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Hey guys. I recently bought a GS6 and I love everything about the phone....except the battery! This is literally a deciding factor for me vs the iPhone 6.
I know it has a quad HD screen but my battery drains WHEN THE SCREEN IS OFF. My provider (T-Mobile) says one reason could be that I used all my data (T-Mobile just slows down your speeds). This can also mean it's constantly searching for a better signal. Sometimes I don't get reception indoors but usually my reception is good.
Now, I would understand if my battery was dropping IF I had the screen on, but it's not. It's dropping a percent every 2-3 minutes.
Anyone have this issue and can combat it? My data plan reloads in two days so I can see if it gets better but if not, I will be switching to an iPhone....
Thanks in advance.
I just found out you can't use an iPhone without a simcard inserted..?? That's ludacris! Can't use it as a camera, mediaphone, mp3 player.. nothing.. they steal your money bro.. literally. Don't get brain washed. i.e. Use aftermarket cables, the phone will catch fire and burn your house down as punishment..
iPhone all the apps are paid, since you may get used to it.. you should download better battery stats in the playstore, and it will pinpoint you to the battery drain.. could be something as simple as some bloat app. i.e. facebook trying to connect and sync and all that stuff, when you have no data. Same problems when just on wifi? Airplane mode + wifi?
perhaps you can try rooting, pingpongroot just came out and will root your s6 without tripping knox so you can reset your phone back to normal if you decide to go to the dark side.
Purpose of android and the Galaxy s6 is you can make it better or worse thru rooting, tinkering etc. . iPhones are straight same robotic, limited, just got 1080p screens, consistent right out of the box.
Tinker bro!!
The battery drain is probably from a couple of problems you can find by looking at the first page of the general section. About going to the iPhone all I have to say is the iPhone 6 had horrible battery life on launch. So if you where a early adopter to the iPhone 6 you probably would be equally disappointed. Once we get android 5.1.1 we should have really good battery life. My s6 already lasts longer than my LG g3 ever did and it had a bigger battery so I'm pretty pumped for 5.1.1.
I get about 10 to 12 hours of medium to heavy use without charging.
I don't use powersaver, have volte off, wifi search off, wifi calling off, and trust agents smart lock (google) off.
This is with auto screen brightness.
I have a Zerolemon 2800mah case with me as well, but I never use it.
ThePagel said:
The battery drain is probably from a couple of problems you can find by looking at the first page of the general section. About going to the iPhone all I have to say is the iPhone 6 had horrible battery life on launch. So if you where a early adopter to the iPhone 6 you probably would be equally disappointed. Once we get android 5.1.1 we should have really good battery life. My s6 already lasts longer than my LG g3 ever did and it had a bigger battery so I'm pretty pumped for 5.1.1.
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I'm disappointed with my S6 battery but love everything else. I came from an S4 that had amazing battery life. I hope 5.1.1 really does fix this issue....
dfg187 said:
I just found out you can't use an iPhone without a simcard inserted..?? That's ludacris! Can't use it as a camera, mediaphone, mp3 player.. nothing.. they steal your money bro.. literally. Don't get brain washed. i.e. Use aftermarket cables, the phone will catch fire and burn your house down as punishment..
iPhone all the apps are paid, since you may get used to it.. you should download better battery stats in the playstore, and it will pinpoint you to the battery drain.. could be something as simple as some bloat app. i.e. facebook trying to connect and sync and all that stuff, when you have no data. Same problems when just on wifi? Airplane mode + wifi?
perhaps you can try rooting, pingpongroot just came out and will root your s6 without tripping knox so you can reset your phone back to normal if you decide to go to the dark side.
Purpose of android and the Galaxy s6 is you can make it better or worse thru rooting, tinkering etc. . iPhones are straight same robotic, limited, just got 1080p screens, consistent right out of the box.
Tinker bro!!
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I'll keep tinkering! I'ma try freezing some apps without root.
xErwinPLx91 said:
I get about 10 to 12 hours of medium to heavy use without charging.
I don't use powersaver, have volte off, wifi search off, wifi calling off, and trust agents smart lock (google) off.
This is with auto screen brightness.
I have a Zerolemon 2800mah case with me as well, but I never use it.
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I'll track how much battery I really get. If I get 4-5 hours SoT I'll be happy. It's just the drain while the screen is off really bothers me.
darklime said:
I'm disappointed with my S6 battery but love everything else. I came from an S4 that had amazing battery life. I hope 5.1.1 really does fix this issue. I'll keep tinkering! I'ma try freezing some apps without root. I'll track how much battery I really get. If I get 4-5 hours SoT I'll be happy. It's just the drain while the screen is off really bothers me.
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Not to sound braggish, but I always get at least 4 hours SOT. Total standby time varies (30-40 hours) depending on how much I use it, but SOT is always between 4-5 hours which is all I expect from a 2550 mAh battery. Battery life during my first week was awful (so bad that I considered selling it) but after rooting, debloating and other tweaks, I am much happier. I am also running Scuk's XtreStoLite Pure Edition rom, which is an extremely lean version of stock with all Samsung bloatware removed. However, I am still on the stock unmodified kernel with no underclocking or other kernel hacks, and I always get at least 30 hours standby. If you want to get serious about better battery life, I recommend flashing a debloated rom. But if you want to stay stock, then use Titanium Backup to freeze the stuff you don't use and Greenify the rest, and your battery life will improve. Just don't expect to set battery life records with the S6, because it will never happen.
I'm not sure why you are losing a percent every 2-3 min when the phone is on standby. I get great battery life on mine. Today I lightly used my phone (A few calls and texts, maybe took 10 pictures and some short videos, browsed the web and YouTube a little) but it was mostly in standby. It has been just short of 12 hours since it was fully charged this morning and it is still at 71%.
Maybe you have a defective battery. Also, and I may have been imagining it, but I think the battery life improved after a week or two of use. Maybe there is a break in period for it.
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Not to sound braggish, but I always get at least 4 hours SOT. Total standby time varies (30-40 hours) depending on how much I use it, but SOT is always between 4-5 hours which is all I expect from a 2550 mAh battery. Battery life during my first week was awful (so bad that I considered selling it) but after rooting, debloating and other tweaks, I am much happier. I am also running Scuk's XtreStoLite Pure Edition rom, which is an extremely lean version of stock with all Samsung bloatware removed. However, I am still on the stock unmodified kernel with no underclocking or other kernel hacks, and I always get at least 30 hours standby. If you want to get serious about better battery life, I recommend flashing a debloated rom. But if you want to stay stock, then use Titanium Backup to freeze the stuff you don't use and Greenify the rest, and your battery life will improve. Just don't expect to set battery life records with the S6, because it will never happen.
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hank you for replying! I do actually want to stay on stock, but I found this neat thread/program from an XDA user that lets you remote bloat so I will try that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
That's the link.
I would actually be very satisfied with 30-40 hours of standby time with 4-5 hours of SoT, which is exactly what I'm trying to achieve. If you may, I just have a couple questions to ask. Do you leave Wifi/data on when you're not using it to receive push emails, etc. throughout the day and do you have the Facebook and Messenger app installed? I noticed if I left them running in the background they sucked up my battery.
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I'm not sure why you are losing a percent every 2-3 min when the phone is on standby. I get great battery life on mine. Today I lightly used my phone (A few calls and texts, maybe took 10 pictures and some short videos, browsed the web and YouTube a little) but it was mostly in standby. It has been just short of 12 hours since it was fully charged this morning and it is still at 71%.
Maybe you have a defective battery. Also, and I may have been imagining it, but I think the battery life improved after a week or two of use. Maybe there is a break in period for it.
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Wow, your battery sounds phenomenal! I had 80% this morning and after 8 hours I'm under 50% already with very light use. =/ I feel it's more like 3%/hour on standby but if I can get it to 1-1.5% every hour with wifi and sync on that would be perfect. Thanks for the reply!
Tagging this thread - I'd be happy to hit 20 hours with 4 hours SOT on this battery - today I got 15 hours standby and 2 hours 20 minutes SOT before having to charge.
Guys, found a really nice debloater tool you can use on stock too!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
I just need to know which ones to remove (or a list of what app does what now so I can remove it)
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Thank you for replying! I do actually want to stay on stock, but I found this neat thread/program from an XDA user that lets you remote bloat so I will try that.
I would actually be very satisfied with 30-40 hours of standby time with 4-5 hours of SoT, which is exactly what I'm trying to achieve. If you may, I just have a couple questions to ask. Do you leave Wifi/data on when you're not using it to receive push emails, etc. throughout the day and do you have the Facebook and Messenger app installed? I noticed if I left them running in the background they sucked up my battery.
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I have wifi and location enabled all the time. BT on while in my car, otherwise BT off.
I don't facebook. FB is a known battery hog. Get rid of those 2 apps and you will probably gain another hour SOT.
Here are my current battery stats, on track for another 40 hrs standby + 5 hrs SOT. Overnight drain 2-3%.
IMO the battery life got better over time.. I noticed a huge drain initially.. but for some reason after about 3 weeks with my s6 it's gotten noticeably better.. Its not the best battery, but it does improve
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Guys, found a really nice debloater tool you can use on stock too!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
I just need to know which ones to remove (or a list of what app does what now so I can remove it)
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It appears that it simply disables the app (unless you're rooted). There's an app you can download to do it easier. Download Package Disabler from the Play Store.
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I have wifi and location enabled all the time. BT on while in my car, otherwise BT off.
I don't facebook. FB is a known battery hog. Get rid of those 2 apps and you will probably gain another hour SOT.
Here are my current battery stats, on track for another 40 hrs standby + 5 hrs SOT. Overnight drain 2-3%.
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So much want
sublimaze said:
I have wifi and location enabled all the time. BT on while in my car, otherwise BT off.
I don't facebook. FB is a known battery hog. Get rid of those 2 apps and you will probably gain another hour SOT.
Here are my current battery stats, on track for another 40 hrs standby + 5 hrs SOT. Overnight drain 2-3%.
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Very impressive. I'll hang on to FB because it isn't showing up in my list of used programs atm but if I see any difference I'll remove it. I lost 4% overnight so that's an improvement.
kill2010 said:
IMO the battery life got better over time.. I noticed a huge drain initially.. but for some reason after about 3 weeks with my s6 it's gotten noticeably better.. Its not the best battery, but it does improve
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I'm not expecting the best battery, but I'm expecting a day and a half of light use due to all these posts I've seen. I'll keep at it and see how it fares.
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It appears that it simply disables the app (unless you're rooted). There's an app you can download to do it easier. Download Package Disabler from the Play Store.
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Yes, I just want to disable it, not remove it because you can't use that space anyways so it's just better to disable it in case you need to re-enable it for an OTA or if you need to return/sell.
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Here are my current battery stats, on track for another 40 hrs standby + 5 hrs SOT.
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Wondering if this is considered decent battery life? This is with very light use of text, data and wifi with email sync. The standby time is great but the on-screen time is meh. I also used airplane mode in areas where I was getting spotty reception during class. I also get the message "No internet connection or server not available" and I feel like a certain app is searching for a connection that could drain the battery more but I'm not sure which app it would be.
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Wondering if this is considered decent battery life? This is with very light use of text, data and wifi with email sync. The standby time is great but the on-screen time is meh. I also used airplane mode in areas where I was getting spotty reception during class. I also get the message "No internet connection or server not available" and I feel like a certain app is searching for a connection that could drain the battery more but I'm not sure which app it would be.
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I'd definitely consider that good battery life. I'd love if mine could reach that.
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Wondering if this is considered decent battery life? This is with very light use of text, data and wifi with email sync. The standby time is great but the on-screen time is meh. I also used airplane mode in areas where I was getting spotty reception during class. I also get the message "No internet connection or server not available" and I feel like a certain app is searching for a connection that could drain the battery more but I'm not sure which app it would be.
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Your standby time is great but your SOT isn't that great. Your email app is using a lot of battery syncing. I recommend using Greenify or Servicely to restrict wakeups.
Your idle drain curve looks a bit steep. Mine is almost flat. How much does it drain overnight?
Facebook and FB Messenger are battery hogs. Delete those and you will probably get another hour SOT.
Good idea using airplane mode in areas where you know you won't get signal. You could use Tasker or Llama to automate switching back & forth.
I can live with this.. Took my phone off the charger early this morning
kill2010 said:
I can live with this.. Took my phone off the charger early this morning
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I wish 9am was early! I unplugged mine at about 0430 this morning. My screen on time is only about an hour and 15 minutes though.
My phone still stays awake too much. One hour is from music during the gym - I'm not sure why the kernel has it staying awake for 6+ hours though
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I wish 9am was early! I unplugged mine at about 0430 this morning. My screen on time is only about an hour and 15 minutes though.
My phone still stays awake too much. One hour is from music during the gym - I'm not sure why the kernel has it staying awake for 6+ hours though
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Yeah that is jacked up. GSam monitor shows your phone has been awake for over 8 hrs, so it is not going into deep sleep. Out of curiosity, install CPU Spy and see what it shows. It should be similar to this:
Granted, I'm only on day 4.. but still..
I've tried disabling LTE, simple watch-face, etc.. but can't get it to live for more then 12 hours without needing a recharge..
Do those of you reaching more then 12 hours use an always on screen? Gestures?
I did do a test overnight and it only dropped 20% (7 hours) - but my typical drop rate is much higher then that with casual use..
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ps - I'm on-track for 12 hours again today, and that's with only having received ~3-4 email notifications which I just quickly dismissed in the past two hours so far..
For those that might be interested in this subject, I also posted it on reddit which seems to be getting much more traffic..
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidWea...ort_watch_how_are_you_guys_getting_more_then/
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I just put mine on charge after 48 hrs with 3% left that is with screen always on off and only turning WiFi on when needed.I'm using mine tethered to my g6 without lte.
Firstly in my case I don't use LTE.
I've found having WiFi and gps switch on has made very little difference to battery life, as it's tethered anyway for this information.
I think the battery life has got better after a couple of weeks usage, and typically a full day has plenty left, nearly 50% on occasions.
Yesterday was a long day, and it managed 20 hours straight through
I usually get around 24 hours. But barely 24 hours (if I do anything except let my watch run idle on my wrist whole day, I don't hit the mark).
Screen always ON
NO SIM (doesn't even work in europe)
Always tethered to the phone
Tilt OFF
Gestures OFF
Location MIXED (decided to experiment a bit, seen no discernible difference in battery drain whether it was ON or OFF)
Watchface: Portions with 4 complications
First couple of hours is sleep tracking with screen turned off (but constant HRM sensor activity), which consumes slightly less than regular operation.
Today I turned always screen off and holy **** what a difference. After 12 hours I'm still at 80%. So the clear culprit of this is the screen. I think I will try to get used to this, it was wasting energy 99% of the time before anyway (I'm not looking it at it all the time).
I end up getting through the day at about 30 to 50% with everything on except for LTE which I toggle on and off during the rare occasions I need it. I usually use brightness 6 during the evening and 8 during the day, I find the auto-brightness too dim on every occasion. On the other hand I've had a few random days where it rapidly used it's battery and I was down to power saving in the afternoon. Havne't figured out what is happening when it occurs but when it happens my phone also rapidly drains. Other than that I wish I could increase the screen on time, it sometimes dims before I've done what I want to do and I feel like I have enough spare bat to burn a little more keeping it on longer.
My Answer, you don't. I leave everything on and charge it, like 3 times a day. I'm lucky because I have two others to swap to during charge, but I even bought a second charger for work when I do not have those available.
I simply do not want to reduce any features of the watch, so I charge it often. That's just what it is if you ask me, you're not going to miraculously get this thing working for 2 days, simple as that. So use it big, and charge it often!
$13.99 the name is: LG Watch Sport Charger, Kissmart Replacement Charger Charging Cradle Dock Adapter for LG Watch Sport Smart Watch
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I end up getting through the day at about 30 to 50% with everything on except for LTE which I toggle on and off during the rare occasions I need it. I usually use brightness 6 during the evening and 8 during the day, I find the auto-brightness too dim on every occasion. On the other hand I've had a few random days where it rapidly used it's battery and I was down to power saving in the afternoon. Havne't figured out what is happening when it occurs but when it happens my phone also rapidly drains. Other than that I wish I could increase the screen on time, it sometimes dims before I've done what I want to do and I feel like I have enough spare bat to burn a little more keeping it on longer.
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Is there a faster way to toggle cellular on and off other than going into settings?
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Not that I know of and for me it's a double downer, when I use the watch standalone I don't need bluetooth. I menu dive to switch both and then revert when I'm done. The radios should be available from the pull down quick settings IMO, it would be enough to have an icon there to open them all and you could toggle those you need from there. Considering the wasted space on that pull down it becomes a bit of a what were they thinking issue...
Hi guys i'm interested about lg watch sport here in europe and i'm willing to buy from ebay korean model. My cuestion is can i use it completly without pairing to phone with sim inside. Can i set it up without cell phone? How about using facebook, viber ( making VOIP calls) email etc... thanks
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Hi guys i'm interested about lg watch sport here in europe and i'm willing to buy from ebay korean model. My cuestion is can i use it completly without pairing to phone with sim inside. Can i set it up without cell phone? How about using facebook, viber ( making VOIP calls) email etc... thanks
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You need to pair with phone initially. It also makes it easier to copy your accounts over to the watch. After you set it up, you don't need your phone anymore BUT if you keep it on cellular the watch isn't going to last.
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Not that I know of and for me it's a double downer, when I use the watch standalone I don't need bluetooth. I menu dive to switch both and then revert when I'm done. The radios should be available from the pull down quick settings IMO, it would be enough to have an icon there to open them all and you could toggle those you need from there. Considering the wasted space on that pull down it becomes a bit of a what were they thinking issue...
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From my time with the watch it appears that having cellular on has little impact on battery life as long as you're within range of your phone. The part that does affect battery life with cellular on is IF you're in an area with just complete sucky cell signal to start off with. (IE my workplace) that will kill battery.
I had battery draining issues at work even with cellular off at work but I figured out that although on my phone when connected to work wifi I can get to the play store on my phone but on my watch it can't get to the playstore or communicate with google. My assumption is the watch is draining because the google play services can't connect/sync with google therefore causing it to stay awake and drain. Watch battery life has been much better when I disable wifi on my phone BUT now my phone drains a little faster because it's not on wifi.
Bluetooth Autoconnect app has been a lifesaver when having watch/phone/BT headset/BT car connected. You can set up profiles and priorities so that the car/headset/headphones take over the call duties so you can hear phone calls through those devices instead of the watch.
I'm still getting used to life having to sift through the menus to disable and enable radios but you're right. There needs to be an easier and faster way.
So i got my S21 Ultra a couple of weeks ago and the battery life isn't as good as people tell it to be... I wonder if this is normal or i have a faulty unit
Important: i am running the latest update on my exynos device (february security patch as of the making of this thread)
What do you expect? You have used the phone almost 12 hours, used Samsung Music for nearly 8 hours and still have 78% battery left lol. This is great.
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What do you expect? You have used the phone almost 12 hours, used Samsung Music for nearly 8 hours and still have 78% battery left lol. This is great.
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The SoT is pretty crap i can only get 5 to 6 hours if i'm lucky, all i do is watch youtube and netflix and nothing else pretty much, and since SoT is pretty important to me idk if i should wait for an update or get another unit
If you are comparing to a Chinese phone, I would agree that the battery life is not great. Before buying S21 Ultra(exynos), I was using Mi 10T pro. It has better battery performance than S21 Ultra. The other thing that I dislike about would be the heat issue on S21 Ultra. Its horrible.
SOT is only one measure of battery life, the battery still depletes when the screen is off, especially if you're doing something like listening to music for 7 hours......
If you saw the YouTube 'battery drain' tests, the majority are in a room, mobile turned off and on WIFI. They are in constant use with minimal ramping/up down of the processor as they only switch apps every hour. These guys achieve up to 9 hours with constant use in optimal conditions.
If you extrapolate out your current usage you're on for 7 hours with 51 hours total, which is very very strong. People would kill for that endurance
At best you can expect 0.5% an hour drain if you aren't using the phone, but that's if you literally leave it overnight and don't touch it. More likely it'll be between 1-2% depending on usage, so if you calculate you've had roughly 10 hours of screen off, that's about 10% battery that isn't being used on screen on time, which equates to roughly an hour of SOT 'missed out on' if you were just to run the device with the screen on for the sake of it.
If you're truly only concerned about SOT, run a day without music in the background and see the improvement. It's a nonsensical thing to do as that's not how you use your phone, but will get you the numbers you want...
You're also using a high end processor and a large screen with a high refresh rate, it's going to use more juice than a mid range or low end phone. If you send that phone back, someone else is going to be very happy when they get it as their replacement
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SOT is only one measure of battery life, the battery still depletes when the screen is off, especially if you're doing something like listening to music for 7 hours......
If you saw the YouTube 'battery drain' tests, the majority are in a room, mobile turned off and on WIFI. They are in constant use with minimal ramping/up down of the processor as they only switch apps every hour. These guys achieve up to 9 hours with constant use in optimal conditions.
If you extrapolate out your current usage you're on for 7 hours with 51 hours total, which is very very strong. People would kill for that endurance
At best you can expect 0.5% an hour drain if you aren't using the phone, but that's if you literally leave it overnight and don't touch it. More likely it'll be between 1-2% depending on usage, so if you calculate you've had roughly 10 hours of screen off, that's about 10% battery that isn't being used on screen on time, which equates to roughly an hour of SOT 'missed out on' if you were just to run the device with the screen on for the sake of it.
If you're truly only concerned about SOT, run a day without music in the background and see the improvement. It's a nonsensical thing to do as that's not how you use your phone, but will get you the numbers you want...
You're also using a high end processor and a large screen with a high refresh rate, it's going to use more juice than a mid range or low end phone. If you send that phone back, someone else is going to be very happy when they get it as their replacement
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With my s21 ultta i can easily achieve 10-12hours of sot with browsjng and youtube on wlan with total runtime of 48hours.on mobile data its a good 35% less (also cause of brighter screen outdoors) but Overall its good battery life for me (note im debloated and using Samsung browser with darkmode!!)
I'm doing OK on the battery. Turned off goggle discover on side screen has helped aswell as 5g disabled as I don't have it where I live atm
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With my s21 ultta i can easily achieve 10-12hours of sot with browsjng and youtube on wlan with total runtime of 48hours.on mobile data its a good 35% less (also cause of brighter screen outdoors) but Overall its good battery life for me (note im debloated and using Samsung browser with darkmode!!)
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Ive attached a screenshot. Note this was 90% with wlan
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Ive attached a screenshot. Note this was 90% with wlan
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What have you done other than debloat and Samsung browser?
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What have you done other than debloat and Samsung browser?
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Nothing running 60hz and wqhd (on my phone fhd and wqhd doesnt made a different more that 2-4% so....)
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Nothing running 60hz and wqhd (on my phone fhd and wqhd doesnt made a different more that 2-4% so....)
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Yea it'll be the 60hz getting you through then, makes sense
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Yea it'll be the 60hz getting you through then, makes sense
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Yes if you want the same smoothness and a good 10% better battery you can use the 96hz mod
Put brightness on manual. The display eats a lot of the battery. Try to keep it at 50% or less.
Turn off all animations and use dark mode/dark wallpapers. Junk like tic-tok, fb don't help.
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Put brightness on manual. The display eats a lot of the battery. Try to keep it at 50% or less.
Turn off all animations and use dark mode/dark wallpapers. Junk like tic-tok, fb don't help.
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Im using automatic brightness. Yes only using instagram, fb in the browser cause zhose notifications are annoing...
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Im using automatic brightness. Yes only using instagram, fb in the browser cause zhose notifications are annoing...
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Fb is malware, I don't care who or what's on it, it's off limits. Instagram... no way.
Tweeter just as bad as fb. Full boycott on all that junk until they f-f-fade away
Been using manual brightness control for over a year on my 10+. Occasionally I toggle it on but rarely. Going full brightness will greatly reduce OLEDs finite lifespan. Blue goes first... and the burnout isn't even. If I can get 5 years with just a battery change or two, I want it.
So far between Samsung's and Android's weak offerings I have zero incentive to upgrade hardware or firmware
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Fb is malware, I don't care who or what's on it, it's off limits. Instagram... no way.
Tweeter just as bad as fb. Full boycott on all that junk until they f-f-fade away
Been using manual brightness control for over a year on my 10+. Occasionally I toggle it on but rarely. Going full brightness will greatly reduce OLEDs finite lifespan. Blue goes first... and the burnout isn't even. If I can get 5 years with just a battery change or two, I want it.
So far between Samsung's and Android's weak offerings I have zero incentive to upgrade hardware or firmware
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Yes but if you are using them in tge browser they cant suck your battery up and im only using them for roughly 10minutes a day so no problem. But youre right they are like malware... Traking your location every few minutes and that ****
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Yes but if you are using them in tge browser they cant suck your battery up and im only using them for roughly 10minutes a day so no problem. But youre right they are like malware... Traking your location every few minutes and that ****
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I do 20-30% charges throughout the day.
Crap like Twitter and fb can cost you your job as well as privacy leading you open to attacks of all kinds. Zero rewards and lots of risk. No.
Remember the night of the long knives?
Think how much easier it be to do now...
Has there been testing on the battery effect of different wireless network modes, including while being connected to Wi-Fi?
I understand that 5G uses more battery, but I'm curious how that is affected when you remain connected to Wi-Fi for all data transfers (using 5G just for calls and texts).
Same question for the other network modes, like LTE/3G/2G vs LTE/2G etc. Or also when you are not connected to Wi-Fi.
I can't help worry that some people are getting bad battery life because they have a poor network signal?
Only rough but very little difference between 4g and WiFi when still, and that's in a location with 2 bars signal. Seems like the phone sleeps better with mobile data on.
It's hard to make a direct comparison with WiFi Vs network, as a lot of the network drain is when moving and polling for new antenna. When looking at signal strength, 4g/5g have the same dBm and 3g/2g have the same dBm, but 4g needs less dBm for a higher transfer rate than 3g, so may use less power over time.
Also I don't think 5g is inherently more power hungry than 4g (I may be wrong), again it's just less available and shorter radio waves, and until now 5g has relied on external modems.
Exactly, I wonder if our S21 Ultra is much better with battery life on 5G, because our SoC includes the 5G modem and it's not external?
My desire is to just keep my phone on 5G while I'm at home idle and the phone is connected to home Wi-Fi. I wonder if there is a battery savings to be had if I switch to LTE while I'm at home on Wi-Fi and the phone is just idle.
Hi everyone,
I got my new S20 FE just a few days ago, and I'm still getting used to it, but I wonder if having to charge the battery every day on average is "normal" or not.
When I plug the phone into the charger, the battery is never flat. Rather, it's hovering at around 30%, and I usually stop charging when it reaches 85 to 90%. I use the 15W (?) charger that was in the box, so no ultra-quick charge for this one.
I tried to plug it into a Xiaomi/Poco 33W charger for a few minutes, just to see if it would speed things up, but the remaining charging time was the same as with the regular charger so I reverted to it, just to be on the safe side.
Still, I wonder if it's normal to have to recharge the phone every day, when my Poco X3 Pro needed to be charged every two days on average. Granted, the Poco has a bigger battery, but it has an LCD screen instead of an AMOLED.
I spend a lot of time on Twitter, especially in the evening, mostly, but that's it. No gaming of any kind.
What say you?
try this https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/galaxy-s20-series/s20fe-battery/td-p/2988440
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try this https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/galaxy-s20-series/s20fe-battery/td-p/2988440
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Hi,
I've turned Auto brightness off. I'll tell you if it changes anything in terms of battery life. I've also set AOD to fixed brightness instead of auto.
Thanks for the tip!
No problem, thank you for the question!
I think that debloating is not a bad idea, also try to go to all individual apps settings and set the battery to Restricted, except mail and messaging apps, so they won't drain the battery when you're not using them. Lowering the screen refresh rate also helps a bit, as well as restricting mobile data to 4G only, if you don't need 5G. Also, you can limit processor speed, turn Adaptive battery on and Enhanced processing off.
Hi again!
I've changed network settings to 4G and below since my SIM doesn't give me access to 5G yet, but battery life was still iffy. I then changed the network settings to something called "GLOBAL", and it's a bit better, though I don't know what that setting does exactly.
It also depends on how much your using your phone, what apps your running (games vs non-games, etc).
For example, I've played some games, but mainly have been on the internet via apps like social media, email, web browser.
I'm currently at 55% And it's been over 24 hours since I last fully charged it. The Battery graph says based on how I've been using the phone that I still have about 1d 3h left.
I do usually charge once a day, but it's definitely more than 24 hours after the last charge. I went to bed last night with over 62% left after having charged it probably 12 hours prior. When I woke up this morning, it was done to 59% and since then, is now at 55%.
So I've been pretty pleased with the battery life for me. Whether that's good or bad, I have no idea but it's definitely better than my last phone.
I don't do games on my phone (in fact, I don't do games at all, period), but I think the AOD being set on automatic lighting could have something to do with my relatively poor battery life. I'll try to set it to a fixed brightness and see if it changes things, though the brightness scale is pretty rudimentary. Maybe the light sensor is turned off when automatic brightness is off.
I usually spend more time on Twitter when I'm on the phone, so this could explain that.
Another possible factor is my application launcher: I use Microsoft Launcher, which I adore, but every time I wake up the screen, it does a position fix to update the weather widget. That could also explain why my battery drains faster than I expected.
I've just set AOD to fixed brightness. I'll tell you if it helps or not. Thanks for your input anyway!
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I don't do games on my phone (in fact, I don't do games at all, period), but I think the AOD being set on automatic lighting could have something to do with my relatively poor battery life. I'll try to set it to a fixed brightness and see if it changes things, though the brightness scale is pretty rudimentary. Maybe the light sensor is turned off when automatic brightness is off.
I usually spend more time on Twitter when I'm on the phone, so this could explain that.
Another possible factor is my application launcher: I use Microsoft Launcher, which I adore, but every time I wake up the screen, it does a position fix to update the weather widget. That could also explain why my battery drains faster than I expected.
I've just set AOD to fixed brightness. I'll tell you if it helps or not. Thanks for your input anyway!
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I used to use Microsoft Launcher, but then switched to Nova launcher. However, since getting this phone, I've moved to OneUI and I'm loving it. I haven't really changed anything. AOD is set to whatever it was out of the box and I've been on Twitter and the web since I last posted and I'm currently at 53%.
I think I have seen MS Launcher be a battery hog if I remember. Nova isn't as bad, but OneUI seems to work great.
Also, the number and type of widgets you have installed could also cause battery drain. For me, I only have one screen. I use smart widgets to "stack" widgets I need which are calendar, weather (from WeatherBug), Brave Search, PowerAmp (for music) and then the phone maintenance widget. So far, battery life is pretty good like I've said.
You can also go into Settings->Battery and Device Care and maybe check in there to see what might be eating up your battery the most.
I like the look and feel of MS Launcher, compared to others (I believe I've tried them all over the years...), even if I have to admit Nova is a close second. MS Launcher is a possible culprit, obviously. I may switch back to One UI to check how things are going, I don't know.
I've just topped-off the battery, and just idling, the phone is supposed to last over 2 days until the next charge, but I know it won't last that long.
So I got my phone used (only 2 months, still has back poly attached) and it came with august 1 update and the battery drain on it is abysmal. I can see the battery go down while I'm browsing insta or whatever, not even gaming. You know what instantly fixed it? Downclocking my gpu and cpu using FKM. But this is not a pretty solution as it requires root and I would like to experience stock without root for a bit.
Which makes me think the system isn't properly downclocking the soc when idle leading to increased drain. I would like to know if anyone has a better fix than just disabling all the options on your phone.
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So I got my phone used (only 2 months, still has back poly attached) and it came with august 1 update and the battery drain on it is abysmal. I can see the battery go down while I'm browsing insta or whatever, not even gaming. You know what instantly fixed it? Downclocking my gpu and cpu using FKM. But this is not a pretty solution as it requires root and I would like to experience stock without root for a bit.
Which makes me think the system isn't properly downclocking the soc when idle leading to increased drain. I would like to know if anyone has a better fix than just disabling all the options on your phone.
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Well, considering it's used (was it refurbished or did you purchase it off eBay or some other market)? That might be why it was being sold. You said 2 months. Does that mean it was only used for 2 months or you've had it for 2 months? If the phone itself is only 2 months old, who knows how the previous owner used the phone.
Did you do a factory reset when you got it to ensure it was back to stock settings? If so, then it might be your battery is bad and could be the reason it was sold/returned by the previous owner. If you haven't factory reset it, that is possibly the only other option that I can think of if you've already rooted and downclocked it.
Mine was new when I got it a few weeks ago and the battery lasts 1.5 days for me, even with the refresh rate set to 120 Hz. And that's with moderate use (playing games a bit, browsing the web, texting, phone calls).
You might want to try setting your screen refresh to 60 Hz to see if that helps as well if you haven't done that yet.
Go to Settings->Display->Motion Smoothness and select "Standard" to set it to 60 Hz refresh. That will save some battery as well.
See if that helps as well. If not, and as I stated, if you haven't done a factory reset, that might be your only other option unless someone else has something I haven't thought of.
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Well, considering it's used (was it refurbished or did you purchase it off eBay or some other market)? That might be why it was being sold. You said 2 months. Does that mean it was only used for 2 months or you've had it for 2 months? If the phone itself is only 2 months old, who knows how the previous owner used the phone.
Did you do a factory reset when you got it to ensure it was back to stock settings? If so, then it might be your battery is bad and could be the reason it was sold/returned by the previous owner. If you haven't factory reset it, that is possibly the only other option that I can think of if you've already rooted and downclocked it.
Mine was new when I got it a few weeks ago and the battery lasts 1.5 days for me, even with the refresh rate set to 120 Hz. And that's with moderate use (playing games a bit, browsing the web, texting, phone calls).
You might want to try setting your screen refresh to 60 Hz to see if that helps as well if you haven't done that yet.
Go to Settings->Display->Motion Smoothness and select "Standard" to set it to 60 Hz refresh. That will save some battery as well.
See if that helps as well. If not, and as I stated, if you haven't done a factory reset, that might be your only other option unless someone else has something I haven't thought of.
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Yeah I got it from a store second hand. Came with the back poly still attached and no damages on the body. A killer deal. As for the battery issue, I had flashed wrong region stock rom. After learning what csc meant and figuring out I was on the wrong region I flashed the right rom and now my battery life is top notch. On a side note it has only 54 charge cycles after I got it.
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Yeah I got it from a store second hand. Came with the back poly still attached and no damages on the body. A killer deal. As for the battery issue, I had flashed wrong region stock rom. After learning what csc meant and figuring out I was on the wrong region I flashed the right rom and now my battery life is top notch. On a side note it has only 54 charge cycles after I got it.
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Glad you were able to figure it out. Even though the phone is reaching 2 years since it's release, I've been very happy with it. My S7 finally died over a week ago after 5+ years of dependable service.
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Glad you were able to figure it out. Even though the phone is reaching 2 years since it's release, I've been very happy with it. My S7 finally died over a week ago after 5+ years of dependable service.
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This is actually the second device I bought this year. At first I upgraded my Redmi Note 5 Pro which gave me 4 years of great service. Could have reached 5 but then I would not be able to exchange it so I did and got a Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus 5g. Considering how much I paid for it I was more or less satisfied except the camera. Then I bought this after months of careful consideration and also because it was a killer deal. I got a brand new device for half the price. Flagship specs at 33k bdt. You can't get a better deal.
How much percent is your Vivo x90 pro+ loosing per hour? I am at 2% - this is pretty ridciulous I feel.
Installed messengers:
Wechat
Line
Signal
Facebook messenger Lite (nut not Facebook itself)
Whatsapp
Telegram
Social apps:
Instagram
email:
gmail
SMS:
google messenger
Phone:
google phone (because the inbuilt phone has inferior spam call protection)
Various:
Banking apps on high power use - none.
Garmin Connect - Bluetooth is on to sync with my garmin smartwatch and after activites my garmin edge 1040.
Sim card: - right now 1 active on 4G. But this does not seem to make any difference in power use. 4G or wifi seems to be identical in power use for me. Also having a second Sim card active or not does not seem to change anything.
Even overnight in airplane mode it's losing like 6-7% in 8 hours. During the day I lose 2% per hour. Vivo.pem is uninstalled - because with it I get no notifications after several hours of non use from several apps. On my old P30 Pro the same set of apps but actually some more banking apps on autostart/high power use I had only 1% per hour.
I feel like removing vivo.pem turns this phone into crazy battery drain - but with vivo.pem it's a brick.
Battery drain otherwise is
10% for surfing on Chrome 1 hour with Screen on at WQHD 120hz variable if indoors, 15-20% in bright light outdoors.
25%/hour for camera use
20% per hour for google maps with screen on in bright light.
So that gets me 6 hours of SOT with my phone at 5-10% at midnight. Not really good at all I feel. While the battery drain from surfing with Chrome is okay (not great, not bat - seems other phones aren't much better) the idle drain is clearly way too much. At 2% per hour that means 32% of idle drain from morning to night. My old Huawei P30 Pro managed with around 15% (and getting all notifications on time, no worries - and less other apps killed all the time and nearly 3 year old 4200 battery instead of new 4700 battery.. With proper power management this should be 12% here. Which would in turn give me 8 instead of 6 hours of SOT per day and be a good value.
AOD is off (because it's useless anyhow on the X90 as it cannot display many apps).
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Would be interesting to see if anyhow actually has good battery life? In most reviews - if they are done somehow well and the phone actually been used - the battery life is pretty catastrophic - The best review of the X90 Pro+ so far that I have seen is this one - but mind its only in Chinese:
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Well and the reviewer used the phone as daily driver for at least 3 weeks, and he barely made it 12 hours! Not 12 hours of SOT, but 8:40 in the morning to 8:40 in the evening left over with 10%...
Huawei Mate 50 Pro and Xiaomi 12S Ultra with same usage would have been a little over 30% still - and that with the older Snapdragon 8Gen1+ which isn't as efficient and I guess the reviewer didn't remove vivo.pem..
Clearly the abismal software of Vivo here plays a big part - in summer my numbers will be minimum 25% shorter for SOT.
If vivo cannot fix the horrenduos idle battery drain - then I doubt the X90 Pro+ will ever have decent battery life. I really wonder where the problem is - because the hardware is supposed to be super efficient both SOC and display compared to older generation phones.
Just installed accu battery app, will keep an eye out the next few days.. But 2% an hour on average is not that much right ? This means your phone should last 100% - 7% during the night is 93% / 2% = 46 hours => your phone should last almost 2 full days...
2% is crazy bad. That means if I don't even touch my phone it's empty after 2 days. That's horrenduos. My P30 Pro actually does 6-7 days or so just lying around while still not missing a single email or notification. Yeah on the move it would be a bit worse - say 4-5 days. But I had 0.7% per hour average...
Oh and in airplane mode the X90 Pro+ still stucks quite a lot of power - while my P30 Pro would lose like 1-2% per day - so effectively I can let it lie around for 1-2 months then need to charge again without switching off.
Origin OS clearly has some severe optimization problems here (not sure about with vivo.pem installed and airplane mode - but that*s simply impossible because vivo.pem turns my phone into completely unusable..
And I'm not even using 5G which supposedly sucks your battery much faster than 4G (for now at least as 4G has been optimized for years now on hardware/firmware level).
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2% is crazy bad. That means if I don't even touch my phone it's empty after 2 days. That's horrenduos. My P30 Pro actually does 6-7 days or so just lying around while still not missing a single email or notification. Yeah on the move it would be a bit worse - say 4-5 days. But I had 0.7% per hour average...
Oh and in airplane mode the X90 Pro+ still stucks quite a lot of power - while my P30 Pro would lose like 1-2% per day - so effectively I can let it lie around for 1-2 months then need to charge again without switching off.
Origin OS clearly has some severe optimization problems here (not sure about with vivo.pem installed and airplane mode - but that*s simply impossible because vivo.pem turns my phone into completely unusable..
And I'm not even using 5G which supposedly sucks your battery much faster than 4G (for now at least as 4G has been optimized for years now on hardware/firmware level).
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OK... so the 2% is idle drain... I thought it was an average of using the phone during the day...
But you said 6-7% drain during the night... which is 8hours(?). So that is not even 1% pre hour... Why is idle drain half at night of what it is during the day ?
6-7% during the night in airplane mode. 2% during the day in idle.. Overall it's 1.5% whenever accu battery was running - which means airplane mode for 8-10h during the night and daytime in idle.
As you can see my average (albeit surfing a lot gives me a combined use of 19h50min for full charge down to 0... Yes that's a bit more than morning to evening - but far far away from making it into a second day. If I unplug it in the morning and would not recharge in the evening it would likely not make it to bedtime.. ..
Oh yeah - the quickest way to empty the battery for me is using google translate with camera. That sucks the battery at 27% when I for example want subtitles in a youtube video translated (subtitles which are inside the video - not a subtitle file - so there is no automatic way of translating - not sure if Pixel 6-7 live translate could do this on the fly...)
OK clear... I'll keep the battery app running the next few days and will post my battery usage...
I'm copy / pasting my response from the other thread.
My phone lost 4% in 9h, from 11:25 PM to 8:40 AM when I woke up. I had turned on: mobile data, wireless, bluetooth, location, alarm set for 8:40 AM, set for autostart have 6 apps and for microG autostart is not enough so I turned on startup. When I checked the consumtion, the only thing that standout was the Microsoft Launcher.
I have unistalled vivo.pem.
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I'm copy / pasting my response from the other thread.
My phone lost 4% in 9h, from 11:25 PM to 8:40 AM when I woke up. I had turned on: mobile data, wireless, bluetooth, location, alarm set for 8:40 AM, set for autostart have 6 apps and for microG autostart is not enough so I turned on startup. When I checked the consumtion, the only thing that standout was the Microsoft Launcher.
I have unistalled vivo.pem.
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Better to answer here:
I'll defnitely not do another factory reset - setting up this phone takes minimum 16 hours of time before I have all apps working again - without google backup that's a major pain. And no if I compare my times with many Chinese users it's still great. Many cannot get through 12 hours with the 90Pro+.
Are you using 4G, 5G, single sim, two sim cards? Which social media apps, which messengers...
Actually if I use the phone in battery saving mode the idle drain seems to be good, but while notifications seem to arrive on the phone (however without making a noise) - most don't arrive on my Fenix smartwatch anymore. But yes constantly running in battery saving mode got me good idle drain but again a not usable phone. so I have to go to ballanced mode in the normal settings,
Oh yeah - I had to enable on the battery usage the hidden "Unrestricted" mode - because with Optimized I would miss some notifications every few days for Signal and Line messenger. Either access this with code - or install "MIUI hidden settings app" - then under "All" click on "Advanced Power Usage Detail". Because this is not selectable by default (you can only select optimized or restricted, not unrestricted).
Oh and as you didn't mention it - I hope you ddin't start with 100% - because that is a random number - you need to start with 97% or lower for any serious testing as 100% is not full battery but less... The actualy max charge will differ but be 104-108%. So at the beginning seeing any drop is slow. Also I don't trust 99% and 98% after checking the voltage on Accubattery. So start any test with 97% or less - except a test that is full to empty.
Last night I lost about 13-14% charge. I did not use airplane mode. @extremecarver So that about matches your 2% an hour idle drain during the day. Not a big deal for me as I work from home most of the time, I have wireless charing in my car and can always charge my phone via usb on the laptop... But still it is a lot. I never noticed this because I can always charge the phone.
Using single sim on Edge (with 4g all incoming calls show 'unknown caller', forcing Edge data connection disables VOLTE and then I see incoming numbers/names. I do not have a toggle in setting to disable VOLTE). Wifi and location are enabled all the time. The apps that do not use the smart battery usage are Whatsapp, Tesla app, Ring app, Google clock, GMail...
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I'm copy / pasting my response from the other thread.
My phone lost 4% in 9h, from 11:25 PM to 8:40 AM when I woke up. I had turned on: mobile data, wireless, bluetooth, location, alarm set for 8:40 AM, set for autostart have 6 apps and for microG autostart is not enough so I turned on startup. When I checked the consumtion, the only thing that standout was the Microsoft Launcher.
I have unistalled vivo.pem.
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Oh yeah - and maybe you activated sleep mode in battery settings? After missing notifications several times I had to deactivate that one too. But that would explain too for much lower battery usage at night. I want a fully working system with no single notification missed either on my phone or on my watch - something every other brand can do without problems. Actually I don't care if the notifications come only every 5 minutes - but if they don't come at all or 3-4 hours later - like often happens on Vivo - that is simply very bad. And it seems like I'm belong the majority of users with poor battery life - only the minority has good numbers (but likely very few apps sending notifications).
How many notifications do you get per day? I'm about 100 I guess. And yeah don't wanna miss them and any other phone I had didn't have those problems...
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Last night I lost about 13-14% charge. I did not use airplane mode. @extremecarver So that about matches your 2% an hour idle drain during the day. Not a big deal for me as I work from home most of the time, I have wireless charing in my car and can always charge my phone via usb on the laptop... But still it is a lot. I never noticed this because I can always charge the phone.
Using single sim on Edge (with 4g all incoming calls show 'unknown caller', forcing Edge data connection disables VOLTE and then I see incoming numbers/names. I do not have a toggle in setting to disable VOLTE). Wifi and location are enabled all the time. The apps that do not use the smart battery usage are Whatsapp, Tesla app, Ring app, Google clock, GMail...
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yeah I guess everyone getting notifications suffers from this drain. If you use dual 5G data it's worst. The 5g module seems to be pretty bad- as so many people in China now recoomed to use 5G only if you really need it on the X90 series... Seems like 2-3 years ago when all phones had battery trouble with 5G - but 2022 phones mostly got that right (like Galaxy S22, Pixel 7 where people didn't complain about less battery life with 5G vs 4G anymore).
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Oh yeah - and maybe you activated sleep mode in battery settings? After missing notifications several times I had to deactivate that one too. But that would explain too for much lower battery usage at night. I want a fully working system with no single notification missed either on my phone or on my watch - something every other brand can do without problems. Actually I don't care if the notifications come only every 5 minutes - but if they don't come at all or 3-4 hours later - like often happens on Vivo - that is simply very bad. And it seems like I'm belong the majority of users with poor battery life - only the minority has good numbers (but likely very few apps sending notifications).
How many notifications do you get per day? I'm about 100 I guess. And yeah don't wanna miss them and any other phone I had didn't have those problems...
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Nope... sleep mode is disabled... I guess I get between 50 - 100 notifications a day ? And agreed, I don't want to miss my Whatsapp/Email/Ring doorbel notifications.
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yeah I guess everyone getting notifications suffers from this drain. If you use dual 5G data it's worst. The 5g module seems to be pretty bad- as so many people in China now recoomed to use 5G only if you really need it on the X90 series... Seems like 2-3 years ago when all phones had battery trouble with 5G - but 2022 phones mostly got that right (like Galaxy S22, Pixel 7 where people didn't complain about less battery life with 5G vs 4G anymore).
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Don't care about 5G (at the moment) 4G is fast enough for on the road. But at home I have a fast 1gb internet connection with multiple ubiquiti AP's, so I'm almost always using wifi.
Sleep mode is disabled, I didn't charged the phone, it was at 56% when I went to sleep. I'm on 4G network. My not restricted apps are WhatsApp, Instagram, Facebook / Facebook Messenger, Gmail, Revolut, another bank app, Vanced MicroG, Teams, Outlook.
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yeah I guess everyone getting notifications suffers from this drain. If you use dual 5G data it's worst. The 5g module seems to be pretty bad- as so many people in China now recoomed to use 5G only if you really need it on the X90 series... Seems like 2-3 years ago when all phones had battery trouble with 5G - but 2022 phones mostly got that right (like Galaxy S22, Pixel 7 where people didn't complain about less battery life with 5G vs 4G anymore).
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If you do, just a simple google search "Pixel 7 5G battery drain" there are a lot of complains and even Google saying it is investigating the problem.
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If you do, just a simple google search "Pixel 7 5G battery drain" there are a lot of complains and even Google saying it is investigating the problem.
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yeah - but we all know to stay away from phones with Samsung SOC... I don't think it has drain that badly on 5G however (Pixel 6 had). The benchmark in general should only be 8+Gen1, Gen2, and Mediatek 8x00/9x00 phones (because Mediatek 1080 phones seem to be too good when it comes to battery life - but they have usually much lower resolution screens, often only 60/90hz - but yeah for standby drain there should not be a reason why a Mediatek 1080 phone is better than 8Gen2 - the small cores that should be the only active ones during standby / idle should not be consuming any better on a 1080).
Vivo X80Pro has horrible battery life on reviews - be it DXOMark or GSMArena which are actually testing a bit outside the lab too. DXOMark even has a pretty standardized test on the go/outdoors.. Idle drain there likely was a thing too.
Well as for battery saver mode - forget it. I think after 30 minutes of no use the phone doesn't give out any notification at all anymore. I think Battery Saver is pretty identical to vivo.pem. So not usable. As long as you frequently wake up the phone - everything works. As soon as for 30 or is it 60? minutes you don't use the phone - it goes into super deep sleep with only SMS and calls giving you a notification.
Idle drain was really good with battery saver on however. But it also killed Accubattery so no stats available...
I had installed Gsam Battery monitor too - and that one somehow survived. Basically with battery saver idle drain is perfect.
It clearly shows we would need some sort of battery saving mechanism that works normally, becasue battery saver and vivo.pem do not work (also not for Chinese user if someone brings this argument again - clearly Chinese users not only using the preinstalled apps - face the same problems.
It's too bad that without root there is no way to debug what is actually causing the drain besides 5G active.
So far (20 hours in) it seems Vivo fixed at least some of the battery drain in 4G in yesterday's trial version.
My battery life seems to have improved a lot, however notifications now arrive maybe 1-2 minutes late for many apps except those you just used before.
That would be an intelligent change. just push notifications once per minute.
In general I noticed the battery life is pretty good on wi-fi (except if wifi reception is very weak), but has been much worse on 4G data or even worse on 5G data. That may account for the big differences.
And well I managed to drain the battery today with 3:20 hours screen on time to shutdown.
Forgot to turn of google photos sync and my battery dropped like no tomorrow.. yeah surely the next 4G tower was 15km away. 800mhz. But I could literally watch the percentage dropping. The battery drain started literally as I took 150 photos or so shooting nice pics for sunset and the phone in the background trying to sync them. It literally lost battery like while running a benchmark like Geekbench nonstop
It's 4G/5G data that drains this battery like crazy. On wifi all is fine. As soon as you have average to below average reception the battery drain is crazy like I've never seen on another phone before. And surely it's not only me.
I tested against iphone 13 pro and screen off 4G data on same network at the same time with pretty identical speeds was 1% vs 5% for again a 20 minutes test. So fix that and battery life will be outstanding (yes on wifi it's better than iphone!). If that cannot be fixed this phone will be doomed for outdoor use if you need some GB per day...
Notice the crazy drain from 15% down to 3% with screen off. That was the phone trying to stay connected to cell data/towers on a bad mountain road. I didn't have anything running besides accubattery and closed all non locked apps to save some Juice. To no avail, if you have bad reception and don't switch off data that thing drains battery like no tomorrow. On the other hand it Vivo can fix the 4G and 5G drain and it's not a hardware but just firmware issue, battery life will be great. If it's hardware issue then it looks really bad for on the go.
So far overnight on wifi, bluetooth on, 4g on lost around 2% in 12h. Im on73% battery and 3h screen on time , 21h from last charge