Hey guys,
I'm a longtime Oneplus user (had every phone from the Oneplus One to the 9 Pro). I'm looking to jump onboard the Mi 11 train, but wanted to know a couple things...
1. How is the overall performance compared to the 9 Pro? I'm used to the fluidity of OxygenOS for so long that anything slower will be a pain to get used to.
2. Can the 65W Warp Charger from Oneplus work (at 65W) with Xiaomi's phone?
3. How easy is it to root? I have a few apps that I use regularly that require root.
4. When rooting or fiddling around on the whole, how easy is it to reflash and start again? I know that OP has tools like MSMTool where I can just reflash the entire phone back to stock incase I f*$k everything up. Samsung also has Odin. Is there an equivalent for the Mi 11 Ultra?
bounti said:
Hey guys,
I'm a longtime Oneplus user (had every phone from the Oneplus One to the 9 Pro). I'm looking to jump onboard the Mi 11 train, but wanted to know a couple things...
1. How is the overall performance compared to the 9 Pro? I'm used to the fluidity of OxygenOS for so long that anything slower will be a pain to get used to.
2. Can the 65W Warp Charger from Oneplus work (at 65W) with Xiaomi's phone?
3. How easy is it to root? I have a few apps that I use regularly that require root.
4. It, when rooting or fiddling around on the whole, how easy is it to reflash and start again? I know that OP has tools like MSMTool where I can just reflash the entire phone back to stock incase I f*$k everything up. Samsung also has Odin. Is there an equivalent for the Mi 11 Ultra?
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1. I think miui will be slower. I heard people said that oxygen is almost like stock android, but miui have alot of extra function
2. I think no, different charge technology. Of course, charge will be fast but u will not be at maximum of "warp" things
3. Ez af
4. Ez af, too (miflash)
hungragezone said:
1. I think miui will be slower. I heard people said that oxygen is almost like stock android, but miui have alot of extra function
2. I think no, different charge technology. Of course, charge will be fast but u will not be at maximum of "warp" things
3. Ez af
4. Ez af, too (miflash)
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I am also an user from oneplus by 1 to 8 PRO
Instead the 9 PRO I bought the Mi11 ULTRA.
unfortunately I have to tell you that the 8pro was faster
the oneplus touch is much more instantaneous and so is the fingerprint reader.
However here you have a camera that looks better and for me who love photos it has been determined but if you want speed, responsiveness and a more naked system well stay on oneplus friend
the mi11 ultra has another philosophy
Thanks for the responses guys.
Is the performance night and day? If it's a big difference between them performance-wise, I don't think I can I've with that. I've gotten way too used to the speed and responsiveness of OxygenOS.
Hi, Allow me to join with my experience.
I moved from oneplus 6t to Mi11U, ( i know they are incomparable, but as a software experience, it is same as all oneplus devices), so i'd like to mention the following comments, worth to be considered:
- Animation in oxygen is faster in MIUI, that is where you'll find oxygen faster in general, this can be changed in developer view settings in MIUI under (Drawing section) and changing all animation and duration scales to 0.5 to OFF. and you'll notice the difference.
- Oneplus fingerprint is totally faster than MIUI in everyway. but a split second does not hold me off from a new experience.
- Camera is a matter of taste, and your own choice of photos. Personally, I love MI11U over OP9Pro, but photos of OP9Pro might be more preferable to me.
- MIUI bloatware is annoying for sure (only in CN and EU. versions). I use global (out of the box) Mi11U, which has its own apps, but nothing is annoying and it is really comfortable to use.
- MIUI software in general over oxygen, that is after a very long experience with Oneplus ( over 3 years with 3 devices), compared to MIUI for almost a year now. MIUI is almost bug free, smooth, security and memory manager app is really useful and manges your device very well. compared to oxygen, you'll have minor bugs (not major) all the time that will NEVER be gone, faster updates but most of the time they replace bugs with others. never ending story which is pretty annoying.
i'd like to summarize with the following:
- Device in general : MI11U
- Camera : OP9Pro (with more potentials in MI11U)
- Software speed : OP9Pro out of the box, but I'd say Tie (Possible to improve in MIUI with developer options).
- Fingerprint scanner: OP9Pro by split seconds.
- Software cleanliness and smoothness : Tie (Global MIUI considered)
- Software bug free: MI11U with a huge margin. actually, it completely thrashes Oxygen.
- UI and functions: Mi11U with a huge margin
- General device experience: Mi11U
- Gaming speed and memory management: Mi11U
I was about to check out OP9Pro and then decided lets risk with a change. and I don't regret it.
hassanaliyeh said:
Hi, Allow me to join with my experience.
I moved from oneplus 6t to Mi11U, ( i know they are incomparable, but as a software experience, it is same as all oneplus devices), so i'd like to mention the following comments, worth to be considered:
- Animation in oxygen is faster in MIUI, that is where you'll find oxygen faster in general, this can be changed in developer view settings in MIUI under (Drawing section) and changing all animation and duration scales to 0.5 to OFF. and you'll notice the difference.
- Oneplus fingerprint is totally faster than MIUI in everyway. but a split second does not hold me off from a new experience.
- Camera is a matter of taste, and your own choice of photos. Personally, I love MI11U over OP9Pro, but photos of OP9Pro might be more preferable to me.
- MIUI bloatware is annoying for sure (only in CN and EU. versions). I use global (out of the box) Mi11U, which has its own apps, but nothing is annoying and it is really comfortable to use.
- MIUI software in general over oxygen, that is after a very long experience with Oneplus ( over 3 years with 3 devices), compared to MIUI for almost a year now. MIUI is almost bug free, smooth, security and memory manager app is really useful and manges your device very well. compared to oxygen, you'll have minor bugs (not major) all the time that will NEVER be gone, faster updates but most of the time they replace bugs with others. never ending story which is pretty annoying.
i'd like to summarize with the following:
- Device in general : MI11U
- Camera : OP9Pro (with more potentials in MI11U)
- Software speed : OP9Pro out of the box, but I'd say Tie (Possible to improve in MIUI with developer options).
- Fingerprint scanner: OP9Pro by split seconds.
- Software cleanliness and smoothness : Tie (Global MIUI considered)
- Software bug free: MI11U with a huge margin. actually, it completely thrashes Oxygen.
- UI and functions: Mi11U with a huge margin
- General device experience: Mi11U
- Gaming speed and memory management: Mi11U
I was about to check out OP9Pro and then decided lets risk with a change. and I don't regret it.
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Thanks a hassanaliyeh. You made my decision a lot easier. It's always hard to move to something new, but I think I'll give them a try.
I'm reading however that there a 7 day wait when trying to unlock the phone's bootloader. Is that true? Can someone direct me to an updated guide for rooting and unlocking?
168 hours between starting the process and the actual unlock and format. Just make sure you use latest version of mi-unlock tool from Xiaomi and ensure you have a fully bonded Xiaomi account on your phone and the Xiaomi website or it won't unlock. There is no way around the wait unfortunately and remember to not lock the bootloader unless you are back on original stock ROM branch. If you go Xiaomi EU ROM, the bootloader shows unlocked but the ROM acts as if it is, so no loss of security and no need to root unless there is something specific you need that requires it. Lots of guides for unlocking but just follow the Xiaomi guide on their website.
Sathelp said:
168 hours between starting the process and the actual unlock and format. Just make sure you use latest version of mi-unlock tool from Xiaomi and ensure you have a fully bonded Xiaomi account on your phone and the Xiaomi website or it won't unlock. There is no way around the wait unfortunately and remember to not lock the bootloader unless you are back on original stock ROM branch. If you go Xiaomi EU ROM, the bootloader shows unlocked but the ROM acts as if it is, so no loss of security and no need to root unless there is something specific you need that requires it. Lots of guides for unlocking but just follow the Xiaomi guide on their website.
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Ok understood. I'm buying the 11 Ultra from someone and I just found out the bootloader is already unlocked. Once I wipe and set up my own Xiaomi account, I shouldn't have any worries right? All that should be left to do is just root?
I think so but I've never bought a second hand Xiaomi. Maybe someone who has gone through this process could comment? I would have thought that once you logout or the previous owner logs out, it should just be a matter of formatting data and logging in from scratch with your account?
Before wiping off the device, log out of his mi account first. And better if you create yours and log it in then wipe off.
bounti said:
Ok understood. I'm buying the 11 Ultra from someone and I just found out the bootloader is already unlocked. Once I wipe and set up my own Xiaomi account, I shouldn't have any worries right? All that should be left to do is just root?
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Ha, 99% that your 11U is CN version
There is tiny difference on 5G bands with CN and global, just all
Guys, I'm in desperate need of your help.
So in fiddling around with MiFlash, I attempted to flash the stock Global Rom over, but didn't realize that the 'clean all and lock' option was select. No sure who's genius design choice it was to have that option selected by default, but now my phone is bricked and can't get past the recovery screen
bounti said:
Guys, I'm in desperate need of your help.
So in fiddling around with MiFlash, I attempted to flash the stock Global Rom over, but didn't realize that the 'clean all and lock' option was select. No sure who's genius design choice it was to have that option selected by default, but now my phone is bricked and can't get past the recovery screen
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First of all, I recommend to wait for phones with MediaTek Dimensity 9000 releasing next year Q1, or phones with Qualcomm 8 gen 1 made by TSMC next year Q3Q4(instead of chipsets made by Samsung).
Qualcomm's snapdragon 888 and 8 gen 1 suffers from Samsung's poor manufacturing and have big heating issues and poor performance to energy consumption rate issues.
MediaTek Dimensity 9000 is being made by TMSC, and there will be Qualcomm 8 gen 1 made by TMSC in the later half of next year, and they will have better(lower) power consumption and temperature.
Therefore Mi 11 with snapdragon 888 is not recommended.
However, to answer your question:
1. MiUI's overall performance is not bad, and on par with Oxygen OS.
2.Xiaomi's phone uses USB-PD charging, it's more universal(meaning lots of charger on market and not expensive), and offers higher charging rate. It's a difference protocol than Warp Charging and your 65W Warp Charger will only charge 5W1A on Xiaomi's phone.
3.Ez
4.Ez
I've seen many threads about people asking how to go back to A11 on their phones from A12... in many cases, this should be possible since the BL version hasn't changed on the latest A12 update (versus the previous A11 one).
That said, has anyone taken the update to A12, and are they reasonably happy with it? I imagine it has been a while, so maybe it's not that bad (and maybe there are just a few people who are unhappy with it - complaints often are louder than complements, as we know).
Lastly, is there a way to block the update popup on a stock un-rooted phone? I worry that eventually it will popup and I'll mistakenly click the download button...
I know at least 3 People with Android 12 on Samsung Devices and they say it runs great. Two of them are Galaxy s20FEs with Snapdragon Chipsets and one is an S10e with Exynos.
I've S10+ and A12 works good.
The downgrade is possible, I've already done it to test performance.
It seems that A12 is more conservative to performance, when it's like 40%underbattery I ran Geekbench and obtained much less big scores. On Android 11 it's better, and all the games works ok without the Optimization by Samsung on A12 and One UI 4
Hey heroes of XDA!
I have a question, since watching a video from youtube, making a DIY gaming phone, he used a Mi 9, since the Mi 9 and Mi 9T Pro/K20 Pro has the same CPU and GPU, i wondered if i can overclock it too the same way he did, but since he rooted the phone to overclock it, i have doubts, if i root, overclock it to my heart´s desires, and unroot, does it keep the overclocked values? or does it reset?
here is the link for the youtube video where i saw the idea, and in minute 3:24 he shows how to overclock the CPU, GPU and the display (i know how to overclock)
im actually copying the idea he had, but instead of a Mi 9, im using a Mi 9T Pro/K20 Pro since i already have the device in perfect condition, i know how to root it, but i had to unroot due to safetynet issues that was way out of my knowledge how to fix the problem, thats why im asking if i can unroot it after overclocking the CPU so i dont have to deal with the same issues i had before,
i dont want a custom kernel/firmware or whatever, i want the phone as stock as possible excluding the chip overclock, heat and battery life isnt an issue since im planning to cover the back with a thin layer of copper plate, with a custom phone case (cutting the middle of the case) and im buying the blackshark funcooler 2 pro to take care of the heat, and since i already have a 20k mAH battery pack, power isnt a problem for a whole day outside my house gaming with the phone...
i know this might be a foolish question for some of you, but i dont know, since i never tried rooting then overclocking, then unrooting..
thanks in advance and have a wonderful day/night!
Right now I'm using this phone, specifically K20 Pro Premium (512/12GB). Should I upgrade to recently announced 12T Pro? I prefer customizable phone (like good custom rom support) but with my little research even 11T Pro doesn't have proper custom rom yet beside xiaomi.eu. What are the reason for that and will 12T Pro have the same curse?
zephy93 said:
Right now I'm using this phone, specifically K20 Pro Premium (512/12GB). Should I upgrade to recently announced 12T Pro? I prefer customizable phone (like good custom rom support) but with my little research even 11T Pro doesn't have proper custom rom yet beside xiaomi.eu. What are the reason for that and will 12T Pro have the same curse?
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The price and popularity are surely the brakes on development as well as the A12/A13 restrictions.
There are AOSP roms for the 11t pro but it's stagnating, not sure if it's going to continue (I deleted my RiceDroid thread because the links were deleted).
A lot of developers switch to telegram and no longer publish on XDA.
Currently on a 12 pro no rom except Xiaomi had rom while source code for A12 has been released for 8 months.
I had an 11t pro but disappointed with the autonomy I took the 12 pro and I don't regret since for better performance I have the same autonomy(with less battery), it could be much better but Xiaomi prefers to sell rather than optimize processors.
I also had the Poco F2 pro where we had to launch a crowdfunding to get roms.
To conclude, by buying a 12 t pro you risk waiting a long time to have Aosp roms.
This device looks interesting but what good is a bigger battery on the new soc consumes more than the old one
I don't know if you made a decision yet, but in case you didn't yet (or for anyone else in the same boat) I want to give you my point of view. (Writing this on my T12 Pro)
Untill now there's not even a XDA device page for the T12 or T12 Pro or K50 Ultra (basically T12 with Snapdragon 8+ Gen1). So I don't expect the custom ROM support to be good.
Someone mentioned the long wait for unlocking the bootloader to be a reason but I doubt that's the main one. It seems like none of the recent Xiaomi phones have any really good custom ROMs available. I think MIUI not being the best base to build a custom ROM on could be a big reason for developers to stay away from it.
If you really prioritize good custom ROM support, why not go for a OnePlus or even a Google Pixel (or another brand with good custom ROM support)? I don't know how the ROM development is or will be for the newer phones, but the OnePlus 8T that I switched from had some good ROMs available. I switched mainly because I found a really good offer for it, €650 which I can deduct the tax from, and a free Redmi Pad along with it that I'll sell. If I manage to sell the Redmi Pad for €250 and the 8T for €300 I'll have made €13 on upgrading my phone.
Using the phone I'd say the only thing that's a big difference for me is the bigger screen, bit other phones can do that too (not many with a flat panel though, which I like about the T12 series). The Snapdragon 865 was already powerful enough for anything I threw at it including prolonged COD gaming sessions at highest settings, while staying cooler than the T12 Pro does. (Not that the T12 Pro overheats that much but it definitely does get warmer than the 8T).
The camera on the T12 Pro can produce better results, however for point-and-shoot I think the 8T will produce more consistent results because it's more optimized. Maybe Xiaomi will fix it with software updates but for now this is my experience with it, though I've only had the device for 3 days now so my experience with the newest MIUI is limited. I've already found one bug and multiple gripes with it though.
For me I'll probably use the device for half a year until I can renew my contract and find another deal for a phone that suits me better. For now I don't mind using MIUI; I immediately requested a bootloader unlock though to install the Xiaomi.eu ROM and root. I might also end up installing Pixelify on it if I get tired of MIUI (no experience with Pixelfy yet but seems an interesting alternative to custom ROMs), which would hopefully give me at least somewhat of a stock experience.
If you're happy with your current phone and the only thing you'd like on top is a good custom ROM, I'd say keep it for a while, and maybe try Pixelify to change things up a little.
If you really want another ROM but you're happy with the rest of the device, maybe try to get a similar phone used, preferably Snapdragon 865 or newer, with good ROMs already available. (I'd only buy used if you can pick it up locally and check the device)
If you want or can only buy a new phone, and prioritize custom ROM support, go for a brand that is known to have good custom ROM support.
If a Custom ROM isn't your main priority and you can get a deal like I did, go for it. In my case I can sell it for more than it costed me, maybe even a year down the line.
Hellow everyone,
There is a custom kernel for mi 11?
What u guys recommend to me? I'm having PUBG mobile lag and screen freeze so I have debloated my phone and now I'm up to a custom kernel and a tutorial for oc..
Thanks everyone who helped
You running a custom ROM? Should perform much better than miui. Try Pixel Experience. It will have a better kernel than miui too
If it's got gaming performance drop the screen resolution too.. though lag maybe network as well
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If it's got gaming performance drop the screen resolution too.. though lag maybe network as well
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Hellow, I'm using miui debloated ROM, it improve a lot the performance. I try pixel experience, evolution x A11 and don't like, both have bug that I dislike so I had to uninstall...
Was trying to go for Cr droid but since I had debloated my phone is fine to play games.
Sir, now i want to overclock and uv my phone in konabess, do u know if sd 888 5g is supported? And if it is, by any chance do you know any txt file for mi 11 to share?
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Hellow, I'm using miui debloated ROM, it improve a lot the performance. I try pixel experience, evolution x A11 and don't like, both have bug that I dislike so I had to uninstall...
Was trying to go for Cr droid but since I had debloated my phone is fine to play games.
Sir, now i want to overclock and uv my phone in konabess, do u know if sd 888 5g is supported? And if it is, by any chance do you know any txt file for mi 11 to share?
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Use pixel experience based on Android 12 not 13. It's perfect. Been using it for about 6 months every day.
Though yes konabess is supported with the 888
Sage said:
Use pixel experience based on Android 12 not 13. It's perfect. Been using it for about 6 months every day.
Though yes konabess is supported with the 888
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Nice tip, when I used was the a13 base edition.. i will try the 12 edition.
Talking about konabess my Chipset is the sd 888 5g, and in the konabess icon have the sd888 5g and a denied on top of it... So I wonder if it was not supported. Do u have any file for overclock? Thank u so much.