Hi
Just new to OnePlus and have just ordered a 3T.
I have watched quite a few videos and read a lot of forums but I don't know much about the OS Updates and the way they work - I'm not wanting to start any complaints about releases being slow just some general information.
I know that Nougat is supposed to be final before the end of the year but how does that actually happen (I'm not supposed to be getting my phone until January anyways) - Does the beta get pushed out OTA or is that something I have to sign up for seperately?
As I am not going to get my phone until January (Despatch 30th Dec) will it simply come with Nougat installed?
Is there a list somewhere which relates Oxygen releases with Android releases?
Thanks
I'm pretty sure the Nougat will come as OTA (those who have rooted/unlocked bootloader are excluded though). You might get the phone with either OS, but you can just update it after setting it up.
Why samsung takes so much time to release ROM updates?
In Brazil the last one is N950FXXU1AQI1 and was released in september 10th.
Because they suck with updates :crying: They update the cheap and older models first and then the flagships.
gee2012 said:
Because they suck with updates :crying: They update the cheap and older models first and then the flagships.
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If you don't know what's going on, then don't react at all!
The November security-patch is on test now; there were problems to be solved first:
* freezing problems after using Contacts-app
* High battery usage AOD
BlueBorne has been patched in the latest update
They are crap with updates, my UK unlocked exynos is on August security patch. What happened to September's and October's? Shocking. I have the S8 as well and that wasn't too bad with updates.
Sent from my SM-N950F using XDA Labs
henklbr said:
If you don't know what's going on, then don't react at all!
The November security-patch is on test now; there were problems to be solved first:
* freezing problems after using Contacts-app
* High battery usage AOD
BlueBorne has been patched in the latest update
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That may be but its taking Samsung since ages way to long to offer firmware updates and security patches. If Sony or Nokia can do it so should Samsung beeing a humongous company with more devs then any other OEM. Hopefully they will implement Project Treble in Oreo for easier and faster patch updates.
gee2012 said:
That may be but its taking Samsung since ages way to long to offer firmware updates and security patches. If Sony or Nokia can do it so should Samsung beeing a humongous company with more devs then any other OEM. Hopefully they will implement Project Treble in Oreo for easier and faster patch updates.
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The problem isn't all Samsung's. Part of the issue is having to go through the carriers.
Google hopes to start solving the problem with Project Treble. If that works as advertised, we'll get more timely critical updates. The trouble is, we won't see Treble until Oreo hits the streets.
Already received October update on MiA1 and MiA2, given that these two devices already receive late updates, Nokia claims themselves to be fast on providing updates, but they haven't provided October patch yet, while all major manufacturers are doing it.
October security patch fixes a major security flaw in the framework that lets hacker execute codes on your phone remotely.
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2018-10-01
shailendra1993 said:
Already received October update on MiA1 and MiA2, given that these two devices already receive late updates.
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According to HMD it's either your carrier or your country holding it up. They need to come up with better excuses
divvykev said:
According to HMD it's either your carrier or your country holding it up. They need to come up with better excuses
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October patch is not out yet.
I am already on Pie, but it's buggy as hell.
I suspect that they are working on a stable Pie update for rest of the world and at the same time trying to fix the bugs, but they are too late at that.
shailendra1993 said:
October patch is not out yet.
I am already on Pie, but it's buggy as hell.
I suspect that they are working on a stable Pie update for rest of the world and at the same time trying to fix the bugs, but they are too late at that.
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The same build is rolling out for everyone. Bugfixes will be included in security patches.
I usually receive my updates around the 5th of the month. November 2022 was my last update. The phone was bought direct from Google unlocked. I use it on Consumer Cellular (AT&T). I've called google support and posted the issue on their community forum. Support said to factory reset but admitted they have no idea of what's going on. My post was locked in the community forum.
I saw on the XDA Pixel 5 forum that there was some issue with the releases but its not confirmed by Google.
I'm more concerned over security patches than bug fixes. My phone is working fine.
hi.
i bought my 5a, like you, from Google and unlocked.
i use it in Argentina.
i never received any communication about updates but i allways get my monthly update looking for it in:
config-system-system updates
try that way
right now i have all the updates, the last is January 5
I also am stuck on Nov 5 with a phone bought direct from Google. I am on Mint (T-Mobile MVNO).
Manually re-checking in system - system updates - check for updates reports that it is up to date.
miguelAr9 said:
hi.
i bought my 5a, like you, from Google and unlocked.
i use it in Argentina.
i never received any communication about updates but i allways get my monthly update looking for it in:
config-system-system updates
try that way
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Yes, I too look for my monthly updates in the path you describe. At least twice per day.
lightuser said:
I also am stuck on Nov 5 with a phone bought direct from Google. I am on Mint (T-Mobile MVNO).
Manually re-checking in system - system updates - check for updates reports that it is up to date.
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Yep, same here. Just checked and says I'm up to date with the November update.
i don´t know how your cell companies work with google, but i knew that in other brands of phones there were different kind of updates, direct for the unlocked phones, with the cell companies attempt to intercept those updates to modify it, perhaps something has changed after November update giving them the control.
my cell company does not interfere.
did you ask the operators?
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i don´t know how your cell companies work with google, but i knew that in other brands of phones there were different kind of updates, direct for the unlocked phones, with the cell companies attempt to intercept those updates to modify it, perhaps something has changed after November update giving them the control.
my cell company does not interfere.
did you ask the operators?
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My company doesn't gatekeep updates on any phones on their network.
mikehd1959 said:
I usually receive my updates around the 5th of the month. November 2022 was my last update. The phone was bought direct from Google unlocked. I use it on Consumer Cellular (AT&T). I've called google support and posted the issue on their community forum. Support said to factory reset but admitted they have no idea of what's going on. My post was locked in the community forum.
I saw on the XDA Pixel 5 forum that there was some issue with the releases but its not confirmed by Google.
I'm more concerned over security patches than bug fixes. My phone is working fine.
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I'm still on December 5th security update and November 1st Google Play system update on my Pixel 7
Like others, I bought my Pixel 5 unlocked, direct from Google.
The last update I received was November 2022. Typically, on the 5th of the month or so, I could pop into settings and check for update and it would be there.
I saw reports on several sites of an issue with the Dec update on 5 and 5a phones - some getting bricked - and so I didn't so much mind never getting that update. BUT, this was a pricey phone, and I buy from Google specifically to get 3 years of monthly security (and feature) updates.
Google NEEDS to provide some manner of explanation. If they would just state that there's an issue and they are working to address it, just that acknowledgement would be appreciated.
mikehd1959 said:
I usually receive my updates around the 5th of the month. November 2022 was my last update. The phone was bought direct from Google unlocked. I use it on Consumer Cellular (AT&T). I've called google support and posted the issue on their community forum. Support said to factory reset but admitted they have no idea of what's going on. My post was locked in the community forum.
I saw on the XDA Pixel 5 forum that there was some issue with the releases but its not confirmed by Google.
I'm more concerned over security patches than bug fixes. My phone is working fine.
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Yes, I have the same problem, no update on my 5a since Nov 5th.
Googles lame "support" function can be reliably counted on to punt with a factory reset recommendation whenever they don't know the answer. The next suggestion will be to exchange the phone under warranty. Of course, if it is no longer under warranty then you are SOL
Has Google head Sundar Pichai laid off the help to save some $$?
Both of my Pixel 5As on Google Fi never updated beyond November. I finally gave up and sideloaded the January OTA on mine. My wife is still stuck on November on hers.
skeeterfood said:
Both of my Pixel 5As on Google Fi never updated beyond November. I finally gave up and sideloaded the January OTA on mine. My wife is still stuck on November on hers.
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Have you had any issues with the January OTA?
skeeterfood said:
Both of my Pixel 5As on Google Fi never updated beyond November. I finally gave up and sideloaded the January OTA on mine. My wife is still stuck on November on hers.
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Can you give more info here? Is there a way to safely download and apply the update or does it involve a reset and firmware install?
I went through the google support chat and ended with them pointing me to https://pixelrepair.withgoogle.com/carrier_selection to "manually install the system update". I haven't pursued it yet, because it talks about doing a backup and restore and I'm not looking forward to that...
I'm not sure my app state will be preserved and it will be a hassle to go through other recovery processes for some of them.
I am a Linux user and relatively clueful about computers, but naive about Android. I think I'd be able to follow some ADB command steps, but I get put off by web discussions around Android that expect folks to download from sketchy looking file-share sites and blindly trust whatever is in them
FWIW, I tried to follow the support advice at the pixelrepair carrier selection link above. After wiping and reinstalling my phone using the appropriate "USA Others" carrier choice, it left me with the exact same TP1A.221105.002 build number I had before and the same problem of showing up to date with Nov 5.
So a big waste of time and the incomplete backup/restore I expected means I get to piece back together a number of extra app accounts etc...
Edit: the next support reply just says something similar to what others said above...
Thanks for trying the steps. Our most recent Pixel update will be deployed at a later date for a small subset of Pixel 5 and Pixel 5a (5G) users. We are currently re-evaluating the build before distribution to this group.
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Have you had any issues with the January OTA?
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I haven't noticed any new issues. The Bluetooth connections to my Garmin watch and Dexcom CGM are still a little flakey sometimes, but they have been since the upgrade to Android 13, so nothing new there.
I figured Google would have pulled the OTA images off the official website if there was a big enough problem.
There have been reports of the OTA causing the black screen death, but I thinks it's just coincidental and the phone was going to die anyway. I decided I might as well get the repair/replacement over now before they end the extended warranty for it.
FWIW, mine got an update today and so went straight from Nov to Feb 5 patch level.
lightuser said:
FWIW, mine got an update today and so went straight from Nov to Feb 5 patch level.
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Thanks for the heads up. I just checked and my 5a is now preparing for system update.
You can ADB sideload updates, even on a locked bootloader, without wiping your device. If this ever happens again and you're months behind on the update, just sideload it rather than being at the mercy for Google to actually push out the update to your phone. Instructions: https://developers.google.com/android/ota
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You can ADB sideload updates, even on a locked bootloader, without wiping your device. If this ever happens again and you're months behind on the update, just sideload it rather than being at the mercy for Google to actually push out the update to your phone. Instructions: https://developers.google.com/android/ota
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Yes, that's always an option, however, there was enough internet chatter about it being deliberately withheld, or causing issues with phones that I was reluctant to take that path.
Google's silence on these topics doesn't help.
It seems to be happening again in March - the phone does not find an update either manually or automatically. There are March images, Factory and Full OTA, available on Google's site though. I'm wondering if there is a reason to not install the update with Fastboot. This is all very odd.