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I am planning to buy a Zuk Z1 which comes pre-loaded with COS 5.1.1 and still hasn't received COS 13 update; however CM13 is available and pretty stable. Now I'll buy the phone only if it receives CM14 sometime down the road. The phone has a Snapdragon 801. Is there a possibility that it'll receive CM14? I know it's hard to tell for sure but any seasoned people could make some gusses? Any help appreciated.
Personally I wouldn't buy this phone anymore, it's a decent device but you can get better phones for the same amount of money
Hornettt said:
Personally I wouldn't buy this phone anymore, it's a decent device but you can get better phones for the same amount of money
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can u suggest better device at this price range
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I am planning to buy a Zuk Z1 which comes pre-loaded with COS 5.1.1 and still hasn't received COS 13 update; however CM13 is available and pretty stable. Now I'll buy the phone only if it receives CM14 sometime down the road. The phone has a Snapdragon 801. Is there a possibility that it'll receive CM14? I know it's hard to tell for sure but any seasoned people could make some gusses? Any help appreciated.
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If the OnePlus One will get Cm14 then will this phone also get Cm14. Mabye by cyanogenmod official or unofficial.
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If the OnePlus One will get Cm14 then will this phone also get Cm14. Mabye by cyanogenmod official or unofficial.
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The OPO should get CM14. It's backed by a very, very strong developer community. Also, why hasn't ZUK seen the likes of MIUI ported? It's already there for OPO.
I'm a crack flasher, so I love trying out all sorts of ROMs, but I'm inept at 'porting' ROMs.
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Personally I wouldn't buy this phone anymore, it's a decent device but you can get better phones for the same amount of money
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Even I'd love to know about a better phone at this price point.
So zuk z1 will support android 7.0 right??
Sent from my Z1 using Tapatalk
A better phone at this price point may be the the Redmi Note 3 Pro. From what I can see the Redmi has better hardware, faster 64 bit CPU, better screen, cheaper. The ZUK has a better camera, no SD card (bad if you want to flash from SD card or backup to SD card) older CPU but still ok. Front fingerprint scanner is also a plus instead of rear on Redmi. Redmi runs MIUI and CM
If you have had your ZUK Z1 a while are you glad you got this and not the a Redmi note 3?
Right now we can't say anything about COS14 but if the devs at cynogen mod are concerned about this device they might release CM14 for us
but the question is In India during the launch of zuk z1 lenovo claimed that they will provide updates for this device and we did not get a single update up until now
so thankful to the devs at XDA for developing roms and continue the android cycle of this phone
and i hope they do so for Android 7.0
Calm down guys! ?? it will definiely get CM14, unofficial or official.
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A better phone at this price point may be the the Redmi Note 3 Pro. From what I can see the Redmi has better hardware, faster 64 bit CPU, better screen, cheaper. The ZUK has a better camera, no SD card (bad if you want to flash from SD card or backup to SD card) older CPU but still ok. Front fingerprint scanner is also a plus instead of rear on Redmi. Redmi runs MIUI and CM
If you have had your ZUK Z1 a while are you glad you got this and not the a Redmi note 3?
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Dude i own redmi 3 pro and trust me it s not better. It s enough to say that xiaomi locked the bootloaders of their ****ty phones and unlocking bootloader is painful and takes weeks. also roms for redmi 3 are at the level lollipop.
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Calm down guys! ���� it will definiely get CM14, unofficial or official.
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That's very heartening to hear.
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Dude i own redmi 3 pro and trust me it s not better. It s enough to say that xiaomi locked the bootloaders of their ****ty phones and unlocking bootloader is painful and takes weeks. also roms for redmi 3 are at the level lollipop.
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Redmi Note 3 as of today has pretty stable MM ROMs and also official CM13 support.
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That's very heartening to hear.
Redmi Note 3 as of today has pretty stable MM ROMs and also official CM13 support.
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So does zuk which comes with a great panel of 5.5 inch, 64 gb ROM. I haven t found a better phone for 200$. Sure Xiaomi redmi 3 is a good competitor but not the best
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So does zuk which comes with a great panel of 5.5 inch, 64 gb ROM. I haven t found a better phone for 200$. Sure Xiaomi redmi 3 is a good competitor but not the best
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I agree. I have two major concerns:
1. Availability of CM14 on the device. If not official, then unofficial. The unofficial part is a little dodgy because there aren't A LOT of ROMs for the Z1 which are updated on a daily basis. The updates for a device also depend on how popular a device is among the developer community. I can't really say about the Z1.
2. The aging SD 801. How does it compare to the 64 bit 650?
Other than that, spec-wise, the 64GB memory and OIS wins it over the RN3 for me.
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I agree. I have two major concerns:
1. Availability of CM14 on the device. If not official, then unofficial. The unofficial part is a little dodgy because there aren't A LOT of ROMs for the Z1 which are updated on a daily basis. The updates for a device also depend on how popular a device is among the developer community. I can't really say about the Z1.
2. The aging SD 801. How does it compare to the 64 bit 650?
Other than that, spec-wise, the 64GB memory and OIS wins it over the RN3 for me.
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I think from this point is all about preferences. I prefer a large display with a good dpi and colors and 64 Gigs of rom on a marshmallow nuclear rom. Redmi 3 pro is worh it also but i m having it now on spacex rom lolipop waiting to unlock the bootolader
and maybe get a CM rom.
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So does zuk which comes with a great panel of 5.5 inch, 64 gb ROM. I haven t found a better phone for 200$. Sure Xiaomi redmi 3 is a good competitor but not the best
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SO which phones are the best competitor to a ZUK Z1?
Yes bro it will receive cm14 officially from cyanogenmod not from android
I wouldn't recommend the ZUK Z1 to anyone. Btw, typing this from my Z1.
The phone and the hardware is great. It's the crappy Cyanogen that makes the phone trash worthy.
Cyanogen is upto its neck with bugs. I too was excited when I first bought the Z1 but now repent that decision after using for 3 months.
Again, the phone is great. The OS is crap.
Experimental buil 7.0 launched on one plus one ...so wait
"Rumors" answer to the question, hope it's not true:
http://bit.ly/2bXzZ0R
Hey guys,
I am currently using a oneplus 2 but i am pretty impressed by the looks and the egronomics of mi5 not to mention how thin and light weight this device is. Keeping everything simple n straight, I just wanted to ask that is it wise to upgrade to mi 5?
My main priorities in preferred order are battery life, custom rom development, camera and then everything else.
My usage pattern includes a lot of continuous gaming preferably online multiplayers like mini militia and MC4.
On the contrary, I still prefer compact devices with a 5 inch display over a 5.5 inch.
My oneplus 2 is still rocking and I can easily get 2.5-3hrs of SOT with gaming and 4-4.5hrs without it.
Moreover, I wanted to know about the known cons or problems with mi 5 if any as if by any chance buy it, I'll be using it for at least 2yrs. I am just hesitant to buy it because only the 32gb version is available in my region and the phone I am currently using already has 4gb ram and 64gb storage!
I'll be grateful for any helps and suggestions!
Thanks!
Since you are already with one plus I would recommend you upgrade to the OnePlus 3/3T
Mi 5 is a great phone for sure but OP3 is much better for sure also if you are ok with the extra money
I see there is a lot less community development going on as no one seems to be really interested in replying with an reasonable suggestions or help as its been long since I asked for them!
Anyways, I'll still wait for someone to come up until I don't buy some new device!
it is one of the best phones in its class.
well, personally, i dont really like how op3/t looks, and 5.5 is too big for my taste. if you looking for decent camera, performance, and looks, i definetely consider mi5 altho OP3/T is so much better in terms of performance and rom dev as you can see, right now i'm rocking purenexus custom rom on my mi5 and the performance is top notch tho camera still prefer miui based rom. Anyway, these are some points from my usage :
1. Battery life is decent in original MIUI rom, but best at Purenexus rom, beware not all custom rom have great battery life
2. the vibration motor in Mi5 isnt as good as others, even compared to mi4c, i know, its nitpicking, but really for long term use this little thing is quite significant
3. 3GB of RAM arent enough for me at least. if u interested, please consider the 4gb ones
4. fingerprint is not that fast, and the area is quite small
If you really wanna use this phone for at least 2 years, i do think OP3T is your best choice for support. but idk, the kernel source of Mi5 already out, so maybe we'll see better support.
Mi5 is really great device, it is very cheap, and the specs are very impressive. the battery life is very good, here is a picture of my results but note that I don't play games. Custom ROM development is good, not the best nor the worst. I think you should consider waiting a bit more and buy mi6. it will be a little but more expensive but the specs will be much better.
Hey guys
I currently own a Galaxy S8, but I seriously consider buying the Mi Mix 2 once it will be available
I don't really like big overlays, I hate Touchwiz (or Samsung Experience or whatever), but I'm wondering what about MIUI
So I'm asking you guys the question : What do you think about MIUI ? What are its advantages and its drawbacks according to you ? Why would it be better than an other brand's software ?
Thanks !
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Hey guys
I currently own a Galaxy S8, but I seriously consider buying the Mi Mix 2 once it will be available
I don't really like big overlays, I hate Touchwiz (or Samsung Experience or whatever), but I'm wondering what about MIUI
So I'm asking you guys the question : What do you think about MIUI ? What are its advantages and its drawbacks according to you ? Why would it be better than an other brand's software ?
Thanks !
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The only thing I hate about MIUI is notifications (expand with two fingers, cant interact them in lock screen), besides that I like the design and optimizations, If you dont really care about the notifications handling than you will enjoy it.
Note that now Im using an almost stock android custom rom (ViperOS).
Anyone else ?
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Anyone else ?
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At the first I'm in love at MIUI , but in my perspective it's so laggy after learning about RR and custom kernel and tweaking many things I'll not buy devices with no custom development
As far as performance goes, I've always found MIUI to be smoother than custom ROMs. The gap now is almost non-existent, but 4-5 months back MIUI (and EPIC which is a MIUI mod) was quicker. I've never had a phone with a heavy UI like Touchwiz (mostly Nexus/Moto) so I can't really compare.
Even when I used MIUI (EPIC), I didn't use any MIUI apps. The Google/3rd party alternatives are all better.
The only feature that I'm aware of that MIUI has that others don't is Second Space, which allows you to run two separate versions of any app. Maybe others have it and I've never noticed. It might not even be something you'd use anyway. Some nice features are swiping down to hide the nav bar (frees up more space, although I've heard this has been tweaked in MIUI 9, and not for the better) and quick ball in the nav bar (like a basic PIE control). The themes are pretty good too, and there are a lot of them, but they only apply to the MIUI UI and not the apps themselves (unlike substratum on a custom ROM).
If you go with a custom ROM you will gain a lot but you'll also lose those features, and others like MIUI Cloud backup/Find My Device etc. Since you're talking about the Mi Mix 2, it could be months before custom ROMs are useable as a daily driver anyway so you may have to sit on MIUI for a while at least, even assuming that custom ROMs will be possible (highly likely given other Xiaomi devices).
The major disadvantage, as was mentioned, is the crappy notification implementation. Given the amount of notifications some people can get, it might be a mild inconvenience or a huge pain. There are apps that can mitigate this problem though, like Floatify. It also doesn't have ambient/always-on display. You'll be 'stuck' on Nougat too, so any new Oreo features like PIP (Picture-in-picture) and Notification channels likely won't make it to MIUI for a long time. We're only now getting split screen mode which I had almost 18 months ago on the Nexus 6.
I was primed to get the Mi Mix about this time last year but I waited about 6 months for the price to drop (so I could get the 256/6GB model) but also for ROM development to pick up. I'd recommend the same. Even a year later, how many alternatives are there that have a very large screen combined with high-end specs? Barely any that I can think of, barring the S8+ (6.2 inch, 84% screen-to-body ratio), the V30 (6/81.3%) and the Honor Note 9 (6.6 inch, not yet available).
Personally, I'm in love with MIUI since late 2013.
It's just a complete ROM for me, all features I need are just there and once you start using them it's hard to switch to something else.
I tried many ROM's like RR, CM, LOS, Flyme, etc but always revert back after some time. When using MIUI, I just don't need any 3rd party apps unlike on other ROM's where I have to replace almost every single system app to get functions I need or I get used to. Not to mention that nothing beats MIUI battery life, even with the underclocked kernel on custom ROM's can't beat simple battery saving on MIUI. Performance is the same as I noticed in my daily usage between custom ROM and MIUI, just slightly better Antutu scores on MIUI (if numbers mean something to you).
My suggestion is to try MIUI ROM if you have a chance since usage depends from user to user and it would be silly to say which one is better when everyone has different opinion
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The only thing I hate about MIUI is notifications (expand with two fingers, cant interact them in lock screen), besides that I like the design and optimizations, If you dont really care about the notifications handling than you will enjoy it.
Note that now Im using an almost stock android custom rom (ViperOS).
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Fusionist said:
At the first I'm in love at MIUI , but in my perspective it's so laggy after learning about RR and custom kernel and tweaking many things I'll not buy devices with no custom development
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gavin19 said:
As far as performance goes, I've always found MIUI to be smoother than custom ROMs. The gap now is almost non-existent, but 4-5 months back MIUI (and EPIC which is a MIUI mod) was quicker. I've never had a phone with a heavy UI like Touchwiz (mostly Nexus/Moto) so I can't really compare.
Even when I used MIUI (EPIC), I didn't use any MIUI apps. The Google/3rd party alternatives are all better.
The only feature that I'm aware of that MIUI has that others don't is Second Space, which allows you to run two separate versions of any app. Maybe others have it and I've never noticed. It might not even be something you'd use anyway. Some nice features are swiping down to hide the nav bar (frees up more space, although I've heard this has been tweaked in MIUI 9, and not for the better) and quick ball in the nav bar (like a basic PIE control). The themes are pretty good too, and there are a lot of them, but they only apply to the MIUI UI and not the apps themselves (unlike substratum on a custom ROM).
If you go with a custom ROM you will gain a lot but you'll also lose those features, and others like MIUI Cloud backup/Find My Device etc. Since you're talking about the Mi Mix 2, it could be months before custom ROMs are useable as a daily driver anyway so you may have to sit on MIUI for a while at least, even assuming that custom ROMs will be possible (highly likely given other Xiaomi devices).
The major disadvantage, as was mentioned, is the crappy notification implementation. Given the amount of notifications some people can get, it might be a mild inconvenience or a huge pain. There are apps that can mitigate this problem though, like Floatify. It also doesn't have ambient/always-on display. You'll be 'stuck' on Nougat too, so any new Oreo features like PIP (Picture-in-picture) and Notification channels likely won't make it to MIUI for a long time. We're only now getting split screen mode which I had almost 18 months ago on the Nexus 6.
I was primed to get the Mi Mix about this time last year but I waited about 6 months for the price to drop (so I could get the 256/6GB model) but also for ROM development to pick up. I'd recommend the same. Even a year later, how many alternatives are there that have a very large screen combined with high-end specs? Barely any that I can think of, barring the S8+ (6.2 inch, 84% screen-to-body ratio), the V30 (6/81.3%) and the Honor Note 9 (6.6 inch, not yet available).
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Manwex said:
Personally, I'm in love with MIUI since late 2013.
It's just a complete ROM for me, all features I need are just there and once you start using them it's hard to switch to something else.
I tried many ROM's like RR, CM, LOS, Flyme, etc but always revert back after some time. When using MIUI, I just don't need any 3rd party apps unlike on other ROM's where I have to replace almost every single system app to get functions I need or I get used to. Not to mention that nothing beats MIUI battery life, even with the underclocked kernel on custom ROM's can't beat simple battery saving on MIUI. Performance is the same as I noticed in my daily usage between custom ROM and MIUI, just slightly better Antutu scores on MIUI (if numbers mean something to you).
My suggestion is to try MIUI ROM if you have a chance since usage depends from user to user and it would be silly to say which one is better when everyone has different opinion
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Okay guys, thank you very much for giving your opinion !
Hello folks. I've been using Moto X Style for about a 1,5 year and I'm tired. Development is slowing down, the phone is really big (my previous one was LG L90). For some time I was looking for a nice, compact smartphone with good battery and decent price. Redmi 4X seems to fit my needs, but is it worth buying now? As far as I know the longer battery is kept unused, the worst condition it has - is 4X still being produced? How about development - how many LOS version may this phone get yet? How is battery life?
Or are there newer models which could fill my needs? 150mm height is too much for me; I like compact smartphones - otherwise I would get Lenovo P2 - that is a beast. Actually I tought that Sony Xperia XA2 would be nice, but that price...
What do you guys think?
Buy redmi 5
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Buy redmi 5
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As I mentioned, 150mm height is too much. I wish I had more compact smartphone.
Redmi 4x's android version range is 6-8 and thanks to treble we booted android p dev previews. About battery life my SoT records are: RR Luis build nougat 8hr 35min RR Luis build oreo 8h 12min android p dev preview 7h 3min
Project Treble seems promising. I wonder how long Android will keep compatibility with it. How about your opinions, then? Do you like this smartphone? Are you happy with it? Would you buy it again?
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Project Treble seems promising. I wonder how long Android will keep compatibility with it. How about your opinions, then? Do you like this smartphone? Are you happy with it? Would you buy it again?
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My previous phone was zenfone 6 (6 inch display x86 cpu) I was in your situation. It isnt even fit on pocket, lack of development, etc. Redmi 4x seems fine after 6 inch junk. 5 inch display, more custom rom support, Camera is amazing with gcam (miui default cam is fine too), 8 core cpu. Gaming performance is great and also it is cheap. Im definitely happy with redmi 4x
DoctorRzepa said:
Hello folks. I've been using Moto X Style for about a 1,5 year and I'm tired. Development is slowing down, the phone is really big (my previous one was LG L90). For some time I was looking for a nice, compact smartphone with good battery and decent price. Redmi 4X seems to fit my needs, but is it worth buying now? As far as I know the longer battery is kept unused, the worst condition it has - is 4X still being produced? How about development - how many LOS version may this phone get yet? How is battery life?
Or are there newer models which could fill my needs? 150mm height is too much for me; I like compact smartphones - otherwise I would get Lenovo P2 - that is a beast. Actually I tought that Sony Xperia XA2 would be nice, but that price...
What do you guys think?
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If u want to compact phone, santoni is best choice
Redmi 4X has several ROM's even project treble supported ROM's too.
Custom kernels available too.Development is quite good.
I think xiaomi less likely to make 5inch device in future too because as they are releasing newer devices in the range of 5.5 to 5.9 inches. For e.g. Redmi 6 has 5.5 inch display Maybe they produce 5 inch display phone with tight budget in future e.g. Redmi 4A.
I would say at least go for SD 625 device if there is any 5 inch device.
You've mentioned you might go for Lenovo P2 which has 5.5 inch display considering this Redmi 5 would be fine since it has 5.7 inch display and SD 450 and it's better than SD 435 and has same GPU as SD 625.
If there's any xiaomi store out there near by you live then try out newer xiaomi device yourself to get better decision on which device to get.
SD 435 is based on 28nm technology and now almost all new SD chipsets are based on 14nm or lower so it's better to get this devices.
With using only mobile data on Redmi 4X I do need to charge device in evening or night.
With mix usage it lasts 1½ days which translates roughly around 8 hours of sot. On MIUI 8 I used to get around 10hours of sot.
If you buy Redmi 4X now there's very chance that your phone will have white color notification LED.
Do let us know which one you buy
In the end I bought Redmi 4X since it was quite cheap. It fits nice in my hand. I'm not using it as daily yet, but "play" with it now.
Can you suggest me some nice custom roms (with as little bugs as possible)? Or maybe miui is the way to go (global or xiaomi.eu?). I just wish I could deactivate fingerprint scanner (I don't use it, but touching it with finger accidentaly wakes phone) and remove/disable some google apps. I heard root on miui is available on xiaomi.eu version.
First(I am sure you know it) get device's bootloader unlocked, it a quiet hectic process and will take few days.
The custom ROM's I'll recommend you are list below.
I have personally tried all of them and they are pretty good almost bugless, with good battery backup.
I haven't tried any custom kernel so can't say anything about them. If you wish you can try.
All of them are Oreo based.
1. Resurrection Remix OS.
2. DOT OS.
3. Nitrogen OS.
4. Havoc OS.
I recommend the new Xaiomi Mi A2 lite. It´s very handy too.
Watch this video from minute 6 on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4I8eSKFF3w
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First(I am sure you know it) get device's bootloader unlocked, it a quiet hectic process and will take few days.
The custom ROM's I'll recommend you are list below.
I have personally tried all of them and they are pretty good almost bugless, with good battery backup.
I haven't tried any custom kernel so can't say anything about them. If you wish you can try.
All of them are Oreo based.
1. Resurrection Remix OS.
2. DOT OS.
3. Nitrogen OS.
4. Havoc OS.
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Any drawabacks on RR? I heard battery does not last as long on custom as on miui. How about camera and flashlight gestures? Can I set double click on power/volume button to trigger them? Or long click?
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Of course no. Sd 435 is too old for q3 2k18. I think the minimum soc right now is sd636 (redmi note 5, and other phone with that soc). Iam currently using redmi 4x, but I'll trade this phone to a newer xiaomi (I dont have a lot of money, so i'll choose xiaomi)
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Any drawabacks on RR? I heard battery does not last as long on custom as on miui. How about camera and flashlight gestures? Can I set double click on power/volume button to trigger them? Or long click?
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I didn't faced any bugs since my usage was using social media apps,some photo editing apps, calls, camera (gcam) and playing PUBG mobile and clash royale.
I noticed the battery drain faster while playing pubgm in rr than miui so yes it does eat more battery when comparing it to miui. Using custom kernel you may get good battery life.
When using it on 4G LTE the battery was draining fast too and experienced device to go warm.
Yes, you can set camera button as far as I remember.
The last time i used rr was in last two weeks of April and early few days of May.
Last build was released in April and later there's no update made available yet.
I think we'll be looking at directly Android P based rr in next update.
To get latest security patch and Android P experience I moved to DOT OS and it's a good build and it also has all the customization that are available in rr and so does the havoc OS.
In my opinion all custom ROM's doesn't have battery backup like MIUI but it's not bad it's decent.
Flashlight gesture I don't know I didn't tried that but it should be available there.
Currently I am using MIUI 10 Global beta and battery backup is good I get SOT around 8 hours with mix usage but again when using 4G LTE it drops down to 4 or 5 hours of SOT.
Battery saver helps a little bit so it's turned on all the time.
DoctorRzepa said:
In the end I bought Redmi 4X since it was quite cheap. It fits nice in my hand. I'm not using it as daily yet, but "play" with it now.
Can you suggest me some nice custom roms (with as little bugs as possible)? Or maybe miui is the way to go (global or xiaomi.eu?). I just wish I could deactivate fingerprint scanner (I don't use it, but touching it with finger accidentaly wakes phone) and remove/disable some google apps. I heard root on miui is available on xiaomi.eu version.
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I am currently using AOSP EXTENDED. It is smooth and bugless. It's Oreo based.
Use havoc os with phantom kernel (thunder plug hotplug) (alucard governor) you'll be amazed. HAVOC OS > Dot OS in both battery life and performance and fluidity.
10+ SOT
naim.hassan said:
Use havoc os with phantom kernel (thunder plug hotplug) (alucard governor) you'll be amazed. HAVOC OS > Dot OS in both battery life and performance and fluidity.
10+ SOT
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10+ hours of SOT is just fantastic.
I(or rather we) used to had such SOT on MIUI 8.
I'll try this combinations soon in few days, currently on MIUI 10 Global beta 8.8.2.
Does firmware version matter?
Hey guys,
I'm a longtime Oneplus user (had every phone from the Oneplus One to the 9 Pro). I'm looking to jump onboard the Mi 11 train, but wanted to know a couple things...
1. How is the overall performance compared to the 9 Pro? I'm used to the fluidity of OxygenOS for so long that anything slower will be a pain to get used to.
2. Can the 65W Warp Charger from Oneplus work (at 65W) with Xiaomi's phone?
3. How easy is it to root? I have a few apps that I use regularly that require root.
4. When rooting or fiddling around on the whole, how easy is it to reflash and start again? I know that OP has tools like MSMTool where I can just reflash the entire phone back to stock incase I f*$k everything up. Samsung also has Odin. Is there an equivalent for the Mi 11 Ultra?
bounti said:
Hey guys,
I'm a longtime Oneplus user (had every phone from the Oneplus One to the 9 Pro). I'm looking to jump onboard the Mi 11 train, but wanted to know a couple things...
1. How is the overall performance compared to the 9 Pro? I'm used to the fluidity of OxygenOS for so long that anything slower will be a pain to get used to.
2. Can the 65W Warp Charger from Oneplus work (at 65W) with Xiaomi's phone?
3. How easy is it to root? I have a few apps that I use regularly that require root.
4. It, when rooting or fiddling around on the whole, how easy is it to reflash and start again? I know that OP has tools like MSMTool where I can just reflash the entire phone back to stock incase I f*$k everything up. Samsung also has Odin. Is there an equivalent for the Mi 11 Ultra?
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1. I think miui will be slower. I heard people said that oxygen is almost like stock android, but miui have alot of extra function
2. I think no, different charge technology. Of course, charge will be fast but u will not be at maximum of "warp" things
3. Ez af
4. Ez af, too (miflash)
hungragezone said:
1. I think miui will be slower. I heard people said that oxygen is almost like stock android, but miui have alot of extra function
2. I think no, different charge technology. Of course, charge will be fast but u will not be at maximum of "warp" things
3. Ez af
4. Ez af, too (miflash)
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I am also an user from oneplus by 1 to 8 PRO
Instead the 9 PRO I bought the Mi11 ULTRA.
unfortunately I have to tell you that the 8pro was faster
the oneplus touch is much more instantaneous and so is the fingerprint reader.
However here you have a camera that looks better and for me who love photos it has been determined but if you want speed, responsiveness and a more naked system well stay on oneplus friend
the mi11 ultra has another philosophy
Thanks for the responses guys.
Is the performance night and day? If it's a big difference between them performance-wise, I don't think I can I've with that. I've gotten way too used to the speed and responsiveness of OxygenOS.
Hi, Allow me to join with my experience.
I moved from oneplus 6t to Mi11U, ( i know they are incomparable, but as a software experience, it is same as all oneplus devices), so i'd like to mention the following comments, worth to be considered:
- Animation in oxygen is faster in MIUI, that is where you'll find oxygen faster in general, this can be changed in developer view settings in MIUI under (Drawing section) and changing all animation and duration scales to 0.5 to OFF. and you'll notice the difference.
- Oneplus fingerprint is totally faster than MIUI in everyway. but a split second does not hold me off from a new experience.
- Camera is a matter of taste, and your own choice of photos. Personally, I love MI11U over OP9Pro, but photos of OP9Pro might be more preferable to me.
- MIUI bloatware is annoying for sure (only in CN and EU. versions). I use global (out of the box) Mi11U, which has its own apps, but nothing is annoying and it is really comfortable to use.
- MIUI software in general over oxygen, that is after a very long experience with Oneplus ( over 3 years with 3 devices), compared to MIUI for almost a year now. MIUI is almost bug free, smooth, security and memory manager app is really useful and manges your device very well. compared to oxygen, you'll have minor bugs (not major) all the time that will NEVER be gone, faster updates but most of the time they replace bugs with others. never ending story which is pretty annoying.
i'd like to summarize with the following:
- Device in general : MI11U
- Camera : OP9Pro (with more potentials in MI11U)
- Software speed : OP9Pro out of the box, but I'd say Tie (Possible to improve in MIUI with developer options).
- Fingerprint scanner: OP9Pro by split seconds.
- Software cleanliness and smoothness : Tie (Global MIUI considered)
- Software bug free: MI11U with a huge margin. actually, it completely thrashes Oxygen.
- UI and functions: Mi11U with a huge margin
- General device experience: Mi11U
- Gaming speed and memory management: Mi11U
I was about to check out OP9Pro and then decided lets risk with a change. and I don't regret it.
hassanaliyeh said:
Hi, Allow me to join with my experience.
I moved from oneplus 6t to Mi11U, ( i know they are incomparable, but as a software experience, it is same as all oneplus devices), so i'd like to mention the following comments, worth to be considered:
- Animation in oxygen is faster in MIUI, that is where you'll find oxygen faster in general, this can be changed in developer view settings in MIUI under (Drawing section) and changing all animation and duration scales to 0.5 to OFF. and you'll notice the difference.
- Oneplus fingerprint is totally faster than MIUI in everyway. but a split second does not hold me off from a new experience.
- Camera is a matter of taste, and your own choice of photos. Personally, I love MI11U over OP9Pro, but photos of OP9Pro might be more preferable to me.
- MIUI bloatware is annoying for sure (only in CN and EU. versions). I use global (out of the box) Mi11U, which has its own apps, but nothing is annoying and it is really comfortable to use.
- MIUI software in general over oxygen, that is after a very long experience with Oneplus ( over 3 years with 3 devices), compared to MIUI for almost a year now. MIUI is almost bug free, smooth, security and memory manager app is really useful and manges your device very well. compared to oxygen, you'll have minor bugs (not major) all the time that will NEVER be gone, faster updates but most of the time they replace bugs with others. never ending story which is pretty annoying.
i'd like to summarize with the following:
- Device in general : MI11U
- Camera : OP9Pro (with more potentials in MI11U)
- Software speed : OP9Pro out of the box, but I'd say Tie (Possible to improve in MIUI with developer options).
- Fingerprint scanner: OP9Pro by split seconds.
- Software cleanliness and smoothness : Tie (Global MIUI considered)
- Software bug free: MI11U with a huge margin. actually, it completely thrashes Oxygen.
- UI and functions: Mi11U with a huge margin
- General device experience: Mi11U
- Gaming speed and memory management: Mi11U
I was about to check out OP9Pro and then decided lets risk with a change. and I don't regret it.
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Thanks a hassanaliyeh. You made my decision a lot easier. It's always hard to move to something new, but I think I'll give them a try.
I'm reading however that there a 7 day wait when trying to unlock the phone's bootloader. Is that true? Can someone direct me to an updated guide for rooting and unlocking?
168 hours between starting the process and the actual unlock and format. Just make sure you use latest version of mi-unlock tool from Xiaomi and ensure you have a fully bonded Xiaomi account on your phone and the Xiaomi website or it won't unlock. There is no way around the wait unfortunately and remember to not lock the bootloader unless you are back on original stock ROM branch. If you go Xiaomi EU ROM, the bootloader shows unlocked but the ROM acts as if it is, so no loss of security and no need to root unless there is something specific you need that requires it. Lots of guides for unlocking but just follow the Xiaomi guide on their website.
Sathelp said:
168 hours between starting the process and the actual unlock and format. Just make sure you use latest version of mi-unlock tool from Xiaomi and ensure you have a fully bonded Xiaomi account on your phone and the Xiaomi website or it won't unlock. There is no way around the wait unfortunately and remember to not lock the bootloader unless you are back on original stock ROM branch. If you go Xiaomi EU ROM, the bootloader shows unlocked but the ROM acts as if it is, so no loss of security and no need to root unless there is something specific you need that requires it. Lots of guides for unlocking but just follow the Xiaomi guide on their website.
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Ok understood. I'm buying the 11 Ultra from someone and I just found out the bootloader is already unlocked. Once I wipe and set up my own Xiaomi account, I shouldn't have any worries right? All that should be left to do is just root?
I think so but I've never bought a second hand Xiaomi. Maybe someone who has gone through this process could comment? I would have thought that once you logout or the previous owner logs out, it should just be a matter of formatting data and logging in from scratch with your account?
Before wiping off the device, log out of his mi account first. And better if you create yours and log it in then wipe off.
bounti said:
Ok understood. I'm buying the 11 Ultra from someone and I just found out the bootloader is already unlocked. Once I wipe and set up my own Xiaomi account, I shouldn't have any worries right? All that should be left to do is just root?
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Ha, 99% that your 11U is CN version
There is tiny difference on 5G bands with CN and global, just all
Guys, I'm in desperate need of your help.
So in fiddling around with MiFlash, I attempted to flash the stock Global Rom over, but didn't realize that the 'clean all and lock' option was select. No sure who's genius design choice it was to have that option selected by default, but now my phone is bricked and can't get past the recovery screen
bounti said:
Guys, I'm in desperate need of your help.
So in fiddling around with MiFlash, I attempted to flash the stock Global Rom over, but didn't realize that the 'clean all and lock' option was select. No sure who's genius design choice it was to have that option selected by default, but now my phone is bricked and can't get past the recovery screen
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First of all, I recommend to wait for phones with MediaTek Dimensity 9000 releasing next year Q1, or phones with Qualcomm 8 gen 1 made by TSMC next year Q3Q4(instead of chipsets made by Samsung).
Qualcomm's snapdragon 888 and 8 gen 1 suffers from Samsung's poor manufacturing and have big heating issues and poor performance to energy consumption rate issues.
MediaTek Dimensity 9000 is being made by TMSC, and there will be Qualcomm 8 gen 1 made by TMSC in the later half of next year, and they will have better(lower) power consumption and temperature.
Therefore Mi 11 with snapdragon 888 is not recommended.
However, to answer your question:
1. MiUI's overall performance is not bad, and on par with Oxygen OS.
2.Xiaomi's phone uses USB-PD charging, it's more universal(meaning lots of charger on market and not expensive), and offers higher charging rate. It's a difference protocol than Warp Charging and your 65W Warp Charger will only charge 5W1A on Xiaomi's phone.
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