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[DISCUSSION]Android 4.4.3 Update in June?!

Well done, Samsung. They said in the beginning of June that the Update will be available within June. It is now the 19th. Of July and it's not here yet. They better be updating directly to 4.4.4 soon or at least a fast Android L update when it is available.. This is the only bad side of Android: for non-Nexus users it takes literally half a year to receive a MINOR update... Am I the only one that is angry about this problem?

guetzli32 said:
Well done, Samsung. They said in the beginning of June that the Update will be available within June. It is now the 19th. Of July and it's not here yet. They better be updating directly to 4.4.4 soon or at least a fast Android L update when it is available.. This is the only bad side of Android: for non-Nexus users it takes literally half a year to receive a MINOR update... Am I the only one that is angry about this problem?
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But what's new. Samsung has newer been fast or early with updates.

They would have binned the 4.4.3 update and gone straight to 4.4.4 which makes sense really.
It shouldn't be too long now that we start seeing it roll out to the S5, but as always it's luck of the draw which region gets it first, & how long others have to wait until it reaches them which could be months.

No one really has a good track record when it comes to updates... sure sometimes some are better than others but if you want to go a non nexus device you have to deal with it

They are taking their time for sure... Sony, HTC already beat them to the punch (dunno about LG).
I only can remember the supposed document that didn't seem so real to be honest, when did Samsung publish an update schedule?
As said before in this thread, they most likely cancelled 4.4.3 to go all the way to 4.4.4 but even Sony has released that now.

i hope they will jump directly to android L

drakester09 said:
They are taking their time for sure... Sony, HTC already beat them to the punch (dunno about LG).
I only can remember the supposed document that didn't seem so real to be honest, when did Samsung publish an update schedule?
As said before in this thread, they most likely cancelled 4.4.3 to go all the way to 4.4.4 but even Sony has released that now.
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Reason for that being that both HTC & Sony software's isn't as bloated as Touchwiz is, tbh i think this generation of Touchwiz is actually worst performance wise & looks than the last gen on the Note 3 & S4.

ixon2001 said:
Reason for that being that both HTC & Sony software's isn't as bloated as Touchwiz is, tbh i think this generation of Touchwiz is actually worst performance wise & looks than the last gen on the Note 3 & S4.
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Both Sony and HTC have a lot of code to add as well, but they are executing much better.
I suspect the delays are due to Samsung pushing a lot of devices at the same time and having limited engineering resources.
Most likely they are working on the Note 4 at the moment... and the 16 new devices they keep pushing every month.

guetzli32 said:
Well done, Samsung. They said in the beginning of June that the Update will be available within June. It is now the 19th. Of July and it's not here yet. They better be updating directly to 4.4.4 soon or at least a fast Android L update when it is available.. This is the only bad side of Android: for non-Nexus users it takes literally half a year to receive a MINOR update... Am I the only one that is angry about this problem?
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Yes, you're the only one. Do you even know what .3 and .4 updates are? They're mostly security fixes that OEMs probably fixed in their builds before Google's own Nexus factory Android.
Enviado do meu Galaxy S5

guetzli32 said:
Well done, Samsung. They said in the beginning of June that the Update will be available within June. It is now the 19th. Of July and it's not here yet. They better be updating directly to 4.4.4 soon or at least a fast Android L update when it is available.. This is the only bad side of Android: for non-Nexus users it takes literally half a year to receive a MINOR update... Am I the only one that is angry about this problem?
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A; we weren't promised the update at all. there was a rumour started because of a heavily cropped image
B,the minor security fixs were possibly put in the NG update we all just got
C you start the thread with a promise of discussion but the op is typical OEM slamming that ive come to expect.
D there is no D because the first 3 were so good

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As has been suggested , not much "Discussion" going on...
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P9+ ROMs?

I'm thinking of buying P9+.
I've been looking xda and I'm wondering, why aren't there custom ROM's for this phone?
Is it not interesting to developers? It's not so new, that can't be it. Is it so good no-one want's to tweak it?
It can be rooted. Is it fairly easy? Root helps
But I really like trying different ROMs and "make it mine"

it's so good out of the box!
After years with Sammy devices, those i flash directly out of box, hardly start them stock ever.
But with P9+ i don't need that, this **** fit me perfectly!

That is not an xda answer...
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terhiha said:
I'm thinking of buying P9+.
I've been looking xda and I'm wondering, why aren't there custom ROM's for this phone?
Is it not interesting to developers? It's not so new, that can't be it. Is it so good no-one want's to tweak it?
It can be rooted. Is it fairly easy? Root helps
But I really like trying different ROMs and "make it mine"
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You know how it is... The more attention a phone gets, the more it attracts new developers and that equals new roms and stuff
Also the fact is that it is rather difficult for developers to actually make new roms for phones that haven't released a "working" source code slash libs for it.

Masze has right though, it works really well with it's EMUI4.1(1), smooth as Google vanilla firmware. Not much bloat at all. And it has a very good theme engine, there is already themes here which used together with Nova launcher Beta looks/behaves very close to stock Android. The phone is very speedy and with a great screen(S-AMOLED), only thing really sucking is the unpossibility to use Googles latest security patches. I use leaked firmware for my region(B181) so at least I have the September patch, but I would really like to have the latest patches shortly after they arrive. That's the biggest con of Huawei.

xeizo said:
Masze has right though, it works really well with it's EMUI4.1(1), smooth as Google vanilla firmware. Not much bloat at all. And it has a very good theme engine, there is already themes here which used together with Nova launcher Beta looks/behaves very close to stock Android. The phone is very speedy and with a great screen(S-AMOLED), only thing really sucking is the unpossibility to use Googles latest security patches. I use leaked firmware for my region(B181) so at least I have the September patch, but I would really like to have the latest patches shortly after they arrive. That's the biggest con of Huawei.
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agree, i'm still on freakin June patch. Still waiting for OTA.

B181 OTA downloading just now

terhiha said:
B181 OTA downloading just now
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Model?
Country?

masze said:
Model?
Country?
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VIE L09, finland

masze said:
agree, i'm still on freakin June patch. Still waiting for OTA.
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Flash it manually?
I'm on B190, Oct 1 patch.
Although supposedly that was only a partial patch, with Google release a full one on Oct 5 fixing more critical bugs.
Would be nice if OEMs (not just Huawei) at least released security updates soon after release.

xeizo said:
Masze has right though, it works really well with it's EMUI4.1(1), smooth as Google vanilla firmware. Not much bloat at all. And it has a very good theme engine, there is already themes here which used together with Nova launcher Beta looks/behaves very close to stock Android. The phone is very speedy and with a great screen(S-AMOLED), only thing really sucking is the unpossibility to use Googles latest security patches. I use leaked firmware for my region(B181) so at least I have the September patch, but I would really like to have the latest patches shortly after they arrive. That's the biggest con of Huawei.
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Yes I also agree with u. The phone is just amazing. I don't need any custom rom for it as the original functions are so good and so practical.
I saw many people mentioned about security patch but not quite sure what is it and how would it affect our phone? Is it easier to be hacked or ? Anything if we don't update the security patch?

Yes, Google releases security patches monthly mostly because they have been forced to do so by EU and US authorities. The reason is that Android is constantly under heavy attack from hackers and there is several new exploits each month. The most severe is those which takes over your phone just by connecting to a website. Anyway, Google monthly releases patches for those new exploits, the problem is Android is severely fragmented so the only really updated phones are Goggle vanilla Android on Nexus/Pixel or AOSP. Huawei is not the worst offender on being slow, but certainly not the quickest. And there is no known active developer of AOSP for P9 Plus.

xeizo said:
Huawei is not the worst offender on being slow, but certainly not the quickest. And there is no known active developer of AOSP for P9 Plus.
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I would say that Huawei is one of the slowest manufacturer to bring security updates.
Samsung is nowadays one of the fastest.
One bad example is P9 Plus. Huawei flagship (before Mate 9) and still the latest security update is from June and we are already on December.
That's six month after Google releases.
Pay 700$ for a phone and have no support from manufacturer afterwards. Welcome to Huawei customer...

sobelixtus said:
I would say that Huawei is one of the slowest manufacturer to bring security updates.
Samsung is nowadays one of the fastest.
One bad example is P9 Plus. Huawei flagship (before Mate 9) and still the latest security update is from June and we are already on December.
That's six month after Google releases.
Pay 700$ for a phone and have no support from manufacturer afterwards. Welcome to Huawei customer...
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They do have reasonably quick support, but only for certain markets. Earlier today I installed a rom with security patches for November made for the operator Telekom. It works alright but it's certainly not official for my country. For the Chinese market they are already on Android 7 Nougat. One wishes they could synchronize their releases a LOT better.

Software Support for OP3/3T: Questions & Answers.

Recently, we noticed lots of OP3/3T users asking questions related to future software support for their devices. To better keep everyone in the loop, we invited @oliver Z. , our Head of Product to answer some of the most commonly asked questions from the community.
David: Hi Oliver. First, could you please explain why many more updates were released for the OP5 than the OP3/3T in recent times?
Oliver: Sure, we have been gathering plenty of user feedback on the OP5 following the launch in mid-June. We dedicated our efforts in the first 1-2 months after release to better satisfy users’ needs and boost our latest product’s capabilities.
Normally, we release a new Official Release (OTA) update every 1-2 months. If you’d like to taste some of the latest OxygenOS features earlier, and receive updates more frequently, you’re more than welcome to join our Open Beta Program. Currently, we release Open Beta updates for the OP3/3T approximately once every month.
David: Some users asked why some new features, which are available through the Open Beta Program, are not implemented in the stable build releases on the OP3/3T?
Oliver: We’ve always positioned the Beta Program as a public laboratory for new features, feedback, and bug testing. This helps us improve the code of all of our MP builds. We unfortunately, cannot guarantee every feature present in the Open Betas will transition to the Official releases. Often times, even though the feature seems stable enough in the Beta builds, they are not ready or do not meet our quality standards for public release. (And yes, sometimes we test the value of upcoming features through the Open Beta Program for release in new or upcoming devices or later software updates.) In some situations, our limited development and QT resources force us to bring these features to one device first. These features are then introduced on other older devices further down the road. We love how the program has grown, but we do have to admit that we still have room to improve and better optimize the Open Beta Program.
Also, I’d like to take this opportunity to thank our users who have joined either our Closed Beta Program or our Open Beta Program. You have all helped us shape the functionalities and quality of OxygenOS.
David: What are you planning with regards to security updates for the OP3/3T?
Oliver: In keeping with the original schedule, we planned to update OxygenOS on the OP3/3T to version 4.5, with the latest security patch level update, in the next 1-2 months. However, some feedback from the community caught our attention and we decided to tweak it a little bit. We’ll split the update into two parts. First, we’ll update the security patch level to August, which will be released soon. The OxygenOS 4.5 update will be released at the scheduled time.
David: So the OP3/3T will soon catch up with the current version on the OP5, but some features on the OP5 will not be available on the OP3/3T, right?
Oliver: Yes, those missing features are mainly a result of hardware differences, such as the availability of Reading Mode on the OP5, which depends on the RGB sensor. The OP3/3T don’t have that hardware interface, so we are unable to release this feature on these two devices. The same reason applies to the new off-screen gestures and DCI-P3 screen calibration.
David: My last question is very important to OP3/3T users. How long will the OP3/3T continue to receive software support?
Oliver: Android O is going to be the last Android version update we’ll release for OP3/3T. We’ll continue to release security patch updates for the foreseeable future, and offer support for individual application updates. After the OP3/3T have been updated to Android O, we’ll start moving the Open Beta Program from OP3/3T to OP5.
Alright that's all I wanted to ask. Did you find answers to all of your questions? If not, leave your questions in the comments below and we’ll get back to you soon. Thank you all and enjoy the upcoming weekend!
Yours,
David

Friends I am sharing this just FYI that OP3/3T support is going to receive O and few updates after that and then the open beta program will move to OP5 and slowly the support for OP3/3T will end as usual with older models.

With in a year the OP3 has turned as old device ..?[emoji22] ..opting OP3 is very bad experience.
Stop selling the product in Amazon India..
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android.reddy143 said:
With in a year the OP3 has turned as old device ..?[emoji22] ..opting OP3 is very bad experience.
Stop selling the product in Amazon India..
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Not sure what you really expected. This has been the companies MO since day one. If you thought it would be different then no one is at fault other then you. Do the needed research and you will be fine. Also just a news flash but the every device is old by the time you get it. Heck unless you compile the OS your selfe then your software is outdated as well.

zelendel said:
Not sure what you really expected. This has been the companies MO since day one. If you thought it would be different then no one is at fault other then you. Do the needed research and you will be fine. Also just a news flash but the every device is old by the time you get it. Heck unless you compile the OS your selfe then your software is outdated as well.
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I did not understand what exactly you would like to convey.
You mean that , OP no exception , compare to any other organization? If you agree that ..all other companies respect thire flagship devices at most recent, even though they release different flagships in a year.
And other vendors are not able to provide software update very frequently due to various reasons ex. Hadware compatibility, upcoming model in the same price...etc. Here they did not annouce anything from company for flagships.
OP had releases flagship devices and no support get from company? Strange...[emoji15][emoji24]
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android.reddy143 said:
I did not understand what exactly you would like to convey.
You mean that , OP no exception , compare to any other organization? If you agree that ..all other companies respect thire flagship devices at most recent, even though they release different flagships in a year.
And other vendors are not able to provide software update very frequently due to various reasons ex. Hadware compatibility, upcoming model in the same price...etc. Here they did not annouce anything from company for flagships.
OP had releases flagship devices and no support get from company? Strange...[emoji15][emoji24]
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When O comes out the device will be about 18 months old. The same cut off point that other flagships offer. Some flagships never even see an update.
What I mean to convey is simple. If you are worried about updates then the only way to be sure is to get a device that you can build the OS for yourself. Most devices (even Flagships) come with outdated kernels and to be up to date you would have to flash every single day and sometimes a few times a day.

android.reddy143 said:
I did not understand what exactly you would like to convey.
You mean that , OP no exception , compare to any other organization? If you agree that ..all other companies respect thire flagship devices at most recent, even though they release different flagships in a year.
And other vendors are not able to provide software update very frequently due to various reasons ex. Hadware compatibility, upcoming model in the same price...etc. Here they did not annouce anything from company for flagships.
OP had releases flagship devices and no support get from company? Strange...[emoji15][emoji24]
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Actually you get a damm lot support. Look how many updates there have been. Samsung still runs 7.0 if you have a Huawei you get 6 updates spreaded around 2 years, those updates contain minor bug fixes nothing special at all. And so on. You paid €400 for a phone and expect everything!

People complain at anything, Every device is supported for 24 months or less.. in most cases 18 or less Be glad it's getting O and not the sh!t show OP2 was.. But I give credit where it's due to OP my OP3 has had way more updates and fixes than my S7 Edge and that costs twice the price.. and still running outdated sh!tty 7.0.. So all isn't bad as long as OP keeps their devices up to date and fast with source code I can see them being the device to go to for Modding as such

android.reddy143 said:
With in a year the OP3 has turned as old device ..?[emoji22] ..opting OP3 is very bad experience.
Stop selling the product in Amazon India..
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We got or will get 3 major android versions on op3, thats actually pretty good for a manufacturer. What did you expect?

MarcTremonti said:
We got or will get 3 major android versions on op3, thats actually pretty good for a manufacturer. What did you expect?
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The device did not get 3 major android versions as that would mean it came out with 5.0 but it came out with 6.0 even though 7.1 had been out when it was released.
Either way. The device should be ok for unofficial updates for atleast another year or 2 before the lack of updated kernel source will make the updates less.

zelendel said:
The device did not get 3 major android versions as that would mean it came out with 5.0 but it came out with 6.0 even though 7.1 had been out when it was released.
Either way. The device should be ok for unofficial updates for atleast another year or 2 before the lack of updated kernel source will make the updates less.
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Read my post. I said we got or will get 3 versions.
Marshmallow, nougat und the new O. So 3 versions. And thats pretty decent.
Besides that its an ex flagship, so we will enjoy good custom rom support.
Even my old Htc One S (jellybean latest official update) recently got nougat ressurrection remix which is working flawlessly.

MarcTremonti said:
Read my post. I said we got or will get 3 versions.
Marshmallow, nougat und the new O. So 3 versions. And thats pretty decent.
Besides that its an ex flagship, so we will enjoy good custom rom support.
Even my old Htc One S (jellybean latest official update) recently got nougat ressurrection remix which is working flawlessly.
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I wouldn't call it a flagship but close enough.
It shipped with 6.0 when it should have shipped with 7.0 at least. So I don't count that at all.

zelendel said:
I wouldn't call it a flagship but close enough.
It shipped with 6.0 when it should have shipped with 7.0 at least. So I don't count that at all.
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OP3 Shipped in June 2016, 7.0 didn't release till August 2016..

zelendel said:
I wouldn't call it a flagship but close enough.
It shipped with 6.0 when it should have shipped with 7.0 at least. So I don't count that at all.
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What else to call it? It directly competed with other flagships.
And it coulndt be shipped with 7, when 7 wasnt even available to that point, lol. So you can count 6.

MarcTremonti said:
What else to call it? It directly competed with other flagships.
And it coulndt be shipped with 7, when 7 wasnt even available to that point, lol. So you can count 6.
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I call it a high midrange.
No I never count the OS it comes with.

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I call it a high midrange.
No I never count the OS it comes with.
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Totally agree. The OS the phone comes with out of the box is never counted as an update. :highfive:
If we get Android O, that will be our 2nd major OS update.
I agree with others that we've definitely had better support than Samsung Flagships in the past year.

Support has been great. Look how much updates we got, next to that how many of them where useful? Alot! We got alot better support then Samsung and Huawei at least. If they bring us a proper and stable Android 8.0 I am completely fine with it! Keep in mind this only is a €399/429 phone .

Nokia 7 Plus Delaying Security Update

Already received October update on MiA1 and MiA2, given that these two devices already receive late updates, Nokia claims themselves to be fast on providing updates, but they haven't provided October patch yet, while all major manufacturers are doing it.
October security patch fixes a major security flaw in the framework that lets hacker execute codes on your phone remotely.
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2018-10-01

shailendra1993 said:
Already received October update on MiA1 and MiA2, given that these two devices already receive late updates.
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According to HMD it's either your carrier or your country holding it up. They need to come up with better excuses

divvykev said:
According to HMD it's either your carrier or your country holding it up. They need to come up with better excuses
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October patch is not out yet.
I am already on Pie, but it's buggy as hell.
I suspect that they are working on a stable Pie update for rest of the world and at the same time trying to fix the bugs, but they are too late at that.

shailendra1993 said:
October patch is not out yet.
I am already on Pie, but it's buggy as hell.
I suspect that they are working on a stable Pie update for rest of the world and at the same time trying to fix the bugs, but they are too late at that.
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The same build is rolling out for everyone. Bugfixes will be included in security patches.

security updates

Guess we won't be getting security updates then, mine is still stuck on 1st November 18

tigsandmitch said:
Guess we won't be getting security updates then, mine is still stuck on 1st November 18
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Same here, UK, and still on .156 build..
Phone is getting recycled to the missus.
I will buy a new MI 9.
Xiaomi ftw.
Adiós Huawei! ?

Latest news
February 27, 2019: Huawei Honor Play users in India have a new software update ready to download. The EMUI-based update has version 9.0.0.184 (C675E7R1P9) and besides installing February 2019 security patch, you also get support for ViLTE feature that lets you make video calls over LTE.
The OTA also fixes camera issues related to electronic image stabilization (EIS) and AI mode, fixes system ringtone bug, improves call quality, and optimizes call stability in certain scenarios.

Huawei can stay in China.... sux to be Honor.

It's getting real bad now. Still on November security patches and it's now march. This all on a phone which hasn't even been out a year yet. Honor need to get their game together, I was impressed by the spec and price but support has been atrocious.

Buffy_crp said:
It's getting real bad now. Still on November security patches and it's now march. This all on a phone which hasn't even been out a year yet. Honor need to get their game together, I was impressed by the spec and price but support has been atrocious.
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Today I got an upade to 9.0. 0.161. Security update to the 1st of January and Widewine L1.

venomxob said:
Today I got an upade to 9.0. 0.161. Security update to the 1st of January and Widewine L1.
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I have been on that Security Patch for more than two weeks.

pja1985430 said:
I have been on that Security Patch for more than two weeks.
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Good for you.

venomxob said:
Today I got an upade to 9.0. 0.161. Security update to the 1st of January and Widewine L1.
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Just got that too ?