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When selected via the Power Control widget, is the GPS ever REALLY on unless you're running an app that actually uses it? In other words, would it be any more battery friendly to leave it disabled and then just enable it before launching an app that needs it (such as Google Maps Navigation)? Or is it safe to just leave it always enabled?
I have it always on and it never shows up under battery-usage-since-unplugged, Probably because nothing is using it.
Thanks for the reply. I guess I'll leave it enabled for awhile and see for myself.
Yup...me too. I have it on all the time and my battery is just the same as not having it on. I actually have everything on the power widget on.
britoso said:
I have it always on and it never shows up under battery-usage-since-unplugged, Probably because nothing is using it.
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Good to know. I'm going to turn it on and see how it effects my battery.
SiNJiN76 said:
I actually have everything on the power widget on.
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Well, I'm pretty certain that keeping WiFi and Bluetooth on at all times will drain the battery quite a bit, whether you're connected to other devices or not.
Part Four said:
Well, I'm pretty certain that keeping WiFi and Bluetooth on at all times will drain the battery quite a bit, whether you're connected to other devices or not.
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thats different though, as they "search" for something to connect to.
not the case for the GPS.
nmesisca said:
thats different though, as they "search" for something to connect to.
not the case for the GPS.
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Right, I'm getting that. But what kind of feedback can someone give on battery life when he/she is already a serious power drainer?
This RILJ wakelock on the dialer seems to be impossible to remove. I've tried everything from disabling all apps, turning off the phone and turning it back on with airplane mode, TWO factory resets, turning off all GPS and location services, and even shutting off my mobile data. I even did all of those steps at once and to no avail.
I'm running stock right now but I seriously can not use this phone when this wakelock is disrupting my phone every damn second. I don't know if this is the right section to post this, but is anyone else experiencing this issue? Is there even hope?
I've tried what feels like everything. I feel like this will drive me crazy to the point where I will just exchange the phone and claim battery problems. Again, sorry if this is the wrong section to post this in, and I feel like such a dirty leech making a help post as my first post. This is my first android phone and I have a lot of experience with java but I need to feel secure with my new phone before I start delving into development.
Are you talking about a wakelock you see in a battery monitoring program? Or an error that keeps popping up?
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This RILJ wakelock on the dialer seems to be impossible to remove. I've tried everything from disabling all apps, turning off the phone and turning it back on with airplane mode, TWO factory resets, turning off all GPS and location services, and even shutting off my mobile data. I even did all of those steps at once and to no avail.
I'm running stock right now but I seriously can not use this phone when this wakelock is disrupting my phone every damn second. I don't know if this is the right section to post this, but is anyone else experiencing this issue? Is there even hope?
I've tried what feels like everything. I feel like this will drive me crazy to the point where I will just exchange the phone and claim battery problems. Again, sorry if this is the wrong section to post this in, and I feel like such a dirty leech making a help post as my first post. This is my first android phone and I have a lot of experience with java but I need to feel secure with my new phone before I start delving into development.
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Are you talking about a wakelock you see in a battery monitoring program? Or an error that keeps popping up?
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Yes I see the wakelock in both GSam battery monitor and wakelock detector.
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Yes I see the wakelock in both GSam battery monitor and wakelock detector.
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It's a normal wakelock? It's your radio. Turn on airplane mode, and you'll lose the 'wakelock'
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It's a normal wakelock? It's your radio. Turn on airplane mode, and you'll lose the 'wakelock'
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Yes I understand this, but the wakelock shouldn't be going off over 2000 times, right? I mean, I'm totally new to android but I've never seen this wakelock before. I'm in NYC and usually have great reception, right now I'm getting 4G LTE 3-5 bars constantly. Could it be a hardware issue with my radio?
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Yes I understand this, but the wakelock shouldn't be going off over 2000 times, right? I mean, I'm totally new to android but I've never seen this wakelock before. I'm in NYC and usually have great reception, right now I'm getting 4G LTE 3-5 bars constantly. Could it be a hardware issue with my radio?
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OK, so before I answer that, what sort of battery are you getting? What's your screen on time?
All android phones have this wakelock. It's not a hardware issue, 100%
Oh, I'm sorry but I also thought you meant a different wakelock xD RILJ wakelock is caused by having a lot of location services on, turn these off (Google Maps, Latitude, Weather constantly refreshing)
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OK, so before I answer that, what sort of battery are you getting? What's your screen on time?
All android phones have this wakelock. It's not a hardware issue, 100%
Oh, I'm sorry but I also thought you meant a different wakelock xD RILJ wakelock is caused by having a lot of location services on, turn these off (Google Maps, Latitude, Weather constantly refreshing)
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Here is the battery I was getting (can't post links yet, imgur is very safe): imgur_com/a/jCBG4 Thanks for the speedy responses btw.
I have essentially every single service off, only google's anonymous location service which is required for the weather app to work. All the sync stuff I can't turn off is set to refresh at the lowest intervals.
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Here is the battery I was getting (can't post links yet, imgur is very safe): imgur_com/a/jCBG4 Thanks for the speedy responses btw.
I have essentially every single service off, only google's anonymous location service which is required for the weather app to work. All the sync stuff I can't turn off is set to refresh at the lowest intervals.
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You're welcome. I have the same set up as you and I average about the same battery life, I think your device is fine. I would just stop looking at your wake locks and enjoy! Try flashing ARHD rom! The new base adds 2+ hours battery.
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You're welcome. I have the same set up as you and I average about the same battery life, I think your device is fine. I would just stop looking at your wake locks and enjoy! Try flashing ARHD rom! The new base adds 2+ hours battery.
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I didn't have this wakelock for those pictures. This thing is sapping my battery life causing an extra 1-2% drain an hour, which adds up quickly. It also doesn't let the phone enter deep sleep if I remember correctly.
Hi.
I experiencing heavy battery drain Form avast on my non-rooted phone with stock ROM. Like 80% or so..
I am not able to provide a log yet but does anyone got a clue where it might come from?
anyone?
Well avast mostly eats cpu time.. so yeah it will eat battery life.
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Well avast mostly eats cpu time.. so yeah it will eat battery life.
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Yeah ok but on my other phone GT-i9505 it's nothing near 80% like on my this one..
80% seems pretty much considering that the display usually drains most battery, right?
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Yeah ok but on my other phone GT-i9505 it's nothing near 80% like on my this one..
80% seems pretty much considering that the display usually drains most battery, right?
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No actually combine network activity with cpu activity and the display can become the lesser evil.
You should look at the wake locks perhaps something you are not noticing.
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No actually combine network activity with cpu activity and the display can become the lesser evil.
You should look at the wake locks perhaps something you are not noticing.
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I am checking the wakelocks now with greenify.
thanks for the info!
How do I combine network activity with cpu activity?
Is there a thread reagarding this?
Note: I am not quite sure whether this works.
I use Tasker to do the following:
Profile>Status>Display off
In-Task>Network>Mobile Data 2G/3G>only 2G
Out-Task>Network>Mobile Data 2G/3G>prefer 3G
But there is no option choosing LTE. (This is for my GT-I9505 which is capable of LTE)
I can only enable or disable LTE via secure settings plugin,
but if I enable LTE via Out-Task won't this interfere with the In-Task?
Or what do you mean by "combine network activity with cpu activity"?
Please help a noob out
I mean when you have the network and cpu working hard it quickly eats the battery.
There are many reasons why a phone would use the battery aggressively and it's sometimes a pure pain to track down what or why.
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I mean when you have the network and cpu working hard it quickly eats the battery.
There are many reasons why a phone would use the battery aggressively and it's sometimes a pure pain to track down what or why.
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Ok got it.
Could you help me out with the Tasker set up?
would you do it like that too?
Plus I am not sure how to test whether it works well...because the
display is off
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Ok got it.
Could you help me out with the Tasker set up?
would you do it like that too?
Plus I am not sure how to test whether it works well...because the
display is off
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suggestions anyone?
Hey guys, I am running stock 4.0.3 rooted with supersu and using the latest franco kernel. I am getting massive drains even while using the phone on wifi and keeping it on standby, while connected to wifi. Getting drains about 3.3-4% per hour on standby on wifi. This is absolutely crazy. I tried some older suggestions mentioned here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62074306&postcount=118 . But even that doesn't work. Battery drain is normal on mobile data, but when connected to wifi it absolutely goes crazy. Can anyone provide any insight? There are no rogue apps, I have been checking through better battery , wld , accu battery, etc.
You've probably already turned it off, but I'll just point it out in the rare instance, but make sure scanning is off. However, I did notice that you said it is when wifi is on and your phone is sleeping when you get that drain. A fix is to go into wifi settings and under "Keep Wi-fi on during sleep", pick the only plugged in option. Ideally, you should get to the bottom of this issue, but if you don't have the time and no one else figures it out, this may help.
EDIT: I wonder if smart wifi switcher has anything to do with it? Wifi connectivity fluctuates and if you have two connections that have very similar signal strength, would your phone constantly switch between the two networks in a futile manner? If this does happen, I can see that draining your battery significantly, but this is based on the premise that the switcher does not have some type of buffer zone where it does not switch if the difference is negligible.
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You've probably already turned it off, but I'll just point it out in the rare instance, but make sure scanning is off. However, I did notice that you said it is when wifi is on and your phone is sleeping when you get that drain. A fix is to go into wifi settings and under "Keep Wi-fi on during sleep", pick the only plugged in option. Ideally, you should get to the bottom of this issue, but if you don't have the time and no one else figures it out, this may help.
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Yep, I always keep scanning off! And i did try with that suggestion too, I changed the setting to never and it still drained battery. Wifi stayed on for sometime even though i set it to never and then finally turns off after a period of time, but i think that could potentially drain more battery? Are you using wifi all the time? What are your stats?
I have all those settings turned off, smart switcher, ipv6, scanning, etc
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Yep, I always keep scanning off! And i did try with that suggestion too, I changed the setting to never and it still drained battery. Wifi stayed on for sometime even though i set it to never and then finally turns off after a period of time, but i think that could potentially drain more battery? Are you using wifi all the time? What are your stats?
I have all those settings turned off, smart switcher, ipv6, scanning, etc
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Last thing I can think of is trying to use stock kernel to see if it is FK that is the culprit. FK shouldn't be the issue, but perhaps something screwed up during the flashing process? Now I'm essentially just asking you to do trial and error
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Last thing I can think of is trying to use stock kernel to see if it is FK that is the culprit. FK shouldn't be the issue, but perhaps something screwed up during the flashing process? Now I'm essentially just asking you to do trial and error
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Nah man, I trust FK more than stock
I have had similar issues with stock as well.
What are your battery statistics?
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Nah man, I trust FK more than stock
I have had similar issues with stock as well.
What are your battery statistics?
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Note that I'm in Beta 3 and running its stock kernel so I don't really see the usefulness of giving my battery stats, but yes, battery life for me has been good and unaffected by wifi draining.
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Note that I'm in Beta 3 and running its stock kernel so I don't really see the usefulness of giving my battery stats, but yes, battery life for me has been good and unaffected by wifi draining.
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Whoa, how the hell do you even get 2 hours 17 mins sot with 85% still remaining?
Is it really just me suffering from this wifi drain bug?
Anomaly65 said:
Whoa, how the hell do you even get 2 hours 17 mins sot with 85% still remaining?
Is it really just me suffering from this wifi drain bug?
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It's most likely not just you, but based on my perusal of the 3T forums (especially on the FK thread because that's most relevant to how you set up your phone), not many people are facing this issue. Does betterbattery stats not show anything funky or out of the ordinary? Can you post a screenshot of your betterybattery stats including the kernel wakelocks, alarms, and partial wakelocks page?
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It's most likely not just you, but based on my perusal of the 3T forums (especially on the FK thread because that's most relevant to how you set up your phone), not many people are facing this issue. Does betterbattery stats not show anything funky or out of the ordinary? Can you post a screenshot of your betterybattery stats including the kernel wakelocks, alarms, and partial wakelocks page?
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Check these out. I am totally fed up. I think I might have a faulty unit.
Getting 4% drain on standby!
Anomaly65 said:
Check these out. I am totally fed up. I think I might have a faulty unit.
Getting 4% drain on standby!
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I'm beginning to think it's not wifi, but the app Saavn. It may act differently when on wifi vs on cellular data and remain active constantly when on wifi. I google searched the app and its potential of being poorly optimized app, and there are reports of it never turning off and running in the background. If that is the case, it should be showing up on BBS as more of a drain, but for some reason it isn't. Still, try uninstalling the app and see what happens.
In the end, if this doesn't solve the issue, I'm beginning to think a factory reset maybe in order. I wish you also gave me BBS alarm wakeups page because that would help see if Saavn is constantly firing off alarms or not.
Go to your "Location settings" and into the 3 dot menu in upper right. Turn everything off.
do you have wifi calling on? turn it off and see
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Go to your "Location settings" and into the 3 dot menu in upper right. Turn everything off.
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I have them turned off since day 1
masri1987 said:
do you have wifi calling on? turn it off and see
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Where exactly is the setting to turn it off?
Anomaly65 said:
I have them turned off since day 1
Where exactly is the setting to turn it off?
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settings > sim and network > look towards the bottom
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settings > sim and network > look towards the bottom
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I don't have any option to turn off wifi calling in there. I am running the beta 7.1.1 now though. But the problem still persists. Too much drain when using wifi, it's being shown as android system drain. I've seen many people reporting it, so it's not just me. But for the life of me, I can't figure out what's causing it!
Issue resolved with latest 4.1.0 and some usage pattern changes. Mod, please close the thread. Thank you!
Since the update, I have definitely experienced worse battery life, especially overnight on standby/idle and also overall when I'm at home on WiFi in general, I have read a few posts about the November security patch causing worse battery on a lot of different phones so I don't know if it is because of that, I just hope either the December patch sorts it, or HMD make the battery optimisation better in the next update patch from them soon, has anyone else noticed worse battery performance since Oreo?
Doesn't seem any different to me ill be honest.
For me it even seems to be a little bit better than on Nougat.
I have stellar battery life all together but standby could be better. The other night I lost 3-4% over night and that is more than the usual 1-2% I'm used to on my phones. Not something to get upset about really but something I've noticed.
No battery drain here, my opinion seems the same good as on nougat to
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Me too. I have a little better battery performance since Oreo.
Although I'm a battery drain. I only have 18 apps allowed to work in background. I have enabled "Clean background activities" in battery menu too.
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Me too. I have a little better battery performance since Oreo.
Although I'm a battery drain. I only have 18 apps allowed to work in background. I have enabled "Clean background activities" in battery menu too.
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Where's the clean background activities?
Can't see it on mine.
Sorry, I'm a Spanish speaker and I made a free translation. I attach you a screenshot. Maybe it can help you to find the menu. It's the first option (Option which is switched on).
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Asos2XZUuAPZnK1E20Hva6npEr2INw
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Where's the clean background activities?
Can't see it on mine.
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Go settings, battery look for background activity manager.
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Go settings, battery look for background activity manager.
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Ok already using that, was looking for some sort of global switch.
All of my apps are in the whitelist and are allowed to do as they please, seems a pointless feature to me.
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All of my apps are in the whitelist and are allowed to do as they please, seems a pointless feature to me.
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Not to me. I don't want the likes of Facebook running all the time. I'll check it when I can be bothered. Otherwise I want it dead dead dead.
mitchst2 said:
Not to me. I don't want the likes of Facebook running all the time. I'll check it when I can be bothered. Otherwise I want it dead dead dead.
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Just turn off notifications for the app you are using, the only app i get notifications from is Gmail everything else can wait.
I was at 8 hours SOT yesterday with 32% battery left, like i said it seem a pointless feature.
dannejanne said:
I have stellar battery life all together but standby could be better. The other night I lost 3-4% over night and that is more than the usual 1-2% I'm used to on my phones. Not something to get upset about really but something I've noticed.
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Battery on oreo is awesome, if you want less energy use during sleep use "naptime" from playstore.
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Just turn off notifications for the app you are using, the only app i get notifications from is Gmail everything else can wait.
I was at 8 hours SOT yesterday with 32% battery left, like i said it seem a pointless feature.
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Not just notifications I don't want Facebook or the likes doing anything in the background so for me useful that way. Not necessarily for battery.
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Not just notifications I don't want Facebook or the likes doing anything in the background so for me useful that way. Not necessarily for battery.
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If they aren't consuming battery what are they doing that is so scary you need to disable them from running in the background? Serious question BTW i am not taking the mic.
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If they aren't consuming battery what are they doing that is so scary you need to disable them from running in the background? Serious question BTW i am not taking the mic.
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The point is I don't need them doing anything in the background, nothing, NADA, zip, no matter what it is they might be doing I don't need it.
The apps I do need are switched on.
This is personal preference buddy.
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The point is I don't need them doing anything in the background, nothing, NADA, zip, no matter what it is they might be doing I don't need it.
The apps I do need are switched on.
This is personal preference buddy.
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Same here, I have most of my apps disabled apart from things that actually need to be running like PingID for work authentication / MS Authenticator / emails and 4 or 5 other things.
Try "data saver" if you have that option in your OREO ROM
Yes I did say DATA saver
Go to Settings - type "data saver" in the search box - switch it on
Works magic for me with a standard OREO ROM and nothing else.
since 8.1 update, battery draining has been worse