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[HOWTO] Backup my SGS, Backup Apps, Best practices before & after flash

Good evening guys,
I tried to backup my diary entries using Titanium Backup, but when I tried to restore them on the new Firmware they didn't appear. Same for my SMS Messages...
Could you tell what exactly I have to backup?
Thank you for your help!

Backup Methods Before Flashing?
I've been using MyBackupPro, but it does not save any of my settings. I have to set up a lot of stuff like email accounts and so on every time I flash.
Is there a better way?

Have you tried titanium backup? I find it works best.

azazin said:
Have you tried titanium backup? I find it works best.
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No I haven't yet. I read reviews of MyBackupPro, saying it's the best So I bought it.
Does Titanium Backup save preferences, including passwords and email settings?

MacGuy2006 said:
No I haven't yet. I read reviews of MyBackupPro, saying it's the best So I bought it.
Does Titanium Backup save preferences, including passwords and email settings?
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Hey,
I believe it does, it saves all of my preferences with games like Alsphalt so it should do the same with your e-mail.
Try it, it's free.

stupid question: Is somebody working on a custom recovery image with Nandroid or something?

unfnknblvbl said:
stupid question: Is somebody working on a custom recovery image with Nandroid or something?
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I hope someone is, that would be best option, titanium is brilliant though and has saved me a few times, I have it scheduled to backup everynight.
I also use Mybackup pro for sms and call logs etc.
neither can bring your homescreen widgets back as before.

Is there anything that saves your facebook/google links in contacts? That's the thing I find most annoying having to go back through them one by one...

Titanium backup in its current form is not functioning correctly on my phone aswell as many other galaxys users

yes - unfortunately Titanium Backup currently won't backup the databases :-(

Best backup app for galaxy?
Is there anything out there which will backup our apps, contacts etc before I flash a new rom to my phone? Is it possible in kies? I'm loath to have to link my face book and google mail contacts again

Backup apps/settings to PC? possible?
Hi all, i have seen many threads regarding backup apps such as wave/titanium pro etc but im wondering if its possible to backup to a PC?
as much as its a naughty word, i liked apples way of backing up using itunes. you simply plugged in your phone and voila its backing up into a friendly restorable format.
i just want a simple backup of my device encase i flash to others roms.
is this possible?

i don't know of such application.
but what is so bad about backing it up to the External SD card?
you want your backup to be with you all the time, so in case of "OMG! happens", you can easily Hard Reset, then restore from backup from the SD card.
once on the SD card, you can easily copy it over to your PC, the next time you hookup your USB cable.
if you want it done automatically, you can always create a script on your PC to grab X files from X folder every time the USB connects to X device
I love the backup software from PalmOS, they works automatically just as you wanted.
I never found a good one that actually works on WinMobile
in Android it's almost perfect, it just missing the part to sync the backups to the desktop automatically.
But that's a minor thing, as you can do the batch command mentioned above.

you can try this one for size, see if you like it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459830
Nandroid v2.0 - Full NAND backup and restore tool
else you can go for PAID applications such as... Titanium Backup and many other ones

never thought of it like that.
as for backup apps which one is proving decent? i see alot about wave and titanium backup.

Yeah... Titanium Back-up is great. You can even try MyBackup Pro. Both are equally good.
MyBackup Pro restores all the apps perfectly but is not able to link those to the Android Market...

what do you guys use to backup all your data before changing firmware
I already flashed my girlfriend's galaxy S twice
and each time i was installing and configuring the device as she want...
Once again there is a new firmware that correct some interesting part (GPS)
but i REALLY don't want to loose 2 hours of my time to
a: install the apps my gf has
b: configure the device (font, ring tone, volume ...)
so question : what are you using to save the time of installing/configurating...
thanks in advance

I'm also interested to know how you make it.. Thanks
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I use titanium backup. Gotta root your device first though.
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Been using Titanium Backup (donated ver.), so far so good.

[Q] Changing ROM's, TiBackup procedure

Hello,
I've been running Perception 10.1 for quite a while now. There's really nothing wrong with it, I guess I'm just bored. I'm thinking about putting CM7 on my phone.
Everytime I've changed ROMs in the past I've tried to do a NAND backup with Rom Manager and everytime I install the new ROM on there and then I do a NAND restore, none of the apps come over with it and I usually have problems and crashes. So, to me, CWM is basically worthless. I have made tons of backups and not one single one of them restored without errors and crashes. Worst program ever.
So, now I have bought the Pro version of Titanium Backup. I'd like to do a full backup so that way when I finish the flashing process to get my new ROM on there, I can just use that to restore all my apps and settings. I'd hate to have to go and download all my apps all over again, I have over 100 on there now.
What type of backup should I do with Titanium Backup so that migrating to a new ROM and restoring is as seamless as possible?
Thanks!

derek4484 said:
Hello,
I've been running Perception 10.1 for quite a while now. There's really nothing wrong with it, I guess I'm just bored. I'm thinking about putting CM7 on my phone.
Everytime I've changed ROMs in the past I've tried to do a NAND backup with Rom Manager and everytime I install the new ROM on there and then I do a NAND restore, none of the apps come over with it and I usually have problems and crashes. So, to me, CWM is basically worthless. I have made tons of backups and not one single one of them restored without errors and crashes. Worst program ever.
So, now I have bought the Pro version of Titanium Backup. I'd like to do a full backup so that way when I finish the flashing process to get my new ROM on there, I can just use that to restore all my apps and settings. I'd hate to have to go and download all my apps all over again, I have over 100 on there now.
What type of backup should I do with Titanium Backup so that migrating to a new ROM and restoring is as seamless as possible?
Thanks!
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Go on Backup & restore, open the menu and select batch.
Run: Backup all user apps + system data.
Once you restore although, don't restore system data as it will mess up with your new ROM.

BWolf56 said:
Go on Backup & restore, open the menu and select batch.
Run: Backup all user apps + system data.
Once you restore although, don't restore system data as it will mess up with your new ROM.
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Ok, thanks. Let me ask you a question then... You say to run the batch backup all user apps + system data, but only run the restore user apps. Why? Is there a difference between doing it your way, and just running the batch backup user apps, then doing the batch restore user apps? What is the purpose of backing up system data, if its not going to be restored? Just curious why to backup the system data if not restoring it. I think I have read somewhere else to not restore the system data on the new ROM cause it'll cheese it up.
Titanium Backup seems like a powerful program, although I havent been able to find any user manual or really anywhere that details what all the options do.

if going between different roms dont do all system data only the green ones and user apps. not all system data is compatible between different frameworks and options
create a label for "my sys data" and assign the green ones to it.
make sure to have tibu backup its settings as well in the settings menu.

derek4484 said:
Ok, thanks. Let me ask you a question then... You say to run the batch backup all user apps + system data, but only run the restore user apps. Why? Is there a difference between doing it your way, and just running the batch backup user apps, then doing the batch restore user apps? What is the purpose of backing up system data, if its not going to be restored? Just curious why to backup the system data if not restoring it. I think I have read somewhere else to not restore the system data on the new ROM cause it'll cheese it up.
Titanium Backup seems like a powerful program, although I havent been able to find any user manual or really anywhere that details what all the options do.
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Simply cause you want a full backup if u ever wanna go back to a certain ROM. Also, doing a full backup is safer, the program won't miss anything and when you restore your apps, you can restore your apps's data (which I personnaly love).
You don't have to backup your system data, I simply suggest it as you never know if you'll change your mind

I think backing up system data is just a precaution in case something goes wrong.

Trusselo said:
if going between different roms dont do all system data only the green ones and user apps.
create a label for "my sys data" and assign the green ones to it.
make sure to have tibu backup its settings as well in the settings menu.
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Trusselo, you're being too helpful lol - everywhere I try to help some1, you're right there doing so too
Love to see ppl with experience still helping the newbie with patience

Just back up user apps and data (also dialer storage for texts).
I never make full backups of my rom. Just Tibu backups for apps.

qwertyaas said:
Just back up user apps and data (also dialer storage for texts).
I never make full backups of my rom. Just Tibu backups for apps.
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@ OP - I believe it's up to you. Full backup is safer if something goes wrong but not necessary as mentionned by others. I do it cause I can
The only thing to remember, if that's what you decide to do, is to not restore system data if you flash a different ROM.

Ok, I got it. Thanks to you all.

For future reference, a NAND backup in CWM is not worthless, you are just using it wrong.
It is not meant to restore apps/data it is a complete image of your phone as it was when you took the backup. it is designed so that you can jump between roms easily by just restoring nandroids of your setups. it is not and dont think it was ever designed to 'restore apps' but restore the entire system. your problems before with it were likely because you were trying to go between 2.1 and 2.2 roms? a nandroid does not backup the kernel or modem so it makes it a little difficult to bounce between 2.1/2.2 etc there are ways, but its just easier to start fresh and restore a Titanium backup batch job

regarding Tibu and nandroid.
Full system / everything backup is good for backing up your system AS IS if you are going to mess around with what you have or try a rom for a few hours but want to go back to exactly how it was.
thats why the green ones are green in tibu its the bare minimum that will work across all roms.
@Bwolf56 - ya im on here alot. just finishing coming off comp for nearly taking my thumb right off.
i try to help. but get into crap often... still try to help regardless!

Something I've learned from flashing you can NEVER have too many backups.
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Helium (formerly Carbon) - Backup/Restore

Hi folks,
I've done a fair bit of searching and although it has been briefly discussed before I can't see any recent mentions about Helium (aka Carbon) from clockworkmod (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup&hl=en).
The Google Play store page for the app mentions that the app doesn't work on the Xperia S and Z due to some changes Sony made, however when I first got my Xperia Z (at launch in the UK), I was able to backup app data (and some apks) from my Galaxy S3 and restore them onto the Xperia Z without any issues.
Given there have been a few software updates from Sony since launch, does anyone have any recent experience with Helium, specifically whether it works correctly to backup and restore to the Xperia Z? I couldn't find a suitable thread or forum to try to ask the developer directly what the specific issues were with the Xperia S and Z that led to the warning on the app page.

I had a problem restoring Apps with this app after full factory reset. It always crashed. Tried to restore from SD card and CLOUD. on my galaxy s3 it works fine. The build in sony's backup and restore app is doing great.

neoxkid said:
I had a problem restoring Apps with this app after full factory reset. It always crashed. Tried to restore from SD card and CLOUD. on my galaxy s3 it works fine. The build in sony's backup and restore app is doing great.
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Thanks for the reply. What does the Sony app actually backup? Does it include some/all apks and the actual app data too (e.g game progress)?

Yes, it includ app+data, even clock alarms

Hi. Why doesn't work the program to NOT ROOT galaxy s2 with android 4.1.2?
It bring me that message
"An error occured while perfoming your app backup. A log of the error has been sent to ClockworkMod. Clock Backup to attempt to backup the remaining apps."
I have do ALL the steps you are describe but the program DOESN'T WORK..... Can you please suggest me something?

Helium kept telling me that I had a backup password which I had never set.

fits79 said:
Hi. Why doesn't work the program to NOT ROOT galaxy s2 with android 4.1.2?
It bring me that message
"An error occured while perfoming your app backup. A log of the error has been sent to ClockworkMod. Clock Backup to attempt to backup the remaining apps."
I have do ALL the steps you are describe but the program DOESN'T WORK..... Can you please suggest me something?
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Hi, the problem is your rom

No it ISN'T the my rom.
And that is because i try it into to galaxy s2.
01. With Oficial and NOT root 4.0.3 sales code eur
02. With oficial 4.1.2 nordic sales code nee
So........

I decided to unlock and root my phone. So I did some backups with mybackup pro and decided to give a try to helium (because I never managed to restore the data of the apps with mybackup pro, just with root). I did the backup, saved it on the internal storage, copied it on my computer, unlocked my phone, rooted it, installed helium, copied the backup to the internal storage and... when i try to restore the backup from the internal storage it doesn't find it... I am now trying to reinstall it, don't give it su and see if I see the backup... if I don't see it... well.. idk what to say... I do a backup and then I cannot restore it? nice (sarcastic)
Edit: no.. I cannot find the backup

dreamxp said:
Helium kept telling me that I had a backup password which I had never set.
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yes same problem here, it seems the devs of this app are idiots

I started using this for the first time last week. Now I'm making a new backup and it is asking me to connect my phone to the computer again. do I need this each time I create a backup to my external sd card?

Samribi said:
I decided to unlock and root my phone. So I did some backups with mybackup pro and decided to give a try to helium (because I never managed to restore the data of the apps with mybackup pro, just with root). I did the backup, saved it on the internal storage, copied it on my computer, unlocked my phone, rooted it, installed helium, copied the backup to the internal storage and... when i try to restore the backup from the internal storage it doesn't find it... I am now trying to reinstall it, don't give it su and see if I see the backup... if I don't see it... well.. idk what to say... I do a backup and then I cannot restore it? nice (sarcastic)
Edit: no.. I cannot find the backup
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I have the same problem... Hi%5... hope somebody will look into this matter ...
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If you're still interested.. (if u want the app data. i.e : savegames) I found a way.. Just keep those backup files in your computer. And then download the apps you want to restore.. Then make backups of them again.. Then they will have those backup up files in the "Carbon" folder. Then copy the folders inside without the "nomedia" file. It then the app will show the backup & viola... Apps restored...
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fits79 said:
Hi. Why doesn't work the program to NOT ROOT galaxy s2 with android 4.1.2?
It bring me that message
"An error occured while perfoming your app backup. A log of the error has been sent to ClockworkMod. Clock Backup to attempt to backup the remaining apps."
I have do ALL the steps you are describe but the program DOESN'T WORK..... Can you please suggest me something?
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Same issue for me

Helium works fine for me, only problem is that messages are stored 'the wrong way' in Sony stock-ROM's last time i tried one of those.

Urticant2 said:
Hi, the problem is your rom
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I had the same problem, just unplug your phone from the usb and it works

mljjlm said:
Helium works fine for me, only problem is that messages are stored 'the wrong way' in Sony stock-ROM's last time i tried one of those.
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Is there something weird about the way messages are stored in general? Everything else seemed to work - the one thing I can't seem to figure out is how to restore text messages (com.android.providers.telephony.ab) - I've tried to do it as a whole app using the PC interface, tried copying the folder as a replacement via Android File Transfer to the 'carbon' folder, etc.
When I try to restore via helium server, it quickly shows me everything as restored but I don't see the messages. When I try to do it manually (e.g. force copy), I don't see an option under "Restore and Sync" to actually select messaging.
Am I missing something stupid / obvious? The raw data seems to be there (for example, call logs were uploaded just fine, text messages seem to have an issue).
--Dan

bfettd said:
Is there something weird about the way messages are stored in general? Everything else seemed to work - the one thing I can't seem to figure out is how to restore text messages (com.android.providers.telephony.ab) - I've tried to do it as a whole app using the PC interface, tried copying the folder as a replacement via Android File Transfer to the 'carbon' folder, etc.
When I try to restore via helium server, it quickly shows me everything as restored but I don't see the messages. When I try to do it manually (e.g. force copy), I don't see an option under "Restore and Sync" to actually select messaging.
Am I missing something stupid / obvious? The raw data seems to be there (for example, call logs were uploaded just fine, text messages seem to have an issue).
--Dan
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Hmm.. I just used the SD-card backup, so I don't know about other stuff

mljjlm said:
Hmm.. I just used the SD-card backup, so I don't know about other stuff
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So I came up with a solution based on what works for others. Why this works when it didn't previously is beyond me, but hopefully someone else can use it if individual parts of their Helium backup don't work properly (in theory it should work for any app / SQL dataset). The whole point of Helium is that we're running non-rooted phones and so Titanium Backup or the like aren't applicable. For reference, I'm running an N4 to OSX 10.7.x
1. Use the Helium Server to create a full backup.
2. Wipe phone or whatever you need to do (I had to do a factory reset for Google since it's an N4 and my proximity sensor is dead).
3. Install the apps you had previously via Play Store (pain in the a**).
4. Run Helium server and upload the backup data.
5. Update apps as needed (should be auto but who knows for individual stuff).
6. Check app data in apps. Texts are obviously easy to see for me. Hopefully everything restored nicely for you here.
***Now for the bit for people who got corrupted restores.
7. Unzip the backup file on your computer, select the .ab files that correspond to the missing / corrupted restores and then zip those into a new file on your computer (for step 9). Keep these files handy in unzipped form as well for step 10.
8. Perform a new Helium backup of those sections onto the internal SD card (yes it will be blank, worry not).
9. (Optional step): Run Helium server and upload that new zip file (with the stuff that didn't make it) alone. Try restore. Unlikely to work but worth a shot.
10. Running Android File Transfer, find the SD card, find the folder 'carbon' and then find the corresponding sub-folders that have the modules that were corrupted. Replace the SD card backups of the broken modules with the good ones from your computer.
11. Run Helium restore again, but only for the sections you want (I swear, for me Messaging didn't show up the first few times but after step 10 it did).
12. Wait, hoepfully it works well. I would reboot after running the restore to a) kill Helium and b) confirm functionality.
FWIW, my telephony.ab was 1.8MB and took SIX hours to restore. Seriously. Yeah yeah, that's a lot of texts but six hours? I've since added "SMS Backup & Restore" to my phone and will probably just use that, map out my phone layout and functionality and just manually replace apps from now on since most data is in the cloud. You lose some stuff, but prima facie it's boat tons easier.
Hopefully that helps someone else who had the same issues.
--Dan

Somehow my phone got soft factory reset (lost all the apps but the files) when i tried to install the apps that I had before it throws a play store error while installing saying it couldnt be installed because of an unkown error "-24" plz helpp

Why are you mocking Koush? Yes the Koush. He made this app. He specifically said in the app description that:
Note: Helium is NOT available to Motorola devices. This is because Motorola phones have a bug that break Android's backup mechanism. Until this is fixed by Motorola, Helium will not work on those Androids. You can download Helium manually here:
http://download.clockworkmod.com/apks/Backup.apk
If you find that Helium *does* work on your Motorola Android, please notify me.
Note: Some Sony devices have issues with Helium. This includes the Xperia S and Xperia Z. Sony has *disabled* backup on these devices completely.
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[Q] Help me understand the "rules" for restoring data with a new ROM?

Since most ROM updates require fully wiping memory, restoring data is an essential step. Simply restoring the SD-Card, photos, music, etc, is not sufficient. There are many other types of data, such as call history, SMS/MMS messages, Wi-Fi networks and passwords, bluetooth pairings, etc. that need to be restored also to return the phone to its working state again.
Several ROM developers have cautioned to not use Titanium Backup to restore system data with their ROM. As alternates, I have seen suggestions to use MyBackupPro, Samsung account, or others.
Could someone explain (or reference a thread that explains) the differences between these types of backup/restore? What are the underlying issues that have to be kept in mind? How do these different backup programs save and restore the data? Which are suitable for ROMs that change the system structure? What is the full set of backup restore options that are compatible or incompatible with various ROM updates?
Could the Titanium Backup XML data format be compatible with all ROMs even if the binary format isn't?

Personally, I restore my apps using TiBackup all the time. And I use superbackup to restore sms, call logs, contacts.
Never really had a problem.
Maybe when restoring across a new build there could b issues.
But other than that, restore whatever the he** you want. Lol
Cheers

Here is one reply I received regarding restoring from Titanium.
For the Rapture ROM, iB4STiD says:
Q. CAN I RESTORE SYSTEM DATA WITH TITANIUM BACKUP ?
A. NO!! THIS INCLUDES CALL LOGS, SMS, AS WELL AS APPS AND THERE DATA!! OTHER WISE YOU WILL HAVE APPS FC, AND OTHER ODDITIES!
Here is a response from an earlier question from a different developer.
I'm not familiar with SuperBackupPro - does it do anything different than MyBackupPro? I'm trying to figure out what aspect of the different backup/restore programs is or is not compatible with system data.

You should never use Titanium Backup to restore system apps or data since they are built for a different rom and will most probably cause problems. I always use TiBu to restore user apps and data. I use SMS Backup and Restore for text messages. I don't care about call logs but I would think that there are apps that can back these up. I re-setup bluetooth and wifi from scratch since that only takes seconds. Note that some roms I have tried over the years have cautioned not to use TiBu to restore anything, but have worked anyway for user apps and data. Some roms do really not allow you to restore anything (odex instead of deodex perhaps - I am not sure) since TiBu just hangs when it is trying to restore. When this occurs, I just flash a different rom since I would not take the time it requires to set them up from scratch.
I have never had a full wipe delete any pictures or other media but then I never wipe the internal or external cards, just system, data, and caches.

I always use tibu for user apps and data and the xml format in tibu for sms and call logs. Have done this for as long as I can remember over at least 5 phones. I even move backups from phone to phone and rom to rom. (went nexus 5 to note 4 to another note 4 and from cm13 back to kk).
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nine5raptor said:
I always use tibu for user apps and data and the xml format in tibu for sms and call logs. Have done this for as long as I can remember over at least 5 phones. I even move backups from phone to phone and rom to rom. (went nexus 5 to note 4 to another note 4 and from cm13 back to kk).
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Thanks for clarifying. I thought TiBu's XML format would be safe, but I'm glad to have confirmation. That covers the main requirement for restoring.

timg11 said:
Thanks for clarifying. I thought TiBu's XML format would be safe, but I'm glad to have confirmation. That covers the main requirement for restoring.
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I use the standard backup and restore for apps. I just use the xml for sms and call log.
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[HELP] I lost all my notes, sync with micloud does not retrieve any

Hello everyone,
Just updated my actual version to the latest weekly xiaomi eu rom and I lost all my notes (only).
I tried to sync and did not obtain them.
Is there any way to recover them? Tried with some software without success...
Thanks in advance,
Regards.

Anyone in the same situation?

You didn't make a backup of your data partition by any chance?
Or synced them anywhere in the cloud?
Or used Titanium Backup or alike?
What do you mean with losing notes only?
Is data from (all) other apps still there?
Maybe a detailed flashing procedure explanation would also help.
Although I think if you did neither of the backup solutions above, it looks a little hopeless...

Phil_Smith said:
You didn't make a backup of your data partition by any chance?
Or synced them anywhere in the cloud?
Or used Titanium Backup or alike?
What do you mean with losing notes only?
Is data from (all) other apps still there?
Maybe a detailed flashing procedure explanation would also help.
Although I think if you did neither of the backup solutions above, it looks a little hopeless...
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Hello mate, thanks for reply.
I synced all with MIcloud, then upgrade xiaomi.eu version to latest (as always as did to keep all data).
Keep all data of all apps, contacts, images and so on.
Only notes app, it's empty, I started to sync and (seems a bug) all my data has been deleted.
I want to know if is possible to recover the notes...I did not use any backup solution because I always kept my data when upgrade in this way.

Anyone can assist on this? Thanks in advance guys.

Hey, I also thought for once that since I haven't synced my account so my notes might not have saved anywhere.
But I was wrong....
Rather than looking on my trash from the notes app...
I rather go on the chrome browser, log into my Mi account & BOOM !!!
All my notes were there.. Thnx me later

I have always synced my Notes with Mi Cloud and always lost my notes while I factory reset or updated etc because the mi account doesn't retrieve and recover your data back. I logged in to my mi account on browser and it shows empty apps, nothing there, no sync files.

actually there is nothing like Cloud Backup without paid subscription although in my own sense I was always backing up my data to later recover. They want money to backup your data.

HELP]
I lost all my notes, sync with micloud does not retrieve any.
The notes are shown on web version but not synced on the app.It thorws an error(check screenshot)
Device :RN9S rooted Curtana.
Please help