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Hey Guys,
i'm really tempted to buy an Xperia XZ1 Compact, but am really wondering if i can live with the Restrictions Sony 'implemented'. I read some threads, but am still unsure about some facts.
I thought Id write down what i found out, would you mind to correct any conclusion that is wrong? (As of 2018 Mar 21)
1) By unlocking the Bootloader, the DRM-Keys are lost forever, thereby warranty is likely void
2) By now there is no way to backup the DRM-Keys. There is a Bounty-Program for finding a solution, but by now that isnt solved, and it seems more unlikely that a solution might pop up anytime soon.
3) It is possible to unlock every Bootloader, even those with status "allowed: no"
4) Sony provides an official way to unlock the Bootloader, but that renders the Camera (and some other Features) unusable.
5) There is a DRM-Fix that simulates the DRM-Keys, so it is possible to use the Camera and other Special Features without any downside, aside that the original DRM-Keys are gone forever.
6) If not rooted, it is always possible to downgrade the Firmware to a Version that is compatible with XperiFIX
7) Even without Root, it is possible to uninstall every unwanted Package over ADB
8) Even without Root, it is possible to disable/delete unwanted sounds like Startup/Shutter/Screenshot etc...
Would be really glad if you could correct anything that might be wrong, so i can really decide if could live with those limitations!
Thankin u! :good:
dafunkydan said:
Hey Guys,
i'm really tempted to buy an Xperia XZ1 Compact, but am really wondering if i can live with the Restrictions Sony 'implemented'. I read some threads, but am still unsure about some facts.
I thought Id write down what i found out, would you mind to correct any conclusion that is wrong? (As of 2018 Mar 21)
1) By unlocking the Bootloader, the DRM-Keys are lost forever, thereby warranty is likely void
2) By now there is no way to backup the DRM-Keys. There is a Bounty-Program for finding a solution, but by now that isnt solved, and it seems more unlikely that a solution might pop up anytime soon.
3) It is possible to unlock every Bootloader, even those with status "allowed: no"
4) Sony provides an official way to unlock the Bootloader, but that renders the Camera (and some other Features) unusable.
5) There is a DRM-Fix that simulates the DRM-Keys, so it is possible to use the Camera and other Special Features without any downside, aside that the original DRM-Keys are gone forever.
6) If not rooted, it is always possible to downgrade the Firmware to a Version that is compatible with XperiFIX
7) Even without Root, it is possible to uninstall every unwanted Package over ADB
8) Even without Root, it is possible to disable/delete unwanted sounds like Startup/Shutter/Screenshot etc...
Would be really glad if you could correct anything that might be wrong, so i can really decide if could live with those limitations!
Thankin u! :good:
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add bluetooth problems to your list of cons.
Sent from my G8441 using Tapatalk
With the Bootloader unlocked, you won't receive OTA updates anymore.
jbarba76 said:
add bluetooth problems to your list of cons.
Sent from my G8441 using Tapatalk
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No Bluetooth problems here.
dafunkydan said:
so i can really decide if could live with those limitations!
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The DRM fix made by sToRm// works on any firmware (next release) and any XZ device.
The DRM that sony installed is broken when you unlock your bootloader and sToRm//'s fix enables it. So there is no loss of quality with the camera, it's exactly as stock. The DRM is fixed or broken, the camera is fixed or broken, there is no half way 'dodgy' pictures that people imagine.
Yes, you won't receive any OTA updates if your phone is rooted, but there is Xperiafirm and Newflasher, to keep you up to date. Then reflash with sToRm//'s app and you're good to go.
Yes, you can delete or disable apps you don't want without root.
Disabling sounds needs no special permissions and the level of tweaking as to what apps make visible/audible notifications on Oreo is superb.
In the old days you wanted to root your phone to control all the battery eating apps, but Google/Sony have been aware of the drive to extend battery life for a long time now and with a few exceptions, changing the configuration of the services will probably make your battery worse not better. The battery life on the XZ1 compact is the best of any phone I've had, straight out the box, no tweaking required.
The only other main driver for rooting your phone was to be able to customise it and change the frramework colours, but you can do that without root now.
Be sure you want to root you phone for the right reasons, not because it's fashionable, or because you want Xposed installed so that when you press the volume the flash comes on.
There's a chance you'll break your phone in the process, so is what you want to root your phone for important enough to have to buy a new phone for?
I'm not trying to put you off, but if you read sToRm//'s thread, there's loads of people getting into a real mess trying to root when they don't even know what ADB is. They've unlocked their phones, broken the camera, but now stuck unable to get the fix to work. Don't go there.
Hi there. Just giving my two cents here.
First the op is right I think in everything he said. I'm just not sure what the unlock bootloader part but other than that looks legit. It's a great idea for topic because Sony really screwed up some things in this phone. I had a z3 compact before which lasted like 2 years until I decided to upgrade to a s8 last year. Great phone but I really didn't like the size so decided to switch back to this. Overall I like it but the limitations Sony has put are ridiculous and defeat the whole purpose of getting an android.
Anyways I wanted to root because I use VPN and as a result I couldn't get a decent ad block solution because of that. Now with root I can use adaway and mimminguard while using VPN so I'm happy. Anyways I bought the phone on a online shop with only 3 month warranty. As it expires next week I decided to give it a go during the weekend.
With xperifix its really a simple process the dev made a great job. I'm far from being an expert in Android stuff and I could do it almost hassle free. So if you really want to root the phone and don't care about the TA or warranty go for it. Otherwise stay out of it as the last user said
Good day.
I had several Android phones, and all rooted except the lastest two, Galaxy S8 and Sony xperia XZ1 compact.
I see no real advantage in rooting latelly, Android OS has become more mature and apps like xposed, titanium backup, greenify are no longer needed IMO.
I used xposed for astetic purpose.
Now is possible to backup Apps and data with Xperia Backup, it is possible to freeze system apps with BK disabler, so i no longer need Titanium backup.
I can force doze the phone with Naptime, and apps are hibernated earlier, so no longer need for Greenify.
Not worth loosing warranty.
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Good day.
I had several Android phones, and all rooted except the lastest two, Galaxy S8 and Sony xperia XZ1 compact.
I see no real advantage in rooting latelly, Android OS has become more mature and apps like xposed, titanium backup, greenify are no longer needed IMO.
I used xposed for astetic purpose.
Now is possible to backup Apps and data with Xperia Backup, it is possible to freeze system apps with BK disabler, so i no longer need Titanium backup.
I can force doze the phone with Naptime, and apps are hibernated earlier, so no longer need for Greenify.
Not worth loosing warranty.
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+ you can theme with substratum without root. i really cannot see why people bother with root these days.
edit: not trying to be contentious, i get that some people still love to root for some niche mods. i just mean that compared to five years ago when i needed a tonne of mods to get my galaxy s3 looking and feeling nice, there seems to be much less need for it with a device/OS this good and so many great rootless mods.
Is it possible to encrypt the device with a password at boot, with pin+fingerprint and only user fingerprint at boot?
i'm looking to strengthen my security with a new device and upgrade from z3 compact, but still unsure. love the compact, hate DRM-stuff of sony
luminoso said:
Is it possible to encrypt the device with a password at boot, with pin+fingerprint and only user fingerprint at boot?
i'm looking to strengthen my security with a new device and upgrade from z3 compact, but still unsure. love the compact, hate DRM-stuff of sony
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The phone partiton is encrypted by default.
You only need to set either pin unlock or pattern unlock (both have fingerprint option) and that will lock the phone and make the partition unreadable, no MTP access or recovery access via TWRP.
If you want to read the phone in TWRP then you need to have set the pin unlock and TWRP will ask you for the pin to continue.
This doesn't apply to the external SD card.
Fingerprint unlock to boot? you've been watching too many spy movies.
1) By unlocking the Bootloader, the DRM-Keys are lost forever, thereby warranty is likely void
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Keys are lost, warranty not necessarily. I unlocked bootloader on a Z1 compact and had to sent it later to Sony because of defect battery and they fixed it without complaints.
2) By now there is no way to backup the DRM-Keys. There is a Bounty-Program for finding a solution, but by now that isnt solved, and it seems more unlikely that a solution might pop up anytime soon.
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Yes, not sure when or if ever a vulnerability that allows root acces will be found. For Tablet Z4 it took very long time until I could backup my keys (~ 1.5 years as far as I remember)
4) Sony provides an official way to unlock the Bootloader, but that renders the Camera (and some other Features) unusable.
5) There is a DRM-Fix that simulates the DRM-Keys, so it is possible to use the Camera and other Special Features without any downside, aside that the original DRM-Keys are gone forever.
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Seems to be solved (did not test it). But not perfect solution of course. Needs for example additional steps on every firmware update.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz1-compact/development/kernel-sony-xz1-compact-16-january-2018-t3736068
6) If not rooted, it is always possible to downgrade the Firmware to a Version that is compatible with XperiFIX
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Yes, no problem. Use FlashTool and XperiFirm. Doesn't matter if bootloader unlocked or not. In some cases you may need to reset data to factory default too on downgrade. It may be wise to backup firmware packages when new version is released because you can download only latest and second latest in XperiFirm. Older get removed!
7) Even without Root, it is possible to uninstall every unwanted Package over ADB
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Sadly no, you can only disable system apps. You would need read/write access to system partition which you cannot get without root.
Examples of uninstallable apps: "Amazon Kindle", "Amazon Shopping", "AVG Protection", "Facebook", "Facebook App Manager", "Spotify", "Talkback".... oh Sony )
8) Even without Root, it is possible to disable/delete unwanted sounds like Startup/Shutter/Screenshot etc...
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No startup sound present at all.
Shutter sound can be disabled in Camera settings.
Screenshot sound cannot be disabled.
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Examples of uninstallable apps: "Amazon Kindle", "Amazon Shopping", "AVG Protection", "Facebook", "Facebook App Manager", "Spotify", "Talkback".... oh Sony )
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You can uninstall all of those,, permanaently, without root, perhaps you are unfamiliar with ADB?
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You can uninstall all of those,
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Thanks for the hint. The end of your linked article mentions that these apps are still not deleted from device. They are just deleted for default user (user 0). It is a little bit better than disabling the app because if they are "uninstalled" by mentioned adb command the don't show up in your Settings -> App list anymore, but you will not free space on device.
I just tested it before, no change on free storage size after "pm uninstall...".
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Thanks for the hint. The end of your linked article mentions that these apps are still not deleted from device. They are just deleted for default user (user 0). It is a little bit better than disabling the app because if they are "uninstalled" by mentioned adb command the don't show up in your Settings -> App list anymore, but you will not free space on device.
I just tested it before, no change on free storage size after "pm uninstall...".
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Are you leaving the '-k' switch in?
pm uninstall -k --user 0 "package name goes here"
the 'k' switch preserves the folder and data and I'n not entirely sure why the example of how to uninstall shows that configuration.
If you delete without that switch, it will infact remove the files
pm uninstall --user 0 "packagenamegoeshere"
Think about it before rooting or mess up the phone.
I already wrote this in another thread.
Seriously, it's not KitKat days anymore guys. Besides adblockers, what do u need root for since Android Oreo? And I mean really useful stuff, not theming or or freaking sounds...
And about the damn ad blocker, u can Google it and u will find a few ways to have it, without root.
.... Or maybe it's just me getting older so I don't see any reason to bother about it ???
BK disabler for XZ1 compact?
I checked out BK disabler in Play store, it says it's for Samsung only and it's a paid app with no trial version. However I did notice in reviews (if I pick "From this device model only") that someone with XZ1 compact gives this app 5 stars. Is this a better way to deal with unwanted uninstallable apps than ADB?
Hansoliv said:
Good day.
I had several Android phones, and all rooted except the lastest two, Galaxy S8 and Sony xperia XZ1 compact.
I see no real advantage in rooting latelly, Android OS has become more mature and apps like xposed, titanium backup, greenify are no longer needed IMO.
I used xposed for astetic purpose.
Now is possible to backup Apps and data with Xperia Backup, it is possible to freeze system apps with BK disabler, so i no longer need Titanium backup.
I can force doze the phone with Naptime, and apps are hibernated earlier, so no longer need for Greenify.
Not worth loosing warranty.
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strate aero said:
I checked out BK disabler in Play store, it says it's for Samsung only and it's a paid app with no trial version. However I did notice in reviews (if I pick "From this device model only") that someone with XZ1 compact gives this app 5 stars. Is this a better way to deal with unwanted uninstallable apps than ADB?
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Good day.
. Sorry, i totally forgot it was a paid app, i bought it for my Galaxy S8 last year. It seems that the last version is 10.9 that works in all android.
And i followed this instruction. (https://kunkunsoft.wordpress.com/setup_device_owner_2/)
I personally use the app, because i freeze apps i only use sometimes, like facebook or instagram, and don't want them to be in the app drawer and using resources in the background.
If you only want to freeze bloatware and uninstalable and forget about them, is better (and cheaper) doing it by adb.
(Recently i read an article that disabling apps does not have any impact in battery consumption whatsoever)
BTW, if you do not want your games or apps like facebook be running in background and use resources, you could try App Ops (this one is free, i promise).
I use it for my games, facebook and google play store (the most known battery hoggers) (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rikka.appops)
Hansoliv said:
Good day.
. Sorry, i totally forgot it was a paid app, i bought it for my Galaxy S8 last year. It seems that the last version is 10.9 that works in all android.
And i followed this instruction. (https://kunkunsoft.wordpress.com/setup_device_owner_2/)
I personally use the app, because i freeze apps i only use sometimes, like facebook or instagram, and don't want them to be in the app drawer and using resources in the background.
If you only want to freeze bloatware and uninstalable and forget about them, is better (and cheaper) doing it by adb.
(Recently i read an article that disabling apps does not have any impact in battery consumption whatsoever)
BTW, if you do not want your games or apps like facebook be running in background and use resources, you could try App Ops (this one is free, i promise).
I use it for my games, facebook and google play store (the most known battery hoggers) (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rikka.appops)
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Hi,
Thanks for the reply, I actually don't mind paying for an app if it works well on my device. It would only bother me if I bought it only to find out it didn't work (I guess I could request a refund) anyway I was just trying to verify that it indeed did work with XZ1 compact. I read the instructions in the link and using BK Disabler is a bit more involved than just installing the app and using it to freeze other apps. You need to temporarily remove all your accounts and use ADB!
The main app I'm trying to get rid of is What's New, I have already disabled everything else I don't want. For some reason Sony won't let that app be disabled the regular way.
Thanks for the tip about App Ops , looks like it needs to used by ADB and needs "a little bit troublesome setup steps" in the words of the developer, oh well, I guess I'll try looking into this a little further but no matter what I'll be needing to use ADB to get the job done
strate aero said:
Hi,
Thanks for the reply, I actually don't mind paying for an app if it works well on my device. It would only bother me if I bought it only to find out it didn't work (I guess I could request a refund) anyway I was just trying to verify that it indeed did work with XZ1 compact. I read the instructions in the link and using BK Disabler is a bit more involved than just installing the app and using it to freeze other apps. You need to temporarily remove all your accounts and use ADB!
The main app I'm trying to get rid of is What's New, I have already disabled everything else I don't want. For some reason Sony won't let that app be disabled the regular way.
Thanks for the tip about App Ops , looks like it needs to used by ADB and needs "a little bit troublesome setup steps" in the words of the developer, oh well, I guess I'll try looking into this a little further but no matter what I'll be needing to use ADB to get the job done
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If you're going to the trouble of setting up ADB, you don't need any apps to disable a service.
Didgesteve said:
If you're going to the trouble of setting up ADB, you don't need any apps to disable a service.
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Hi,
Thanks for your reply, I checked out your link. Apparently to get rid of What's New I would have to remove package com.sonymobile.entrance ,right? I was noticing in that thread a few users were reporting that they needed to reset their devices because they apparently removed something they weren't supposed to but they didn't say what that was. Is What's New somehow linked to System Update or something else that might be important? Should I maybe leave it alone just wondering why Sony wouldn't allow that app to be disabled if it wasn't important somehow
I decided to remove BK disabler and force doze and let the phone be. It seems that having some apps disabled that way confuse the OS and it uses more battery.
I will try and use the method above and remove What's New and Support app, and leave the OS manage things.
I didn't come for a lecture on how the phone will automatically sleep apps I don't use or how I can just live with it. I just want to clean the clutter from my phone. I don't use Bixby, nor do I want stickers in my camera, nor do I want 80% of my app drawer being taken up by crap I will never ever touch.
Oh and I'm not buying a pixel, they are ugly and I can't draw on one.
I used to use bk disabler but now it won't go past the sdk loading screen.
What do you guys use that doesn't involve adb or rooting.
BriniaSona said:
I didn't come for a lecture on how the phone will automatically sleep apps I don't use or how I can just live with it. I just want to clean the clutter from my phone. I don't use Bixby, nor do I want stickers in my camera, nor do I want 80% of my app drawer being taken up by crap I will never ever touch.
Oh and I'm not buying a pixel, they are ugly and I can't draw on one.
I used to use bk disabler but now it won't go past the sdk loading screen.
What do you guys use that doesn't involve adb or rooting.
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Their site has a post explaining how to get the app to work on the latest software update. You'll have to use adb.
Use adhell 3, it's not on xda so you'll need to Google it but it works fine
Sounds like you want an iPhone ??
BriniaSona said:
I didn't come for a lecture on how the phone will automatically sleep apps I don't use or how I can just live with it. I just want to clean the clutter from my phone. I don't use Bixby, nor do I want stickers in my camera, nor do I want 80% of my app drawer being taken up by crap I will never ever touch.
Oh and I'm not buying a pixel, they are ugly and I can't draw on one.
I used to use bk disabler but now it won't go past the sdk loading screen.
What do you guys use that doesn't involve adb or rooting.
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This works
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.powermanager.batteryaddon
The disablers dont work with android 8. You can use sabs is clearly the beast option and best disabler ever. Before open threads search into the site.
Amaranth` said:
The disablers dont work with android 8. You can use sabs is clearly the beast option and best disabler ever. Before open threads search into the site.
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Package Disabler Pro+ (Samsung) works fine for me on Oreo.
StevePritchard said:
Package Disabler Pro+ (Samsung) works fine for me on Oreo.
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Maybe after the last update. But sabs still mutch better. Is not only a disabler. Can try both.
Uninstalling via adb is so much more easier and hassle-free. You can find a very small package with just the minimum required on the forum. No need of Knox key, Android studio, generating key every 3 months, not knowing when it will be discontinued or if it will still work with the next update, etc.
You can just install them back when needed.
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Uninstalling via adb is so much more easier and hassle-free. You can find a very small package with just the minimum required on the forum. No need of Knox key, Android studio, generating key every 3 months, not knowing when it will be discontinued or if it will still work with the next update, etc.
You can just install them back when needed.
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No need for android studio, there is apk which just need renaming.
Ok it is by far the more complicated app to install, but also by far the best, much better from any other solution, and the one with by far the best battery.
If you can, you go for sabs, if not this is the best alternative
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I've been using Package Disabler Pro + (Samsung) by policedeveloper and it works flawlessly...
There's another topic you might want to check out regarding this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/package-disabler-pro-samsung-vs-bk-t3617455/page4
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No need for android studio, there is apk which just need renaming.
Ok it is by far the more complicated app to install, but also by far the best, much better from any other solution, and the one with by far the best battery.
If you can, you go for sabs, if not this is the best alternative
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Since SABS is discontinued I won't recommend it and you'll still need a key to be generated every 90 days if not banned beforehand. Plus, an other app to install to rename the package and this method was never supported by the devs.
If I recall what was said on the thread well, it never fully disallowed the disabled packages to still run in the background.
It can't be better than just uninstalling the unwanted app for the current user which require nothing than a 9 MB to install on your computer.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
Then
Code:
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.yourpackage
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Since SABS is discontinued I won't recommend it and you'll still need a key to be generated every 90 days if not banned beforehand. Plus, an other app to install to rename the package and this method was never supported by the devs.
If I recall what was said on the thread well, it never fully disallowed the disabled packages to still run in the background.
It can't be better than just uninstalling the unwanted app for the current user which require nothing than a 9 MB to install on your computer.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
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Actually sabs is still unofficially updating. Last version is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/8cp46f/notsabs_version_100_changelog/
After first installation it is a peace of cake to update. To renew key, i spend under 1 minute... 1 minute every 3 + months (it still work some times to 4 months.) is nothing for me.. On the other hand, i have friends who can't do it, so i do it for them.. I suppose we doesn't all have same knowledge..
It doesn't need continuing update as it has specific target which is fulfilled as it is..
Something that you don't know. Search it if you think i am wrong, i am not: By the adb command you posted you do EXACTLY what sabs does. You just use a pc for this. You don't really uninstall an app. You just hide it from os. You don't earn the mb of the app, as the app still stay installed. Just os doesn't see it. Just for information. I can understand that some people find it hard to use sabs. It's a good thing we have options.
One thing is 100% sure though. There is not better way than sabs. No pc, no adb, no anything. Nothing is better and more battery friendly. But yes, it is the most complicated for installing. Some people just can't do it or doesn't want to spent the time for installing it. It's very understantudable this..
I know why the OP said he doesn't want a lecture. Of course you're always gonna get the comments about why buy a SSamsung.Well I like the way it operates....generally. But I've not found any Android that provides the very customizable email app I like...including Samsung. But their email app keeps running even though I've never uusd it. The "it doesn't affect battery life" mantra is crap. When you're doing something intensive, EVERYTHING running in the background lags you more and more.
I had Package Disabler...quit working. I paid for BK disabler...quit working. I just tried Package Disabler Pro+, crashed everytime I tried to disable anything.
Not everyone has quick access to a PC. Mine crashed, then Oreo updates, screws everything up so I have to factory reset...without a computer, ADB or a working disabler.
In addition to email, Smart Things constantly wants to run and I don't own any smart equipment to use it with. So why can't you even disable it? WithTV??? ANT??? Does anyone use ALL of the apps on their phone? If not then it would be nice to be able to disable what you don't want. And the space waste Uber, Briefing, ad infinitum, you should have the rights to delete them, not just disable. When you pay 3 car payments for a phone, you expect it to work the way you want it.
>>>Off my soapbox. But that's why I bought a Samsung and why I want a working disabler too.
If you own a Samsung device and you want a full package disabler and adblocker come to the alliancex website and download the alliance x shield full package disabler APN changer and Ad blocker all without root.
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If you own a Samsung device and you want a full package disabler and adblocker come to the alliancex website and download the alliance x shield full package disabler APN changer and Ad blocker all without root.
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It doesn't seems to be a very active project. Plus, having to post to enable features...
That was an old requirement they did away with the poat rule.The alliance x shield works great
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That was an old requirement they did away with the poat rule.The alliance x shield works great
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That's great.
It's it still an active, updated project?
Yes it's still active and we are still adding new things.If you have anything you would like to see added let me or one of the other active mods now we will discuss with developer.
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Yes it's still active and we are still adding new things.If you have anything you would like to see added let me or one of the other active mods now we will discuss with developer.
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Nice!
I'll test it as soon as I can. Sorry for the bad hasted opinion yesterday.
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Yes it's still active and we are still adding new things.If you have anything you would like to see added let me or one of the other active mods now we will discuss with developer.
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Nice!
I'll test it as soon as I can. Sorry for the bad hasted opinion yesterday
Perform at your own risk! I am not responsible for your device!
I was trying to figure out how to disable Hisearch and found the package for it. I have successfully deleted it. Hisearch is no longer present when I swipe down on a blank space.
It does not seem to be having any adverse affect on my phone.
1) Download ADB
2) Enable USB Debugging on your device
3) Connect to computer and verify your device is listed with command "adb devices"
4) Type "adb Shell"
5) Type "pm list packages", this will show you all packages installed on phone.
6) Type "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.search"
7) you should see the word "Sucess" pop up
8) enjoy having the utterly useless, ****ing annoying search gone!
Do you need root access for this to work?
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Do you need root access for this to work?
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No.
Thank You !!!!!!!! Works like a charm
Is this the same. Settings app. Smart assistance, hitouch, toggle off.
This may be wrong. Was thinking of something else.
It's a different thing, Hisearch is incredibly irritating. Will be trying this soon, as I've been looking for a way to disable it. Thanks for posting OP.
After a few days still no issues from deleting Hisearch. I will say it's safe to get rid of.
I can confirm this worked great for me too, thank goodness as it was driving me mad. Stock launcher is actually OK, except for this.
Would this work for other Huawei apps? If so, maybe we should get together a list of "safe to remove" apps?
Is there a way to extract a program somewhere in case its removal does have a negative impact? I would be willing to start removing some of the bloat but I'm a little worried that I remove something the rest of the system relies on
panrix said:
Is there a way to extract a program somewhere in case its removal does have a negative impact? I would be willing to start removing some of the bloat but I'm a little worried that I remove something the rest of the system relies on
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You can make a back-up and then restore. Or a factory reset will re-install everything.
This is awesome. Thank you.
A quick and painless way that anyone can use to get rid of this annoying non-feature.
Thank you very much for the clear instructions...
Let's hope an update doesn't re-install it!
Will give this a go later. Thanks OP ??
One question to someone who already uninstalled HiSearch.
When you go to the camera, is there still the possibility to scan things (regognizing Brands, or scanning QR-Codes)?
Or is this also gone with this package?
the_real_fosgate said:
One question to someone who already uninstalled HiSearch.
When you go to the camera, is there still the possibility to scan things (regognizing Brands, or scanning QR-Codes)?
Or is this also gone with this package?
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Still there. That is a separate package. Hivision vs Hisearch
Worked perfectly for me . Finally able to use scrollable widgets again...
THANKS
Really appreciate this. Can this method be used for disabling other stock apps, like the music app? Like half the time I start up my car, the bluetooth opens the stock app instead of Blackplayer EX (which I have designated as the default)
Just a note if someone wants to use scrollable widgets but also likes to flick down for app search. If you get used to starting your scroll with a small upward movement then it doesn't trigger hisearch to open.
(Just a tip in case anyone wants to keep search)
Slapyou said:
Really appreciate this. Can this method be used for disabling other stock apps, like the music app? Like half the time I start up my car, the bluetooth opens the stock app instead of Blackplayer EX (which I have designated as the default)
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Yes. Just a matter of deleting the right package. Backup before trying ^^
Nicelysedated said:
Perform at your own risk! I am not responsible for your device!
I was trying to figure out how to disable Hisearch and found the package for it. I have successfully deleted it. Hisearch is no longer present when I swipe down on a blank space.
It does not seem to be having any adverse affect on my phone.
1) Download ADB
2) Enable USB Debugging on your device
3) Connect to computer and verify your device is listed with command "adb devices"
4) Type "adb Shell"
5) Type "pm list packages", this will show you all packages installed on phone.
6) Type "pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.search"
7) you should see the word "Sucess" pop up
8) enjoy having the utterly useless, ****ing annoying search gone!
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Worked a treat, many many many thanks!
Worked for me ? thanks for sharing.
On another note has anyone successfully removed any of the other items on the package list without any dramas?
He I will try to advise you how to optimise and debloat your phone for better performance and battery as well as free of bloat device.
I have used this method over the years for my S10 | S10+ | S20+ | S20Ultra | S21Ultra | P40 |P40 Pro and OP8 Pro and many other phones. And works as expected.
Prerequisites:
#1. ADB AppControl
Which can be found here:
[TOOL] ADB AppControl 1.8.0 🚀 Ultimate App Manager & Debloat Tool + Tweaks
ADB AppControl 🚀 Root is not required. Works with any Android device. Can do almost everything you dreamed about with applications. ADB AppControl - the desktop program, that will allow you to easily manage applications on your android device...
forum.xda-developers.com
ADB AppControl - android applications manager and debloat tool. Official website. Free download.
Thanks to @Cyber.Cat for this application of for posting it.
#2. Windows computer or for MAC owners, Parallel Desktop to run Windows
#3. Android phone which you want to optimise
Steps for debloating bloatware:
#1. Download and install ADB AppControl from the above link
#2. Activate Developer Options: go to Settings >> About phone >> Software information >> tap 7 times on Build Number
#3. in Developer Options enable USB debugging mode
#4. Open ADB AppControl
#5. Connect your phone to your computer
#6. Allow USB connect message on your phone several times until ADB AppControl shows connect message on top
#7. Chose what applications you would like to disable or uninstall (i recommend you disable them not uninstall)
#8. From bootom right corner in ADB AppControl chose Disable option
#9. Check the box to delete cache and data [it is on top where you chosed Disable option at the previous step]
#10. Press Apply
#11. Confirm that you agree to disable the selected apps on the popup message which will appear
#12. Unplug your phone from the computer
#13. Shut down the phone
#14. Connect the phone again to your computer [being closed]
#15. Quick press Volume button + Volumne Up button until you see on your screen the logo
#16. Release the buttons
#17. Now you are into the phone recovery
#18. Chose the option to clear cache [NOT phone reset] with your power buttons
#19. Select the option to clear cache by presing the power button
#20. Chose restart phone
E voila.
There is no miracle bloatware list. It depends from phone to phone.
Being on a S21 series forum I will post what I debloated for my S21Ultra SM-G998B device.
com.android.apps.tag
com.android.bookmarkprovider
com.android.chrome
com.android.dreams.basic
com.android.dreams.phototable
com.android.hotwordenrollment.okgoogle
com.android.hotwordenrollment.xgoogle
com.android.managedprovisioning
com.android.printspooler
com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks
com.android.providers.userdictionary
com.diotek.sec.lookup.dictionary
com.facebook.services
com.facebook.system
com.facebook.appmanager
com.google.android.apps.tachyon
com.google.android.printservice.recommendation
com.google.android.projection.gearhead
com.google.android.tts
com.google.ar.core
com.google.audio.hearing.visualization.accessibility.scribe
com.justride.stbbuch
com.plantronics.headsetservice
com.samsung.android.accessibility.talkback
com.samsung.android.app.ledbackcover
com.samsung.android.app.notes
com.samsung.android.app.notes.addons
com.samsung.android.app.readingglass
com.samsung.android.app.routines
com.samsung.android.app.settings.bixby
com.samsung.android.app.spage
com.samsung.android.app.tips
com.samsung.android.ardrawing
com.samsung.android.aremoji
com.samsung.android.aremojieditor
com.samsung.android.arzone
com.samsung.android.bixby.agent
com.samsung.android.bixby.agent.dummy
com.samsung.android.bixby.service
com.samsung.android.bixby.wakeup
com.samsung.android.bixbyvision.framework
com.samsung.android.game.gamehome
com.samsung.android.game.gametools
com.samsung.android.kidsinstaller
com.samsung.android.knox.containeragent
com.samsung.android.knox.containercore
com.samsung.android.livestickers
com.samsung.android.mateagent
com.samsung.android.service.airviewdictionary
com.samsung.android.service.pentastic
com.samsung.android.service.tagservice
com.samsung.android.six.webtrans
com.samsung.android.spay
com.samsung.android.spayfw
com.samsung.android.svoiceime
com.samsung.android.visionintelligence
com.samsung.android.vtcamerasettings
com.samsung.desktopsystemui
com.samsung.knox.securefolder
com.samsung.SMT
com.sec.android.app.bluetoothtest
com.sec.android.app.desktoplauncher
com.sec.android.app.dexonpc
com.sec.android.app.kidshome
com.sec.android.app.magnifier
com.sec.android.cover.ledcover
com.sec.android.desktopmode.uiservice
com.sec.android.emergencylauncher
com.sec.android.mimage.avatarstickers
com.sec.android.widgetapp.webmanual
com.sec.spp.push
com.spotify.music
com.swiftkey.swiftkeyconfigurator
com.touchtype.swiftkey
de.axelspringer.yana.zeropage
with the above done I always get 6hrs+ of SoT and battery live of over 1day and 10hrs in a single charge with 120hz WHD+ resolution
Thanks for this method... I am using it with my S21 Ultra and works fine
So, Im trying to figure out a way to safely disable the Samsung Dialer. Ive already installed the google dialer but I broke the calls when i uninstalled it the first time. Im trying to figure out which package is the one to disable. Trying to remove as much Samsung as possible
Good to see this Debloat for the OnePlus, etc....
Excuse me, I´m totally new to the package disabling and I´m really looking forward to get it working on my new S21 Ultra. Could somebody please take some time, and explain to me what does it do and if the apps will still work even after disabling? (For example the bixby voice wakeup was disabled as seen in the screenshot, will my phone be able to get awaken via Bixby if it is disabled?)
Secondly I´d like to ask you if there is some sort of "best" list of packages to disable. I really want to maximize the battery life and performance of my device since it´ll be my inevitable workstation for couple of months.
Kind regards!
If you are new to this and your device will be an inevitable workstation for a couple of months I would wait with the most crazy debloat.
You can only disable things you know of, if you disable bixby bixby wont work, at all.
Hi everyone, if I do an OTA update the process will reinstall debloated apps?
Saluzzo97 said:
Hi everyone, if I do an OTA update the process will reinstall debloated apps?
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No.
You can double check by seeing number of installed apk in settings.
But I never had a problem with debloated app reinstalling.
lyzgaard said:
No.
You can double check by seeing number of installed apk in settings.
But I never had a problem with debloated app reinstalling.
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Thank you very much!
Hello all, it has been sometime since I rooted my phone / removed all the extra crap lol.
Is there a way to know what each Items do?
I know in the past the roms would be debloted and you had a stock rom and had the option to add what you wanted.
Thank you
Nice start with original post. I'm also looking for any further explanation or categorization of s21+ bloat please?
If uninstalled, can app be reinstalled manually from play store if desired later?
What phone is best for clean customizable ROM now?
Guessing Pixel series, but what else... OnePlus?
I've custom rom'd my s3 to s8, but now want to have Netflix working on my s21. Just don't want apps I never use taking up space and populating the share menu options, etc.
does debloating drain battery?
xkawsx said:
does debloating drain battery?
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There are a couple of apk's who can drain battery if you deleted them.
I don't remember their name but if you debolat them the phone won't get into deep sleep....
But you can always double check if the phone enters deep sleep by installing CPU Spy from Play Store.
Just a little headsup on two packages you should NEVER disable!
Device Services (com.samsung.android.kgclient) - If you disable this, you will LOCK YOURSELF OUT of your phone (Error 3020). Chances are good to recover from this if you have TWRP installed or USB debugging always enabled. Otherwise a factory reset is the only solution. Nevertheless, this is a core component and WILL cause problems if disabled.
Device Security (com.samsung.android.sm.devicesecurity) - If you disable this, app installations will take significantly longer (about 5x). Not sure why, but better leave it.
In general, if you are not 100% sure what a package does, leave it! Even if someone on the internet says "I disabled it and had no problems"... There is a high possibility that you don't achieve optimization by disabling, but crippling your device and creating lots of errors in the background you don't know about (thus using more battery).
As far as I can tell, the list in the OP seems reasonable though.
@AllAboutTech Might be helpful for beginners if you add those 2 warnings to the OP.
AtrixBomb said:
If uninstalled, can app be reinstalled manually from play store if desired later?
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You can always use ADB to re-enable apps, as long as you just disabled them (not uninstalled).
Connect to your phone via ADB and use the following command:
adb shell pm enable <package_name>
// Edit: I guess the ADB AppControl from the OP also allows to re-enable apps.
If you have uninstalled system apps, some of them might be re-installable via Play / Galaxy Store, but definitely not all.
bluediablito said:
Is there a way to know what each Items do?
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Someone over at the S20 forums made a pretty good list some time ago:
Google Sheet
Lartsch said:
Just a little headsup on two packages you should NEVER disable!
Device Services (com.samsung.android.kgclient) - If you disable this, you will LOCK YOURSELF OUT of your phone (Error 3020). Chances are good to recover from this if you have TWRP installed or USB debugging always enabled. Otherwise a factory reset is the only solution. Nevertheless, this is a core component and WILL cause problems if disabled.
Device Security (com.samsung.android.sm.devicesecurity) - If you disable this, app installations will take significantly longer (about 5x). Not sure why, but better leave it.
In general, if you are not 100% sure what a package does, leave it! Even if someone on the internet says "I disabled it and had no problems"... There is a high possibility that you don't achieve optimization by disabling, but crippling your device and creating lots of errors in the background you don't know about (thus using more battery).
As far as I can tell, the list in the OP seems reasonable though.
@AllAboutTech Might be helpful for beginners if you add those 2 warnings to the OP.
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That's strange. I always delete both of these without any poblems.
Device Security it's part of the Macfee antivirus thingy options.
I always get rid of because I think Play Protect does the job.
When I delete this all that's happens is that the Security Option is gone from Device Care Settings.
And I don't get those anyoing security notifications about enable it.
No problem with app install.
As for kgclient that's part of the Samsung Payment Service, I have never had any problems with deleting it.
That said, I have never used Samsung Pay.
Im on S21 Ultra european model unbranded right now.
lyzgaard said:
That's strange. I always delete both of these without any poblems.
Device Security it's part of the Macfee antivirus thingy options.
I always get rid of because I think Play Protect does the job.
When I delete this all that's happens is that the Security Option is gone from Device Care Settings.
And I don't get those anyoing security notifications about enable it.
No problem with app install.
As for kgclient that's part of the Samsung Payment Service, I have never had any problems with deleting it.
That said, I have never used Samsung Pay.
Im on S21 Ultra european model unbranded right now.
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Hey, that's interesting. A friend also tested and confirmed the lock out / slow install.
Is your device encrypted?
Lartsch said:
Hey, that's interesting. A friend also tested and confirmed the lock out / slow install.
Is your device encrypted?
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No I haven't encrypted it, also I don't use Secure Folder.
Maybe this has something to do with Knox Vault on encrypted phones?
Samsung Pay is also a part of the Knox vault.
Exynos, modell named SM-G998B/DS
Hey guys. I know no one asked. And I know there are 13,126 different threads across different sites for debloating your phone. Of course, none of those are universal, and none of them are tailored to the device in-question.
My device details : [NE2215 Android 13.1 - Oneplus update : EX01. This should be fine for the other models, and other update versions, but just wanted it to be understood that this is what I used, tested, and confirmed stable.
Here is my debloat thread. It breaks no core functions of the phone, but it may remove a niche thing or two that a very small percent of people use. I was not going to initially write anything up like this, I mostly do what I do for myself nowadays. I recently made a comment somewhere here showing the list of things I debloated. I will not be held responsible for any issues you may face, but I will tell you that I have run this phone with these packages removed with no issues, and only update this list after extensive testing to confirm no crashing or weirdness.
Also know, you can disable the update package (included in the .zip or 2nd preset). com.oplus.ota cannot be uninstalled, but it can be disabled. The other 2 packages that are relevant to updates are com.oplus.sau and com.oplus.romupdate, but these cannot be disabled or uninstalled.
Be advised - Always-On Display needs a TON of extra stuff which I personally do not like having enabled. Just know if you run my debloat thing, AOD won't work unless you restore the AOD dependencies. There is a spoiler at the bottom to try and help you get this back if you want. Not recommended.
On the latest 13.1 update (13.1.0.522(EX01)), OnePlus actually removed some of the bloat. So you will notice only like 130 or so from the 154 packages are "selected", but that is because a lot of the crap was removed from the system by OnePlus. I left the list with all the old stuff, just in case someone is on an older version. No harm to anyone either way.
In 13.1, they only added like 7 packages worth removing from whatever the last update was. Info on the packages in the spoiler "Info" below
Latest debloat. as of 6/17/23. No AOD as usual
There is a .bat file attached. Assuming you have ADB working, just have to double-click the .bat.
Alternatively, if you have or use ADB AppControl (basically ADB with a GUI and pretty icons) there is a .txt preset you can use. The same text can be used to "rebloat"/undo.
There is a "rebloat" batch file if you want to undo and restore everything. As usual, AOD (Always On Display) is debloated. There are instructions on how to re-enable AOD stuff, but it was a while back, and idk if still useful (OP version of AOD requires a TON of crap, be advised). But know I won't support AOD, sorry. Shouldn't be hard to fix if you read the instructions, maybe have to add/edit something, maybe not.
Below, is only a list of things removed, this is only informational, and my understanding of what those things are/do. If the section is blank, I either don't know and/or it isn't worth mentioning. This list is likely missing a few packages, but meh, nothing too major i imagine. You can compare the preset/batch file to check if/what something is missing. Currently, it tries to remove up to 154 packages (if installed). Or just ask if you have a question on a specific package.
Spoiler: Long list, so spoiler Just info.
com.android.apps.tag
Stock android fluff
com.android.bips
Stock android fluff
com.android.bluetoothmidiservice
Stock android fluff
com.android.bookmarkprovider
Stock android fluff
com.android.calllogbackup
Stock android fluff
com.android.cellbroadcastreceiver
Stock android fluff
com.android.cellbroadcastreceiver.overlay.common
Stock android fluff
com.android.cts.priv.ctsshim
Stock android fluff
com.android.dreams.basic
Stock android AOD provider. This is needed for AOD to work fully
com.android.dynsystem
Stock android fluff
com.android.egg
Stock android fluff
com.android.managedprovisioning
Stock android fluff
com.android.printspooler
Stock android fluff
com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks
Stock android fluff
com.android.stk
Stock android fluff
com.android.traceur
Stock android fluff
com.coloros.activation
E-warranty card - (iirc only applicable in china)
com.coloros.assistantscreen
realme crap
com.coloros.bootreg
per 1 post i found online : "Warranty doesn't really work outside mainland China"
com.coloros.childrenspace
com.coloros.floatassistant
oneplus assistive ball
com.coloros.operationManual
com.coloros.scenemode
simple mode
com.coloros.smartsidebar
com.coloros.systemclone
system cloner thing to backup/restore settings. meh
com.coloros.weather.service
battery-draining weather service. This is needed for AOD to work fully.
com.daemon.shelper
SPYWARE - realme
com.google.android.adservices.api
introduced in new android OS. idk, but seems ad-related. no issues since uninstall
com.google.android.apps.nbu.paisa.user
com.google.android.apps.photos
Google Photos app. No need for two. I left the oneplus photo app
com.google.android.apps.restore
Be advised. This may or may not break Factory Reset from settings menu. If apps do not restore, you will have to reset from bootloader. Be advised.
com.google.android.apps.wellbeing
Meh
com.google.android.as
Android Intelligent Services. Needed for AOD to work fully.
com.google.android.as.oss
Private Compute Services. May or may not be needed for AOD.
com.google.android.cellbroadcastreceiver
com.google.android.feedback
com.google.android.gms.location.history
Potential battery drain service
com.google.android.marvin.talkback
com.google.android.onetimeinitializer
com.google.android.overlay.modules.documentsui
com.google.android.partnersetup
com.google.android.printservice.recommendation
com.google.android.setupwizard
com.google.ar.core
I don't use Augmented Reality. Maybe people might need only for Pokemon Go type games.
com.google.ar.lens
Google lens. Take pic and google the thing you took a pic of.
com.google.mainline.adservices
introduced in new android OS. idk, but seems ad-related. no issues since uninstall
com.google.mainline.telemetry
I mean, telemetry is right in the name.
com.heytap.accessory
quick device connect "feature". this is a massive battery drain historically.
com.heytap.colorfulengine
Realme crap. This is needed for AOD to work
com.heytap.mcs
quick device connect "feature". this is a massive battery drain
com.mediatek.omacp
Notice "mediatek"... We don't use that chipset at all. This is some spyware to potentially leak carrier registration data.
com.oneplus.account
Useless. Battery drain if account added. This is one of the things that removes the oneplus account annoying setting in the Settings menu.
com.oneplus.filemanager
Crappy file manager that can't get elevated rights (like for some folders in SD card). Use google app or something better.
com.oneplus.membership
Useless. Battery drain if account added. This is one of the things that removes the oneplus account annoying setting in the Settings menu.
com.oneplus.opwlb
Work-Life balance. Annoyance, and potential high battery drain
com.oplus.aod
oneplus selection of AOD. removed since AOD doesnt work without TONS of extra services.
com.oplus.apprecover
system app reinstall bs
com.oplus.atlas
"Realme" spam
com.oplus.bttestmode
?bluetooth test for oneplus? crap
com.oplus.cast
Oneplus screencast. Per post online : #Required if you cast screen to TV or use 3rd part Screen Recording Apps
com.oplus.cosa
"app enhancement service". this is crap that kills battery. This is needed for AOD to work.
com.oplus.crashbox
realme spyware potentially. useless at best
com.oplus.customize.coreapp
com.oplus.deepthinker
"intelligent services". this is crap that kills battery. This is needed for AOD to work
com.oplus.encryption
"private safe" - yea go ahead and trust oppo with your sensitive stuff... (dont)
com.oplus.games
Self explanatory. OnePlus Games app.
com.oplus.hamlet
Dont remember. Definitely crap
com.oplus.healthservice
Crapware. Also, I can 100% agree with this info I found online from 1 post : "#Gimmick serves no purpose"
com.oplus.interconnectcollectkit
Guaranteed telemetry/spyware
com.oplus.lfeh
[needed for Gamespace if you use that]
com.oplus.linker
?some oneplus crap
com.oplus.location
Extra location telemetry. not related to any GPS functions
com.oplus.locationproxy
Extra location telemetry. not related to any GPS functions
com.oplus.logkit
spyware...
com.oplus.multiapp
Crappy app cloner. There are better stuff out there.
com.oplus.nhs
NetworkHealthService. nothing changes after removing.
com.oplus.ocs
Potential spyware? Info from 1 post online : "Chinese unique identifier privacy hazard"
com.oplus.olc
Realme crap
com.oplus.omoji
Self emoji. I guess you can leave it on, there are probably safer, better ways to do this. Can be used in AOD. Needed for full AOD functionality.
com.oplus.onet
realme
com.oplus.portrait
Portrait Silhoutte. Idk, might be related to self emoji? Not sure. Can be used in AOD. Needed for full AOD functionality.
com.oplus.postmanservice
com.oplus.qualityprotect
com.oplus.safecenter
"private safe" - yea go ahead and trust oppo with your sensitive stuff... (dont)
com.oplus.sauhelper
auto updates. (still get notices for updates)
com.oplus.securitypermission
com.oplus.smartengine
not really sure. but 1 post online says : "don't like blackbox phone manager". This is needed for AOD to work
com.oplus.sos
com.oplus.statistics.rom
telemetry
com.oplus.stdid
[needed for Gamespace]
com.oplus.stdsp
maybe similar to above
com.oplus.synergy
related to linker. heytap crapware
com.oplus.trafficmonitor
oneplus traffic monitor (monthly data usage, etc). potential telemetry
com.oplus.uiengine
no clue. has been great without it for weeks. This is needed for AOD to work.
com.qti.confuridialer
com.qti.dpmserviceapp
com.qti.qualcomm.datastatusnotification
com.qti.xdivert
com.qualcomm.atfwd
this is antique and unused crap
com.qualcomm.embms
antique qualcomm service
com.qualcomm.location
useless
com.qualcomm.qti.dynamicddsservice
com.qualcomm.qti.lpa
com.qualcomm.qti.modemtestmode
crap. but per 1 online post "Runs in background , not needed for a user"
com.qualcomm.qti.uim
remote "help" tool for them to control your device
com.qualcomm.qti.uimGbaApp
remote "help" tool for them to control your device
com.qualcomm.uimremoteclient
remote "help" tool for them to control your device
com.qualcomm.uimremoteserver
remote "help" tool for them to control your device
com.quicinc.voice.activation
Qualcomm has nothing to do with Google Assistant or always on speech recognition. crap
com.rongcard.eidapi
maybe related to chinese payments like wechat. not for us
com.ses.entitlement.o2
Crap
com.wapi.wapicertmanage
Useless for us. But here is some info from online searching " WAPI (WLAN Authentication and Privacy Infrastructure) is the wireless local area network (WLAN) standard officially supported by the Chinese state government. WAPI was initiated in 2004. In 2006, however, the International Standards Organization (ISO) rejected the incorporation of WAPI as an international WLAN security standard in 2006."
net.oneplus.weather
Oneplus weather service. Battery draining potential. Better altnernatives with google. This is needed for AOD to work fully.
changes in 13.1 EX01 (as of 6/17/23) :
newly-added and left enabled :
net.oneplus.widget oneplus widgets (clock)
com.android.remoteprovisioner likely related to the new google thing for internal key exchange and secure services. maybe their new front for "passwordless" everything idk. left it because seems it may be needed (if not now, maybe in the future)
com.oplus.metis for oneplus screen mirroring (like to show your phone on a nearby TV). i left it it bc idk how well it works, doesnt seem too intrusive
newly-added and removed
com.coloros.relax new app sounds and "games" to relax. probably what they referred to as "Zen"
com.oplus.eid 90% sure it is related for service in china. not applicable to us
com.oplus.melody oneplus headphones app (only for the oneplus brand)
com.qti.dcf not exactly sure, but likely some sort of un-needed qualcomm telemetry
com.oplus.nas OnePlus "Network Assistant". lol nope.gif
AOD will not work. This is not a bug/glitch, AOD was removed on purpose. Read all the way below to restore AOD functionality (not recommended).
Now, these apps are not actually uninstalled. The APK resides within /system somehwere, and it is not possible to remove files from SAR without breaking the OS. So instead, these are uninstalled from the user profile. Most phones only have 1 user account. Most people do not share with other people like a PC that use multiple users. In addition, I choose to use the user uninstall instead of disable because disabled packages can actually run without you knowing. Not to mention via updates or other methods, a disabled app can be re-enabled.
The apps if you choose to remove them, can actually be re-added, since they are not actually deleted. For example, if I wanted to restore the oneplus file manager, the command would be adb shell pm install-existing com.oneplus.filemanager .Simply change the package name [from the list above] you want to re-install. Let me know if anyone has any questions or concerns.
Also, I highly recommend everyone go into Developer Options, and enable the setting that says "Disable Permission Monitoring". I am not going to turn this into a "tune-up your phone thread", but I strongly advise that one thing.
Important : I do not recommend removing this package : com.oplus.athena. Removing Athena breaks the "close all" button, it also screws up some actual memory management which can lead to the system freezing and you have to force turn it off with button combo. ( I do not touch it in the script )
Notable Mention : com.oplus.eyeprotect --removing this breaks the special color modes (brilliant vibrant, cinematic). doesnt actually change colorations. ( I do not touch it in the script )
AOD =
Below you will find the commands to try enable AOD and all its dependencies (it is a LOT of crap just for AOD. There is a way to have only stock android AOD, but it's not worth it for me.) [also, there may be new things needed as of new updates, i haven't kept up with this and will no longer support it]
Here are the things you need to restore if you want AOD. Keep in mind, I restored ALL functions for ALL things related to AOD. This pretty much makes the debloat useless, because the services used are atrocious (deepthinker, cosa, and smartengine. plus the weather services). If you really want to restore AOD and all its features you need this :
Spoiler: Restore AOD Functions only
adb shell pm install-existing com.oplus.deepthinker
adb shell pm install-existing com.oplus.portrait
adb shell pm install-existing com.android.dreams.basic
adb shell pm install-existing com.oplus.omoji
adb shell pm install-existing com.google.android.as
adb shell pm install-existing com.oplus.uiengine
adb shell pm install-existing com.oplus.cosa
adb shell pm install-existing com.oplus.smartengine
adb shell pm install-existing net.oneplus.weather
adb shell pm install-existing com.coloros.weather.service
adb shell pm install-existing com.heytap.colorfulengine
adb shell pm install-existing com.oplus.aod
adb shell pm install-existing com.google.android.as.oss
Which package would refer to the aod? disabled aod, used it in power saving mode
joaofer said:
Which package would refer to the aod? disabled aod, used it in power saving mode
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I'll find it. Didn't realize it was disabled, since I left the OnePlus aod package. Ty for reporting.
Give me a few mins. likely com.android.dreams.basic
joaofer said:
Which package would refer to the aod? disabled aod, used it in power saving mode
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I found it on my phone under Wallpapers & Style > Always-On Display (large button on the right). BUT, it does not work without "Intelligent Services" (the phone asks you to enable that service once you try to apply an AOD effect). "Intelligent Services" is a no-go for me, but I will make sure to put a disclaimer about AOD. Why it's tied to "Intelligent Services", I couldn't tell you. I get it has to check online for things, and I can understand it needs background gathering capabilities, but it is too intrusive.
Intelligent Services, Portrait, daydreams, omoji, android intelligent services, and more are needed to get it fully working. Idk why oppo/op tied it to so many things. , but its a bit much for my taste. Below you will find script to enable AOD and all its dependencies (it is a LOT of crap just for AOD. There is a way to have only stock android AOD, but it's not worth it for me to put the trouble into it.)
Here are the things you need to restore if you want AOD. Keep in mind, I restored ALL functions for ALL things related to AOD. This pretty much makes the debloat useless, because the services used are atrocious. If you really want to restore AOD and all its features you need this :
Spoiler: Restore AOD Complete
adb shell pm install-existing com.oplus.deepthinker
adb shell pm install-existing com.oplus.portrait
adb shell pm install-existing com.android.dreams.basic
adb shell pm install-existing com.oplus.omoji
adb shell pm install-existing com.google.android.as
adb shell pm install-existing com.oplus.uiengine
adb shell pm install-existing com.oplus.cosa
adb shell pm install-existing com.oplus.smartengine
adb shell pm install-existing net.oneplus.weather
adb shell pm install-existing com.coloros.weather.service
adb shell pm install-existing com.heytap.colorfulengine
adb shell pm install-existing com.oplus.aod
adb shell pm install-existing com.google.android.as.oss
OMG, I better do without the AOD anyway, I never really liked the notification system of this aod haha
would you have a more conservative DEBLOAT?
Thanks a lot! Worked good on OP9Pro with A13 Open Beta 1. No side issues to report yet.
I did notice that while on idle, connection request made to "tracking domains" were lowered (using ControlD DNS). I will monitor standby battery consumption in the coming days. Thanks again!
(There is a way to have only stock android AOD, but it's not worth it for me) Could you teach me how to have the stock android aod system?
joaofer said:
(There is a way to have only stock android AOD, but it's not worth it for me) Could you teach me how to have the stock android aod system?
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You would have to enable the android services disabled for the full AOD remove. Then you have to figure out which items, likely oplus AOD, to enable for the settings to appear.
how to uninstall the intelgent service? will it damage the phone? in the application management there is a function to stop, after the acquisition, the current consumption from the battery drops, and after a few seconds it rises again to 350-400mA.
persey1977 said:
how to uninstall the intelgent service? will it damage the phone? in the application management there is a function to stop, after the acquisition, the current consumption from the battery drops, and after a few seconds it rises again to 350-400mA.
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.Run the adb commands to debloat all the things including intelligent services. It will not damage anything on the phone. And if you want to, you can undo the process
Ran through a bunch of these.. Left a few like photos (I use the unlimited back up, I posted the mod the other day)
The telemetry in this phone is so bad.
Hoping with my already tweaked system I can get some more out of it. Will let you know buddy
I don't seem to have stats rolling through but my SOT has gone through the roof..
Some of this telemetry crap is a hog.. I had a list of apps I used yesterday, but they're gone today.
Here's my battery screen, I'll grab GSAM and get clearer stats today, I've been using my phone normally, calls, camera, Whatsapp, telegram, Amazon, browsing, no games.
10+ hours with 21% left lol.. This is more like it..
I'd recommend everyone running through these debloats.
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I don't seem to have stats rolling through but my SOT has gone through the roof..
Some of this telemetry crap is a hog.. I had a list of apps I used yesterday, but they're gone today.
Here's my battery screen, I'll grab GSAM and get clearer stats today, I've been using my phone normally, calls, camera, Whatsapp, telegram, Amazon, browsing, no games.
10+ hours with 21% left lol.. This is more like it..
I'd recommend everyone running through these debloats.
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That´s insane. I have moreless the same usage as you, as weel as the standby time and got 4h30min sot with 20 % left.
Also I´m on 9 Pro with a slight smaller battery, but still!
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Eu não pareço ter estatísticas rolando, mas meu SOT passou pelo telhado ..
Algumas dessas porcarias de telemetria são uma porcaria. Eu tinha uma lista de aplicativos que usei ontem, mas eles sumiram hoje.
Aqui está a tela da minha bateria, vou pegar o GSAM e obter estatísticas mais claras hoje, estou usando meu telefone normalmente, chamadas, câmera, Whatsapp, telegrama, Amazon, navegação, sem jogos.
Mais de 10 horas com 21% restantes lol .. Isso é mais parecido com isso ..
Eu recomendo a todos que passem por esses debloats.
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what debloat did you do?
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what debloat did you do?
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Almost all of them, didn't do photos, just use your head. If it seems important then kill it.
Even removing just the tracking apps should be enough.. for crying out loud they even included media Tek software lol we use SDragon
dladz said:
Ran through a bunch of these.. Left a few like photos (I use the unlimited back up, I posted the mod the other day)
The telemetry in this phone is so bad.
Hoping with my already tweaked system I can get some more out of it. Will let you know buddy
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Can you tell me where did you post the mod for the unlimited photos storage?
I´m very interested.
Thanks
Here in the 10 pro section.. Would you like it?
Here you go.
Flash in magisk and enjoy unlimited back up.
Hello @dladz
Question 1 : Past 3 Days I Notice , When i charged my phone ie.100% after few mins its drop 2% in idle why there's no app running in background
Question 2 : If i use your Debloat method should i get 7 or 8 SOT.
Question 3 : After used your Debloat method if any OTA system update came , shall i update or i cant system update.
Thank You.
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Hello @dladz
Question 1 : Past 3 Days I Notice , When i charged my phone ie.100% after few mins its drop 2% in idle why there's no app running in background
Question 2 : If i use your Debloat method should i get 7 or 8 SOT.
Question 3 : After used your Debloat method if any OTA system update came , shall i update or i cant system update.
Thank You.
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1. it's more then likely apps, follow my tips at the end of this message.
2. That depends, apps is the main cause for concern, again follow my tips.
3. You should always be using oxygen updater to obtain full firmwares... This sentiment is doubled if you're rooted.
Tips:
Change 5G to 4G
Remove tiktok is 100% dodgy Chinese spyware.
Remove Facebook use web based
Remove Facebook messenger use web based
Remove Twitter use web based
Remove any ad based apps pay for the pro version
Turn off gestures like lift to wake
Change from QHD to FHD (No difference)
Allow auto brightness
Turn off WiFi overnight
Turn all updates to manual not auto (play store)
Remove any so you don't use
Change back up to once a month (WhatsApp)
Turn off location history (Google)
Use titanium to remove any system apps you don't need
Don't allow anonymous usage statistics for any app ever.
Don't allow tracking cookies on any website
Use adaway (root needed)
Don't open web pages in Google app (I use Samsung browser)
Don't use xposed.
If you game you will not get high SOT scores, period.
Don't bother with battery saving apps or monitoring apps.
Streamline your apps, if you don't use it, remove it.
Don't allow WiFi scanning (as in letting other apps use it when it's not on)
Never allow personalised ads.
Never allow notifications from websites
Always decline cookies unless your absolutely have to allow some tracking (common sense prevails here)
Optimise as many apps as possible unless it affects performance.
Don't allow apps to remain open in the notification area.
Change your launcher, my preferred launcher is lawn chair and this did actually burn up some battery when compared to the OnePlus launcher.
Don't use live widgets (yes they look cool, but they annihilate your battery)
Live wallpaper, again very cool, but battery burners.
Again! Don't charge overnight, make a note of your percentage then see what it is in the morning, you shouldn't be losing more than 5% really, if you've done well then it'll be reflected here, the good SOT results will follow.
Turn off live read outs of network speed, RAM usage in the status bar.
Turn off NFC unless in use.
Leave location on in quick settings.
Don't overcharge your phone, IE: overnight
Don't allow your phone to fully deplete the battery.
Whatever anyone says, this does 100% damage batteries, there is no argument here and I won't entertain anyone who says otherwise, Ive seen through real life tests what this results in, bloated, inefficient, possibly dangerous lithium batteries.
Keep your phone out the sun.
Keep it out of extreme cold.
Keep your device clean dust free.
Snapchat, Viber, house party, apps like that tends to use more battery as they don't have great dormancy periods.
Apps like speed test by Ookla tend to have location tracking, similarly they tend to turn themselves on and off when they feel like it, my advice, install test and uninstall.
Allow a couple of battery cycles between tweaking sets, to give you an idea of how much of a difference you've made.
Use BBS to see what is being used, once you've removed problems, remove BBS.
I've just written this from the top of my head so o probably missed some things, the general idea is to keep your device clean and fresh, remove files you don't need any more.
Keep an eye on apps that misbehave or aren't wanted, index your folders so they aren't a mess.
The more good things you do means the more potentially bad apps you can have on your phone, eg if you really need Facebook, you could keep it so long as you clean up other areas of your phone.
Good luck.