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hi i own a mi 4x as a backup device and currently its on PixelExperience (non-treble) ROM. I have to use the device for several days and i would like to flash a Treble ROM. So i dont have alots of time to test various ROMs. So what im asking is kindly point me some most stable Trebelized ROM. i dont mind its weather 8.1 or 9.0. i wanna use a stable ROM.
Thanks
I hope you are referring to Xiaomi Redmi 4X if so then go for DOT OS 2.4 or HAVOC OS both ROM are based on Android 8.1 are much stable and have decent battery life. (haven't tried them with custom kernel but have learned that they give good battery life with it)
Android Pie based ROMs are quite good too but they do have bugs but can be use as for daily use ROM.
I am currently using official HAVOC OS 2.0 based on Android Pie it does have bugs too but they aren't major ones.
Sorry for the off-topic, Oreo Havoc OS is not on XDA, correct? I've searched and couldn't find it, only Pie version. Is this the Oreo version you mean @metelhammer?
https://sourceforge.net/projects/havoc-os/files/santoni/
Yes, this is the official Havoc OS download link.
Havoc 2.0 is based on Android Pie which is -> Havoc-OS-v2.0-20180903-santoni-Official.
All other old zips are based on Android Oreo.
As for now only first zip is Android Pie and all old builds are Oreo ones.
Later they should be named as Havoc OS 2.0.
Everything clear, thank you for your help!
Do you find Havoc 2.0 stable enough for daily use?
Your welcome ?
Yes, it is quite good for daily use certainly it has bugs but they aren't major ones.
Compared to Android Oreo based Havoc OS it has less customization but that's totally fine considering it is first build.
I am using it since when it released.
Battery life is quite decent not that good, I get around 6 hours of SOT and I haven't tried any kernel with it so it might give good battery backup with it.
On mobile data as usual like all other custom ROMs battery life isn't that good.
ROM is smooth though and can be use as daily driver.
Thank you very much for all the info @metelhammer
I've tried Havoc 2.0 last night, but my microphone didn't work, so I went back to Havoc Oreo, everything fine for now.
I think I'll just wait for a stable enough Pie build, can't wait for it though :highfive:
Microphone didn't worked that's strange, it is working fine here.
No problem I am too waiting for future update, cheers!
I have tried most roms on redmi 4x. My recommendation is Lineage 15/14
Hey guys!
I'm a very recent owner of Mi 9T Pro (less than 24h remaining until unlock becomes available). I'm also a recent consumer (if that's the right word for it) in the custom ROM scene. About a week ago I decided to check out LineageOS 16.0 on my old (Android 4.4.2) phone, and I was blown away by the performance improvement. It really gave my old device a second wind.
So when it comes to my new Mi 9T Pro, the long term strategy is almost certainly to install the official version of LineageOS 17.0 as soon as it becomes available (if at all and boy do I hope it does). However, since the official release might be (as I understand) several months away, it leaves me with a time window to use some other ROM until then. I've checked out LineageOS 16, 17, HavocOS 2.8, 3.0 & Pixel Experience ROM threads in this forum. It appears they all have some or other issues.
And this is where I was hoping to get a suggestion from you guys. What I'm interested in is the most stable ROM currently available for this phone. To be more clear, I'll illustrate what I mean by "stable":
1) Novelty not required.
It doesn't have to be Android 10 necessarily. Stability > novelty.
2) Most commonly used features take precedence.
I would certainly prefer a lag-less UI and no issues with signal reception over working NFC and Bluetooth audio (all 4 issues seem to appear with some regularity in mentioned threads).
Well, that's basically it, I hope you get the gist of it. If not I'll be glad to clarify further.
Just to be clear, I'm really not looking for a perfect solution where there is none. Just the least painful one. MIUI is not an option.
Thank you!
P.S. Sorry if this is a dup. I only managed to find a handful of outdated questions (~2 months old) which had very little engagement to begin with.
I use crDroid 5.8 (5.9 build does not work with global fw &vendor) and all the android 10 ROMs besides LOS 17 have broken NFC and BT .. And los 17 is also not perfect. Slows down after a while. We just have to wait till every K20 Pro / Mi 9T Pro version gets stable MIUI 11. Right now android 10 is not daily drive ready.
I'm using Résurrection Remix with the same build for over 2 month (the last one), and i dont have any bug.
I'm dtarting to have some troubleshootings after 2-3 weeks and it only require to restart to get fixed.
Also i'm not a big user of the phone so at the end of the day there is 70% battery left!
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I use crDroid 5.8 (5.9 build does not work with global fw &vendor) and all the android 10 ROMs besides LOS 17 have broken NFC and BT .. And los 17 is also not perfect. Slows down after a while. We just have to wait till every K20 Pro / Mi 9T Pro version gets stable MIUI 11. Right now android 10 is not daily drive ready.
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First of all, thank you for your input!
But what about Android 9 based ROMs like LOS16, Havoc-OS 2.8, Pixel Experience etc.? Wouldn't they be more stable based on the fact that Android 9 was already out (for quite some time) when K20 Pro was released? And also because the developers have simply had more time to iron out the issues?
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Hey guys!
I'm a very recent owner of Mi 9T Pro (less than 24h remaining until unlock becomes available). I'm also a recent consumer (if that's the right word for it) in the custom ROM scene. About a week ago I decided to check out LineageOS 16.0 on my old (Android 4.4.2) phone, and I was blown away by the performance improvement. It really gave my old device a second wind.
So when it comes to my new Mi 9T Pro, the long term strategy is almost certainly to install the official version of LineageOS 17.0 as soon as it becomes available (if at all and boy do I hope it does). However, since the official release might be (as I understand) several months away, it leaves me with a time window to use some other ROM until then. I've checked out LineageOS 16, 17, HavocOS 2.8, 3.0 & Pixel Experience ROM threads in this forum. It appears they all have some or other issues.
And this is where I was hoping to get a suggestion from you guys. What I'm interested in is the most stable ROM currently available for this phone. To be more clear, I'll illustrate what I mean by "stable":
1) Novelty not required.
It doesn't have to be Android 10 necessarily. Stability > novelty.
2) Most commonly used features take precedence.
I would certainly prefer a lag-less UI and no issues with signal reception over working NFC and Bluetooth audio (all 4 issues seem to appear with some regularity in mentioned threads).
Well, that's basically it, I hope you get the gist of it. If not I'll be glad to clarify further.
Just to be clear, I'm really not looking for a perfect solution where there is none. Just the least painful one. MIUI is not an option.
Thank you!
P.S. Sorry if this is a dup. I only managed to find a handful of outdated questions (~2 months old) which had very little engagement to begin with.
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I have basically tried every rom there is on this forum, and multiple vendors, roms later, i can suggest that EvolutionX, Pixel experience plus (pie are both pretty stable. But they have minor issues. Definitely daily driver material.
But! in my suggestion, if you could stick to a debloated MIUI. It would be hassle free.
Pros for using the stock rom.
Fingerprint sensor works faster
Doesn't break safetynet, so.. google pay support.
widevine L1 in other cases.
And most importantly, the camera functionality doesnt break
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I have basically tried every rom there is on this forum, and multiple vendors, roms later, i can suggest that EvolutionX, Pixel experience plus (pie are both pretty stable. But they have minor issues. Definitely daily driver material.
But! in my suggestion, if you could stick to a debloated MIUI. It would be hassle free.
Pros for using the stock rom.
Fingerprint sensor works faster
Doesn't break safetynet, so.. google pay support.
widevine L1 in other cases.
And most importantly, the camera functionality doesnt break
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Thank you very much for your (somewhat unexpected) suggestion!
To be honest, I hadn't really considered debloating, but I will most certainly look into it. Are there some preferred debloating solutions out there?
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Thank you very much for your (somewhat unexpected) suggestion!
To be honest, I hadn't really considered debloating, but I will most certainly look into it. Are there some preferred debloating solutions out there?
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Follow the steps in the Removing Bloatwares in Locked/Unlocked Bootloader part of the first post in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/k20-pro/how-to/redmi-k20-pro-firmware-10-3-8-0-9-6-13-t3939647
True, MIUI has way faster and better fingerprint recognition than all custom roms. Sadly I hate MIUI look and feel...
If you want to give MIUI a try, install the xiaomi eu ROM, which is pretty clean and without much preinstalled stuff.
Best is not to use the custom ROMs with ALL the features, since those ROMs are more laggy and buggy.
So if custom ROMs, try android 9 based. I will flash android 10 again only after 2-3 builds which use MIUI 11 firmware and vendor, since I do have a global K20 Pro/ Mi 9T Pro and don't want to lose DRM L1 or NFC by flashing IN or CN fw and vendor. Because most android 10 ROMs require MIUI 10 android 10 fw and vendor (and there is no global MIUI 10 android 10 fw & vendor)
So depends after all, how much you hate MIUI.
I flashed a custom ROM because of the following things
clean stock UI
no gapps
better everyday performance
aman2125 said:
I have basically tried every rom there is on this forum, and multiple vendors, roms later, i can suggest that EvolutionX, Pixel experience plus (pie are both pretty stable. But they have minor issues. Definitely daily driver material.
But! in my suggestion, if you could stick to a debloated MIUI. It would be hassle free.
Pros for using the stock rom.
Fingerprint sensor works faster
Doesn't break safetynet, so.. google pay support.
widevine L1 in other cases.
And most importantly, the camera functionality doesnt break
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How to flash Evolution X on Mi 9T pro??? Steps pls everytime i get a black screen
I also suggest evolution x over pixel experience.
But if you unlock bootloader and install magisk here are modules for debloat https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...-debloater-t3821971/post80724849#post80724849 this full&full plus, debloat all even miui launcher and you got phone with pixel launcher .
Baravan Kurdish said:
How to flash Evolution X on Mi 9T pro??? Steps pls everytime i get a black screen
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So.. the simple trick is to flash chinese vendor miui 10.3.16..
Mine in an indian unit.. and flashing any vendor except the chinese one gives me some sort of error or bootloop..
So.. my process is..
1- unlock bootloader
2-flash recovery (orangefox or twrp)
3- boot into revovery
4-wipe system
5- flash vendor
6- flash rom (gapps if necessary)
7- wipe cache
8- reboot
aman2125 said:
So.. the simple trick is to flash chinese vendor miui 10.3.16..
Mine in an indian unit.. and flashing any vendor except the chinese one gives me some sort of error or bootloop..
So.. my process is..
1- unlock bootloader
2-flash recovery (orangefox or twrp)
3- boot into revovery
4-wipe system
5- flash vendor
6- flash rom (gapps if necessary)
7- wipe cache
8- reboot
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So for global what firmware you recommend me to use? And also is dfe needed everytime? If it's possible i want to contact you maybe on telegram if i stuck somwhere, Thanks
Baravan Kurdish said:
So for global what firmware you recommend me to use? And also is dfe needed everytime? If it's possible i want to contact you maybe on telegram if i stuck somwhere, Thanks
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I guess so.. and sorry brother.. i dont use telegram..
I'd suggest you stick to global vendor..
If it doesn't work, then try chinese..
Widevine is not an issue for me.. but you might stream HD content.. so.. look into it..
And i forgot to mention... Always format data before rebooting.. format data is different from wipe data.. keep that in mind..
You should stick to the process.. it should go flawlessly..
aman2125 said:
I guess so.. and sorry brother.. i dont use telegram..
I'd suggest you stick to global vendor..
If it doesn't work, then try chinese..
Widevine is not an issue for me.. but you might stream HD content.. so.. look into it..
And i forgot to mention... Always format data before rebooting.. format data is different from wipe data.. keep that in mind..
You should stick to the process.. it should go flawlessly..
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So when i flash firmware and rom before i restart i should format data? And can you tell me which vendor do i use for global for Q roms and which one for Pie roms that would be helpful
Hello guys, I have a brand new mi9tpro with global rom and even though it works great, i cant stand all the google and mi bloatware so i wanted to flash another rom (miui or non miui)
The question is, do i lose something if a flash a custom rom? Let's say for example some quality on the camera or stuff like that.
I come from samsung where non samsung roms had to use generic drivers and thus the camera quality was horrible in comparison, and I dont want the same happening with this phone now, so i'd only flash a non miui based rom if the quality and functionalities remain exactly the same.
Thanks in advance!
Facuu said:
Hello guys, I have a brand new mi9tpro with global rom and even though it works great, i cant stand all the google and mi bloatware so i wanted to flash another rom (miui or non miui)
The question is, do i lose something if a flash a custom rom? Let's say for example some quality on the camera or stuff like that.
I come from samsung where non samsung roms had to use generic drivers and thus the camera quality was horrible in comparison, and I dont want the same happening with this phone now, so i'd only flash a non miui based rom if the quality and functionalities remain exactly the same.
Thanks in advance!
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My Mi 9T Pro is now under the latest beta from xiaomi.eu. Although it may be similar to stock ROM, I have frozen 69 apps (what you refer as google and bloatware).
I have tried a few smaller custom ROMs and most gave me bootloops probably because I did not install gapps. Why would I want to leave a nicely working xiaomi.eu beta ROM for something else which requires gapps and has more bugs ?
Miui.eu miui custom rom: No downsides.
AOSP based custom rom: Less battery life, instability, worse navigation gestures, most likely bootloops if you do something wrong.
Currently I'd stick to miui.eu until our device stops getting official updates. And even a year or so after that. I am a big fan of AOSP software, but it's just not as good for our device.
This all depends on personal preference and philosophy.
Some people prefer to follow the engineering prime directive: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
You do say the device is working great, so...
The other school follows the concept of: "if it ain't broke, tweak it until it is".
and you do say you can't stand it, so maybe you belong to the second group.
Then clearly a custom rom is the only alternative you have.
Some ROMs are pretty stable and contrary to the opinion of the previous comment, users report equal or better battery life.
The only 3 real complaints I have heard about are a. the fingerprint sensor performance (and even then reports vary widely), b. lack of OTA and problems with dirty flashing, and c. no android auto support.
Camera is same or better with ANX or Gcam.
True, the fact there were 4, now 3, different firmwares and SKUs greatly hurt and slowed down development and testing for this device, and also the timing with the release of Android10,
but some official releases exist and custom ROMs are slowly getting there.
If you really can't stand google, I recommend you to check out LineageOS or SyberiaOS with MicroG.
It will take fiddling, reading online and troubleshooting, but other than time it costs you nothing.
Worst case, you can always go back to Miui.
In another thread an XDA Recognized Developer has a PC program that makes it simple to disable MIUI and Google bloatware. You might want to try that before resorting to flashing a custom ROM.
Despite what people here say I've tried MIUI.EU on previous Xiaomi phones and always found even the supposedly stable builds to be buggy.
REV OS is a much more stable MIUI based ROM. Unlike MIUI.EU the devs for REV OS extensively test every build for bugs before releasing them to users.
I loved REV OS on my MI 9 but have stuck to stock MIUI on my MI 9T Pro so far. I did do some debloating using the program I mentioned.
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If you are new to Xiaomi you should read up on the bootloader unlock process which seems to drive many people crazy.
>Disadvantages of flashing custom rom?
Flashing drivers manually is a major pain in the ass for me. These days OTA from custom ROMs are seemless and automatic. Otherwise it used to be another major problem with it. Another problem might be you might brick your phone. Another major problem is that none of the custom ROMs for this device are perfect and bug free. I am only sticking with MIUI for this specific reason.
jhs39 said:
In another thread an XDA Recognized Developer has a PC program that makes it simple to disable MIUI and Google bloatware. You might want to try that before resorting to flashing a custom ROM.
Despite what people here say I've tried MIUI.EU on previous Xiaomi phones and always found even the supposedly stable builds to be buggy.
REV OS is a much more stable MIUI based ROM. Unlike MIUI.EU the devs for REV OS extensively test every build for bugs before releasing them to users.
I loved REV OS on my MI 9 but have stuck to stock MIUI on my MI 9T Pro so far. I did do some debloating using the program I mentioned.
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If you are new to Xiaomi you should read up on the bootloader unlock process which seems to drive many people crazy.
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I've installed REV Os and it seems a good rom like miui.eu or mi globe or mmx.
No bug with miui stock or custom.
Are you ok to build a rom section in this forum with REV Os?
Lethalben said:
I've installed REV Os and it seems a good rom like miui.eu or mi globe or mmx.
No bug with miui stock or custom.
Are you ok to build a rom section in this forum with REV Os?
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I agree, Revos is a very good stable MIUI ROM. Never found an issue with it, and there default kernel is good (on Pocophone F1).
Lethalben said:
I've installed REV Os and it seems a good rom like miui.eu or mi globe or mmx.
No bug with miui stock or custom.
Are you ok to build a rom section in this forum with REV Os?
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I don't think the devs of REV OS want their ROM on XDA. Many devs soured on XDA and stopped maintaining ROM threads here.
At this point most of the ROMs on XDA are either unofficial or are threads that aren't created, maintained or supported by the Devs actually responsible for the ROMs.
And part of the user agreement for most ROMs that maintain their own website is that you are forbidden from creating any external links for those ROMs.
Guys pls guide me to any Stable bug free Rom for my Mi 9.
need as a daily driver,
thank you.
peace!!
Xiaomi.eu rom miui 12 or miui mix they are miui 12 sure but they are really stable
None is bug free, but all stable ROMs are stable by definition of stable that we have all agreed (which if you don't, find out and read).
leledumbo said:
None is bug free, but all stable ROMs are stable by definition of stable that we have all agreed (which if you don't, find out and read).
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thank you for your reply, by stable i mean, one rom with less bugs, if you ever tried a less buggy rom for mi 9 and used it aa daily driver, pls recommend me one, (9 or 10)
Nambardar said:
thank you for your reply, by stable i mean, one rom with less bugs, if you ever tried a less buggy rom for mi 9 and used it aa daily driver, pls recommend me one, (9 or 10)
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I never really have any stopper with MIUI EU stable, be it 11 or 12. Adjustments might be required, though, as permissions are fundamentally different in MIUI 12, but that's all.
Stock global miui 11 rom is the most stable and error free.
try DerpFest latest release
If you are looking for a flash and forget rom, I highly suggest Paranoid Android or Project 404. Both have amazing battery life and pass Safety net out of the box.
I've been running the Xiaomi.eu 20.3.26 Beta since 3/26 because it's extremely stable and almost entirely bug-free. The only problems I've found in the 5 months I've been running it is that NFC on/off and individual app full-screen toggles are not preserved after a reboot, but I rarely reboot it anyway (I'm running a Crux, so it may not be identical).
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try DerpFest latest release
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many thanks for your advice
Hi all,
My Note 9 warranty ran out the other day, so I flashed lineage on it. Unfortunately Android Auto doesn't seem to work and push notifications (e.g. Signal, Gmail) don't work.
Lineage for the Note 9 is nightly only, so it's no surprise there are issues, but this is my daily driver and need a stable ROM.
Would be grateful if anyone can recommend one or two ROMs that are stable enough that I won't have these issues.
Thinking crdroid or Havoc?
I don't need that much customisation option, just something that's stable and isn't Samsungs crap fest.
@DevBeard
Apparently official LineageOS support for Note 9 has gone bye bye anyway...
Now I'm stuck with the same question.
@TomDex I've just flashed crDroid (Android 11) and so far so good
i'm thinking of trying [ROM][N9][UNOFFICIAL][LineageOS 18.1][31-01-2021] ...
I'd be interested to know your thoughts if you do. The one thing I'm missing, with crDroid 7, is GCam at the moment