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What to pick as my next phone? Mi9 or Oneplus 6T

Recently my wife arrested my Mi8 because of the Google Camera astonishing output, so now I am using an old Mi A1 rooted, but my fingers are already itching, so now in the position of buying a new phone.
The reason I am posting here is that Mi9 is one of my options.
Based on your experience with the device what would you pick Xiaomi Mi9 vs. Oneplus 6T (can find if 100-150 Eur cheaper in mint condition).
Main factors:
- camera experience and compatibility with Google Camera;
- battery;
- lagfree experience;
I now all features and youtube movies, but I am more interested in users opinions than biased reviewers.
Can take also other recommendations if the reason is posted.

catalindobre said:
Recently my wife arrested my Mi8 because of the Google Camera astonishing output, so now I am using an old Mi A1 rooted, but my fingers are already itching, so now in the position of buying a new phone.
The reason I am posting here is that Mi9 is one of my options.
Based on your experience with the device what would you pick Xiaomi Mi9 vs. Oneplus 6T (can find if 100-150 Eur cheaper in mint condition).
Main factors:
- camera experience and compatibility with Google Camera;
- battery;
- lagfree experience;
I now all features and youtube movies, but I am more interested in users opinions than biased reviewers.
Can take also other recommendations if the reason is posted.
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Whatever media saids about good batery life on mi9. My experience is not good. Bad batery life. Better goes for 6t. The development of 6t is more good than mi 9.

Battery life is really good imo.. check the sot thread here https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/review/screen-time-t3902207
While about development, dude 6t has been out for months and months already lol

SirTAVARES said:
if you prefer a 2018 to a 2019 phone...
i came from a op6t and i'm pretty happy with my choice
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Same here...I came from OP6 which had almost the same hardware as op6t (same chipset and camera, etc) . All in all, I prefer the mi9 in regards to hardware and features. But I much preferred the OP in regards to its android software.
-I'm getting about the same battery life out of the mi9.
-camera is much better in good light, but not as good in realy dark environments. (gcam is already doing a realy good job for me though, so early on. OP didn't have camera2api support either)
-Speed, I don't think you can realy feel a difference between the 2.
-amoled screen seems a bit better to me
-stock os is much better, and community support was realy good on op. Let's see about mi9, a few months after release ?

I suppose it depends on what's more important to you.
The Xiaomi is head and shoulders above the OnePlus as far as hardware specs go. But MIUI, for me, is awful, though it is very polarising and some people love it. OxygenOS is arguably the best vendor Android flavour by quite a long way.
I'm in a similar situation and an looking to upgrade, made more urgent last week by my OnePlus 3 getting a fatal dunking.
I've come close to buying a Mi 9 a couple of times over the last month, but the thought of being stuck with MIUI until custom ROM support becomes more mature keeps putting me off. If I could get LineageOS on it, I'd have already bought it, as it's by far the best bang for your buck.
OnePlus devices have by far the best community development and you'll always have a multitude of options with them.
I'm now going to wait for another 5 weeks and see what price tag OnePlus put on the 7 and 7 pro and if they continue to move the price north in the same way it's gone since the 5, then hopefully there will be some ROM alternatives for the Mi 9 other than the xiaomi.eu version of MIUI

ahmadshuib said:
Whatever media saids about good batery life on mi9. My experience is not good. Bad batery life. Better goes for 6t. The development of 6t is more good than mi 9.
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I would add something on this. Development is still pretty new, which means it's kinda hard to do tech stuffs. I agree that stock MIUI has a horrible battery life in Mi 9. I recently switched to xiaomi.eu and battery life has significantly increase. I would say about 1.5-2x better than stock MIUI.

I was on OP6. The camera got broken and I got my money back, because the seller couldn't repair it. I was in almost same position as you and had an rooted A1 as backup phone. I bought the mi9 because op6t is almost the same compared to OP6. If you have time go for OP7. I hadn't time and wanted to try again with a Xiaomi that's why I went for mi9.

Robbo.5000 said:
I suppose it depends on what's more important to you.
The Xiaomi is head and shoulders above the OnePlus as far as hardware specs go. But MIUI, for me, is awful, though it is very polarising and some people love it. OxygenOS is arguably the best vendor Android flavour by quite a long way.
I'm in a similar situation and an looking to upgrade, made more urgent last week by my OnePlus 3 getting a fatal dunking.
I've come close to buying a Mi 9 a couple of times over the last month, but the thought of being stuck with MIUI until custom ROM support becomes more mature keeps putting me off. If I could get LineageOS on it, I'd have already bought it, as it's by far the best bang for your buck.
OnePlus devices have by far the best community development and you'll always have a multitude of options with them.
I'm now going to wait for another 5 weeks and see what price tag OnePlus put on the 7 and 7 pro and if they continue to move the price north in the same way it's gone since the 5, then hopefully there will be some ROM alternatives for the Mi 9 other than the xiaomi.eu version of MIUI
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I'm at the exact same point waiting for op7 since Xiaomi miui puts me off since I don't want to instantly unlock new phone and start maintaining os by myself. But if I had to I'll put pixel experience in it gcam and I think I'll be good device for a few years to come not really picky about camera and all since I'm still using my op2.

Could you guys compare the battery life between mi9 and op6t? Because this is my biggest concern to buy a new phone.

Robbo.5000 said:
I suppose it depends on what's more important to you.
The Xiaomi is head and shoulders above the OnePlus as far as hardware specs go. But MIUI, for me, is awful, though it is very polarising and some people love it. OxygenOS is arguably the best vendor Android flavour by quite a long way.
I'm in a similar situation and an looking to upgrade, made more urgent last week by my OnePlus 3 getting a fatal dunking.
I've come close to buying a Mi 9 a couple of times over the last month, but the thought of being stuck with MIUI until custom ROM support becomes more mature keeps putting me off. If I could get LineageOS on it, I'd have already bought it, as it's by far the best bang for your buck.
OnePlus devices have by far the best community development and you'll always have a multitude of options with them.
I'm now going to wait for another 5 weeks and see what price tag OnePlus put on the 7 and 7 pro and if they continue to move the price north in the same way it's gone since the 5, then hopefully there will be some ROM alternatives for the Mi 9 other than the xiaomi.eu version of MIUI
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Same for me, will wait few more weeks, but unfortunately I'm stuck on a Mi A1 and it's harder and harder to cope with it. Any idea about price range for OP7?

catalindobre said:
Same for me, will wait few more weeks, but unfortunately I'm stuck on a Mi A1 and it's harder and harder to cope with it. Any idea about price range for OP7?
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The OP6 and 6T were a bit more expensive than the Mi 8 at launch, forget how much but maybe around $75 (I seem to remember it being more than $50, but not as much as $100). So I'm expecting the OP7 to be a bit more than the Mi 9.
However, and this is my own personal speculating so could be completely wrong, I'm wondering, with the fact that they'll be releasing a pro version too, if they'll lower both the specs and price slightly of the standard OP7 and bring it in at the same price as the Mi 9.

I've had both. The 6T had better software and better battery but the camera on the mi9 is quite a bit better. Depends on your order of importance but I prefer the mi9 over the 6T

Hello all
Just broke my good old OP3, and I purschased this mi9
I loved the ROM development on my OP3, and it seems the xiaomi mi9 hasn't any custom ROM development at all (Where are my ResurectioNRemix, Lineage, SkyDragon Roms, etc.. ) ??
I don't like the MIUI 10 interface, I will try the POCO launcher, but I really would like to flash another custom ROM
When do you think there will be nice Lineage ROM on MI9 ?
For now, I don't think it's necessary to unlock bootloader and flash twrp, cause there is no nice ROM to flash ( correct me if I'm wrong ) ?
Edit : Otherwise, I read here about a 'xiaomi.eu 'rom.
What is it about exactly, what are the changes compared to the stock MIUI original ROM ? and is it flashable without twrp ?
Thanks a lot !

I was in the same situation and I decided to go with Mi 9.
Mainly because of Snapdragon 855 (+20% Performance improvement +20% Battery improvement)
And for the price. (I bought the 128GB model at 429€)

4Freedom said:
I was in the same situation and I decided to go with Mi 9.
Mainly because of Snapdragon 855 (+20% Performance improvement +20% Battery improvement)
And for the price. (I bought the 128GB model at 429€)
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Just curious:where did you buy it for that price?

pv979 said:
Just curious:where did you buy it for that price?
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MOBZILLA:good: (From Italy)

the only thing holding me back to buy a Mi9 is that there is no custom rom support yet. Simply cant stand MemeUI
perhaps wait for Op7?

Just read this
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-eu-xiaomi-mi-9-fixes-everything-wrong-with-miui/
ManuBBXX said:
Hello all
Just broke my good old OP3, and I purschased this mi9
I loved the ROM development on my OP3, and it seems the xiaomi mi9 hasn't any custom ROM development at all (Where are my ResurectioNRemix, Lineage, SkyDragon Roms, etc.. ) ??
I don't like the MIUI 10 interface, I will try the POCO launcher, but I really would like to flash another custom ROM
When do you think there will be nice Lineage ROM on MI9 ?
For now, I don't think it's necessary to unlock bootloader and flash twrp, cause there is no nice ROM to flash ( correct me if I'm wrong ) ?
Edit : Otherwise, I read here about a 'xiaomi.eu 'rom.
What is it about exactly, what are the changes compared to the stock MIUI original ROM ? and is it flashable without twrp ?
Thanks a lot !
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Do you guys think Mi 9 will be a better option over Pixel 3XL now? The only thing that is swaying me to that is the stock experience and the camera. Can't think of OP devices as my country doesn't really offer it as an option unless i buy from overseas without warranty. Trying to upgrade from a Mi Mix 2. I see that the development for this phone is not that strong yet (hopefully it'll pick up as time goes by). Any thoughts?

can't really decide.

Question Is Mi 11 ultra worth it??

I am planning to buy either s21 ultra or mi 11 ultra.I live in asia.So my questions are:
Is there overheating issue??
Is battery life that bad??
How is the software updates in asia version of the mobile.
Is the shutter issue fixed?
Should i buy mi 11 ultra over s21 ultra??
Can you guys please help on choosing a phone.Would really appreciate it.

1. There is, but if you tune down resolution and refresh rate you get good results until they fix it, if they can
2. Dependes,6h screen on if you use it normaly with everything on, can go 9h in my case with FHD and 60hz
3. Moderate, like every 2 or 3 weeks
4.the delay still occasionally happens. might fix it if you remove all animations, havent tested.
5.Thats arguable, my opinion, depends on the price, but only s21 Ultra(snapdragon version) over Mi11 ultra. s21ultra Exynos has some limitations.

You said you live in Asia but where? If it is China you live then software update are quite frequent and battery life has improved a lot. Also if you check my thread on battery you can get useful information about how to save on battery life (I get 8h SoT easily on official global ROM still stuck on 12.5.4.0). Regarding the choice between the two phones, be aware that Mi 11 Ultra comes at a mich cheaper price and also with the battery charger included. You must consider then different aspects before buying a phone because indeed it's a phone you are buying not a camera if you know what I mean

ashboi said:
I am planning to buy either s21 ultra or mi 11 ultra.I live in asia.So my questions are:
Is there overheating issue??
Is battery life that bad??
How is the software updates in asia version of the mobile.
Is the shutter issue fixed?
Should i buy mi 11 ultra over s21 ultra??
Can you guys please help on choosing a phone.Would really appreciate it.
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Having the phone from mid may, I would say go for Samsung. I had enough with this phone. It supposed to be flagship, in reality we pay Xiaomi for the luxury to be used as guinea pigs. Even on the last stable version there's plenty of software bugs. For the amount of software updates this phone got, especially in China should tell you something is wrong with it. I wish I never bought it. Don't listen to the fanbois around here - they'll do everything to convince you xiaomi is better. Go to the S21 Ultra thread and check there how many problems they have. Then form an opinion for yourself. Good luck.

vanshee said:
Having the phone from mid may, I would say go for Samsung. I had enough with this phone. It supposed to be flagship, in reality we pay Xiaomi for the luxury to be used as guinea pigs. Even on the last stable version there's plenty of software bugs. For the amount of software updates this phone got, especially in China should tell you something is wrong with it. I wish I never bought it. Don't listen to the fanbois around here - they'll do everything to convince you xiaomi is better. Go to the S21 Ultra thread and check there how many problems they have. Then form an opinion for yourself. Good luck.
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Ok I agree about the problems are much less on Samsung .. I have both mi 11 ultra and s21 ultra snapdragon and I can confirm overall the Samsung is a much better phone (software options like dex, camera most of scenarios, accessories are literally everywhere and battery life) ...
BUT. Mi 11 ultra have the WOW factor! And it comes second only to Samsung with a lot cheaper price ,,, software tricks in EU ROM are unmatched and it will get better with 12.5 enhanced then miui 13
We can't consider a device as a bad device because there is only one device is better!

MIUI is the weakest aspect of Mi 11 ultra. The list of bugs is enormous, security updates are slow, and dark mode is a pain. For me, even the proximity sensor has not been working properly all the time and all apps; Sometimes the screen will turn on when it is held near the ear during a call. Overall, it is not a pleasant experience. I am not sure how is the feel of one UI. I bit and expect Samsung's skin to be somewhat better than MIUI.

great phone, but not great os. MIUI sucks.
i got it the cn ver at around usd830 for 12/256. if i can get s21 ultra at this price, i definitely take s21 ultra.

xNAPx said:
You said you live in Asia but where? If it is China you live then software update are quite frequent and battery life has improved a lot. Also if you check my thread on battery you can get useful information about how to save on battery life (I get 8h SoT easily on official global ROM still stuck on 12.5.4.0). Regarding the choice between the two phones, be aware that Mi 11 Ultra comes at a mich cheaper price and also with the battery charger included. You must consider then different aspects before buying a phone because indeed it's a phone you are buying not a camera if you know what I mean
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please can you put link for the thread of Saving battery?

dragondero said:
please can you put link for the thread of Saving battery?
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Sure thing
Reduce idle battery drain
Hello everyone,I left my phone overnight for 8 hours at 100% battery and after 8hours of idling it was at 80%,this seems to much for me. I'm on EEA firmware 12.5.3 and I debloated removing many apps what do you suggest to check or remove?
forum.xda-developers.com

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Reduce idle battery drain
Hello everyone,I left my phone overnight for 8 hours at 100% battery and after 8hours of idling it was at 80%,this seems to much for me. I'm on EEA firmware 12.5.3 and I debloated removing many apps what do you suggest to check or remove?
forum.xda-developers.com
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Many thanks

Question Should I buy the redmi note 10 pro?

In my country it has a great price and is one of my top options. But I hear that miui has a lot of problems. Should I look for another phone from another phone brand instead or do i buy the redmi note 10 pro?
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Edit: Im going to go with it and buy the redmi note 10 pro. People who have had it said that they didnt have any problems. I feel it in my guts that i will be happy if i buy this phone. Plus it has good specs, a big battery, a simple elegant design and miui has notification/quick toggle separation

I'd say no.
I went from a poco f1 to a redmi note 10 pro and apart from the charging speed and speakers it's a huge downgrade.
especially the camera and the sound through the 3.5mm port.

Look, MIUI is absolutely garbage. I wouldn't really recommend it unless you're 100% sure you want to install a custom rom at which point the phone is great. If you don't want to fiddle with that go for a samsung or something.

jklica said:
Look, MIUI is absolutely garbage. I wouldn't really recommend it unless you're 100% sure you want to install a custom rom at which point the phone is great. If you don't want to fiddle with that go for a samsung or something.
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Why is it garbage. I went form slow and laggy S21 with OneUI to Mi 11, then to Note 10 Pro because of 3.5mm and cheaper price.
This is overall the best device i ever had, even better than Mi 11 while cheaper.
Miui has more features and it's much faster than OneUI, no lag and battery is incredible.
I also tried few custom roms, features are limited, no face unlock, app lock, etc...
However i use EU model that doesn't have all the tracking and ads like global models do.
I would 100% recommend this phone.

I just received mine today as a cheap run-around but I have so far no issues what so ever with MIUI. Despite having quite a bit less powerful than my Tab S7+ it feels almost as smooth and snappy. The only issue I had with this device was with the IR blaster but that was purely inadequate software. Uninstalled the stock app and one free app from the Play Store later and the IR blaster functions as expected and I can operate every TV in the house with it. I also found the colours to be a little bit blander than my S7+ but there's an option in the settings for colour schemes to always enhance the colours which makes the world of difference and now I'd say it's comparable with the colours on my Tab S4 which still has a beautiful screen even by today's standards.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
Why is it garbage. I went form slow and laggy S21 with OneUI to Mi 11, then to Note 10 Pro because of 3.5mm and cheaper price.
This is overall the best device i ever had, even better than Mi 11 while cheaper.
Miui has more features and it's much faster than OneUI, no lag and battery is incredible.
I also tried few custom roms, features are limited, no face unlock, app lock, etc...
However i use EU model that doesn't have all the tracking and ads like global models do.
I would 100% recommend this phone.
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An S21 should not have been slow and laggy AT ALL. Perhaps there was something wrong?

simonjonnemeth said:
An S21 should not have been slow and laggy AT ALL. Perhaps there was something wrong?
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Every samsung is laggy as soon as you install couple of apps and fill half of the storage. MIUI is faster, also battery is non comparable, both charging speeds and drain.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
Every samsung is laggy as soon as you install couple of apps and fill half of the storage. MIUI is faster, also battery is non comparable, both charging speeds and drain.
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With the shear amount of Samsung devices I have I can tell you with absolute certainty that that statement is not true at all. I have over 70 GB worth of apps on my Tab S7+ right now and it isn't phased at all. Even my old Tab S4 has managed a good 40 GB of apps with no slow down what so ever.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
Why is it garbage. I went form slow and laggy S21 with OneUI to Mi 11, then to Note 10 Pro because of 3.5mm and cheaper price.
This is overall the best device i ever had, even better than Mi 11 while cheaper.
Miui has more features and it's much faster than OneUI, no lag and battery is incredible.
I also tried few custom roms, features are limited, no face unlock, app lock, etc...
However i use EU model that doesn't have all the tracking and ads like global models do.
I would 100% recommend this phone.
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Its simply impossible to have more lag in S21 than in Note 10 Pro no matter how many apps you install, I mean look at the specs. One of them is factually the best Android phone and top tier flagship, competing with the likes of Pixel 6 and iPhone 13, and the other is a low-midrange tier phone.
And who said OneUI has no app lock or face unlock?
Did you use the budget One UI lite for low range Samsung phones? Low end samsung phones are terrible. Please stop spreading false information, or even if its true someone 100% conned you into buying a faulty or fake S21.
The statement "S21 is better than Note 10 Pro" makes zero sense. Its like saying iPhone 4 is better than iPhone 13

Done't buy any Xiaomi phones unless you are a Chinese citizen or use Chinese apps (MIUI is very optimised for the Chinese ecosystem), or you want to flash a custom ROM.
If you are okay with flashing custom ROMs and have tight budget limits then go for it

nasseef said:
Its simply impossible to have more lag in S21 than in Note 10 Pro no matter how many apps you install, I mean look at the specs. One of them is factually the best Android phone and top tier flagship, competing with the likes of Pixel 6 and iPhone 13, and the other is a low-midrange tier phone.
And who said OneUI has no app lock or face unlock?
Did you use the budget One UI lite for low range Samsung phones? Low end samsung phones are terrible. Please stop spreading false information, or even if its true someone 100% conned you into buying a faulty or fake S21.
The statement "S21 is better than Note 10 Pro" makes zero sense. Its like saying iPhone 4 is better than iPhone 13
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Note 10 Pro is faster than S21 "original obviously". You Samsung fanboys are in denial Samsung has terrible ram management, bad multitasking and is laggyer than Miui.
As far as App Lock or Face unlock i was talking about custom roms for Note 10 Pro based on Android 12.
With both Mi 11 and 10 Pro i had much better experience, multitasking is super fast when switching opened apps. For me it has to be instant, maybe you guys have higher tolerance on samsung phones.
However i will check out S22 ultra with that SD 8 Gen1 and hope for the best.

reylie99 said:
In my country it has a great price and is one of my top options. But I hear that miui has a lot of problems. Should I look for another phone from another phone brand instead or do i buy the redmi note 10 pro?
Edit: Im going to go with it and buy the redmi note 10 pro. People who have had it said that they didnt have any problems. I feel it in my guts that i will be happy if i buy this phone. Plus it has good specs, a big battery, a simple elegant design and miui has notification/quick toggle separation
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RN10 Pro is best phone you can get *for the money*. Pointless to be comparing it to higher models which are higher price then saying its not as good.
So far stellar experience for me and MIUI 12.5 (esp EU) is superior to other custom ROMs. Native based MIUI ROMs ensure you get the best camera performance as non-native ROMs degrade cam performance in one way or another. MIUI 12 is a vast improvement over past MIUI versions, and I presume those who dont like MIUI are speaking with these past versions in mind.
No.1 criterial I went for RN10 Pro is 5000MaH battery. Higher up phones have smaller batteries and with their more powerful chips drain battery quicker. I use my phone as a PHONE, not as a gaming device. So its from that perspective I speak. Gamers will speak in other terms and with other criteria in mind.

taco9 said:
So far stellar experience for me and MIUI 12.5 (esp EU) is superior to other custom ROMs.
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Trying to automatically unlock the phone when connecting Bluetooth to the car, I had to learn that MIUI is crippled against standard Android. Its Smart Unlock only unlocks against Xiaomi devices! But
1. Xiaomi does not manufacture any car
2. I moved away from Apple because they tried to lock me in their product portfolio.
By having a Samsung Galaxy S3 I learned that Samsung modifications of Android are not good. But Xiaomi seems to be not better.
The Note 10 Pro is a good device, but MIUI is a disadvantage. Like TouchWiz is a disadvantage for Samsung which lets me ignore any Samsung device before having seen any test and never recommend a Samsung device. By disabling standard Android functionality for marketing reasons Xiaomi is on the way to the same personal mental trashcan.

nasseef said:
Done't buy any Xiaomi phones unless you are a Chinese citizen or use Chinese apps (MIUI is very optimised for the Chinese ecosystem), or you want to flash a custom ROM.
If you are okay with flashing custom ROMs and have tight budget limits then go for it
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No, I've had no trouble at all with MIUI. The only things I'm not bothered about are the occasional ads in system apps and Mi Music but that's personal preference. The ads can be freely turned off in the settings in Mi Music btw. I'm using a port of Samsung Music on it which works amazingly and Oto is excellent as well.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
Note 10 Pro is faster than S21 "original obviously". You Samsung fanboys are in denial Samsung has terrible ram management, bad multitasking and is laggyer than Miui.
As far as App Lock or Face unlock i was talking about custom roms for Note 10 Pro based on Android 12.
With both Mi 11 and 10 Pro i had much better experience, multitasking is super fast when switching opened apps. For me it has to be instant, maybe you guys have higher tolerance on samsung phones.
However i will check out S22 ultra with that SD 8 Gen1 and hope for the best.
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I get it. You're a troll. Move along. I have the hardware and it says otherwise.

simonjonnemeth said:
I get it. You're a troll. Move along. I have the hardware and it says otherwise.
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OneUI isn't faster than MIUI. That's a fact.
I wish it was, i wouldn't have to use this Chinese spyware.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
OneUI isn't faster than MIUI. That's a fact.
I wish it was, i wouldn't have to use this Chinese spyware.
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I have both MIUI 13.0.3 and OneUI 4.0 to hand right in front of me and I'll argue every day that that simply isn't true. Search Google for OneUI vs MIUI and see what comes up.

simonjonnemeth said:
I have both MIUI 13.0.3 and OneUI 4.0 to hand right in front of me and I'll argue every day that that simply isn't true. Search Google for OneUI vs MIUI and see what comes up.
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Had both, don't need to search. On S21 i had lag/stuttering issues while multitasking and switching apps, i have no such problems on MIUI.
However this was late last summer, and OneUI 4 was just released, so it's probably fixed. I also had A71 and recently A52s, and since those are mid range they are also not faster in regular use than mid range Note 10 Pro.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
Had both, don't need to search. On S21 i had lag/stuttering issues while multitasking and switching apps, i have no such problems on MIUI.
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As above, you shouldn't have had at all and I don't so there must have been something wrong.

Question is this phone still the best bang for the buck in 2022

Is this still the best bang for the buck phone in 2022? custom ROMs still working good? issues ironed out? ShOuLd I bUy ThIs OvER a SaMmY pHoNe LiKe a A52?!?!??!

There is no manufacturer which I'd recommend without hesitation. Android is in a horrible state after the manufacturers modified it. For Xiaomi this is crippled Always-on-display, disabled Smart Unlock (Bluetooth) etc. Many restrictions for marketing purposes. MIUI is developed without understanding how the memory on Linux shall be managed: You keep everything in memory until someone wants it, so application switching is fast. The installed bloatware is ok, could uninstall it and thanks to DNS66 never saw an ad.
Samsung in my opinion is even worse than Xiaomi. If I buy a phone, it is my device. I want to be able to see all files on it and do a backup. But opening the bootloader Knox gets triggered. They modify big parts of Android for their UI, that's why updates cost them much effort to adopt their changes to new versions. More effort for Samsung, more bugs, worse experience for the user.
If you want a good Android experience, you probably should have a look at Google pixel phones. But bang for the buck is difficult here.
In summary given the choices I'd say the Xiaomi is fine. You could consider the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE if you don't need dual SIM and additional SD card, because 5G will replace 4G one day.

Imho yes but only when you use custom kernel and rom. If you stick with stock ones especially Miui 13 it really sucks, Miui is too resource heavy for 732g SOC. For example when driving I like to listen to spotify in the background and use google maps even though these tasks are fairly lightweight this phone with Miui 13 struggles to run them without stutters and freezes. If you're okay with running stock android like rom, that is when the SOC shines. It runs much more apps than spotify and maps no problem real fluid.

tag68 said:
There is no manufacturer which I'd recommend without hesitation. Android is in a horrible state after the manufacturers modified it. For Xiaomi this is crippled Always-on-display, disabled Smart Unlock (Bluetooth) etc. Many restrictions for marketing purposes. MIUI is developed without understanding how the memory on Linux shall be managed: You keep everything in memory until someone wants it, so application switching is fast. The installed bloatware is ok, could uninstall it and thanks to DNS66 never saw an ad.
Samsung in my opinion is even worse than Xiaomi. If I buy a phone, it is my device. I want to be able to see all files on it and do a backup. But opening the bootloader Knox gets triggered. They modify big parts of Android for their UI, that's why updates cost them much effort to adopt their changes to new versions. More effort for Samsung, more bugs, worse experience for the user.
If you want a good Android experience, you probably should have a look at Google pixel phones. But bang for the buck is difficult here.
In summary given the choices I'd say the Xiaomi is fine. You could consider the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE if you don't need dual SIM and additional SD card, because 5G will replace 4G one day.
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i'm kinda a die hard SD card and headphone jack dude - so this does limit my choices...i mean i had my galaxy note 4 for 6 years (with roms) lol and I'm just starting to get over the fact I won't be able to easily replace batteries in these new phones...ugh. thanks for your sobering input

no joke... a52 is more more better than this ridiculous note10pro... i have all tthese..
note 10 pro have miui orrible and with problems, custom roms with problems (aod, deep sleep, anx not working all).. and terrible drain... no no i have note4,note5 too but this note10 is bad..

Maybe A52s, i'm looking to sell my pristine 10 Pro and maybe get A52s.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
Maybe A52s, i'm looking to sell my pristine 10 Pro and maybe get A52s.
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interesting this is exactly what i'm deciding between...you had enough of playing with roms? what's the reason for the trade?

The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.

In my country Note 10 pro is around $350 brand new in stores for 128GB, and A52s is about 20-30 bucks more.
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The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.
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interesting this is exactly what i'm deciding between...you had enough of playing with roms? what's the reason for the trade?
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I like OneUI a bit better, however Redmi has a better build quality and better camera.

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In my country Note 10 pro is around $350 brand new in stores for 128GB, and A52s is about 20-30 bucks more.
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Interesting. The 6/64 I ordered is shipped from China, though, not in the store. Still, that's a huge markup.

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Interesting. The 6/64 I ordered is shipped from China, though, not in the store. Still, that's a huge markup.
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Everything is more expensive in EU.

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The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.
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i found at same prime when buyed.. 260 euro for note 5 pro, 280 for a52

Note 10 Pro has proven to be still better that the next gen, freshly released Note 11 Pro. Easy to repair because screens are on the 120 bucks mark while the back cover is solid plastic, very nice to see and touch and won't break if you pry it for a battery change. Also the silicon cover is great from preventing fall damage.
After debloating its very balanced on any task, but don't expect flagship peak performance by any means yet battery lasts a lot (on short usage sessions it lasted me 3 days without charging, 1,5-2 with continuous/intense usage). Imho, after years going Samsung-only I had enough with Knox nonsense, increasing sales pricing and hard-to-repair phones.

According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
The Note 11 pro review I saw at gsmarena would suggest that the Note 11 pro is mostly a downgrade from the Note 10 pro, except for the 5g bands.
Edit to add: There's a 4g and a 5g version for it.

Yes, still the best in this price range of ~230 USD.
Samsung A52 costs 390 USD lol, not even comparable here

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According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
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Yeah but 5G isn't available anywhere, plus the more users move into new cell tech the more smooth the 4G is going to be. Would not consider unless you're into high speed hype.
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According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
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Realization just struck me. I have the Glacial Blue version that, along with Vintage Bronze are in fact frosted glass while there's not much about the black version which seems to be more common here. I got blinded by disassembly videos where non-Pro versions were considered the same thing as for Pro, so I just made a mistake. Guess I will eventually challenge myself to remove it in future whenever necessary, such as a battery change. They still look pretty simple and solid to remove and the glass lens vessel is separate tho (right, Apple?). Thanks for pointing out!

Yes, personally I don't care for 5g. 4g LTE is fine. One thing that both of the Note 11 Pro models (4g & 5g) have are increased 4g bands, too, that make them more compatible in the U.S. (bands 12 & 66). If 5g or those additional 4g bands matter to someone, those are improvements/features to consider.
I also saw replacement backs for the Note 10 pro, for around $5, and watched a video that made it look easy to change. Hopefully never have to do that.

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no joke... a52 is more more better than this ridiculous note10pro... i have all tthese..
note 10 pro have miui orrible and with problems, custom roms with problems (aod, deep sleep, anx not working all).. and terrible drain... no no i have note4,note5 too but this note10 is bad..
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I have no problems with ANX, deep sleep, battery drain, etc. on my RN10P running the Project Sakura ROM. It's cool to prefer one phone over another, but spreading misinformation doesn't help anyone.

Development for this phone really isn't in a good place.
If you look at the latest posts on each of the ROMs, there's either big issues with heavy battery drain, touch issues or microphone problems.
Sad times

General Very Disappointed in OnePlus

The OP 10 Pro is the second time OP has truly disappointed me. The phone is only available with 128GB in the US. For a "pro" model, this is a joke. The $900 price puts it right at a PIxel 6 Pro and S22+ price. There is 0 reason to get the OnePlus vs those two, considering both have substantially better cameras, more support for accessories, and much bigger communities on XDA.
My most recent OP was the 9 (non-pro). I've been very disappointed with the cameras, as even an old Pixel 3 I have takes better pics in most conditions. I replaced it about a month ago with a Korean s20 Ultra (so I can root), and I'm never going back. Much better camera, so many case options, and even though the processor is an older model, it feels just as fast. Went with the 20 vs 21 for sdcard support, and having an extra 512gb for $60 is great. I have all my pics and vids ever on the phone. All OSM for US, Canada, and Mexico, tons of music on the phone for flying (which I do a lot).
I've been a long time OP supporter, right from the OP1, and have had every phone except the OP2. They seemed to lose their way with the 7 (I had to get a chinese model since I didn't want the pro), and have been on a decline ever since, charging more but not offering anything better except the new snapdragon processor.
Sorry for the rant. I'm sure the 10 pro will be a decent phone. Right on par with the 9 pro, which was a decent phone. I'm just not excited about OP releases any more, when I used to be online hitting refresh for the sale to open.
Doesn't help that Jerryrig snapped the phone in half very easily. Be careful, these look fragile.

No SD card slot regardless of the internal memory capacity is a severe handicap. Even 500gb internal memory isn't enough let alone 128gb without an SD card. Having a OS drive and data drive(s) is the best way to run any PC or smartphone.
Samsung has also dropped the Note and the ball on all their current Flagships.
They screwed their loyal power users Apple bad.
Google Adroid emulated Apple by adopting cpu cycling sucking, user unfriendly scoped storage.
Android 11 and up suck Apple bad now.
I have 2 N10+'s, the second new one was bought 5 months ago. One is running on 9, the newer one on 10.
Whatever. I'm good for a couple years.

OEM new device releases are always a rollercoaster
I just ordered the Global black 128gb 10 Pro to take it for a spin....

No dual-sim USA. No 256gb USA. Both deal-breakers for me.
I spoke with my money when I canceled and bought a pixel 6 pro instead.
#NeverSettle
Oneplus are a bunch of turds now.

Thr3kk said:
No dual-sim USA. No 256gb USA. Both deal-breakers for me.
I spoke with my money when I canceled and bought a pixel 6 pro instead.
#NeverSettle
Oneplus are a bunch of turds now.
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Pretty much this - I can't see a single advantage the OP10Pro has over the Pixel 6 Pro or s22 + or ultra. Granted, the sammy is a little more expensive.

I got the OP 10 Pro and I don't like the design after seeing it with my naked eyes and I'm gonna return this and get an S22 Plus!

In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb

HessNL said:
In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
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And 80W charge.

Buy chinese version for dual sim card

Or an european one - we have dual sim too.

HessNL said:
In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
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And 80W charge.
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Or an european one - we have dual sim too.
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True True, I picked up my copy of the OP 10PRO 12/256 today.
Moving from OP6 makes a difference

Fornacis said:
True True, I picked up my copy of the OP 10PRO 12/256 today.
Moving from OP6 makes a difference
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AH, yeah! Fromt the 6 is quite a big move indeed!
I came from the 8Pro, not a crazy difference, but with the trade-in I got just a little less of what I paid for at last year's Amazon Black Friday

I don't understand why anyone would buy this phone. Performance is the same or worse than a 9 Pro depending on what you are doing, has less storage and ram, is more fragile, and the camera system overall is worse. This phone is a flop.

Another interesting fact is that our local amazon has gone down in price. For the first two days it was 1029Euro, then they lowered the price by 6% to 964Euro.
Not much, but still something. Plus headphones (OnePlus Buds Pro) on sale in preorder and the price becomes bearable

I can test it for one day and here are few things...
80W and 65W are almost the same
Stereo speaker downgrade
With 50/50 mobile/wifi up to 5h SOT
No OxygenOS (its more ColorOS with Oxygen skin)
Front camera is much better
Yes, no IP68

galaxys said:
OEM new device releases are always a rollercoaster
I just ordered the Global black 128gb 10 Pro to take it for a spin....
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Hey,
You got the 10.. I just received mine today, good t see you.
Re: the OP.... Soon as there's some good pixel ROMs the photos back storage will be unlimited, 128GB for the most part is more than enough, at the end of the day it's a phone, would be nice to have more but not the end of the world.
Regarding the RAM, I'm not too upset by it.. should use less battery being 8 and not 12.. I don't think that there will be a performance hit.
Rest of the hardware is the same so I'm happy with it.
Guess if you really need 12 and 256 plus then I think your only option would be to buy direct.