With the announcement of the 1-year extended warranty, I went to go replace my battery today at ubreakifix. When I picked it up, the employee gave me the feeling they didn't actually work on my phone but billed Google for the work. Besides the fact that the things he said made me feel like they didn't actually work on it, I noticed when I picked it up the battery was within a few % of when I dropped it off. I'm trying to see if there's a way to check capacity or anything of that sort I can do to verify that my battery was or was not actually replaced.
I appreciate any help.
Your SOT should noticably longer.
New batteries typically have around a 50% charge on them.
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Your SOT should noticably longer.
New batteries typically have around a 50% charge on them.
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It was around 47% when I picked it up but I dropped it off at 53% which I thought was odd. That's good to know the range is correct for a new battery though. The guy was sketchy and made several comments that made me think he didn't actually touch it. I was hoping to check capacity or something to verify the change but I'll use it tomorrow and see how the battery life compares. If I'm still having battery issues, I just wanted to have concrete proof if I went back. He made a point to say "if it's still acting up then you'll just have to call Google and have the device replaced instead".
uoY_redruM said:
It was around 47% when I picked it up but I dropped it off at 53% which I thought was odd. That's good to know the range is correct for a new battery though. The guy was sketchy and made several comments that made me think he didn't actually touch it. I was hoping to check capacity or something to verify the change but I'll use it tomorrow and see how the battery life compares. If I'm still having battery issues, I just wanted to have concrete proof if I went back. He made a point to say "if it's still acting up then you'll just have to call Google and have the device replaced instead".
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I've seen a lot of bad techs. You could always take it to a 3rd party repair if it turns out the battery is still defective.
Maybe he's just shifty acting in appearance only.
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I've seen a lot of bad techs. You could always take it to a 3rd party repair if it turns out the battery is still defective.
Maybe he's just shifty acting in appearance only.
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Yeah hopefully he was just awkward or something lol. I'll see how it plays out the next few days. Hopefully he replaced it. I plan on buying the Pixel 6 Pro but it would be nice for this to hold off until that comes out.
uoY_redruM said:
With the announcement of the 1-year extended warranty, I went to go replace my battery today at ubreakifix. When I picked it up, the employee gave me the feeling they didn't actually work on my phone but billed Google for the work. Besides the fact that the things he said made me feel like they didn't actually work on it, I noticed when I picked it up the battery was within a few % of when I dropped it off. I'm trying to see if there's a way to check capacity or anything of that sort I can do to verify that my battery was or was not actually replaced.
I appreciate any help.
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You can use AccuBattery to check estimated battery capacity. You'll have to go through a few charge cycles to get an accurate estimation.
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You can use AccuBattery to check estimated battery capacity. You'll have to go through a few charge cycles to get an accurate estimation.
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I might give that a try as well. I heard that just estimates but I guess that's better than not having any idea at all. I'm doing the first full charge since I got it so I'll download AccuBattery and run it the next couple days. Thanks for the suggestion.
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I might give that a try as well. I heard that just estimates but I guess that's better than not having any idea at all. I'm doing the first full charge since I got it so I'll download AccuBattery and run it the next couple days. Thanks for the suggestion.
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It's total battery capacity estimates are not accurate. If you had been using it before it's SOT/% history would be useful.
I use it track my battery usage % vs SOT to spot misbehavior.
It's charging time/% history is also useful for monitoring charging. Erratic fast charging is one of the signs of a battery failure.
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I might give that a try as well. I heard that just estimates but I guess that's better than not having any idea at all. I'm doing the first full charge since I got it so I'll download AccuBattery and run it the next couple days. Thanks for the suggestion.
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It's accurate enough to give you an idea if you got a new battery or not.
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It's accurate enough to give you an idea if you got a new battery or not.
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It can be off quit a bit, 10% is typical.
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It can be off quit a bit, 10% is typical.
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It can also be pretty accurate, in my experience.
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It can also be pretty accurate, in my experience.
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It's history is but the actual mAh measurement isn't.
With no calibrated reference of the voltage to mAh ratio it can only do so much. I believe it's measuring voltage drop and calculating current and mAh from that instead of voltage×current.
Whatever the reason(s) it's absolute battery capacity isn't accurate.
I maybe mistaken but even though some power controller chips have current sensing capabilities, Android doesn't use that readout or make it available to any apks.
An Android shortcoming.
A Developer here maybe could or has shed light on this before.
Edit: some brands/models can apparently:
Measuring Device Power | Android Open Source Project
source.android.com
No information on Samsung models that I could easily find.
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It's history is but the actual mAh measurement isn't.
With no calibrated reference of the voltage to mAh ratio it can only do so much. I believe it's measuring voltage drop and calculating current and mAh from that instead of voltage×current.
Whatever the reason(s) it's absolute battery capacity isn't accurate.
I maybe mistaken but even though some power controller chips have current sensing capabilities, Android doesn't use that readout or make it available to any apks.
An Android shortcoming.
A Developer here maybe could or has shed light on this before.
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Like I said, I have found it accurate enough in my experience. New phone is around 100% estimated capacity. Year later, 90% or so. Year later 85% or so. Done this with several phones.
Not here to debate or argue about it. If the OP doesn't want to use it, they don't have to.
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Like I said, I have found it accurate enough in my experience. New phone is around 100% estimated capacity. Year later, 90% or so. Year later 85% or so. Done this with several phones.
Not here to debate or argue about it. If the OP doesn't want to use it, they don't have to.
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That 10% is from the original OEM battery and the replacement. Android it's self lists it at 4100 when it should be 4300 new. Accubattery uses the Android figure unless you change that value.
He'll get a good enough idea if the phone last longer during usage. It should be a noticable improvement... and I hope it is.
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That 10% is from the original OEM battery and the replacement. Android it's self lists it at 4100 when it should be 4300 new. Accubattery uses the Android figure unless you change that value.
He'll get a good enough idea if the phone last longer during usage. It should be a noticable improvement... and I hope it is.
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The battery capacity for this phone is 3,700. Like I said, I'm not here to argue or debate it. You do what you want and the OP will do what they want. So please stop quoting me. Let it go...
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The battery capacity for this phone is 3,700. Like I said, I'm not here to argue or debate it. You do what you want and the OP will do what they want. So please stop quoting me. Let it go...
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Ok
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He'll get a good enough idea if the phone last longer during usage. It should be a noticable improvement... and I hope it is.
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Just reporting back that it was definitely changed. I charged it before bed and decided not to put it in the charger over night to see what happened. I woke up and it was still at 99%.
It's been off the charger since 11pm yesterday, it's 8pm now and I still have 16%.
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Just reporting back that it was definitely changed. I charged it before bed and decided not to put it in the charger over night to see what happened. I woke up and it was still at 99%.
It's been off the charger since 11pm yesterday, it's 8pm now and I still have 16%.
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Good deal
Guess the tech just has a guilty face
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Just reporting back that it was definitely changed. I charged it before bed and decided not to put it in the charger over night to see what happened. I woke up and it was still at 99%.
It's been off the charger since 11pm yesterday, it's 8pm now and I still have 16%.
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Another way to check is with this online tool https://bathist.ef.lc/ Battery Historian. Make sure to charge your phone to full keep on the charger for a bit longer even after 100% If you can do it with the phone powered off that's even better. Turn the device back on take a bug report and upload it to the site. Then look for the "Coulomb charge" value and mouse over it. It will show you how much the device charged in Mah say for example you see 3650 then you divide it by the battery capacity for our device which is 3700. This means your battery health/capacity would be about 98.6%.
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Another way to check is with this online tool https://bathist.ef.lc/ Battery Historian. Make sure to charge your phone to full keep on the charger for a bit longer even after 100% If you can do it with the phone powered off that's even better. Turn the device back on take a bug report and upload it to the site. Then look for the "Coulomb charge" value and mouse over it. It will show you how much the device charged in Mah say for example you see 3650 then you divide it by the battery capacity for our device which is 3700. This means your battery health/capacity would be about 98.6%.
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Assuming that phone has accurate current sensing hardware and it's readout is available. All Androids report voltage relatively accurately... current not as much so.
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Thought I'd share this, i felt this is very significant.
I recently got this in yesterday. Its hard to give a real review since us sprint hero users got a 1500, which a bump to 1800.. it's supposedly a 20% increase for us.
What I noticed is how the battery is now able to handle the drain from wireless tethering.
With the old battery, it got hot super fast when i used the phone for wireless tethering. Now its been about 15 mins, and the phone doesn't feel hot at all with the new battery.
I hope this helps anybody who is on the fence with getting the 1800 maH mugen battery.
Know where we could maybe get a good deal on that battery???
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Know where we could maybe get a good deal on that battery???
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I got it from this site:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen-power-sprint-hero-1800mah-extended-replacement-battery.html
in itself, its a pretty good price, i couldn't find it anywhere else cheaper.
So this battery doesn't require a new battery door?
After 5-7 days post back and let us know how significant the increase of battery life is in daily use. Thanks!
-alex
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I got it from this site:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen-power-sprint-hero-1800mah-extended-replacement-battery.html
in itself, its a pretty good price, i couldn't find it anywhere else cheaper.
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You're right, for under $35 it's not a bad price at all!! Does it fit in the stock battery door?
i ordered thhat battery a long time ago well at least it seems that way, checked tracking and i should be getting it tommorow, if you order it expect 10+days to receive it.......
i got mine in two days ago and the battery life seems worst than my stock battery. when i reset my phone it loses bout 10% just from the restart? right now the battery doesnt even last me a full day without recharging i hope after the 4 or 5 drain cycles it will get better. anyone else experiencing this? plus the battery voltage seems a bit high. i'm at 4.185V. can someone else with this battery confirm there voltage when fully charged?
How does this compare to what Seido offers?
Any one who owns gonna answer the battery door question???? lol. This might go on my christmas list.
no need for new battery door..
as far as the guy having drain problems, I dont have that problem.
I even have things turned on now that I didn't before like always on mobile, all the gps stuff...
it lasts all day.
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no need for new battery door..
as far as the guy having drain problems, I dont have that problem.
I even have things turned on now that I didn't before like always on mobile, all the gps stuff...
it lasts all day.
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Sold, its on its way to me.
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Sold, its on its way to me.
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That makes 3 of us.
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That makes 3 of us.
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Gotta say, I'm primarily buying it because this thing can heat my house when I run WiFi tether!...it's 18 degrees today.
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Gotta say, I'm primarily buying it because this thing can heat my house when I run WiFi tether!...it's 18 degrees today.
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i used it for wifi tether last night.
It gets warm, but not hot like the stock battery.
How does this compare to Seido's offerings?
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How does this compare to Seido's offerings?
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I've not been impressed with Seidio in the past...
I ordered one of these last night. By the time I woke up, I already had tracking info in my inbox. That's a plus.
I figure for $32 and change, it's not going to be the end of the world if it doesn't function better than my OEM battery.
BTW, use the coupon 5OFF2009 for 5% off. Not much but it's something.
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I ordered one of these last night. By the time I woke up, I already had tracking info in my inbox. That's a plus.
I figure for $32 and change, it's not going to be the end of the world if it doesn't function better than my OEM battery.
BTW, use the coupon 5OFF2009 for 5% off. Not much but it's something.
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yeah with only 20% difference, its so hard to tell if it is better than the old one.
They coulda gave me a 1500mah one, and i wouldnt be able to tell.
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They coulda gave me a 1500mah one, and i wouldnt be able to tell.
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haha its funny you say that. i just got this in the mail yesterday, giong through its first power cycle.
go to the market and DL Smart Monitor. i dont think its calibrated correctly to see the true capacity of the battery, it says on 1500mah.
I turn my phone on Airplane mode and unplug at night while I'm sleeping.
BUT! When at work and at home at other times, is it bad to leave it plugged in 100% of the time? (I.E. does it decrease total battery life over a few years to be constantly charging.)
Or is it better to unplug ASAP when it hits 100% and let it drop to 20-30% and recharge-unplug-recharge-unplug etc? (If so, how much of a difference would this make?)
And does it matter USB vs AC source? I know USB is half the amps, so this could have an effect too?
Honestly, the battery is going to deteriorate a bit either way over a year time span. It is probably best if you just replace the battery every year.
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I turn my phone on Airplane mode and unplug at night while I'm sleeping.
BUT! When at work and at home at other times, is it bad to leave it plugged in 100% of the time? (I.E. does it decrease total battery life over a few years to be constantly charging.)
Or is it better to unplug ASAP when it hits 100% and let it drop to 20-30% and recharge-unplug-recharge-unplug etc? (If so, how much of a difference would this make?)
And does it matter USB vs AC source? I know USB is half the amps, so this could have an effect too?
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Doesn't matter. All you need to really be worried about is that you leave it on the charger long enough to get a true 100% charge, and you don't always put it on when at 80%, try and run it down from time to time to 10% type thing.
If you leave it on the charger 24/7 for a year, it will have no real effect on the battery that a year of use wouldn't do, and you might actually come out ahead since battery life times are based on charge cycles... when on charger, as you are asking about, there would be virtually no charge cycles.
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If you leave it on the charger 24/7 for a year, it will have no real effect on the battery that a year of use wouldn't do, and you might actually come out ahead since battery life times are based on charge cycles... when on charger, as you are asking about, there would be virtually no charge cycles.
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Ooooh, interesting... Did not know that. I thought that leaving it charging was the worst case possible.
But let's be honest.
How long do you think you'll keep the phone?
I've never had one more than a year...
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But let's be honest.
How long do you think you'll keep the phone?
I've never had one more than a year...
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Til the Nexus Two comes out bro
[Edit]: Well, my thinking is how BAD could this affect it. Like leaving it plugged in all the time = 50% battery capacity in 4 months type of thing. I guess that is not the case though eh?
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I turn my phone on Airplane mode and unplug at night while I'm sleeping.
BUT! When at work and at home at other times, is it bad to leave it plugged in 100% of the time? (I.E. does it decrease total battery life over a few years to be constantly charging.)
Or is it better to unplug ASAP when it hits 100% and let it drop to 20-30% and recharge-unplug-recharge-unplug etc? (If so, how much of a difference would this make?)
And does it matter USB vs AC source? I know USB is half the amps, so this could have an effect too?
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To add to what pjcforpres said, I would suggest topping off the battery a couple times a day rather than always letting it run down to 20-30% (deep cycling) the battery. Deep cycling is worse for Li-ion batteries. It causes more heat for longer periods of time when you do charge. I would only discharge completely once every few months to keep the battery calibrated.
My personal habit is to top off frequently. If I'm at home, I'll let it charge to a true 100%, like pjc said, then take it off the charger and leave it off till it hits 75-80% and top it off again.
i can add to this discussion what i've learned about lithium-ion batterys
having it plugged in, while it is being taxed heavily (playing games) and already at 100% is a bad idea, then i discharges and recharges all over the time.
When it isn't full and you plug it in to top it off it shouldn't really do any harm, as long as you disconnect it when it's at 100%.
Emptying it completely also lowers overall capacity, 10% is a good threshold when to charge it.
When leaving it off to store it for a while, store it with around 70-75% in the battery. Storing it fully charged also lets capacity down.
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Emptying it completely also lowers overall capacity, 10% is a good threshold when to charge it.
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I thought you WANTED to do this? I've heard calibrating it is running it until it turns OFF?
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I thought you WANTED to do this? I've heard calibrating it is running it until it turns OFF?
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I respectfully disagree with creepinshadow's suggestions. I've read up on lithium ion batteries considerably in the last few years. 10% is not a good threshold to always charge your battery from... that's deep cycling and was great for nickel metal hydride, but isn't good for lithium ion. That said, there's no way for it not to get that low from time to time if you're away from your charger for extended periods and I'm sure it's not going to destroy your battery as fast as one might think.
As for storage, the I charge (or discharge) mine to 40-45% then pop it into the fridge for storage. Read that in a long article explaining how to treat li-ion batteries.
Like you said though, a full discharge for calibration is running it till it turns off then plugging it in while keeping it off until an hour or so after the light turns green.
I've heard many people say that leaving any device that has a battery plugged in won't harm it as long as you're consistant with the charge cycles. Like only plug in your phone when the battery life is >15% and charge it to 100% before unplugging it.
I get into trouble there, because (for instance) say I'm going to be going into the mall for a while and my battery is at 30% and it's going to take me 30 minutes to get the mall (I live in Northern Virginia, traffic is a *****, haha). I'll hook up my phone while I'm in the car just to have extra battery life while I'm away from a charger.
good question, i wanted to know the exact same thing so good to see someone else ask. got the answers i needed.
Look guys... the reality is that this discussion is really just academic. Take my recommendations, for example. It would be ideal if everyone could do what the study I read suggested, but it's not practicable to always top off the battery and not deep cycle the battery frequently. That being said, I'm sure the difference in battery life wouldn't be apparent for a very long time. I can't imagine phone and battery manufacturers haven't thought about this. So...while I've posted my "recommendations" based on that study... just enjoy your phones.
A new battery cost <$50 i'm sure... If you left your phone plugged in over night, every night for a year it probably won't hold a charge better than someone that unplugs in once it reaches 100%..
I personally would rather not deal with always worrying about over charging it and IF i still had the phone when the battery needs to be replaced, just replace it.
In the past 16 months i've had the Touch Pro, Palm Treo Pro, BB Bold & now the N1.. so i never have a phone long enough to even care lol.
I guess that's true. We can always replace the battery, unlike the Fruit people!
But I was just worried that the damage happened quickly. But I guess it's 9-12 months before seeing any real effects anyway.
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A new battery cost <$50 i'm sure... If you left your phone plugged in over night, every night for a year it probably won't hold a charge better than someone that unplugs in once it reaches 100%..
I personally would rather not deal with always worrying about over charging it and IF i still had the phone when the battery needs to be replaced, just replace it.
In the past 16 months i've had the Touch Pro, Palm Treo Pro, BB Bold & now the N1.. so i never have a phone long enough to even care lol.
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Actually, it's only $25 from Google.
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Actually, it's only $25 from Google.
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Link?
I don't see an accessories page at www.google.com/phone
[Edit]: lol nevermind, you have to click "Get your phone" to get accessories haha
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I don't see an accessories page at www.google.com/phone
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Lol... click on the link you posted, click "Get Your Phone" and it's listed right below the Dock!
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Lol... click on the link you posted, click "Get Your Phone" and it's listed right below the Dock!
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Yeah just saw that. Kind of silly to put it there since people looking for accessories already HAVE a phone. Silly Google
Oh, so by the way, this page brings up a good point:
http://www.google.com/support/android/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=175535
Charges at 480mA when installed in Nexus One phone connected to USB, at 980mA when installed in phone connected to charger
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Is there any difference in charging from USB vs AC adapter in terms of how it affects overall battery life?
I am new in HTC phones. I will get my htc one after 2 days, i mainly want to know about battery charging cycles. how can we do that to get maximum battery life. what is mean by battery calibration ? is the battery to be calibrated in every weak ? sorry for my bad english
Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone
Just use it. Charge it when you need to, charge it when you can, top up charge is fine. Calibration is a myth. You don't need to do anything or not do anything abnormal.
Letting it run out and leaving it empty is a bad idea. Charging it, turning it off, charging it, and whatever other voodoo is recommended is a bad idea.
Lol at two contradicting responses.
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Lol at two contradicting responses.
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Personally my thinks about battery is the same of users after my post.
But i wrote this because a lot of people say to do this...
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Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
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is their any special charging methods to be done after getting my new One ??
One charge for a day is enough for htc one if you don't play games
If you really want the most optimum battery life out of your phone then don't let it drain below 30% nor let it reach more than 90%. You'll likely get the most charge cycles and prolonged battery life with that. This suggestion sounds sarcastic but this is scientifically factual.
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If you really want the most optimum battery life out of your phone then don't let it drain below 30% nor let it reach more than 90%. You'll likely get the most charge cycles and prolonged battery life with that. This suggestion sounds sarcastic but this is scientifically factual.
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How many HTC one batteries did you test? Using what methodology?
The only scientific fact is that you just made up those numbers, you have no idea what charge and discharge limits have already been placed on the raw cells by the battery circuitry.
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Personally my thinks about battery is the same of users after my post.
But i wrote this because a lot of people say to do this...
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Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.
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Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.
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I don't use this method.
But my friend have a very good battery life with it.
So, why don't share?
I don't use it because i can't do this, it's simple
HTC One Battery Conditioning
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G'day mate. When I had my HTC Desire, there was a process of conditioning that was advisable which pushed my battery life from 3/4 of a day to a full day. Having just received my HTC One last Friday (and what a magnificent phone it is too but that is a story for another day), I can honestly say that no conditioning is required (after-all, it does have a 2300mAH battery). I would suggest that you make sure that the first time you charge the phone, you leave it on charge for a minimum of 8hrs (as recommended by HTC). I left it on charge all day and I believe it does make a difference. As for making it last long, may I suggest you invest in an App called Juice Defender Ultimate (not very expensive but extremely useful) ? I am using this app and I have improved the battery life of my One from a single day to approx. 2.5 days. But I am an average user (emails, some internet, some music and blinkfeed). I don't watch movies on my phone so I am not too sure how that will affect battery life but I believe it will have some effect.
I hope this helps you with the answers you seek.
It's based on scientific facts.
When your battery has high load(Almost fully charged) more ions inside the battery are stored there hence doing alot of chemical changes in the battery. And chemical change is the only reason why our batteries here are losing it's capacity.
And the reason why I set 30% as the minimum is because you don't want your battery to be drained too much as there's likely chances that you'll completely drain it causing it to be broken also.
And why limit the examples on HTC One batteries? Is this a serious question or just a joke? We all know that HTC One was just released months ago and another obvious fact is it has a non removable battery. So obviously the answer would be none.
And about real life proofs about my usage and how it affects battery life do you want me to show you a nokia 3310 model still up and running for almost a 8 years now? Also want me to show you my nokia n900 which is already about 4 years now and still kicking it's battery perfectly up to now? I could have also showed you my n95 up and running till now if only it didn't break it's flex cable.
There's no such thing as integrated ticking time bomb on your battery(like rumors in the 20th century where they say electronic ICs have a hard coded date where they will totally shut off) where it would just instantly die once it reach it's recharge limit. What manufacturer in their right mind would do that? Smartphone business isn't a monopoly and every competitor would want the best of them all on their products. Also if this myth would have been true most people's device wouldn't even last a year due to plugging your phone on a computer would initiate a charge also. So would that mean that if I plug my phone on my PC 5x a day and charge it once a day it would only last roughly 6months? lol!
Also here's a good website that would backup my claim.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Partial and random charge is fine; does not need full charge; lower voltage limit preferred; keep battery cool.
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Prevent full cycles, apply some charge after a full discharge to keep the protection circuit alive.
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Keep cool, battery lasts longest when operating in mid state-of-charge of 20–80%. Prevent ultra-fast charging and high loads.
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BenPope said:
How many HTC one batteries did you test? Using what methodology?
The only scientific fact is that you just made up those numbers, you have no idea what charge and discharge limits have already been placed on the raw cells by the battery circuitry.
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Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.
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Did you read those websites? Because their numbers and yours don't agree. So either you made up the numbers or you obtained your scientific facts from elsewhere.
As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.
I thinks the powersave is the best route when not playing any games. If you play games then you can call it quits!
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OzBoy08 said:
G'day mate. When I had my HTC Desire, there was a process of conditioning that was advisable which pushed my battery life from 3/4 of a day to a full day. Having just received my HTC One last Friday (and what a magnificent phone it is too but that is a story for another day), I can honestly say that no conditioning is required (after-all, it does have a 2300mAH battery). I would suggest that you make sure that the first time you charge the phone, you leave it on charge for a minimum of 8hrs (as recommended by HTC). I left it on charge all day and I believe it does make a difference. As for making it last long, may I suggest you invest in an App called Juice Defender Ultimate (not very expensive but extremely useful) ? I am using this app and I have improved the battery life of my One from a single day to approx. 2.5 days. But I am an average user (emails, some internet, some music and blinkfeed). I don't watch movies on my phone so I am not too sure how that will affect battery life but I believe it will have some effect.
I hope this helps you with the answers you seek.
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As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.
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thank u so much
milkw33d said:
As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.
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Given that the phone comes with charge in it, how much can you do to affect the first charge?
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Given that the phone comes with charge in it, how much can you do to affect the first charge?
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As much as I know, dont drain the battery too much the first time you take it out the box. All batteries comes with a little charge in it. Had a friend who used to work at a mobile company and I cant remember the term he used to describe that. But the first charge doesnt have to be exactly 8hrs. Phone might be fully charged after 4-6hrs if you hadnt used it much from the box. Just dont unplug it before it reaches 100% on the first charge. Let it get to full and leave it for another 10-15mins and its good to go.
Guich said:
Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone
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I let a cell phone battery get down to zero once. It never worked again.
I did the same with my house cleaning robot. I had to replace the battery after that.....I'm just saying.
anotherfakeusername said:
I let a cell phone battery get down to zero once. It never worked again.
I did the same with my house cleaning robot. I had to replace the battery after that.....I'm just saying.
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Some devices have this problem.
Mine not.
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Hi,
Yesterday i buy new battery for my old lg g2, but i'm not sure is it original.
My New battery is non stepped like this http://tanstartrade.ca/images/LG%20BL-T7.jpg
Do you think that it could be authentic?
Thanks in advance for your help.
I just got replaced battery in service - they told me that they use original LG parts. When I checked it under the cover, it shows manufactured date 6th of January 2016. It is not allowed by antena strips and curved back cover to have thicker battery and thinner would have less capacity. You could probably try but I don't see any benefits in that.
EDIT: After few days of usage I had to get my battery replaced by the old one. May be bad luck with not properly working battery but more probably faik one (runs for 0-10 mins, weird force charging in no OS mode). When they showed me the "new" battery in service it is thinner than the original, does not have the stepped back and thus makes gap between back cover and battery itself - 2mm of medium hard press. So it was like yours - flat design - no additional stepped part. The service was not authorised service but looked legit and had plenty of good reviews. So it's my experience of flat lg battery replacement stated as original.
Be noticed that all of below information are not yet confirmed.
I discovered the difference between original and fake since searching trough forums and own experience. :victory:
Design od LG BL-T7 battery has not changed ever since. Still the only one with the stepped back side. Should look like the battery on right side of these pictures, otherwise it is nor factory replacement (aka fake):
http://i.imgur.com/2Yt8cvDh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hkVpceYh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XtEH5AQh.jpg
The main difference is in litle bulk under printing "BL-T7", arrows under the NOM icon and next right is noticeable differnce in T in that symbol, fonts differ and last letter of chineese behind the manufactured day,...
There is a believe that non-original batteries are not that bad at all, only they have poor wiring and connection port which often makes them behave unexpectedly.
How to calibrate battery after replacement or when needed here.
I replaced my battery recently, they told me that it's not the original one, its a Chinese made but works well. So far, no issue.
Where did you get that one?
iubjaved said:
I replaced my battery recently, they told me that it's not the original one, its a Chinese made but works well. So far, no issue.
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tiguy99 said:
Where did you get that one?
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From Ebay. Bought it from a trusted seller.
Sorry for the late reply, i wasn't around for long.
Thanks. When possible, please pm me the sellers info.
Gonna buy one asap
iubjaved said:
From Ebay. Bought it from a trusted seller.
Sorry for the late reply, i wasn't around for long.
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Thanks. When possible, please pm me the sellers info.
Gonna buy one asap
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-LG-...781964?hash=item51cfceb70c:g:oOEAAOSwv0tVNo12
Note that if you face any issue regarding charging since these batteries are years old, then feel free to contact the seller and you will get a replacement.
I bought that same battery. It had no glue residue and the year was rubbed off.
It looks genuine but I won't be able to tell until my replacement screen arrives and I can install them both at the same time.
I bought a 3950mah high capacity battery from aliexpress (so clearly not geniune but for the money I decided to give it a shot). it works fine, got my Screen on time from 2-3h to 5h or more. However, when charging, it will charge up to 95-99% and then, while still plugged in, go down to 83% and stay there. Then when I unplug it and start using it, it first goes back up to 90-95% before going back down like normal. Has anyone experienced something like this and/or know a way to fix it? I tried some battery calibration methods but no luck. Also, since the phone rarely reaches 100% (indicated) it doesnt always reset the screen on timer properly... this makes it difficult to keep accurate track of its performance. when it does work 5h seems to be the usual value.
That one sounds weird.
Definitely not normal.
Only solution is to buy another and test it or return the one you haveDefinitely and try another one
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I bought a 3950mah high capacity battery from aliexpress (so clearly not geniune but for the money I decided to give it a shot). it works fine, got my Screen on time from 2-3h to 5h or more. However, when charging, it will charge up to 95-99% and then, while still plugged in, go down to 83% and stay there. Then when I unplug it and start using it, it first goes back up to 90-95% before going back down like normal. Has anyone experienced something like this and/or know a way to fix it? I tried some battery calibration methods but no luck. Also, since the phone rarely reaches 100% (indicated) it doesnt always reset the screen on timer properly... this makes it difficult to keep accurate track of its performance. when it does work 5h seems to be the usual value.
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That one sounds weird.
Definitely not normal.
Only solution is to buy another and test it or return the one you haveDefinitely and try another one
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I have contacted the seller but so far they are not replying... I tried the Ampere and 3C Battery monitor the check the voltages and currents while charging. At first, I thought the phone showed the wrong percentage as it was not calibrated for the high capacity (so 80% was actually 120% relative to the standard battery capacity) but it showed that the phone was actually discharging once it reached full charge. Also, my assumption of it being 120% was wrong since the percentage probably comes from the cell voltage. So, next I checked the cell voltage using both ampere and 3C but the values were all over the place, jumping from 4.36 to 4.2 and back. this made no sense. The battery has a top voltage of 4.37 when fully charged so maybe the battery monitoring software of the phone is confused by this?
In any case I will wait for the seller to get back to me and if the problem becomes worse I will get a new battery to test out.
Thanks for the update.
Keep us posted on how it goes.
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I have contacted the seller but so far they are not replying... I tried the Ampere and 3C Battery monitor the check the voltages and currents while charging. At first, I thought the phone showed the wrong percentage as it was not calibrated for the high capacity (so 80% was actually 120% relative to the standard battery capacity) but it showed that the phone was actually discharging once it reached full charge. Also, my assumption of it being 120% was wrong since the percentage probably comes from the cell voltage. So, next I checked the cell voltage using both ampere and 3C but the values were all over the place, jumping from 4.36 to 4.2 and back. this made no sense. The battery has a top voltage of 4.37 when fully charged so maybe the battery monitoring software of the phone is confused by this?
In any case I will wait for the seller to get back to me and if the problem becomes worse I will get a new battery to test out.
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Hello guys, I am looking to buy new battery for my 2 and half years old g2. So here are my options:
1) Pollarcell - they says it's great battery, but still kinda expensive for a non-oem battery. It would cost me about 25e.
2) OEM LG battery - in LG official service, I have to check it they still got them, price was about 30e if I recall correctly.
3) Some random battery - I guess this is lottery.I can get good or I can get bad battery. There are many brands, and their price is from 8-9 to 15e.
OEM is best choice for sure, but I don't feel like investing 1/3 of phone price in battery, especially cause I don't know how long I will keep that phone. Dunno what to do
Edit: Did anyone tried this battery? It has quite high rating
https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32572840069.html#autostay
Beware of Pollarcell batteries I have read cases of burning
Bought my new battery at PhonTrading24 ,
Battery is class and from new production 12/2016 .
fake or original?
I also changed my battery after 3 years at LG service however I have some questions in my mind whether battery is fake or original one. Although new battery has same capacity like old one but it doesn not last like new one ( it lasts almost a day ) Pictures are attached new and old one. What do you think guys?
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I also changed my battery after 3 years at LG service however I have some questions in my mind whether battery is fake or original one. Although new battery has same capacity like old one but it doesn not last like new one ( it lasts almost a day ) Pictures are attached new and old one. What do you think guys?
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It looks like the original one and it might well be. But that also means it is not new, as the production of original batteries have stopped several years back. So what you have is probably an unused but ageing battery.
Batteries start degrading the moment they are produced, just that it degrades at a slower rate being unused (depending on temperature it's stored etc), compared to it being actively used everyday.
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It looks like the original one and it might well be. But that also means it is not new, as the production of original batteries have stopped several years back. So what you have is probably an unused but ageing battery.
Batteries start degrading the moment they are produced, just that it degrades at a slower rate being unused (depending on temperature it's stored etc), compared to it being actively used everyday.
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thanks a lot for the comment. I have been using this battery for a month now and the battery ends after completing one day. As and old production not bad as you said.
Dimensions of original battery BL-T7, taken off from LG G2 : 55.4mm x 66.4 mm x 5.6 mm (thickness in the middle), Weight: 45 G.
Oneplus 3 is an awesome phone no doubt (if you don't damage it). However with the dash charging, there's a high chance we might need replacement batteries for the phone after a year or two.
Does anyone know where we would be able to obtain dash capable batteries for replacement? It would be a great disappointment if we are not able to replace it.
*it is a concern because at least in Singapore, there is 0 support despite purchasing a local set. You will be given an email to make an appointment to bring your set down to a location, but NO ONE will respond to your email. Oneplus Singapore Facebook as well as official reseller do not provide any support either.
Why would Dash Charge wreck the battery? Afterall if anything the phone heats up less than other phones, because the charging is handled by the adapter, not the phone.
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Why would Dash Charge wreck the battery? Afterall if anything the phone heats up less than other phones, because the charging is handled by the adapter, not the phone.
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You have a point there. However, batteries will eventually degrade, so it would be great to be able to do a replacement when the time comes
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You have a point there. However, batteries will eventually degrade, so it would be great to be able to do a replacement when the time comes
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Most damage to a battery is done at night when you charge a phone when you've gone to sleep, as the charger will put it to 100% and keep it there throughout the night, which puts more strain on the battery. (just look into Sony Qnovo battery charging tech in their new phones).
The dash charger has been proven to change people's charging habits. For example I wake up at 7.30am to go to work at 9am, as soon as I wake up I put my phone on charge. Thus meaning it stays at 100% for less time, and so degrades slower.
just keep your battery b/w 40-80% and it's all good
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just keep your battery b/w 40-80% and it's all good
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That's bull**** and bears any real usage
Here you have one: http://www.ebay.de/itm/ONEPLUS-3-TH...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ONEPLUS-3...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
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Here you have one: http://www.ebay.de/itm/ONEPLUS-3-TH...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ONEPLUS-3...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
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Awesome! However, the battery capacity seems to be much lower than 3000mah
Stay away from buying non oem batteries. You don't want your phone to be the next Note 7 lol.
Again you wont need a new battery. It degrade really slow. The problem with fastcharging is heat. Batteries dont like heat. Also charging overnight is bull**** since it stops charging when its 100%. Again it doesnt matter what you do.. If u drain it to 0% its not fully empty so really doesnt matter!
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Again you wont need a new battery. It degrade really slow. The problem with fastcharging is heat. Batteries dont like heat. Also charging overnight is bull**** since it stops charging when its 100%. Again it doesnt matter what you do.. If u drain it to 0% its not fully empty so really doesnt matter!
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Personally I change battery ever 1.5 to 2 years. Batteries have a lifespan and degrade over time. It degrades faster with heat. It's quite disappointing that no one is sellong replacements though.
Demian3112 said:
Also charging overnight is bull**** since it stops charging when its 100%.
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Exactly. The controller stops the current flow at full charge. It will not top it up if you keep it plugged in such as in the overnight scenario.
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Here you have one: http://www.ebay.de/itm/ONEPLUS-3-TH...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ONEPLUS-3...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
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The model number on eBay is BLP607.
You'll need BLP613 for OP3.
Maybe after a longer time there will be more replacements, if there aren't already.
If the OnePlus's battery it good I don't see a need for a replacement personality because I change phone after 2 years, when factory support ends and I'm tired of the phone.
I am pretty sure you can't wait to buy a new one before the battery degrade to an unacceptable level.
Like my OnePlus 1, which still has a quite decent battery time, though it has already become my son's toy.
So, don't worry about this too much.
Majority of the users will replace their phones instead of a degraded battery within 2 years. Unless the battery is defective then yea that would be understandable. If you are one the minority who upgrades every 3+ years then kudos to yall for having the will power to resist the upgrade fever.
is there no one who works at one plus and also uses xda?
that dude can help us in getting batteries from the supplier of one plus.
I am using my xperia ZL since 2013. i changed its battery a while ago. now i feel it is time to change my device. moving on to one plus 3 soon.
I think my OnePlus 3 battery is pretty broaken already. Last me for around 4 houers so i need to recharge it several times a day.
I cant find a original battery, so ill probably have to get a not OEM one
Hilmy said:
I think my OnePlus 3 battery is pretty broaken already. Last me for around 4 houers so i need to recharge it several times a day.
I cant find a original battery, so ill probably have to get a not OEM one
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Strange. Are you on stock ROM?
DBrandon said:
Strange. Are you on stock ROM?
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Yes I am. Android 7.1.1 and Oxygen 4.1.3
AccuBattery says my battery is 87% helathy and on 2611 mAh instead of 3000mAh, but feels like much less