Question Excessive Idle drain / general battery drain - Vivo X90 Pro Plus

How much percent is your Vivo x90 pro+ loosing per hour? I am at 2% - this is pretty ridciulous I feel.
Installed messengers:
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Facebook messenger Lite (nut not Facebook itself)
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email:
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SMS:
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google phone (because the inbuilt phone has inferior spam call protection)
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Banking apps on high power use - none.
Garmin Connect - Bluetooth is on to sync with my garmin smartwatch and after activites my garmin edge 1040.
Sim card: - right now 1 active on 4G. But this does not seem to make any difference in power use. 4G or wifi seems to be identical in power use for me. Also having a second Sim card active or not does not seem to change anything.
Even overnight in airplane mode it's losing like 6-7% in 8 hours. During the day I lose 2% per hour. Vivo.pem is uninstalled - because with it I get no notifications after several hours of non use from several apps. On my old P30 Pro the same set of apps but actually some more banking apps on autostart/high power use I had only 1% per hour.
I feel like removing vivo.pem turns this phone into crazy battery drain - but with vivo.pem it's a brick.
Battery drain otherwise is
10% for surfing on Chrome 1 hour with Screen on at WQHD 120hz variable if indoors, 15-20% in bright light outdoors.
25%/hour for camera use
20% per hour for google maps with screen on in bright light.
So that gets me 6 hours of SOT with my phone at 5-10% at midnight. Not really good at all I feel. While the battery drain from surfing with Chrome is okay (not great, not bat - seems other phones aren't much better) the idle drain is clearly way too much. At 2% per hour that means 32% of idle drain from morning to night. My old Huawei P30 Pro managed with around 15% (and getting all notifications on time, no worries - and less other apps killed all the time and nearly 3 year old 4200 battery instead of new 4700 battery.. With proper power management this should be 12% here. Which would in turn give me 8 instead of 6 hours of SOT per day and be a good value.
AOD is off (because it's useless anyhow on the X90 as it cannot display many apps).
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Would be interesting to see if anyhow actually has good battery life? In most reviews - if they are done somehow well and the phone actually been used - the battery life is pretty catastrophic - The best review of the X90 Pro+ so far that I have seen is this one - but mind its only in Chinese:
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Well and the reviewer used the phone as daily driver for at least 3 weeks, and he barely made it 12 hours! Not 12 hours of SOT, but 8:40 in the morning to 8:40 in the evening left over with 10%...
Huawei Mate 50 Pro and Xiaomi 12S Ultra with same usage would have been a little over 30% still - and that with the older Snapdragon 8Gen1+ which isn't as efficient and I guess the reviewer didn't remove vivo.pem..
Clearly the abismal software of Vivo here plays a big part - in summer my numbers will be minimum 25% shorter for SOT.
If vivo cannot fix the horrenduos idle battery drain - then I doubt the X90 Pro+ will ever have decent battery life. I really wonder where the problem is - because the hardware is supposed to be super efficient both SOC and display compared to older generation phones.

Just installed accu battery app, will keep an eye out the next few days.. But 2% an hour on average is not that much right ? This means your phone should last 100% - 7% during the night is 93% / 2% = 46 hours => your phone should last almost 2 full days...

2% is crazy bad. That means if I don't even touch my phone it's empty after 2 days. That's horrenduos. My P30 Pro actually does 6-7 days or so just lying around while still not missing a single email or notification. Yeah on the move it would be a bit worse - say 4-5 days. But I had 0.7% per hour average...
Oh and in airplane mode the X90 Pro+ still stucks quite a lot of power - while my P30 Pro would lose like 1-2% per day - so effectively I can let it lie around for 1-2 months then need to charge again without switching off.
Origin OS clearly has some severe optimization problems here (not sure about with vivo.pem installed and airplane mode - but that*s simply impossible because vivo.pem turns my phone into completely unusable..
And I'm not even using 5G which supposedly sucks your battery much faster than 4G (for now at least as 4G has been optimized for years now on hardware/firmware level).

extremecarver said:
2% is crazy bad. That means if I don't even touch my phone it's empty after 2 days. That's horrenduos. My P30 Pro actually does 6-7 days or so just lying around while still not missing a single email or notification. Yeah on the move it would be a bit worse - say 4-5 days. But I had 0.7% per hour average...
Oh and in airplane mode the X90 Pro+ still stucks quite a lot of power - while my P30 Pro would lose like 1-2% per day - so effectively I can let it lie around for 1-2 months then need to charge again without switching off.
Origin OS clearly has some severe optimization problems here (not sure about with vivo.pem installed and airplane mode - but that*s simply impossible because vivo.pem turns my phone into completely unusable..
And I'm not even using 5G which supposedly sucks your battery much faster than 4G (for now at least as 4G has been optimized for years now on hardware/firmware level).
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OK... so the 2% is idle drain... I thought it was an average of using the phone during the day...
But you said 6-7% drain during the night... which is 8hours(?). So that is not even 1% pre hour... Why is idle drain half at night of what it is during the day ?

6-7% during the night in airplane mode. 2% during the day in idle.. Overall it's 1.5% whenever accu battery was running - which means airplane mode for 8-10h during the night and daytime in idle.
As you can see my average (albeit surfing a lot gives me a combined use of 19h50min for full charge down to 0... Yes that's a bit more than morning to evening - but far far away from making it into a second day. If I unplug it in the morning and would not recharge in the evening it would likely not make it to bedtime.. ..
Oh yeah - the quickest way to empty the battery for me is using google translate with camera. That sucks the battery at 27% when I for example want subtitles in a youtube video translated (subtitles which are inside the video - not a subtitle file - so there is no automatic way of translating - not sure if Pixel 6-7 live translate could do this on the fly...)

OK clear... I'll keep the battery app running the next few days and will post my battery usage...

I'm copy / pasting my response from the other thread.
My phone lost 4% in 9h, from 11:25 PM to 8:40 AM when I woke up. I had turned on: mobile data, wireless, bluetooth, location, alarm set for 8:40 AM, set for autostart have 6 apps and for microG autostart is not enough so I turned on startup. When I checked the consumtion, the only thing that standout was the Microsoft Launcher.
I have unistalled vivo.pem.

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PILLS2389 said:
I'm copy / pasting my response from the other thread.
My phone lost 4% in 9h, from 11:25 PM to 8:40 AM when I woke up. I had turned on: mobile data, wireless, bluetooth, location, alarm set for 8:40 AM, set for autostart have 6 apps and for microG autostart is not enough so I turned on startup. When I checked the consumtion, the only thing that standout was the Microsoft Launcher.
I have unistalled vivo.pem.
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Better to answer here:
I'll defnitely not do another factory reset - setting up this phone takes minimum 16 hours of time before I have all apps working again - without google backup that's a major pain. And no if I compare my times with many Chinese users it's still great. Many cannot get through 12 hours with the 90Pro+.
Are you using 4G, 5G, single sim, two sim cards? Which social media apps, which messengers...
Actually if I use the phone in battery saving mode the idle drain seems to be good, but while notifications seem to arrive on the phone (however without making a noise) - most don't arrive on my Fenix smartwatch anymore. But yes constantly running in battery saving mode got me good idle drain but again a not usable phone. so I have to go to ballanced mode in the normal settings,
Oh yeah - I had to enable on the battery usage the hidden "Unrestricted" mode - because with Optimized I would miss some notifications every few days for Signal and Line messenger. Either access this with code - or install "MIUI hidden settings app" - then under "All" click on "Advanced Power Usage Detail". Because this is not selectable by default (you can only select optimized or restricted, not unrestricted).
Oh and as you didn't mention it - I hope you ddin't start with 100% - because that is a random number - you need to start with 97% or lower for any serious testing as 100% is not full battery but less... The actualy max charge will differ but be 104-108%. So at the beginning seeing any drop is slow. Also I don't trust 99% and 98% after checking the voltage on Accubattery. So start any test with 97% or less - except a test that is full to empty.

Last night I lost about 13-14% charge. I did not use airplane mode. @extremecarver So that about matches your 2% an hour idle drain during the day. Not a big deal for me as I work from home most of the time, I have wireless charing in my car and can always charge my phone via usb on the laptop... But still it is a lot. I never noticed this because I can always charge the phone.
Using single sim on Edge (with 4g all incoming calls show 'unknown caller', forcing Edge data connection disables VOLTE and then I see incoming numbers/names. I do not have a toggle in setting to disable VOLTE). Wifi and location are enabled all the time. The apps that do not use the smart battery usage are Whatsapp, Tesla app, Ring app, Google clock, GMail...

PILLS2389 said:
I'm copy / pasting my response from the other thread.
My phone lost 4% in 9h, from 11:25 PM to 8:40 AM when I woke up. I had turned on: mobile data, wireless, bluetooth, location, alarm set for 8:40 AM, set for autostart have 6 apps and for microG autostart is not enough so I turned on startup. When I checked the consumtion, the only thing that standout was the Microsoft Launcher.
I have unistalled vivo.pem.
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Oh yeah - and maybe you activated sleep mode in battery settings? After missing notifications several times I had to deactivate that one too. But that would explain too for much lower battery usage at night. I want a fully working system with no single notification missed either on my phone or on my watch - something every other brand can do without problems. Actually I don't care if the notifications come only every 5 minutes - but if they don't come at all or 3-4 hours later - like often happens on Vivo - that is simply very bad. And it seems like I'm belong the majority of users with poor battery life - only the minority has good numbers (but likely very few apps sending notifications).
How many notifications do you get per day? I'm about 100 I guess. And yeah don't wanna miss them and any other phone I had didn't have those problems...

Vinzie said:
Last night I lost about 13-14% charge. I did not use airplane mode. @extremecarver So that about matches your 2% an hour idle drain during the day. Not a big deal for me as I work from home most of the time, I have wireless charing in my car and can always charge my phone via usb on the laptop... But still it is a lot. I never noticed this because I can always charge the phone.
Using single sim on Edge (with 4g all incoming calls show 'unknown caller', forcing Edge data connection disables VOLTE and then I see incoming numbers/names. I do not have a toggle in setting to disable VOLTE). Wifi and location are enabled all the time. The apps that do not use the smart battery usage are Whatsapp, Tesla app, Ring app, Google clock, GMail...
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yeah I guess everyone getting notifications suffers from this drain. If you use dual 5G data it's worst. The 5g module seems to be pretty bad- as so many people in China now recoomed to use 5G only if you really need it on the X90 series... Seems like 2-3 years ago when all phones had battery trouble with 5G - but 2022 phones mostly got that right (like Galaxy S22, Pixel 7 where people didn't complain about less battery life with 5G vs 4G anymore).

extremecarver said:
Oh yeah - and maybe you activated sleep mode in battery settings? After missing notifications several times I had to deactivate that one too. But that would explain too for much lower battery usage at night. I want a fully working system with no single notification missed either on my phone or on my watch - something every other brand can do without problems. Actually I don't care if the notifications come only every 5 minutes - but if they don't come at all or 3-4 hours later - like often happens on Vivo - that is simply very bad. And it seems like I'm belong the majority of users with poor battery life - only the minority has good numbers (but likely very few apps sending notifications).
How many notifications do you get per day? I'm about 100 I guess. And yeah don't wanna miss them and any other phone I had didn't have those problems...
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Nope... sleep mode is disabled... I guess I get between 50 - 100 notifications a day ? And agreed, I don't want to miss my Whatsapp/Email/Ring doorbel notifications.

extremecarver said:
yeah I guess everyone getting notifications suffers from this drain. If you use dual 5G data it's worst. The 5g module seems to be pretty bad- as so many people in China now recoomed to use 5G only if you really need it on the X90 series... Seems like 2-3 years ago when all phones had battery trouble with 5G - but 2022 phones mostly got that right (like Galaxy S22, Pixel 7 where people didn't complain about less battery life with 5G vs 4G anymore).
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Don't care about 5G (at the moment) 4G is fast enough for on the road. But at home I have a fast 1gb internet connection with multiple ubiquiti AP's, so I'm almost always using wifi.

Sleep mode is disabled, I didn't charged the phone, it was at 56% when I went to sleep. I'm on 4G network. My not restricted apps are WhatsApp, Instagram, Facebook / Facebook Messenger, Gmail, Revolut, another bank app, Vanced MicroG, Teams, Outlook.

extremecarver said:
yeah I guess everyone getting notifications suffers from this drain. If you use dual 5G data it's worst. The 5g module seems to be pretty bad- as so many people in China now recoomed to use 5G only if you really need it on the X90 series... Seems like 2-3 years ago when all phones had battery trouble with 5G - but 2022 phones mostly got that right (like Galaxy S22, Pixel 7 where people didn't complain about less battery life with 5G vs 4G anymore).
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If you do, just a simple google search "Pixel 7 5G battery drain" there are a lot of complains and even Google saying it is investigating the problem.

PILLS2389 said:
If you do, just a simple google search "Pixel 7 5G battery drain" there are a lot of complains and even Google saying it is investigating the problem.
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yeah - but we all know to stay away from phones with Samsung SOC... I don't think it has drain that badly on 5G however (Pixel 6 had). The benchmark in general should only be 8+Gen1, Gen2, and Mediatek 8x00/9x00 phones (because Mediatek 1080 phones seem to be too good when it comes to battery life - but they have usually much lower resolution screens, often only 60/90hz - but yeah for standby drain there should not be a reason why a Mediatek 1080 phone is better than 8Gen2 - the small cores that should be the only active ones during standby / idle should not be consuming any better on a 1080).
Vivo X80Pro has horrible battery life on reviews - be it DXOMark or GSMArena which are actually testing a bit outside the lab too. DXOMark even has a pretty standardized test on the go/outdoors.. Idle drain there likely was a thing too.
Well as for battery saver mode - forget it. I think after 30 minutes of no use the phone doesn't give out any notification at all anymore. I think Battery Saver is pretty identical to vivo.pem. So not usable. As long as you frequently wake up the phone - everything works. As soon as for 30 or is it 60? minutes you don't use the phone - it goes into super deep sleep with only SMS and calls giving you a notification.
Idle drain was really good with battery saver on however. But it also killed Accubattery so no stats available...
I had installed Gsam Battery monitor too - and that one somehow survived. Basically with battery saver idle drain is perfect.
It clearly shows we would need some sort of battery saving mechanism that works normally, becasue battery saver and vivo.pem do not work (also not for Chinese user if someone brings this argument again - clearly Chinese users not only using the preinstalled apps - face the same problems.
It's too bad that without root there is no way to debug what is actually causing the drain besides 5G active.

So far (20 hours in) it seems Vivo fixed at least some of the battery drain in 4G in yesterday's trial version.
My battery life seems to have improved a lot, however notifications now arrive maybe 1-2 minutes late for many apps except those you just used before.
That would be an intelligent change. just push notifications once per minute.
In general I noticed the battery life is pretty good on wi-fi (except if wifi reception is very weak), but has been much worse on 4G data or even worse on 5G data. That may account for the big differences.

And well I managed to drain the battery today with 3:20 hours screen on time to shutdown.
Forgot to turn of google photos sync and my battery dropped like no tomorrow.. yeah surely the next 4G tower was 15km away. 800mhz. But I could literally watch the percentage dropping. The battery drain started literally as I took 150 photos or so shooting nice pics for sunset and the phone in the background trying to sync them. It literally lost battery like while running a benchmark like Geekbench nonstop
It's 4G/5G data that drains this battery like crazy. On wifi all is fine. As soon as you have average to below average reception the battery drain is crazy like I've never seen on another phone before. And surely it's not only me.
I tested against iphone 13 pro and screen off 4G data on same network at the same time with pretty identical speeds was 1% vs 5% for again a 20 minutes test. So fix that and battery life will be outstanding (yes on wifi it's better than iphone!). If that cannot be fixed this phone will be doomed for outdoor use if you need some GB per day...
Notice the crazy drain from 15% down to 3% with screen off. That was the phone trying to stay connected to cell data/towers on a bad mountain road. I didn't have anything running besides accubattery and closed all non locked apps to save some Juice. To no avail, if you have bad reception and don't switch off data that thing drains battery like no tomorrow. On the other hand it Vivo can fix the 4G and 5G drain and it's not a hardware but just firmware issue, battery life will be great. If it's hardware issue then it looks really bad for on the go.

So far overnight on wifi, bluetooth on, 4g on lost around 2% in 12h. Im on73% battery and 3h screen on time , 21h from last charge

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[Q] Note Battery drain? Rate Your battery Life!O_o?

Hello,
im thinking on buying the Note =]
i wanted to ask "heavy","excessive" users how is the phone battery drain ?>
*how long your phone lasts without charge (excessive,heavy use)?
*how long your phone lasts without charge (normal use)?
Im only use any of my smartphones with excessive,heavy use.
I have only 2 full battery circles and im using stock root rom/kernel.
All my phones was with very good custom kernels and lower voltages cause i wanted to stay alive during the day (8-23:00).
Now,my battery keep up the day but more easy than my previous phones (you can see which in my sign).
So, even my battery is new with few full circles, even im not using custom kernel for uc or uv, its better than my previous smartphones.
For a 5.3" display the battery life is exceeding expectations.. Based on my usage it has more battery life than the Galaxy S2 altho movie time is still the same at 8:30hrs to 9:00
I think it's very hard to define excessive vs normal use. Also the usage patterns of different people varies greatly. mostly because some use wifi on 100% of the time, others just turn it on here and there to check emails. Same for background sync and autosync which are battery drainers . So it's really hard to compare...
I keep my Wifi constantly on, background sync on, autosync is off but I have a task in Tasker to autosync every three hours manually. I have some push emails in K9 and twitter, gtalk and tapatalk syncing.
So on a day of super heavy usage the phone will last about 16-17 hours (ofcourse that includes about 7 hours of sleep time). With normal to moderate use I can make about 24-27 hours.
Hi people! I'm noob here! (wanted to write new but couldn't resist!)
I recently bought the Note and been having a few hard times with a couple of things.
One of the specifics concern battery life. Having been showered in the awesomeness of a 2,5 ma battery i thought the battery would be invulnerable but i was wrong.
The first 4 days the battery lasted me quite fine having to charge the phone once every two days. Heavy consumption was done for brief periods of 1-1:30 hours where i would try to shape my phone in the image that i wanted.
By the end of the fourth day i had a respectable amount of apps inside but not too many to explain the fact that my battery life now has decreased to 1 day.
I kinda panicked when i noticed the difference and went ahead to install Juice defender and advanced task cleaner apps. What's weird is the fact that before i did i would charge the phone before going to bed at night and then pull the plug when it would be full. By the morning the phone had lost about 25% while inert!
Noticing that i would go to the battery use feature in settings and see that the radio(!) which i hadn't been using was eating away my battery's life along with the screen which was inactive as a consequence of the phone in locked mode and a few other apps which filled the rest of the loss.
I tried to kill apps and i use Juice defender pro in custom advanced mode effectively rendering the phone dead after locking. It still consumes the same percentage of battery although now it blames the radio less and the live wallpaper more.
Am i to assume that my battery has reached it's "puberty" and that's "normal" from now on or is there a problem i just can't diagnose due to lack of experience?
This phone is my first android device. I do not know my way around it although i am learning more and more in a rapid learning curve.
Please note anything you might think has escaped my attention.
Thank you.
Android 4.9 Marshmallow said:
Hi people! I'm noob here! (wanted to write new but couldn't resist!)
I recently bought the Note and been having a few hard times with a couple of things.
One of the specifics concern battery life. Having been showered in the awesomeness of a 2,5 ma battery i thought the battery would be invulnerable but i was wrong.
The first 4 days the battery lasted me quite fine having to charge the phone once every two days. Heavy consumption was done for brief periods of 1-1:30 hours where i would try to shape my phone in the image that i wanted.
By the end of the fourth day i had a respectable amount of apps inside but not too many to explain the fact that my battery life now has decreased to 1 day.
I kinda panicked when i noticed the difference and went ahead to install Juice defender and advanced task cleaner apps. What's weird is the fact that before i did i would charge the phone before going to bed at night and then pull the plug when it would be full. By the morning the phone had lost about 25% while inert!
Noticing that i would go to the battery use feature in settings and see that the radio(!) which i hadn't been using was eating away my battery's life along with the screen which was inactive as a consequence of the phone in locked mode and a few other apps which filled the rest of the loss.
I tried to kill apps and i use Juice defender pro in custom advanced mode effectively rendering the phone dead after locking. It still consumes the same percentage of battery although now it blames the radio less and the live wallpaper more.
Am i to assume that my battery has reached it's "puberty" and that's "normal" from now on or is there a problem i just can't diagnose due to lack of experience?
This phone is my first android device. I do not know my way around it although i am learning more and more in a rapid learning curve.
Please note anything you might think has escaped my attention.
Thank you.
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Your question is a little OT but i'll try to answer real quick.
25% loss of battery sounds about right if you have your Auto Sync ON.
Disable it and you'll go down to about 10% a night. Am i right or am i totally off here ?
mfractal said:
Your question is a little OT but i'll try to answer real quick.
25% loss of battery sounds about right if you have your Auto Sync ON.
Disable it and you'll go down to about 10% a night. Am i right or am i totally off here ?
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I'll try it and see tonight. Thanks mfractal. Having been an IPhone 3G owner i gotta say, it's still kinda disheartening to see that 10% battery loss overnight is considered "normal". Will work my way around purchasing a second backup battery for emergencies.
Thanks again.
Android 4.9 Marshmallow said:
I'll try it and see tonight. Thanks mfractal. Having been an IPhone 3G owner i gotta say, it's still kinda disheartening to see that 10% battery loss overnight is considered "normal". Will work my way around purchasing a second backup battery for emergencies.
Thanks again.
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i also come from an iphone, and yeah, you have to make some adjustments.
you can take that drain to 1-2% if you disable Background Sync.
this was my batteries first full cycle. but you should get a general idea of how it performed.
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running AntoniomistrettA ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372619 )
this was what i would consider 'heavy' use, atleast by my standards. Edge only, Auto sync on, brightness at 75%, fairly frequent use.
Draining twice as fast after an update on apps this morning!
Hmmm, I have been using the Note for about 2 weeks now. With Juice Defender installed (with aggressive settings), I get by OK with the battery for a full day.
Well, that was until this morning when I ran an update of a few apps, and now I barely got to noon when the battery went completely drained. Same settings on Juice Defender.
Any clues on how to deal with this? I am thinking of reverting all the updates to double check.
guys, the steps to analyze battery drain are quite standard.
Download BetterBatteryStats (there's full version for free for XDA users, search the forum)
Download CPU Spy
Charge to 100%, reset statistics in CPU Spy and let the battery drain to 10-20%.
Then Analyze wakelocks in BetterBatteryStats and you will see which programs keep your phone awake.
If you want to make sure the phone is entering sleep mode and staying there, reset cpu spy stats before going to sleep and check in the morning. more than 90% of the time the phone should be in deep sleep. If not - again, betterbatterystats's wakelocks will show you what's keeping the phone awake.
mfractal said:
i also come from an iphone, and yeah, you have to make some adjustments.
you can take that drain to 1-2% if you disable Background Sync.
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That's EXACTLY what happened! I am stunned! I left the phone last night at 97% and found it this morning at 95%!!! When i saw it i was dumbfounded!
Thank you very much mfractal!
Android 4.9 Marshmallow said:
That's EXACTLY what happened! I am stunned! I left the phone last night at 97% and found it this morning at 95%!!! When i saw it i was dumbfounded!
Thank you very much mfractal!
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sure NP.
problem is that background sync is required by quite a lot of programs to function correctly. Hell, market won't even open with it disabled.
My battery life is pretty good atm considering its still a new toy and gets a heavy workout.
The battery life will improve over time as my usage will drop but with the screen it pretty much can replace my pc for any basic web stuff outside off the heavy duty work only a high spec PC is good for.
Disabling background sync defeats the purpose of having a smart phone, no?
mfractal said:
sure NP.
problem is that background sync is required by quite a lot of programs to function correctly. Hell, market won't even open with it disabled.
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I do like my phone and the screen real estate, and understand that, it can be major battery hog. But I would really like it to be super efficient when the screen is off.
I was looking at my battery drain graphs, (Settings>About Phone>battery usage) and noticed that my phone is active almost all through the night, (even when the screen is off).
So i loose 25-30 overnight, on IDLE.
Is this normal?
I'm using Exchange instead of the Gmail app for my mail. Does that use more battery?
Regards
gaddy888 said:
I do like my phone and the screen real estate, and understand that, it can be major battery hog. But I would really like it to be super efficient when the screen is off.
I was looking at my battery drain graphs, (Settings>About Phone>battery usage) and noticed that my phone is active almost all through the night, (even when the screen is off).
So i loose 25-30 overnight, on IDLE.
Is this normal?
I'm using Exchange instead of the Gmail app for my mail. Does that use more battery?
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Of course gmail use more battery like every app running in background and syncing.
But your battery drain overnight is really so much.
The normal is 1% per hour without any app syncing in background and about 2% or 3% with background syncing apps.So you must check your apps.Something draining your battery.
Overall,i don't believe that note battery isn't good.i think Samsung haven't done so good work in filmwares and apps.
I have removed the most of Samsung apps and my battery is great.
Maybe a update from Samsung solved battery issue.In nexus previous days released a filmware update which change amazing the battery life.users mention that they loose 2% overnight.And before this update nexus battery sucks!
So, we must pray for something similar in our note from Samsung...
Sent from the best smartphone, Galaxy Note...
Do you have auto sync on? If so please turn it off and watch the drain overnight drop to about 10%
If not then we got a problem
I got my Note two weeks ago and am since struggling with my battery usage as well.
It's hard to reproduce, but Android OS is the reason for excessive battery usage when the phone is idle.
Today I found this quite interesting. Please have a look at this screenshot:
Since a few days ago I'm using Llama to control some settings on my phone, but the drainage was present before I installed Llama.
When you look at the first gap in WiFi usage you can see the phone disconnecting from my WiFi router at home (TP-Link TL-WR1043ND) when Llama disabled my WiFi.
About 20 minutes later, when I arrived at the office, Llama reactivates WiFi and my phone connects to our WiFi access point at the office (TP-Link TL-WA801ND).
At this point Android OS usage goes up considerably and it won't stop, even if I disable the phone's WiFi.
Actually at the second, larger gap in WiFi usage I disabled the WiFi connection manually which caused my phone to stay awake until I activate WiFi again.
Edit: Using Titanium Backup I have frozen Wifi-Sharing and the Wifi Manager.
Apart from that, Wifi usage was never an issue on my old Milestone, where I had Wifi enabled permanently and the battery lasted for 4-5 days.
I'd be glad to provide more information if that could help figure out the cause of AOS's battery usage.
My phone is currently running:
PDA: N7000XXKK9
PHONE: N7000XXKK5
CSC: N7000OXAKK9
I installed FM-Kernel 1.4, hoping it would fix this issue. It did for a day or so...
Apart from the kernel it's the newest 2.3.6 stock ROM I received via FOTA though.
I easily get a good day out of mine with quite a bit of use. If use mine lightly I can get 2 days out of mine. If you are in need of urgent 3G switch 3G off to GSM to conserve battery life.
desiregeek said:
I easily get a good day out of mine with quite a bit of use. If use mine lightly I can get 2 days out of mine. If you are in need of urgent 3G switch 3G off to GSM to conserve battery life.
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Sorry, I forgot to include it in my post.
Since I got the phone I have it set to 2G only, because I used up my monthly quota and am getting throttled to GPRS speeds anyway. So the 3G connection isn't the issue either.
Apart from that this happens in flight mode as well.

Question Battery life not as expected

So i got my S21 Ultra a couple of weeks ago and the battery life isn't as good as people tell it to be... I wonder if this is normal or i have a faulty unit
Important: i am running the latest update on my exynos device (february security patch as of the making of this thread)
What do you expect? You have used the phone almost 12 hours, used Samsung Music for nearly 8 hours and still have 78% battery left lol. This is great.
iamnotkurtcobain said:
What do you expect? You have used the phone almost 12 hours, used Samsung Music for nearly 8 hours and still have 78% battery left lol. This is great.
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The SoT is pretty crap i can only get 5 to 6 hours if i'm lucky, all i do is watch youtube and netflix and nothing else pretty much, and since SoT is pretty important to me idk if i should wait for an update or get another unit
If you are comparing to a Chinese phone, I would agree that the battery life is not great. Before buying S21 Ultra(exynos), I was using Mi 10T pro. It has better battery performance than S21 Ultra. The other thing that I dislike about would be the heat issue on S21 Ultra. Its horrible.
SOT is only one measure of battery life, the battery still depletes when the screen is off, especially if you're doing something like listening to music for 7 hours......
If you saw the YouTube 'battery drain' tests, the majority are in a room, mobile turned off and on WIFI. They are in constant use with minimal ramping/up down of the processor as they only switch apps every hour. These guys achieve up to 9 hours with constant use in optimal conditions.
If you extrapolate out your current usage you're on for 7 hours with 51 hours total, which is very very strong. People would kill for that endurance
At best you can expect 0.5% an hour drain if you aren't using the phone, but that's if you literally leave it overnight and don't touch it. More likely it'll be between 1-2% depending on usage, so if you calculate you've had roughly 10 hours of screen off, that's about 10% battery that isn't being used on screen on time, which equates to roughly an hour of SOT 'missed out on' if you were just to run the device with the screen on for the sake of it.
If you're truly only concerned about SOT, run a day without music in the background and see the improvement. It's a nonsensical thing to do as that's not how you use your phone, but will get you the numbers you want...
You're also using a high end processor and a large screen with a high refresh rate, it's going to use more juice than a mid range or low end phone. If you send that phone back, someone else is going to be very happy when they get it as their replacement
mtm1401 said:
SOT is only one measure of battery life, the battery still depletes when the screen is off, especially if you're doing something like listening to music for 7 hours......
If you saw the YouTube 'battery drain' tests, the majority are in a room, mobile turned off and on WIFI. They are in constant use with minimal ramping/up down of the processor as they only switch apps every hour. These guys achieve up to 9 hours with constant use in optimal conditions.
If you extrapolate out your current usage you're on for 7 hours with 51 hours total, which is very very strong. People would kill for that endurance
At best you can expect 0.5% an hour drain if you aren't using the phone, but that's if you literally leave it overnight and don't touch it. More likely it'll be between 1-2% depending on usage, so if you calculate you've had roughly 10 hours of screen off, that's about 10% battery that isn't being used on screen on time, which equates to roughly an hour of SOT 'missed out on' if you were just to run the device with the screen on for the sake of it.
If you're truly only concerned about SOT, run a day without music in the background and see the improvement. It's a nonsensical thing to do as that's not how you use your phone, but will get you the numbers you want...
You're also using a high end processor and a large screen with a high refresh rate, it's going to use more juice than a mid range or low end phone. If you send that phone back, someone else is going to be very happy when they get it as their replacement
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With my s21 ultta i can easily achieve 10-12hours of sot with browsjng and youtube on wlan with total runtime of 48hours.on mobile data its a good 35% less (also cause of brighter screen outdoors) but Overall its good battery life for me (note im debloated and using Samsung browser with darkmode!!)
I'm doing OK on the battery. Turned off goggle discover on side screen has helped aswell as 5g disabled as I don't have it where I live atm
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With my s21 ultta i can easily achieve 10-12hours of sot with browsjng and youtube on wlan with total runtime of 48hours.on mobile data its a good 35% less (also cause of brighter screen outdoors) but Overall its good battery life for me (note im debloated and using Samsung browser with darkmode!!)
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Ive attached a screenshot. Note this was 90% with wlan
Goku1992 said:
Ive attached a screenshot. Note this was 90% with wlan
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What have you done other than debloat and Samsung browser?
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What have you done other than debloat and Samsung browser?
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Nothing running 60hz and wqhd (on my phone fhd and wqhd doesnt made a different more that 2-4% so....)
Goku1992 said:
Nothing running 60hz and wqhd (on my phone fhd and wqhd doesnt made a different more that 2-4% so....)
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Yea it'll be the 60hz getting you through then, makes sense
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Yea it'll be the 60hz getting you through then, makes sense
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Yes if you want the same smoothness and a good 10% better battery you can use the 96hz mod
Put brightness on manual. The display eats a lot of the battery. Try to keep it at 50% or less.
Turn off all animations and use dark mode/dark wallpapers. Junk like tic-tok, fb don't help.
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Put brightness on manual. The display eats a lot of the battery. Try to keep it at 50% or less.
Turn off all animations and use dark mode/dark wallpapers. Junk like tic-tok, fb don't help.
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Im using automatic brightness. Yes only using instagram, fb in the browser cause zhose notifications are annoing...
Goku1992 said:
Im using automatic brightness. Yes only using instagram, fb in the browser cause zhose notifications are annoing...
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Fb is malware, I don't care who or what's on it, it's off limits. Instagram... no way.
Tweeter just as bad as fb. Full boycott on all that junk until they f-f-fade away
Been using manual brightness control for over a year on my 10+. Occasionally I toggle it on but rarely. Going full brightness will greatly reduce OLEDs finite lifespan. Blue goes first... and the burnout isn't even. If I can get 5 years with just a battery change or two, I want it.
So far between Samsung's and Android's weak offerings I have zero incentive to upgrade hardware or firmware
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Fb is malware, I don't care who or what's on it, it's off limits. Instagram... no way.
Tweeter just as bad as fb. Full boycott on all that junk until they f-f-fade away
Been using manual brightness control for over a year on my 10+. Occasionally I toggle it on but rarely. Going full brightness will greatly reduce OLEDs finite lifespan. Blue goes first... and the burnout isn't even. If I can get 5 years with just a battery change or two, I want it.
So far between Samsung's and Android's weak offerings I have zero incentive to upgrade hardware or firmware
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Yes but if you are using them in tge browser they cant suck your battery up and im only using them for roughly 10minutes a day so no problem. But youre right they are like malware... Traking your location every few minutes and that ****
Goku1992 said:
Yes but if you are using them in tge browser they cant suck your battery up and im only using them for roughly 10minutes a day so no problem. But youre right they are like malware... Traking your location every few minutes and that ****
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I do 20-30% charges throughout the day.
Crap like Twitter and fb can cost you your job as well as privacy leading you open to attacks of all kinds. Zero rewards and lots of risk. No.
Remember the night of the long knives?
Think how much easier it be to do now...
Has there been testing on the battery effect of different wireless network modes, including while being connected to Wi-Fi?
I understand that 5G uses more battery, but I'm curious how that is affected when you remain connected to Wi-Fi for all data transfers (using 5G just for calls and texts).
Same question for the other network modes, like LTE/3G/2G vs LTE/2G etc. Or also when you are not connected to Wi-Fi.
I can't help worry that some people are getting bad battery life because they have a poor network signal?
Only rough but very little difference between 4g and WiFi when still, and that's in a location with 2 bars signal. Seems like the phone sleeps better with mobile data on.
It's hard to make a direct comparison with WiFi Vs network, as a lot of the network drain is when moving and polling for new antenna. When looking at signal strength, 4g/5g have the same dBm and 3g/2g have the same dBm, but 4g needs less dBm for a higher transfer rate than 3g, so may use less power over time.
Also I don't think 5g is inherently more power hungry than 4g (I may be wrong), again it's just less available and shorter radio waves, and until now 5g has relied on external modems.
Exactly, I wonder if our S21 Ultra is much better with battery life on 5G, because our SoC includes the 5G modem and it's not external?
My desire is to just keep my phone on 5G while I'm at home idle and the phone is connected to home Wi-Fi. I wonder if there is a battery savings to be had if I switch to LTE while I'm at home on Wi-Fi and the phone is just idle.

General Battery life and optimization

During intensive initial days I get 4-5 SOT and 12h use time. This is with mid heavy usage.
My battery starts today attached:
- over 7h music streaming partially on Chromecast partially bt
- over 1h YouTube (45min in browser)
- 40min Teams video call
- over 30min photos and videos in two camera apps
- 1h of Opera browsing
- Gmail, messenger, maps and all other apps in constant synchronization
- last.fm and pebble running in background
From the list you can clearly see that the only stand behavior is connected to AOD which was over 1%/h so I have disabled it.
Hello
As I understand in my daily use, mixed WiFi - 4g, you can reach 5h.30min ost. Maybe is necessary some adjustments on 4g/5g modem, it sucks a little bit of battery WiFi is the best, the graph is linear.
Attached my mixed 4g/WiFi experience, during today. I forgot kill YouTube, I did 2hr screen total. As you can see in WiFi the graph is linear (untill the middle), while on 4g (2nd half), the curve began to drop more steeply.
Starting to learn how to use this phone.
No complains at all. Can't kill the battery in one day. Most of the screen time is at evenings at lower brightness but I do work so it's my natural usage.
After disabling always on screen, 5G, Google tracking and backup I easily get over 6h SOT and less than 40% battery drain during 24h.
Battery is very good and there's no doubt about it.
I get about 3.5h SOT for 80% battery, no 5g, no AOS, dynamic mode, screen 90hz, no gaming, no apps with heavy drain
I lost 3% over 9 hours last night while the phone was on my bedside table,this was the first night,i think the phone is deep sleeping properly?i have restricted quite alot of apps from running in background
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7.5+ hours of SOT is possible. Here I reach 7 hours and 13 minutes of SOT from 90% to 8%. Ultra durable mode, no 5G, no mobile data always active in developer options, all WiFi, and Facebook services disabled. Brightness is set to auto.
To those who's looking for compact phone, superb performance, 120hz display, great speaker, and good battery life, go on with Zenfone 8. Here's my SOT on my Zenfone 8 with force 90hz enabled. Cheers
It looks like the last update improves the battery life quite a bit. Only free hours so no hard claims but the impression is heavy.
Kemez said:
It looks like the last update improves the battery life quite a bit. Only free hours so no hard claims but the impression is heavy.
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Can you specified which “last update” you talking about?
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Can you specified which “last update” you talking about?
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The one I got today: 30.11.51.67
I have updated the phone at 70% and got brilliant times afterwards. Over 5:15h SOT and 15h since charged with 20% still left.
Kemez said:
The one I got today: 30.11.51.67
I have updated the phone at 70% and got brilliant times afterwards. Over 5:15h SOT and 15h since charged with 20% still left.
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I can confirm this. Updated to the latest firmware and boom battery was improved !
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I can confirm this. Updated to the latest firmware and boom battery was improved !
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Could you please tell me how is the standby drain? Is it more than 1%/h during the night sleep?
avatar_ro said:
Could you please tell me how is the standby drain? Is it more than 1%/h during the night sleep?
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I get between 1,3 - 1,8 percent during night in deep sleep. Confirmed by AccuBattery.
Kemez said:
I get between 1,3 - 1,8 percent during night in deep sleep. Confirmed by AccuBattery.
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thank you for the reply, but could you be more specific? the drain you mentioned is per hour or per entire night?
It's per hour.
You can get probably less when switching off connection of data. I am leaving the phone fully ready as I have used it during the day - just put in ultra durable mode.
Jusr for info, after watching a teardown video I realized he battery is actually 3835mah not 4000 !

Question What is your standby battery drain rate?

The lowest I've been able to get it down to is like 0.7%/hour.
On my old mate 10 pro i was consistently 0.3-0.5% per hour but with the S21 Ultra im consistently 3-4% per hour and i have all the same apps installed and same usage patterns, first phone ive ever owned where i need to put the phone on aeroplane mode a few hours a day just to get me through to bedtime, even on aeroplane mode i cant get it under 1% per hour definitely wont be staying with Samsung after my contract runs out, they dont give a toss about battery life
According to GSam Battery monitor : 2.3% per hour
adamlee2012 said:
Are you moving around a lot with phone in pocket? Airplane mode doesn't solve the camera service wakelock while it's moving it activates auto focus to prevent camera shake, it's a common drain and Samsung say it's working so they won't fix it. We've started a petition and need as many people as possible to sign it. Temporary solution is to turn sensors off.
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yes im an extremely active person who walks between 10-20k steps a day according to Samsung health, im fully aware of this wakelock and have signed the petition, i done a city break in Dublin with someone who had a 5 year old Huawei the other week and it outlasted my S21Ultra, quite frankly its embarrassing for Samsung, i have the Samsung upgrade program and i did plan to get the new Ultra every year but because of the battery life there is no way im remaining with Samsung after my contract expires, yes the camera, performance, screen and UI is in my opinion the best out there but its all pretty pointless if the battery can only last 12hrs or so when on the move
At night time I'm registering the same 0.3%/hr as with the old Mate 20 pro, but that's with Wi-Fi off and power saving mode.
Mind you, that's not exactly stellar considering the 20% battery size difference and the 5nm vs 7nm process.
During the day it varies too much depending on how many emails I get - even when in standby, but 0.5-1%/hr on a good day.
All taken from Accubattery, same as with previous phones.
BTW...it's embarrassing, but I turned off Google Fit tracking and resort to a smart watch for step and activities tracking...it was indeed burning the battery quite fast.

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Please post how much freedom and autonomy does your phone let you enjoy and your app usage time with the help of battery usage screenshots
Not bad, efficient SOC bundled with a 5000 mAh power-pack and 6.43 inch AMOLED display. SOT = 60 hours 12 min
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The battery is ok, but, I have a standby drain of about 25% overnight in a 6 to 7 hrs period!, wifi on, syncing just gmail in one account, dark mode on, no screen lighting upon notifications, bluetooth off, location off, haptic on, brightness at 40%, good operator signal on 3G, this iw driving me crazy! I had a galaxy note 10+ exynos (that I gave to my son) that drained less than 1% per hour at idle, and syncing everything, max resolution, running in performnace mode, etc, I just do not undersatand why this redmi note 10 eats battery like crazy, despite hqving lower specs than the galaxy note10+, but, in the end, you get what you pay for, no more, and most of the times, even less…
To figure out the culprit behind such phantom battery drains I find installing GSam Battery Monitor helpful.
Install it and let it run for a few charge discharge cycles and post screenshots to see actual usage vs standby drain
winoles said:
The battery is ok, but, I have a standby drain of about 25% overnight in a 6 to 7 hrs period!, wifi on, syncing just gmail in one account, dark mode on, no screen lighting upon notifications, bluetooth off, location off, haptic on, brightness at 40%, good operator signal on 3G, this iw driving me crazy! I had a galaxy note 10+ exynos (that I gave to my son) that drained less than 1% per hour at idle, and syncing everything, max resolution, running in performnace mode, etc, I just do not undersatand why this redmi note 10 eats battery like crazy, despite hqving lower specs than the galaxy note10+, but, in the end, you get what you pay for, no more, and most of the times, even less…
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Looks like you brought it from 17% - 25% overnight drain down to 1% after optimizing your device? Try GSam
winoles said:
I have this device since August 27th, after setting it up, I started optimizing it, restricted background use for a lot of apps, well, everything that could be disabled or restricted, I only gave free pass to apps I consider important, but, the reults were really bad, 17% of overnight drain! Long story short, the optimization must be done very carefully, trying to stop all kind of things might prove negative, by trial and error, I now get a good battery life, now it barely consumes 1% in 8-9 hrs idling at night, aod off, wifi on, gps on, so, try to optimize your device carefully
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Here are some tips to improve standby time by hibernating background apps using the Greenify app
How to Optimize Your Android Phone’s Battery Life with Greenify
At this point, smartphones are prolific. We use them for calls, text messages, social networking, photos, quick searches, streaming music, watching videos…the list goes on. But each thing you do drains your battery life, and some apps will even continue to drain your battery in the background...
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I get around 20 hrs of backup with moderate gaming about 1 hour... Lots of fb youtube.. and also decent standby..
I use dark mode turning of individual apps..(coz it's glitchy).
I use automatic brightness..
auto brightness always on dark mode, sometimes I go two to three days without charging if I don't use much.
When gaming and watching youtube, browsing the web I usually put my phone on charge at around 50-40% battery life late at night and take it off charge either before I go to sleep or when I wake up. I've been VERY happy with my battery life on this device, I've never had any smartphone last this long in my life and it plays the PS2 (AetherSX2 app) games I want to as well, such a great cheap device.
For today my phone has been on for 26 hours and it's at 66% but I didn't use it that much, I played maybe one DB legends match, caught a few pokemon in pokemon go and watched some youtube vids.
I'm on global 12.5.15
edit: 30 minutes later and I am on 65% battery down from 66%
edit: so this morning about 10 hours after my previous edit I put my phone on charge at 51% battery life.
winoles said:
The battery is ok, but, I have a standby drain of about 25% overnight in a 6 to 7 hrs period!, wifi on, syncing just gmail in one account, dark mode on, no screen lighting upon notifications, bluetooth off, location off, haptic on, brightness at 40%, good operator signal on 3G, this iw driving me crazy! I had a galaxy note 10+ exynos (that I gave to my son) that drained less than 1% per hour at idle, and syncing everything, max resolution, running in performnace mode, etc, I just do not undersatand why this redmi note 10 eats battery like crazy, despite hqving lower specs than the galaxy note10+, but, in the end, you get what you pay for, no more, and most of the times, even less…
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was there an issue with earlier versions of MIUI or something? coz I've only gotten my phone for about two months now and I've never been happier with a phone's battery life
Guys I recently got a Redmi Note 11 and so far battery life has been great, but Cell Standby is draining the most battery. Why? Even though its always connected to Wifi and I'm using only 1 sim card. Never had this issue with my other android phones.
Ryan Diesel said:
Guys I recently got a Redmi Note 11 and so far battery life has been great, but Cell Standby is draining the most battery. Why? Even though its always connected to Wifi and I'm using only 1 sim card. Never had this issue with my other android phones.
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this isn't for the redmi note 11
See attached. Guess those processes are what cause not great idle battery usage for the 10s (maybe ALL mtk g95 devices? ).
Anyone with an idea if
* those can be killed without affecting anything else?
* what exactly is "vendor.mediatek.hardware.pq" doing?
And since its named "pq" is this related to the oversharpening issues?
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this isn't for the redmi note 11
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I couldn't find a thread specifically for Note 11 so I posted here. Its MIUI, its the same whether its 10S or 11, hence I asked.
kenshinta said:
See attached. Guess those processes are what cause not great idle battery usage for the 10s (maybe ALL mtk g95 devices? ).
Anyone with an idea if
* those can be killed without affecting anything else?
* what exactly is "vendor.mediatek.hardware.pq" doing?
And since its named "pq" is this related to the oversharpening issues?
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yeah so basically you can kill pq by deleting one file in /vendor/etc/init, but doing that will result in broken color mode stuff, meaning no reading mode, no saturated mode etc.
So, I had to reformat my 10s after it began acting funny (lots of random reboots, weird behaviour.. )
(PS: never let your phone run down to zero - I've read this somewhere that it causes corruption somewhere and I think this is what happened to mine)
Great timing miui 13 global is available, so now have the reason to upgrade from 12.5
and now... the pq process I saw running all the time eating CPU is gone or at least running sane now, as shown in the screenshot.
Ongoing monitoring of battery but this is a great start, and a great reason to jump to miui 13.
I charge between 20%-80% that means i get 60% of alloted use and i get 5-6 hours SOT on light usage , browsing chrome and watching YouTube(10% charge per 60 minutes basically), when i do heavy activities like emulating ps 2 games (Aethersx2) it drains from 80% to 20% in around 2hours.
winoles said:
The battery is ok, but, I have a standby drain of about 25% overnight in a 6 to 7 hrs period!, wifi on, syncing just gmail in one account, dark mode on, no screen lighting upon notifications, bluetooth off, location off, haptic on, brightness at 40%, good operator signal on 3G, this iw driving me crazy! I had a galaxy note 10+ exynos (that I gave to my son) that drained less than 1% per hour at idle, and syncing everything, max resolution, running in performnace mode, etc, I just do not undersatand why this redmi note 10 eats battery like crazy, despite hqving lower specs than the galaxy note10+, but, in the end, you get what you pay for, no more, and most of the times, even less…
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I get 1-2% overnight drain

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