mine got an update today and so went straight from Nov to Feb 5 patch level.
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FWIW, mine got an update today and so went straight from Nov to Feb 5 patch level.
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Thanks for the heads up. I just checked and my 5a is now preparing for system update.
You can ADB sideload updates, even on a locked bootloader, without wiping your device. If this ever happens again and you're months behind on the update, just sideload it rather than being at the mercy for Google to actually push out the update to your phone. Instructions: https://developers.google.com/android/ota
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You can ADB sideload updates, even on a locked bootloader, without wiping your device. If this ever happens again and you're months behind on the update, just sideload it rather than being at the mercy for Google to actually push out the update to your phone. Instructions: https://developers.google.com/android/ota
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Yes, that's always an option, however, there was enough internet chatter about it being deliberately withheld, or causing issues with phones that I was reluctant to take that path.
Google's silence on these topics doesn't help.
It seems to be happening again in March - the phone does not find an update either manually or automatically. There are March images, Factory and Full OTA, available on Google's site though. I'm wondering if there is a reason to not install the update with Fastboot. This is all very odd.