Question New s21 ultra dies so fast - Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra

I just switched from having iPhones all my life to the Samsung s21 ultra thinking it was the best possible android phone to get but it’s literally uselsss. It goes from a full charge to almost dead after playing a game in about 2-3 hours. In comparison my iPhone 11 which I hadn’t charged in about a day than played the same game for about 6+ hours while having YouTube playing in the background still has enough battery to go on for hours. It literally goes from 100% to 95% just unplugging and looking at notifications… idk it seems I’ve made a huge mistake… I watched many reviews prior to buying it and they all said the s21 got hours of use before a charge.
my s21 spends more time charging than any actual use and I’m left with having to pull out my iPhone to play games and watch YouTube. Hell it’s charging right now and I’m writing this using my iphone…
is something wrong with s21 ultra or is this normal ?? Should I try to exchange it ?? I just got it like 5 days ago.

I charge mine once a day (at night while I sleep). And average 5-6 hours of SOT... Great battery life IMO.

You're burning up your battery.
2-3 hrs of high intensity gaming is a lot to ask from such a compact device. A least give a break every 15 minutes. Even watching vids I give my 10+ a break every 20-40 minutes even though it's using only 2-4% more power than when browsing the web.
The big question is how much battery is it using when idling and doing light tasks SOT?
Roughly...
Should be around 6%@hr
Browsing Brave 7-9%
Vids 9-11%
Screen off AOD always on, >1%@hr
Screen off AOD tap on >.5%
This is what a optimized 10+ is getting. Yours won't be the same but if there's a huge 10% SOT difference it's because there are apks sucking it dry. The AOD night rates should be very similar.
In fact the S21U with a 5000 vs the 10+'s 4300 mAh battery should do better. The S21U's memory is about 20% more efficient and the CPU should use less at idle. The wild card is Android 11 which I'm not found of, vs Pie with no scope storage. That said I think you should still be seeing similar run times.
What's eating the power? With Android you have options, many of them unlike plain Jane Apple*.
Is your screen brightness greater than 50%?
The display gets very bright and eats a lot more current as you go past 40%. It also wears out the AMOLED pixels a lot faster past 50% and maybe your retinas too.
Do not use in direct sunlight. Not only bad for the display but the sun's IR energy can overheat the little greenhouse phone rapidly.
AMOLED displays eat almost no current when black. Bright wallpapers do. Big bright icons do.
After the display consideration look for apks that are using too much and correct it.
Try disabling all power management for now except the display/power mode. Address each problem app separately and their dependencies.
You can use a Package Disabler to troubleshoot and kill bloatware and problem apps.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Disable Google Firebase, and all carrier, Samsung and Google feedback. Disable cloud apps if not needed. Keep trashware like FB, WhatsApp, Instagram, Twitter, etc off the phone. Privacy, security risks as well as battery hogs.
Use Karma Firewall to block internet access to apks and services that don't need it. It's freeware that uses almost no battery.
Use the native launcher, it's fast, very stable and very customizable.
That's just the beginning...
*stock Samsung's are the most customizable phones on the planet. Use the Galaxy Store themes and icon packs, hundreds of free ones.
Use the Good Lock family of customization apks.
Use Sound Assistant.
You can spend months playing with them alone.
I've used Apples and I hate them. They run well but are so limited compared to Androids. That plain Jane bores me to tears. Android are what you put into them. Nothing in, nothing out.
Play with it...

damienjp said:
I just switched from having iPhones all my life to the Samsung s21 ultra thinking it was the best possible android phone to get but it’s literally uselsss. It goes from a full charge to almost dead after playing a game in about 2-3 hours. In comparison my iPhone 11 which I hadn’t charged in about a day than played the same game for about 6+ hours while having YouTube playing in the background still has enough battery to go on for hours. It literally goes from 100% to 95% just unplugging and looking at notifications… idk it seems I’ve made a huge mistake… I watched many reviews prior to buying it and they all said the s21 got hours of use before a charge.
my s21 spends more time charging than any actual use and I’m left with having to pull out my iPhone to play games and watch YouTube. Hell it’s charging right now and I’m writing this using my iphone…
is something wrong with s21 ultra or is this normal ?? Should I try to exchange it ?? I just got it like 5 days ago.
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If you're unhappy with it, best to exchange it and go for the iPhone 12 Max. Especially if you are already comfortable with the apple ecosystem. There's no point being frustrated with your most used device, especially after paying top dollar for it. Personally, I would switch to an iPhone in a heartbeat if I thought they offered value for money (according to my standards) and if iOS allowed for a level of customisation I've come to love with Android. Biggest reason I can't do that is that I don't like Apple's way of doing things as far as software is concerned.
As far as poor SOT is concerned - 2-3 hours is indeed quite less, even with a game. In my experience, the S21U has pretty decent battery life (albeit not as great as my brother's iPhone 12 Pro Max), and it's in line (if not better) with other phones running the SD888 (very comparable to the E2100), but I haven't tested it with games.
Just curious, what made you switch over from a lifetime of iphones to the S21U? It'd be interesting to know an iOS users perspective.

blackhawk said:
You're burning up your battery.
2-3 hrs of high intensity gaming is a lot to ask from such a compact device. A least give a break every 15 minutes. Even watching vids I give my 10+ a break every 20-40 minutes even though it's using only 2-4% more power than when browsing the web.
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Even the newer iPhones use an OLED screen. They too run on Li batteries. If the usage is similar on both phones, 2-3 hours should'nt be a lot to ask from either device, right? Clearly restricting or modifying the user's behavious to cater to a device's personality shouldn't be the solution.
I guess each of us have different priorities and expectations. Your preference seems to be to disable everything that make Android phones so great - dim the 1500 nit screen and don't use in outdoors? Stop playing an engaging game every 15 mins? I'm sure it works in your use-case, but not everyone spends $1000+ for a crippled phone.
Then there's the fact that you have an entirely differnet device with a two generation old OS and completely different hardware!
The OP asked if he should exchange his device, if the S21U wasn't living up to his expectations, given his background of lifelong iPhone usage. The discussion wasn't about how to change his phone usage habits and teach him how a phone should be "properly" used.

There's a whole gamut of metrics to look at here: 1) iPhone screen resolutions are nowhere close to S21U's, 2) iPhone 11 doesn't come in 5G but S21U does, 3) iOS games are far better optimized for the OS than Android's, 4) Screen brightness, 5) background activities.
It's easy to pass a judgement before considering all the factors. I'm justifying that the S21U is better than iPhone or vice versa but you need to consider a lot of factors before closing an argument...Just my 2 cents

amirage said:
There's a whole gamut of metrics to look at here: 1) iPhone screen resolutions are nowhere close to S21U's, 2) iPhone 11 doesn't come in 5G but S21U does, 3) iOS games are far better optimized for the OS than Android's, 4) Screen brightness, 5) background activities.
It's easy to pass a judgement before considering all the factors. I'm justifying that the S21U is better than iPhone or vice versa but you need to consider a lot of factors before closing an argument...Just my 2 cents
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I agree with everything you just said.
Each person has to decide what is more important for him/her and choose accordingly.
No single phone is 'best'.
We get the device we like and need, and choose which compromises we're willing to live with.
In my example, I can't stand iOS, so I choose to live with Android. And among all phones out there, the S21U is my device of choice, with all its good and it's bad. I wouldn't exchange it for any phone out right now. But that may not be the case with everyone. For the OP, if long hours of gaming is a requirement, then the Apple SOC and optimised games push the dial towards iPhone.

If your battery is draining that quickly, there's a good chance it is defective. Before jumping to this conclusion, I would reset the device, keep it clean for like a day to see if the drain is still present. It would help to disable things like GPS (amongst other things) to see how much charge you lose over a few hours. In my experience, not all batteries come out the assembly line at 100% health - the same way that some products have defects while others don't.
If you have the option, contact Samsung, notify them of your experience. I have seen reports of people getting excellent battery performance on this phone. I have used Samsung devices in the past where battery life was really good. I wouldn't be so quick to write them (or Android for that matter) off.
Hope this helps.

I don't game, but here is about an average day for me. I could easily get another hour of SOT out of this.
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blackhawk said:
You're burning up your battery.
2-3 hrs of high intensity gaming is a lot to ask from such a compact device. A least give a break every 15 minutes. Even watching vids I give my 10+ a break every 20-40 minutes even though it's using only 2-4% more power than when browsing the web.
The big question is how much battery is it using when idling and doing light tasks SOT?
Roughly...
Should be around 6%@hr
Browsing Brave 7-9%
Vids 9-11%
Screen off AOD always on, >1%@hr
Screen off AOD tap on >.5%
This is what a optimized 10+ is getting. Yours won't be the same but if there's a huge 10% SOT difference it's because there are apks sucking it dry. The AOD night rates should be very similar.
In fact the S21U with a 5000 vs the 10+'s 4300 mAh battery should do better. The S21U's memory is about 20% more efficient and the CPU should use less at idle. The wild card is Android 11 which I'm not found of, vs Pie with no scope storage. That said I think you should still be seeing similar run times.
What's eating the power? With Android you have options, many of them unlike plain Jane Apple*.
Is your screen brightness greater than 50%?
The display gets very bright and eats a lot more current as you go past 40%. It also wears out the AMOLED pixels a lot faster past 50% and maybe your retinas too.
Do not use in direct sunlight. Not only bad for the display but the sun's IR energy can overheat the little greenhouse phone rapidly.
AMOLED displays eat almost no current when black. Bright wallpapers do. Big bright icons do.
After the display consideration look for apks that are using too much and correct it.
Try disabling all power management for now except the display/power mode. Address each problem app separately and their dependencies.
You can use a Package Disabler to troubleshoot and kill bloatware and problem apps.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Disable Google Firebase, and all carrier, Samsung and Google feedback. Disable cloud apps if not needed. Keep trashware like FB, WhatsApp, Instagram, Twitter, etc off the phone. Privacy, security risks as well as battery hogs.
Use Karma Firewall to block internet access to apks and services that don't need it. It's freeware that uses almost no battery.
Use the native launcher, it's fast, very stable and very customizable.
That's just the beginning...
*stock Samsung's are the most customizable phones on the planet. Use the Galaxy Store themes and icon packs, hundreds of free ones.
Use the Good Lock family of customization apks.
Use Sound Assistant.
You can spend months playing with them alone.
I've used Apples and I hate them. They run well but are so limited compared to Androids. That plain Jane bores me to tears. Android are what you put into them. Nothing in, nothing out.
Play with it...
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Solid, useful reply all around! Social media apps and google/samsung telemetry hurt your battery and privacy. After removing ones you don't need, you can use Blokada or another firewall to block trackers and ads from what remains. Tech tends to be better when kept simple.
My S10e gets around 6h SOT with most apps disabled through ADB, zero google apps except for play services, and F-Droid + open source apps for most things. I wish I could run a degoogled ROM with MicroG, but this setup is 80% of the way and Samsung's customization without root is solid.

Finn1sher said:
Solid, useful reply all around! Social media apps and google/samsung telemetry hurt your battery and privacy. After removing ones you don't need, you can use Blokada or another firewall to block trackers and ads from what remains. Tech tends to be better when kept simple.
My S10e gets around 6h SOT with most apps disabled through ADB, zero google apps except for play services, and F-Droid + open source apps for most things. I wish I could run a degoogled ROM with MicroG, but this setup is 80% of the way and Samsung's customization without root is solid.
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Now that you're not roasting your battery continue pick away at the serial offenders.
Try to get the SOT in the 7-11%@hr range.
Remember to clear system logs and clear the system cache.
Global ad blocking?
Easiest way...

I get over 19 hours on a full charge and play lots of games. Go to Settings > Battery and Device Care > Battery the touch the graph. That will show you which apps are using the most battery. Some games use a lot of battery up. And if you have Tiktok or Snapchat on your phone then those are known to cause battery drain.

Return the phone, 2 - 3 hours SOT is nowhere close to normal, even if you haven't optimized power consumption.

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OnePlus 6T Detailed User Review Thread

As the title states, this is a thread for OnePlus 6T users to provide their detailed user experience for others. Everyone's experience with the device and their use case is different, so I would love to see others' experiences with the device.
Previous devices: OG Pixel, Nexus 6P, Nexus 5, HTC M7, Galaxy S2, Moto G
Device model: McLaren Edition (10GB RAM, 256 GB Storage)
Time w/Device: 2 weeks
Rooted?: Stock, unrooted
Carrier: Mint Mobile (MVNO on T-Mobile network)
Setup description
Stock OP launcher, 3 email accounts (2 on push notification), wifi/BT/location/NFC all on at all times, 60% brightness
Typical usage
*I take advantage of the Warp charge function to top off the battery and go to bed at 100% battery
*Day starts around 6am and wake up to about 98% battery, may listen to music or have YT playing while getting ready for work and get in my car for work by generally 6:45am
*Stream music/podcast on the commute, which is typically about 30 minutes
*At work, mostly on wifi. Will check twitter and other news feeds throughout the day, listen to music/podcast through wireless earbuds (Jabra 65T) for a few hours, maybe a few minutes of YT and phone calls, intermittently respond to texts and emails
*Will leave work around 6:30 to 7pm and will listen to music/podcasts during the commute which is another 30 minutes
*Arrive home and will mostly use the phone to stream YT, take pictures/videos of my son, read articles/books up until an hour or so before bed - this will take the battery down to ~40% ish most days
*No gaming for me
*Put the phone on charger while I finish some errands around the home and getting ready for bed
*On weekends, usage varies with family activities so it would be a bit heavier usage with more photos and video recording, GPS, along with more media consumption than normal
General thoughts
*Headphone jack - I thought the headphone jack would be a bigger issue than it is. I really have not missed it at all, but I'm also not an audiophile nor have I spent much on expensive headphones over the years.
*LED notification - It's something that I do miss. Without having the color coded LED, I find myself unlocking the phone more often to make sure I'm not missing any urgent notifications - I may try out some of the alternatives suggested in XDA
*Camera - It's good enough, but nothing spectacular. Photos are great in good lighting and the video quality is miles better than my OG Pixel. I do notice a bit more of a shutter lag than expected (any options to minimize this?) which has been annoying especially with a toddler running around to ensure each picture taking is a challenge. Front facing camera is also generally ok, nothing special.
*In-screen finger print sensor - The in-screen fingerprint sensor is pretty dang cool and it'll turn some heads... but as it states in most reviews, it's definitely a hair slower and less reliable than the standard FS in most of the flagships phones today. By no means it's unusable, far from it, but you will absolutely have an adjustment period with the phone unlocking experience in the first few days. I did notice it got a bit more reliable in the past few days but still will be unresponsive a couple times per day
*Performance - I'm sure most people know this already, but this thing is amazing in terms of speed and performance. Nothing I can add that hasn't been said already except that I have not ran into any stutter issues during my usage and this phone runs REALLY COOL compared to any of my previous phones.
*Display - Very crisp and great viewing angles and vibrant colors. It makes my OG Pixel display look washed out and flat in comparison. Coming from a phone with large bezels, it's very cool to have such big screen real estate available to the user for media consumption and during app usage
*Battery - Based on my use case noted above, I typically will be on pace for about 30+ hours of usage with 6-8 hours of SoT. This is the first phone I have ever had where I can use the phone without having battery anxiety in the afternoon (Few screenshots of the battery performance attached).
*Software - I like Oxygen OS way more than the stock Android experience which has been a pleasant surprise. I have not had the urge to get Nova launcher or install different ROMs because of the features and customization available from the stock experience. Both the quick and navigation gestures are very cool and functional, my favorite being the ">" and "<" gestures to skip tracks.
*Other things - I mentioned Warp charging above, but it's incredibly fast... The battery is already so good to begin with that it won't take long to get it back to 100% from where it would be at the end of my work day and IMO it more than makes up for not having wireless charging. This version of the 6T is absolutely gorgeous... but man it feels fragile with the glass exterior... I put a clear case around it almost immediately. The physical slider (toggle vibrate, silent, ring) is something that I didn't know I would find so useful. I have average sized hands, and the phone is definitely a bit on the large side if you are looking for a device that is one hand friendly.
Conclusion
Being the most recent phone that I have purchased, it's not surprising that the OP 6T is the best phone I have ever owned. Performance, battery life and overall experience in using the device is just miles better than my OG Pixel (which I was pretty happy with). If you have a 2+ year old device and don't want to shell out a $1,000+, you should consider this phone. The value prop on this phone is off the charts compared to many of the more expensive flagships. There are some things that can be better (camera, wireless charging, LED notification), but the overall user experience on the 6T is incredible and it's one of my most satisfying purchase of the past few years.
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Not sure why it didn't get posted earlier.

The Galaxy Note 9 (exynos) IS a battery phone.

I found myself customizing my new device as always from day one. I'm still running rootless with great satisfaction: one ui in superb in managing screen dimensions, good lock 2019 gives me the perk to optimize my multitasking, thanks to the community i run great gestures interface. I use no compromise: always on high performance mode, WQHD+, 4G+ always on, sync with 2 push emails 90% of the time it's on, lot of Bluetooth devices connected specially when I'm home (headphones, computer, amazon echo, bluetooth earbuds). I made a very light debloat with adhell that counts about 20 apps disabled (including all bixby services, which don't drain much battery tough).
I have about 180GB occupied out of 512, roughly 2.5/3 gb of ram always available and no heavy app optimization services enabled (just adaptive battery as far as I can tell). I normally DON'T close apps from multitasking. I make heavy usage of multiwindow specially from messaging apps trough notification bubbles. Always on display only when I'm home. You can see below my usage which may vary from day to day but consistently delivers incredible performances and very exciting battery results.
The device is an SM-N960F 8/512, so it's the exynos one.
In following posts I'm posting other days of battery I have record of in as much detail as I could get at the time.
Day 2
Day 3
Same Setup here.
My Exynos last 3 Days with 7Hrs Screen On, or 2 Days with 8-9Hrs Screen On.
Right ATM iam on :
76% Battery left.
Usage Time : 20Hrs and 46 Min.
Screen On : 2Hrs and 3 Min.
Mixed Usage between Wifi and 4G.
But just using Samsung Browser, Youtube and Whatsapp. No Games or whatever.
Maybe i can reach this Time 8 Hrs Screen On with 4 Days of usage. But i think, maximum is 3 Days with 7Hrs.
I dont fight for battery. Iam just a light user. And i did debloat and use routines (Android 9). No enerysaver. 1080P
Exynos here.
Exynos here too
4G/4G+ always active outdoors, WiFi at home
Screen brightness on manual, above 60% most of the time
1440p active, I refuse to downgrade the display to 1080p
Bluetooth on moderately, headphones & computer
Chrome as my browser
Social apps include Twitter & WhatsApp
"Disabled" a couple services through adb (pm uninstall) method ~ not including Bixby although I never use it.. ever
Always on display is set to "Tap To Show"
Consistently leave my house with 100% battery early hours 6-8am & return home with 30% (or higher) without fail
My charging method varies, I either fast charge it in the evening & got to bed with it on 100% and wake up with it on 97%+ or I wirelessly charge overnight and wake with it on 100% using the official Samsung convertible charger
Overall, I couldn't be happier with its battery life.
Sprov said:
I found myself customizing my new device as always from day one. I'm still running rootless with great satisfaction: one ui in superb in managing screen dimensions, good lock 2019 gives me the perk to optimize my multitasking, thanks to the community i run great gestures interface. I use no compromise: always on high performance mode, WQHD+, 4G+ always on, sync with 2 push emails 90% of the time it's on, lot of Bluetooth devices connected specially when I'm home (headphones, computer, amazon echo, bluetooth earbuds). I made a very light debloat with adhell that counts about 20 apps disabled (including all bixby services, which don't drain much battery tough).
I have about 180GB occupied out of 512, roughly 2.5/3 gb of ram always available and no heavy app optimization services enabled (just adaptive battery as far as I can tell). I normally DON'T close apps from multitasking. I make heavy usage of multiwindow specially from messaging apps trough notification bubbles. Always on display only when I'm home. You can see below my usage which may vary from day to day but consistently delivers incredible performances and very exciting battery results.
The device is an SM-N960F 8/512, so it's the exynos one.
In following posts I'm posting other days of battery I have record of in as much detail as I could get at the time.
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May I ask do you doing any restoration, or data transfer from Smart Switch, Samsung Cloud or Google backup?
Or you just set it as a fresh new device?
I NEVER fast charge because I really have no need with this battery performance. @maple_mak I never wiped the device since i bought it, I made a dirty flash via ota for upgrading to Pie/OneUi, then installed as zip all the betas until I upgraded to stable and had 3 security patches from that moment. At the time I tried to fresh install as many things as possible but of course my samsung account and google account synced many data. If you have problems with battery I suggest you to choose wisely the apps you use and monitor their battery usage carefully. You can use gsam for that. The idea is that you need the device to do as less things as possible both in background and foreground: any automated activity drains battery, use features only if you strictly need them.
if you really can't understand what your battery problem is, I suggest a fresh install of the OS and most important after that a good set up of the system without installing "garbage". With garbage I also mean things that are useful to you but drain battery and execute tasks continously
No idea how you manage that. I've already dropped 12% in 2 hours ? this is my first Samsung since the S7 Edge, I probably won't get another after this. Not a fan of OneUI and the countless preinstalled junk apps that I never use lol
dazr87 said:
No idea how you manage that. I've already dropped 12% in 2 hours ? this is my first Samsung since the S7 Edge, I probably won't get another after this. Not a fan of OneUI and the countless preinstalled junk apps that I never use lol
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You can essentially disable most pre-installed apps through adb
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
You can essentially disable most pre-installed apps through adb
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Oh I know. Just can't be bothered having to do it lol rather they weren't there to begin with. I mainly bought it for the stylus, but I rarely use it. I think a smaller device in the future will suit better
Sprov said:
I found myself customizing my new device as always from day one. I'm still running rootless with great satisfaction: one ui in superb in managing screen dimensions, good lock 2019 gives me the perk to optimize my multitasking, thanks to the community i run great gestures interface. I use no compromise: always on high performance mode, WQHD+, 4G+ always on, sync with 2 push emails 90% of the time it's on, lot of Bluetooth devices connected specially when I'm home (headphones, computer, amazon echo, bluetooth earbuds). I made a very light debloat with adhell that counts about 20 apps disabled (including all bixby services, which don't drain much battery tough).
I have about 180GB occupied out of 512, roughly 2.5/3 gb of ram always available and no heavy app optimization services enabled (just adaptive battery as far as I can tell). I normally DON'T close apps from multitasking. I make heavy usage of multiwindow specially from messaging apps trough notification bubbles. Always on display only when I'm home. You can see below my usage which may vary from day to day but consistently delivers incredible performances and very exciting battery results.
The device is an SM-N960F 8/512, so it's the exynos one.
In following posts I'm posting other days of battery I have record of in as much detail as I could get at the time.
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thanks for sharing this. U helped me made my decision on getting my Note 9 despite its been quite some time it has been launched.
gxthelord said:
thanks for sharing this. U helped me made my decision on getting my Note 9 despite its been quite some time it has been launched.
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You're welcome! I hope you got a good deal - I'm under contract with samsung so I will switch for few bucks to the note 10 as it gets on the market, tough the idea of staying on this note 9 for a year more doesn't hurt me at all. Enjoy your new machine
Since last 2 Pie Updates..batterylife getting closer and closer to Oreo. A bit more optimazion and we are back on Oreo runtime.
Sprov said:
I found myself customizing my new device as always from day one. I'm still running rootless with great satisfaction: one ui in superb in managing screen dimensions, good lock 2019 gives me the perk to optimize my multitasking, thanks to the community i run great gestures interface. I use no compromise: always on high performance mode, WQHD+, 4G+ always on, sync with 2 push emails 90% of the time it's on, lot of Bluetooth devices connected specially when I'm home (headphones, computer, amazon echo, bluetooth earbuds). I made a very light debloat with adhell that counts about 20 apps disabled (including all bixby services, which don't drain much battery tough).
I have about 180GB occupied out of 512, roughly 2.5/3 gb of ram always available and no heavy app optimization services enabled (just adaptive battery as far as I can tell). I normally DON'T close apps from multitasking. I make heavy usage of multiwindow specially from messaging apps trough notification bubbles. Always on display only when I'm home. You can see below my usage which may vary from day to day but consistently delivers incredible performances and very exciting battery results.
The device is an SM-N960F 8/512, so it's the exynos one.
In following posts I'm posting other days of battery I have record of in as much detail as I could get at the time.
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Hi, Would you mind sharing the 20 or so apps that you disabled? I'm not getting anywhere near your battery usage, and it would be great to improve it.
Thanks
silverwings2008 said:
Hi, Would you mind sharing the 20 or so apps that you disabled? I'm not getting anywhere near your battery usage, and it would be great to improve it.
Thanks
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Yes! It's not all the story since the apps consumption is negligible if you don't really use them, for instance be careful to disable functions that use sensor like the ones in advanced features, try to use as less bluetooth perks with the s-pen, careful with location and try to stay below 80% brightness. Charge without fast charging and stay as much as you can between 15%-85% battery.
Here the apps/services i disabled:
"Bixby" voice wake-up
Apps edge
Bixby home
Bixby Service
Bixby Vision
Bixby Voice
Bixby Voice stub
BixbyVision Framework
Bookmark Provider
Calendar (I use the Google one)
Clipboard edge
CoolEUKor (it's a font... whatever)
Customization Service (be careful this can mess up some elements of the ui like multitasking. I use good lock apps and have no problems. You can always disable Customization Service from your samsung account manager even if you leave the app active on your device: https://www.samsung.com/us/account/customization-service/ )
Edge Screen
Facebook
Facebook App Installer
Facebook App Manager
Facebook Services
Finance (yahoo)
Galaxy essential widget
Gear VR Service
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Play Music
Google VR Services
Instagram
Kids Home Installer
Linkedin
OneDrive
People Edge
PowerPoint
Samsung Galaxy Friends
Samsung Internet Panel
Secure Wi-Fi
Sports (yahoo)
SystemUIBixby2
Tasks Edge
Wearable Manager Installer
Youtube (I use another app)
upday
of course you can enable the ones you want if you use them
I also changed my dns to 1.1.1.1, don't know the impact of it in terms of battery
Black theme to everything you are comfortable with
Setting to auto the always on display or using the feature that doesn't allow the phone to turn on in pocket use the ambient light sensor and proximity sensor - this drains some battery
Try to block as many notifications from apps as you can
My suggestions could never end XD try navigate every menu and value every option. Shortcuts don't really matter but the things related to sensors or automation consume battery. Every little thing you can adjust to your real need make the difference
Thanks for the tips @Sprov
Did you uninstall them via adb or just put them to sleep?
DNS, you just using an app for that?
Thanks
I use adhell both for disable apps and change my dns. It's a bit tricky to setup fhe first time, there's an official guide, with some passages peculiar for the note 9. You can search for the thread here on xda. You need also to get a knox license from samsung, all of this requires about 30 minutes the first time. Main use of adhell is ad blocking at system level but it has a lot of features. If you're only interested in dns and disabling apps you can do it with adb with the latter, for the DNS there's an option in the Connection settings on the phone: in More Connection Settings tap on Private DNS and type 1dot1dot1dot1.cloudflare-dns.com
Adhell doesn't work anymore because samsung changed criteria to get KNOX license. From now on I will use package disabler pro OR ADB to disable system apps and services, for ADS blocking I changed the DNS from the "more connection settings", you can use the one from ADguard or get a customizable one from nextdns.com
Man, I can't believe you're getting such awesome battery life from the SM-N960F. I have the same device (512GB variant) and I barely get 3hours SOT. I think I could get more SOT if I really pushed for it but I don't use my phone as often as some. I just don't see why it should be down to less than 15% when I go to bed (11-12pm) after taking it off charge in the morning at around 8am!
I did a google drive app restore when I set up the device so maybe this is causing the battery drain? or is there a chance I have a faulty device? I am still within my 30 day return period with the seller so should I return it?
Forgot to attach screenshot.

2 days absolute max battery life with 'normal' use?

Morning all.
Something that has been slightly bothering me since I got this phone....it has a massive battery, it can be heavily customised with roms, xposed modules, magisk modules and all manner of tweaks. Probably one of the most open and dev-friendly devices I've ever had.
Yet, no matter what I do the only way I have ever been able to get more than 2 days out of a battery is to literally not use the phone.
I have had devices in the past such as Xperia Z3 Compact, S7 Active and others with smaller battery that were easily able to push 3 days with regular use. Hell, the Z3C was able to get up to 5 days with a little bit of trickery turning off radios when not in use etc.
Is the extra diagonal inch of screen realestate really enough to destroy the battery longevity? Typically with normal usage I am seeing 2 days with about 4.5 hours of screen-on time.
I've experimented with just about everything to push this out including no official facebook apps, decreased resolution, medium power-saving mode, kernel tweaks (currently using TGP rom and kernel), auto-sync turned off. Going beyond this I feel like you may as well just use a push-button device.
Any devs care to comment? What is the main factor that eats the battery on the Note 9? Is the exynos processor just not that power-efficient? Am I missing some hidden gem?
I guess the next step would be to transition to an AOSP based rom where the customisation is not constrained by baked-in samsung features but again, this is giving up a lot including proper s-pen functionality.
I recently kitted out an LG V30+ for my wife and it is just insane to me that a phone which only has a 3300mah battery can get the same life as the Note9 or better.
Is there some strategy I have missed or is this really the best we can hope for? Seems like an extremely inefficient use of 4000mah to me.
bandario said:
Morning all.
Something that has been slightly bothering me since I got this phone....it has a massive battery, it can be heavily customised with roms, xposed modules, magisk modules and all manner of tweaks. Probably one of the most open and dev-friendly devices I've ever had.
Yet, no matter what I do the only way I have ever been able to get more than 2 days out of a battery is to literally not use the phone.
I have had devices in the past such as Xperia Z3 Compact, S7 Active and others with smaller battery that were easily able to push 3 days with regular use. Hell, the Z3C was able to get up to 5 days with a little bit of trickery turning off radios when not in use etc.
Is the extra diagonal inch of screen realestate really enough to destroy the battery longevity? Typically with normal usage I am seeing 2 days with about 4.5 hours of screen-on time.
I've experimented with just about everything to push this out including no official facebook apps, decreased resolution, medium power-saving mode, kernel tweaks (currently using TGP rom and kernel), auto-sync turned off. Going beyond this I feel like you may as well just use a push-button device.
Any devs care to comment? What is the main factor that eats the battery on the Note 9? Is the exynos processor just not that power-efficient? Am I missing some hidden gem?
I guess the next step would be to transition to an AOSP based rom where the customisation is not constrained by baked-in samsung features but again, this is giving up a lot including proper s-pen functionality.
I recently kitted out an LG V30+ for my wife and it is just insane to me that a phone which only has a 3300mah battery can get the same life as the Note9 or better.
Is there some strategy I have missed or is this really the best we can hope for? Seems like an extremely inefficient use of 4000mah to me.
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This is what you get when you use a high performance chip.
If it was like cars.. just because the gas tank is big (battery) doesn't mean that the engine won't consume the fuel faster than a more Efficient engine (cpu) with less power.
Other phones might be able to last 3 days, but they also dont have the performance capabilities. Turn on extreme power saving and see how long the phone lasts ...
I'm using stock unbranded ROM. I also adp uninstalled all the Facebook system apps (devil-ware). With Pie + OneUI + Night mode + Dark UI apps, it's the first time I love stock. I bet your non-stock ROM + TGP is the culprit.
I charge nightly on a wireless charge pad; easy on the battery. In Device Care, I run the default "Optimized" setting. I use it moderately for the first 12 hours of my working day (meetings phone calls), and I often have 85-90% charge left at that point. I then use the phone HEAVILY for the next 4 hours (watching video, reading, etc.), and at that point I am never below 50% (often 60-70) when I put it back on the charge pad, go to sleep, and start the whole thing over again. I have the US version (Snapdragon), darkmode and auto brightness is always on, and I use Automate to toggle my wifi off when not home and back on when home. Other than that, I have gps, bluetooth, and phone data always on. Bluetooth pairs with my watch and car, and gps auto-toggles by the kernel whenever I load maps or whenever my Life360 app updates my location (every few minutes).
That's all fairly normal use with a bit of power-savings thought into it. If you cannot get similar performance without your screen brightness jacked way up and wifi always on (that eats battery as you move around), then maybe you have a power-hungry app. Check your Device Care section of Settings, and start watching your "Usage by apps".
Also, it's better to slow-charge than fast-charge (wears it out more quickly). And you are better off charging nightly than waiting two days until it's very low.
gruuvin said:
I charge nightly on a wireless charge pad; easy on the battery. In Device Care, I run the default "Optimized" setting. I use it moderately for the first 12 hours of my working day (meetings phone calls), and I often have 85-90% charge left at that point. I then use the phone HEAVILY for the next 4 hours (watching video, reading, etc.), and at that point I am never below 50% (often 60-70) when I put it back on the charge pad, go to sleep, and start the whole thing over again. I have the US version (Snapdragon), darkmode and auto brightness is always on, and I use Automate to toggle my wifi off when not home and back on when home. Other than that, I have gps, bluetooth, and phone data always on. Bluetooth pairs with my watch and car, and gps auto-toggles by the kernel whenever I load maps or whenever my Life360 app updates my location (every few minutes).
That's all fairly normal use with a bit of power-savings thought into it. If you cannot get similar performance without your screen brightness jacked way up and wifi always on (that eats battery as you move around), then maybe you have a power-hungry app. Check your Device Care section of Settings, and start watching your "Usage by apps".
Also, it's better to slow-charge than fast-charge (wears it out more quickly). And you are better off charging nightly than waiting two days until it's very low.
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A lot of people don't realize the huge difference that your cellular connection strength makes a difference on your battery.
Try working in a all brick/stone bank building, where 250kb/s is a good 4g download speed... Then see what your battery looks like after a few hours.
Bober_is_a_troll said:
A lot of people don't realize the huge difference that your cellular connection strength makes a difference on your battery.
Try working in a all brick/stone bank building, where 250kb/s is a good 4g download speed... Then see what your battery looks like after a few hours.
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YEP!
And same goes for wifi.....
wifi and cell radios can really eat up battery if they are trying to maintain a connection in areas where wifi/phone signal is weak. And app like Tasker or Automate can toggle these on and off, depending on your location, and really save battery.
Well, that probably explains a few things. I moved in to a SOLID brick building recently with double glazing everywhere and multiple solid brick internal walls. First time I've ever battled for cell and wifi signal...that does explain a lot. I guess 2 days is still pretty good. Might end up with one of those 10,000mah Chinafones eventually ;p

question for pixel 5 owners

Hi !
I bought the pixel 5 for 10 months now. I love it but I wanted to know if other owners of this pixel 5 had the same concerns.
Whatever I do, basic uses like Twitter, Gmail, chrome... Behind at the top next to the photo module, The phone is always hot. I wonder if this is normal, and if you also have your pixel 5 heating up there.
Also I don't know if it's due to the fact that it often heats up, but I've always heard wonders about the battery of the pixel 5, But I must say that this is not my case, I had changed from my pixel 4 which I loved because the battery was really bad, but there on this pixel 5 the battery is better but not by much. I can only get 3-5 hours of screen time on a 100% charge. While I had seen a lot of 6-7 hours. So how much screen time can you do with your Pixel 5 on a 100% charge?
Thank you.
While I don’t own the phone i must say that newer phones heat up quicker in general. Most YouTube reviewers are just bias or dishonest, it’s all about your own experience with the phone. If your phone heats up it could probably be because your tackling the processor to much or overloading the available little ram the phone has, which causes the phone to heat up, because the phone is trying to keep up with your tasks. Try limiting processes, often restart the phone, and keep it in a cool environment (which is a difficult thing to do specifically with the hot weather these days), yeah that. I don’t know about the screen on time, but you shouldn’t believe reviewers to much.
I can easily go all day on a full charge with some pretty moderate use, including constant music streaming. I don't have any heat issues.
8GB RAM is not "little"; if you're running out of memory on a Pixel 5, you probably need to reevaluate your application load. The only app I have constantly running is NordVPN.
Your right, I thought that the Pixel 5 had 4GB Ram, because I forgot that it had 8GB
To further improve battery, you can restrict apps so they don't drain battery while the screen is off. Settings > Battery > Battery usage, select the apps you want to restrict while in the background, then select Restricted.
^^^
my comment is deleted because I was just parroting the comment above. The post above is the proper way

Question Phone Overheats and Fast battery drain with normal use

Phone been using for 2 weeks now first week battery was horrible getting only 3 hours of SOT per full charge and now i get around 5-6 hours per full charge with medium use(tiktok and playing Clash of Clans)
that said i notice cpu usage around 30% and gpu around 10% when in tiktok which shoudn't even get the phone hot but somehow it ends up hot and battery drains super fast is there any fix since this battery life is just like my 4 year old phone which was one of the main reasons to change
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QHD+ 120hz are my settings
A lot of social media crapware. I never allow that on the phone. They eat battery and have a huge potential as a security risk. If I can't access/login to a site through the browser, I don't use it.
Xrodn34 said:
Phone been using for 2 weeks now first week battery was horrible getting only 3 hours of SOT per full charge and now i get around 5-6 hours per full charge with medium use(tiktok and playing Clash of Clans)
that said i notice cpu usage around 30% and gpu around 10% when in tiktok which shoudn't even get the phone hot but somehow it ends up hot and battery drains super fast is there any fix since this battery life is just like my 4 year old phone which was one of the main reasons to change
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QHD+ 120hz are my settings
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Trust me tiktok is a massive drain. It's horrifically intrusive, yes I know it has its moments.. But it's basically spyware for China.
5-6 hours is probably totally normal.
I've got a list of things so I'll attach below ...
if you follow half of that then you'll improve your battery massively.
The first thing I'd change is QHD you honestly do not need it, even 720p would look adequate on a 6 inch screen, my nebula mars 2 pro is 720 and even at 120 inches looks like HD, so being able to see the difference between 1080p and 4K is indistinguishable.
Here's the tips.
Change 5G to 4G
Remove Facebook use web based
Remove Facebook messenger use web based
Remove Twitter use web based
Remove any ad based apps pay for the pro version
Turn off gestures like lift to wake
Change from QHD to FHD (No difference)
Allow auto brightness
Turn off WiFi overnight
Turn all updates to manual not auto (play store)
Remove any so you don't use
Change back up to once a month (WhatsApp)
Turn off location history (Google)
Use titanium to remove any system apps you don't need
Don't allow anonymous usage statistics for any app ever.
Don't allow tracking cookies on any website
Use adaway (root needed)
Don't open web pages in Google app (I use Samsung browser)
Don't use xposed.
If you game you will not get high SOT scores, period.
Don't bother with battery saving apps or monitoring apps.
Streamline your apps, if you don't use it, remove it.
Don't allow WiFi scanning (as in letting other apps use it when it's not on)
Never allow personalised ads.
Never allow notifications from websites
Always decline cookies unless your absolutely have to allow some tracking (common sense prevails here)
Optimise as many apps as possible unless it affects performance.
Don't allow apps to remain open in the notification area.
Change your launcher, my preferred launcher is lawn chair and this did actually burn up some battery when compared to the OnePlus launcher.
Don't use live widgets (yes they look cool, but they annihilate your battery)
Live wallpaper, again very cool, but battery burners.
Again! Don't charge overnight, make a note of your percentage then see what it is in the morning, you shouldn't be losing more than 5% really, if you've done well then it'll be reflected here, the good SOT results will follow.
Turn off live read outs of network speed, RAM usage in the status bar.
Turn off NFC unless in use.
Leave location on in quick settings.
Don't overcharge your phone, IE: overnight
Don't allow your phone to fully deplete the battery.
Whatever anyone says, this does 100% damage batteries, there is no argument here and I won't entertain anyone who says otherwise, Ive seen through real life tests what this results in, bloated, inefficient, possibly dangerous lithium batteries.
Keep your phone out the sun.
Keep it out of extreme cold.
Keep your device clean dust free.
Snapchat, Viber, house party, apps like that tends to use more battery as they don't have great dormancy periods.
Apps like speed test by Ookla tend to have location tracking, similarly they tend to turn themselves on and off when they feel like it, my advice, install test and uninstall.
Allow a couple of battery cycles between tweaking sets, to give you an idea of how much of a difference you've made.
Use BBS to see what is being used, once you've removed problems, remove BBS.
I've just written this from the top of my head so o probably missed some things, the general idea is to keep your device clean and fresh, remove files you don't need any more.
Keep an eye on apps that misbehave or aren't wanted, index your folders so they aren't a mess.
The more good things you do means the more potentially bad apps you can have on your phone, eg if you really need Facebook, you could keep it so long as you clean up other areas of your phone.
Good luck.
dladz said:
Trust me tiktok is a massive drain. It's horrifically intrusive, yes I know it has its moments.. But it's basically spyware for China.
5-6 hours is probably totally normal.
I've got a list of things so I'll attach below ...
if you follow half of that then you'll improve your battery massively.
The first thing I'd change is QHD you honestly do not need it, even 720p would look adequate on a 6 inch screen, my nebula mars 2 pro is 720 and even at 120 inches looks like HD, so being able to see the difference between 1080p and 4K is indistinguishable.
Here's the tips.
Change 5G to 4G
Remove Facebook use web based
Remove Facebook messenger use web based
Remove Twitter use web based
Remove any ad based apps pay for the pro version
Turn off gestures like lift to wake
Change from QHD to FHD (No difference)
Allow auto brightness
Turn off WiFi overnight
Turn all updates to manual not auto (play store)
Remove any so you don't use
Change back up to once a month (WhatsApp)
Turn off location history (Google)
Use titanium to remove any system apps you don't need
Don't allow anonymous usage statistics for any app ever.
Don't allow tracking cookies on any website
Use adaway (root needed)
Don't open web pages in Google app (I use Samsung browser)
Don't use xposed.
If you game you will not get high SOT scores, period.
Don't bother with battery saving apps or monitoring apps.
Streamline your apps, if you don't use it, remove it.
Don't allow WiFi scanning (as in letting other apps use it when it's not on)
Never allow personalised ads.
Never allow notifications from websites
Always decline cookies unless your absolutely have to allow some tracking (common sense prevails here)
Optimise as many apps as possible unless it affects performance.
Don't allow apps to remain open in the notification area.
Change your launcher, my preferred launcher is lawn chair and this did actually burn up some battery when compared to the OnePlus launcher.
Don't use live widgets (yes they look cool, but they annihilate your battery)
Live wallpaper, again very cool, but battery burners.
Again! Don't charge overnight, make a note of your percentage then see what it is in the morning, you shouldn't be losing more than 5% really, if you've done well then it'll be reflected here, the good SOT results will follow.
Turn off live read outs of network speed, RAM usage in the status bar.
Turn off NFC unless in use.
Leave location on in quick settings.
Don't overcharge your phone, IE: overnight
Don't allow your phone to fully deplete the battery.
Whatever anyone says, this does 100% damage batteries, there is no argument here and I won't entertain anyone who says otherwise, Ive seen through real life tests what this results in, bloated, inefficient, possibly dangerous lithium batteries.
Keep your phone out the sun.
Keep it out of extreme cold.
Keep your device clean dust free.
Snapchat, Viber, house party, apps like that tends to use more battery as they don't have great dormancy periods.
Apps like speed test by Ookla tend to have location tracking, similarly they tend to turn themselves on and off when they feel like it, my advice, install test and uninstall.
Allow a couple of battery cycles between tweaking sets, to give you an idea of how much of a difference you've made.
Use BBS to see what is being used, once you've removed problems, remove BBS.
I've just written this from the top of my head so o probably missed some things, the general idea is to keep your device clean and fresh, remove files you don't need any more.
Keep an eye on apps that misbehave or aren't wanted, index your folders so they aren't a mess.
The more good things you do means the more potentially bad apps you can have on your phone, eg if you really need Facebook, you could keep it so long as you clean up other areas of your phone.
Good luck.
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or better, dont use your phone xD
marko94 said:
or better, dont use your phone xD
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Nah, just learn to use it right.. I use mine a lot and get over 10 hours SOT consistently in a single charge.
Just need to treat it right...
dladz said:
Trust me tiktok is a massive drain. It's horrifically intrusive, yes I know it has its moments.. But it's basically spyware for China.
5-6 hours is probably totally normal.
I've got a list of things so I'll attach below ...
if you follow half of that then you'll improve your battery massively.
The first thing I'd change is QHD you honestly do not need it, even 720p would look adequate on a 6 inch screen, my nebula mars 2 pro is 720 and even at 120 inches looks like HD, so being able to see the difference between 1080p and 4K is indistinguishable.
Here's the tips.
Change 5G to 4G
Remove Facebook use web based
Remove Facebook messenger use web based
Remove Twitter use web based
Remove any ad based apps pay for the pro version
Turn off gestures like lift to wake
Change from QHD to FHD (No difference)
Allow auto brightness
Turn off WiFi overnight
Turn all updates to manual not auto (play store)
Remove any so you don't use
Change back up to once a month (WhatsApp)
Turn off location history (Google)
Use titanium to remove any system apps you don't need
Don't allow anonymous usage statistics for any app ever.
Don't allow tracking cookies on any website
Use adaway (root needed)
Don't open web pages in Google app (I use Samsung browser)
Don't use xposed.
If you game you will not get high SOT scores, period.
Don't bother with battery saving apps or monitoring apps.
Streamline your apps, if you don't use it, remove it.
Don't allow WiFi scanning (as in letting other apps use it when it's not on)
Never allow personalised ads.
Never allow notifications from websites
Always decline cookies unless your absolutely have to allow some tracking (common sense prevails here)
Optimise as many apps as possible unless it affects performance.
Don't allow apps to remain open in the notification area.
Change your launcher, my preferred launcher is lawn chair and this did actually burn up some battery when compared to the OnePlus launcher.
Don't use live widgets (yes they look cool, but they annihilate your battery)
Live wallpaper, again very cool, but battery burners.
Again! Don't charge overnight, make a note of your percentage then see what it is in the morning, you shouldn't be losing more than 5% really, if you've done well then it'll be reflected here, the good SOT results will follow.
Turn off live read outs of network speed, RAM usage in the status bar.
Turn off NFC unless in use.
Leave location on in quick settings.
Don't overcharge your phone, IE: overnight
Don't allow your phone to fully deplete the battery.
Whatever anyone says, this does 100% damage batteries, there is no argument here and I won't entertain anyone who says otherwise, Ive seen through real life tests what this results in, bloated, inefficient, possibly dangerous lithium batteries.
Keep your phone out the sun.
Keep it out of extreme cold.
Keep your device clean dust free.
Snapchat, Viber, house party, apps like that tends to use more battery as they don't have great dormancy periods.
Apps like speed test by Ookla tend to have location tracking, similarly they tend to turn themselves on and off when they feel like it, my advice, install test and uninstall.
Allow a couple of battery cycles between tweaking sets, to give you an idea of how much of a difference you've made.
Use BBS to see what is being used, once you've removed problems, remove BBS.
I've just written this from the top of my head so o probably missed some things, the general idea is to keep your device clean and fresh, remove files you don't need any more.
Keep an eye on apps that misbehave or aren't wanted, index your folders so they aren't a mess.
The more good things you do means the more potentially bad apps you can have on your phone, eg if you really need Facebook, you could keep it so long as you clean up other areas of your phone.
Good luck.
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Manual brightness. Keep at the minimum needed for best viewing. Keep under 50% except sometimes for vids.
As you said avoid using in direct sunlight. It kills the battery and display
Take out the trashware; no social media apps installed on the device. They are battery hogs and multiple vector security risks/holes. No.
Turn off Google Firebase.
This is normal for this device nothing to worry they are trying to give you a horrible android aosp feeling in a software what is not suited for it
dladz said:
Trust me tiktok is a massive drain. It's horrifically intrusive, yes I know it has its moments.. But it's basically spyware for China.
5-6 hours is probably totally normal.
I've got a list of things so I'll attach below ...
if you follow half of that then you'll improve your battery massively.
The first thing I'd change is QHD you honestly do not need it, even 720p would look adequate on a 6 inch screen, my nebula mars 2 pro is 720 and even at 120 inches looks like HD, so being able to see the difference between 1080p and 4K is indistinguishable.
Here's the tips.
Change 5G to 4G
Remove Facebook use web based
Remove Facebook messenger use web based
Remove Twitter use web based
Remove any ad based apps pay for the pro version
Turn off gestures like lift to wake
Change from QHD to FHD (No difference)
Allow auto brightness
Turn off WiFi overnight
Turn all updates to manual not auto (play store)
Remove any so you don't use
Change back up to once a month (WhatsApp)
Turn off location history (Google)
Use titanium to remove any system apps you don't need
Don't allow anonymous usage statistics for any app ever.
Don't allow tracking cookies on any website
Use adaway (root needed)
Don't open web pages in Google app (I use Samsung browser)
Don't use xposed.
If you game you will not get high SOT scores, period.
Don't bother with battery saving apps or monitoring apps.
Streamline your apps, if you don't use it, remove it.
Don't allow WiFi scanning (as in letting other apps use it when it's not on)
Never allow personalised ads.
Never allow notifications from websites
Always decline cookies unless your absolutely have to allow some tracking (common sense prevails here)
Optimise as many apps as possible unless it affects performance.
Don't allow apps to remain open in the notification area.
Change your launcher, my preferred launcher is lawn chair and this did actually burn up some battery when compared to the OnePlus launcher.
Don't use live widgets (yes they look cool, but they annihilate your battery)
Live wallpaper, again very cool, but battery burners.
Again! Don't charge overnight, make a note of your percentage then see what it is in the morning, you shouldn't be losing more than 5% really, if you've done well then it'll be reflected here, the good SOT results will follow.
Turn off live read outs of network speed, RAM usage in the status bar.
Turn off NFC unless in use.
Leave location on in quick settings.
Don't overcharge your phone, IE: overnight
Don't allow your phone to fully deplete the battery.
Whatever anyone says, this does 100% damage batteries, there is no argument here and I won't entertain anyone who says otherwise, Ive seen through real life tests what this results in, bloated, inefficient, possibly dangerous lithium batteries.
Keep your phone out the sun.
Keep it out of extreme cold.
Keep your device clean dust free.
Snapchat, Viber, house party, apps like that tends to use more battery as they don't have great dormancy periods.
Apps like speed test by Ookla tend to have location tracking, similarly they tend to turn themselves on and off when they feel like it, my advice, install test and uninstall.
Allow a couple of battery cycles between tweaking sets, to give you an idea of how much of a difference you've made.
Use BBS to see what is being used, once you've removed problems, remove BBS.
I've just written this from the top of my head so o probably missed some things, the general idea is to keep your device clean and fresh, remove files you don't need any more.
Keep an eye on apps that misbehave or aren't wanted, index your folders so they aren't a mess.
The more good things you do means the more potentially bad apps you can have on your phone, eg if you really need Facebook, you could keep it so long as you clean up other areas of your phone.
Good luck.
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Won't help hahah the drain in the night will be 0.80 but during the day it will use always doesn't matter what kind off apps you have 1.30 i don't use all that stuff even if you turn off the background activity then there software what they are making is totally crap turns it back on on the back ground but there is something in your system to turn on auto optimize but even that won't work great because the system can't optimize because there software is crap and plus remove system apps will lead to crashes why you even recommend this my 9 pro didn't even survive it on it when I delete Google apps it started to reboot constantly until i used msm and everything was okay but even when i did a downgrade it will when you just disable 1 Google app to reboot and end up in boot loop graag advice your giving here your sure you know OnePlus colorOS code based very oh wait I needed to say terrible advice
Hey man @HessNL , do you know what punctuation is?
Please correct your post a little bit and set dots.
It's easier to read
Thank you very much
HessNL said:
Won't help hahah the drain in the night will be 0.80 but during the day it will use always doesn't matter what kind off apps you have 1.30 i don't use all that stuff even if you turn off the background activity then there software what they are making is totally crap turns it back on on the back ground but there is something in your system to turn on auto optimize but even that won't work great because the system can't optimize because there software is crap and plus remove system apps will lead to crashes why you even recommend this my 9 pro didn't even survive it on it when I delete Google apps it started to reboot constantly until i used msm and everything was okay but even when i did a downgrade it will when you just disable 1 Google app to reboot and end up in boot loop graag advice your giving here your sure you know OnePlus colorOS code based very oh wait I needed to say terrible advice
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Not sure where to begin with this, to put it plainly; You're wrong!
Doesn't matter what apps you have? That statement couldn't be more wrong, apps like Facebook, tiktok, Twitter, Snapchat, WhatsApp, they literally do what they want and more than likely have access to what they want. It's already been proven that tiktok is logging and lifting keystrokes, don't be a fool by thinking that they wouldn't do that or that you have some special degree of control, you don't..
FYI: I lose 0-1% overnight, idle during the day doesn't change unless I'm mobile in which case signal fluctuations and location spikes affect battery accordingly.
I can't decipher the rest of your message but it sounds like an angry mess.
Good luck with your future endeavours, my guess is you'll need them.

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