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Hello everyone,
I was so pumped to get the Note 4 and I even pre ordered one. The problem is when I found that my country will get the Snapdragon version. After looking all over the web its clear that the Exynos 5433 is a winner this time and it beats the SC805 by a noticeable score in benchmarks.
Now you might say that benchmarks means nothing and it won't matter BUT the Exynos is 20nm 64bit processor. This mean it will be better when Android L comes out which will support the 64bit. Also since its coming with 20nm vs the 28nm from Snapdragon, it should run efficiently and produce less heat from gaming and heavy use.
What is your thought?
Exynos 5433-powered Samsung Galaxy Note 4 benchmarked - GSMArena.com news
samsung SM-N910F vs samsung SM-N910C - Geekbench Browser
It definitely slowed down my decision but the general consensus is that though the exynos version supports 64 bit it will be locked to 32 bit by Samsung so as not to cause an uproar with the North American Snapdragon users. However there is still an increase in performance in the Exynos version @ 32 bit compared to Snapdragon so really what it comes down to IMO is whether you mind not having LTE Speeds in NA.
Just a heads up there is a rumor floating around about the Snapdragon and Exynos having different Rear Camera Sensors so that needs some further prodding as well.
cillerbee said:
It definitely slowed down my decision but the general consensus is that though the exynos version supports 64 bit it will be locked to 32 bit by Samsung so as not to cause an uproar with the North American Snapdragon users. However there is still an increase in performance in the Exynos version @ 32 bit compared to Snapdragon so really what it comes down to IMO is whether you mind not having LTE Speeds in NA.
Just a heads up there is a rumor floating around about the Snapdragon and Exynos having different Rear Camera Sensors so that needs some further prodding as well.
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I live in Qatar and the Exynos version support LTE bands here which are 800/2600. But as you mentioned the camera is another story as well.
What about the battery ? 8 cores vs 4 cores shouldn't the SC-805 have better battery life?
I can wait until Friday the 17th and buy it from Samsung retailer or buy it now off Amazon.com which doesn't come with warranty. I don't need the warranty since I root my phone and trigger the Knox.
Yathani said:
I live in Qatar and the Exynos version support LTE bands here which are 800/2600. But as you mentioned the camera is another story as well.
What about the battery ? 8 cores vs 4 cores shouldn't the SC-805 have better battery life?
I can wait until Friday the 17th and buy it from Samsung retailer or buy it now off Amazon.com which doesn't come with warranty. I don't need the warranty since I root my phone and trigger the Knox.
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Exynos has big.LITTLE, you should read about it
cillerbee said:
It definitely slowed down my decision but the general consensus is that though the exynos version supports 64 bit it will be locked to 32 bit by Samsung so as not to cause an uproar with the North American Snapdragon users. However there is still an increase in performance in the Exynos version @ 32 bit compared to Snapdragon so really what it comes down to IMO is whether you mind not having LTE Speeds in NA.
Just a heads up there is a rumor floating around about the Snapdragon and Exynos having different Rear Camera Sensors so that needs some further prodding as well.
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Lodix said:
Exynos has big.LITTLE, you should read about it
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what do you mean by big, little ?!
No, i would be happy with either of the two. I would prefer Exynos maybe, because i am using Exynos Tab S 8.4 and all my previous Galaxy phones were Snapdragons. BUT difference is not that big and i am sure that both work the same.
Today I saw it in my carrier's site and for first time they will sell Exynos model.. All Notes before were Snapdragon in Bulgaria.. And I was sceptical about it.. Then I read here what's better, and most people say Exynos is better and the camera is with better sensor.. Hope they are right.
Yathani said:
what do you mean by big, little ?!
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The Octacore version has 2 different clusters, one with 4 cores Cortex A53 which are very efficency and the other has 4 cores Cortex A57 which are very powerfull but use a lot of power, so depending on the load in the CPU it will use a combination of them to be the most balance as possible.
Lodix said:
The Octacore version has 2 different clusters, one with 4 cores Cortex A53 which are very efficency and the other has 4 cores Cortex A57 which are very powerfull but use a lot of power, so depending on the load in the CPU it will use a combination of them to be the most balance as possible.
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I see now. I thought all of the 8 cores work at the sametime.
Thanks
Yathani said:
I live in Qatar and the Exynos version support LTE bands here which are 800/2600. But as you mentioned the camera is another story as well.
What about the battery ? 8 cores vs 4 cores shouldn't the SC-805 have better battery life?
I can wait until Friday the 17th and buy it from Samsung retailer or buy it now off Amazon.com which doesn't come with warranty. I don't need the warranty since I root my phone and trigger the Knox.
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Exynos and LTE 800 are you sure? I've been searching the web to find any information about a Note 4 Exynos that has 4G LTE 800 Mhz and I can't find anything!
How are you so sure your model supports it? And what is the model number do you know?
Yathani said:
what do you mean by big, little ?!
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big.LITTLE: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4991/...alcore-more-power-efficient-highend-devices/2
Apple supposedly uses it with their current SoC's.
roryh86 said:
Exynos and LTE 800 are you sure? I've been searching the web to find any information about a Note 4 Exynos that has 4G LTE 800 Mhz and I can't find anything!
How are you so sure your model supports it? And what is the model number do you know?
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I think he meant 1800?
Would be very interesting to find an Exynos with 800+2600 Bands.
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Yathani said:
I live in Qatar and the Exynos version support LTE bands here which are 800/2600. But as you mentioned the camera is another story as well.
What about the battery ? 8 cores vs 4 cores shouldn't the SC-805 have better battery life?
I can wait until Friday the 17th and buy it from Samsung retailer or buy it now off Amazon.com which doesn't come with warranty. I don't need the warranty since I root my phone and trigger the Knox.
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Would you mind taking a screenshot of the back of your Note 4 box and also which Qatar network carrier you with?
Wow thanks everyone I'm glad i made this thread. I was following some Amazon review who mentioned that he received the SM-N910U version and he listed wrong Lte bands that support it. Which he edited just now.
Also this website
http://www.atgsm.com/mobile/Product.aspx?id=2948
Which doesnt seems to be accurate after i tried to match the info with other websites with no luck.
I was looking at the International version which is SM-N910U but it doesn't look like it support 800/2600.
I'm very sorry guys for confusing you all.
Regards
Yathani
I take Exynos this time...and i am very happy with it...!!!!
jpbl1976 said:
big.LITTLE: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4991/...alcore-more-power-efficient-highend-devices/2
Apple supposedly uses it with their current SoC's.
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Apple doesn't use big.LITTLE.
Yathani said:
I see now. I thought all of the 8 cores work at the sametime.
Thanks
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They sometimes do.
http://www.mobileshop.eu/phablets/samsung/galaxy-note-4-sm-n910u/
Another website that say the SM-N910U comes with 800/2600 lte
Yathani said:
http://www.mobileshop.eu/phablets/samsung/galaxy-note-4-sm-n910u/
Another website that say the SM-N910U comes with 800/2600 lte
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They are wrong, if you check in website of Samsung in Hong Kong where they are selling the N910U, in the specs it miss LTE on 800.
I personally am leaning towards sd805 because of more xda support. Otherwise both models are good ( don't forget to check LTE for your region)
Lodix said:
They are wrong, if you check in website of Samsung in Hong Kong where they are selling the N910U, in the specs it miss LTE on 800.
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I only care about is 700mhz, so I bought 910U coz later on Australia will start use 700mhz for high speed network...
If someone could help me find out if its possible to pre-order or buy the s10 International (Exynos) variants from USA. Thanks
I think Bestbuy will be the best place to look.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
Here's the info about usa Pre order and trade in.
Tried to pre order from the UK site, and they wont ship to the US. Not sure which version the unlocked version will be - they dont post model numbers... following for sure.
Clove.co.uk
As above, Clove offer delivery to the U.S
kpjs4s said:
If someone could help me find out if its possible to pre-order or buy the s10 International (Exynos) variants from USA. Thanks
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Galaxy-S10-Plus/192828272845
I bought from them multiple times before, they are trustable
Thanks for the tip. Gonna pull the trigger on this. Really wanted prism green. Just need to get cracking on getting S-Pay to work on it.
thunderroid said:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Galaxy-S10-Plus/192828272845
I bought from them multiple times before, they are trustable
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I pulled the trigger on the Prism Green S10+ (G975F/DS) from them on Thursday. Looks like it is shipping out on Monday (I thought it might be last Friday) since they claimed it was in stock. I've bought a few phones from them before and they've always delivered so am hoping that they come through!
Reading on down that Ebay listing I see one thing in the specs that has me wondering.
"OS Android 9.0 (Pie); One UI
ChipsetExynos 9820 Octa (8 nm) - EMEA
Qualcomm SDM855 Snapdragon 855 (7 nm) - USA/LATAM, China"
That doesn't mean that they will ship a Snapdragon model to the US does it bacause it sure reads that way unless that's just a copy/paste of Samsung's specs.
You're reading too much into it. It's just a copy paste.
Insert_here said:
You're reading too much into it. It's just a copy paste.
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When buying crap off Ebay, I never read too much into it.
Sorry for the bit off topic question but why would you even want the Exynos version? AFAIK the 855 beats the 9820 benchmark wise. The only reason I see to get the Exynos version is its 8K video recording potential (if we can hack it to work).
CroGamer1 said:
Sorry for the bit off topic question but why would you even want the Exynos version? AFAIK the 855 beats the 9820 benchmark wise. The only reason I see to get the Exynos version is its 8K video recording potential (if we can hack it to work).
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That's not really true from what I have seen, the Exynos beats out the Snapdragon in both single core & multicore, correct me if I'm wrong......
Tel864 said:
Reading on down that Ebay listing I see one thing in the specs that has me wondering.
"OS Android 9.0 (Pie); One UI
ChipsetExynos 9820 Octa (8 nm) - EMEA
Qualcomm SDM855 Snapdragon 855 (7 nm) - USA/LATAM, China"
That doesn't mean that they will ship a Snapdragon model to the US does it bacause it sure reads that way unless that's just a copy/paste of Samsung's specs.
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Its the dual-sim version and only Exynos have dual SIM versions
Duncan1982 said:
That's not really true from what I have seen, the Exynos beats out the Snapdragon in both single core & multicore, correct me if I'm wrong......
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Here you go: https://www.bgr.in/news/samsung-gal...nchmark-scores-revealed-march-8-india-launch/
CroGamer1 said:
Sorry for the bit off topic question but why would you even want the Exynos version? AFAIK the 855 beats the 9820 benchmark wise. The only reason I see to get the Exynos version is its 8K video recording potential (if we can hack it to work).
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If Samsung's history with the past several S models remains the same, the Exynos version will have a fully unlocked bootloader, while the USA 855 models will be fully locked down.
hella356 said:
If Samsung's history with the past several S models remains the same, the Exynos version will have a fully unlocked bootloader, while the USA 855 models will be fully locked down.
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You have a point there, but there is a possibility of network incompatibilities with US carriers. I heard that some T-Mobile bands are unsupported.
CroGamer1 said:
You have a point there, but there is a possibility of network incompatibilities with US carriers. I heard that some T-Mobile bands are unsupported.
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True, band 71 & carrier aggragation & some calling features & warranty if unlocked...
CroGamer1 said:
You have a point there, but there is a possibility of network incompatibilities with US carriers. I heard that some T-Mobile bands are unsupported.
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I can't speak to the S10 models, but I have both a T-Mobile (Qualcomm) and international (Exyonos) S7. I've never seen a difference in connectivity or download speeds between the two of them. I'm guessing the situation will be similar with the S10, but only time will tell. The reality for me is that the current speed and quality of connection I get is terrific, and I'd assume that either S10 version will at least equal and probably better what I'm getting now. Our needs all vary, of course, but I'll sacrifice some download speed (if that even ends up being the case) for an unlocked bootloader every time.
I have do a little research on Google, and it make me confuse about specifications of Asus ROG phone 2 Tencent version.
Please anyone makes a clarification about the Tencent version has HDR10 or not? What else Tencent version is reduced from ww version?
Thanks.
tuannghia1985 said:
I have do a little research on Google, and it make me confuse about specifications of Asus ROG phone 2 Tencent version.
Please anyone makes a clarification about the Tencent version has HDR10 or not? What else Tencent version is reduced from ww version?
Thanks.
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i have the tencent version and yes it has HDR
who cares if its 10 or not
Tout are wrong my friend , i bought the Tencent ROG phone 2 . Only 16m or couleurs and ont 1billion . Thé différence is si cruel : i watched the same Netflix vidéo on the Xiaomi mi9t pro HDR10 or my wife,Side to side site with the ROG2 Tencent and the lack of Colors is obvius. Dont buy the Tencent version thé screen is ont the same Than the global version.masterbab
Masterbab said:
Tout are wrong my friend , i bought the Tencent ROG phone 2 . Only 16m or couleurs and ont 1billion . Thé différence is si cruel : i watched the same Netflix vidéo on the Xiaomi mi9t pro HDR10 or my wife,Side to side site with the ROG2 Tencent and the lack of Colors is obvius. Dont buy the Tencent version thé screen is ont the same Than the global version.masterbab
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bla bla bla at least learn english before u post what language is this
? lolol
Rasalghoulll said:
bla bla bla at least learn english before u post what language is this
? lolol
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it's code language i guess but one can still understand what he's trying to say.
good information
There shouldn't be a difference in terms of HDR capability. If you should find hints that that's not true , feel free to share them.
The only differences between tencent and WW should ly in networking capabilities. The tencent version supports less LTE bands (might be a concern in rural areas) and a lower max. LTE speed (I don't know who cares about that, but I don't get gigabit LTE anyway, nor do I want to pay for it). Moreover it doesn't support 4x4 MUMIMO and WLAN ad. All in all it's not a big deal.
Hey everyone, I have a US Unlocked S21 Ultra with a Snapdragon 888 but I live in Turkey and I have a Turkish SIM Card inside it. I still didn't get the OneUI 4 update, why?
Thanks.
cfranko said:
Hey everyone, I have a US Unlocked S21 Ultra with a Snapdragon 888 but I live in Turkey and I have a Turkish SIM Card inside it. I still didn't get the OneUI 4 update, why?
Thanks.
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Probably because you have an unlocked phone
cfranko said:
Hey everyone, I have a US Unlocked S21 Ultra with a Snapdragon 888 but I live in Turkey and I have a Turkish SIM Card inside it. I still didn't get the OneUI 4 update, why?
Thanks.
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Your fortunate, Android 12, One UI 4.0 Is littered with bugs. Stick with Android 11 One UI 3.1. It's much better suited for Android 11.
cfranko said:
Hey everyone, I have a US Unlocked S21 Ultra with a Snapdragon 888 but I live in Turkey and I have a Turkish SIM Card inside it. I still didn't get the OneUI 4 update, why?
Thanks.
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Wait for android 13, 12 is an abomination.
cfranko said:
Hey everyone, I have a US Unlocked S21 Ultra with a Snapdragon 888 but I live in Turkey and I have a Turkish SIM Card inside it. I still didn't get the OneUI 4 update, why?
Thanks.
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Coz God loves you. You're not missing much. Enjoy the better stability and battery life of A11. A12 is a potato.
Expecting a fast update...
S21 Ultra 5G supports 5G from the beginning, independent of software updates
Reaper1337 said:
S21 Ultra 5G supports 5G from the beginning, independent of software updates
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Check this
You can use Airtel 5G as of now as well, but for 5G Plus need OTA, I'm using Airtel 5G on my S21U SM-G9980 Where ever m getting 5G signals in Mumbai.
deeplyyoung said:
You can use Airtel 5G as of now as well, but for 5G Plus need OTA, I'm using Airtel 5G on my S21U SM-G9980 Where ever m getting 5G signals in Mumbai.
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SM-G9980 is Hong-kong version.SM-G998B(INU) is Indian version.Maybe you are using a imported device...correct me if I am wrong.
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SM-G9980 is Hong-kong version.SM-G998B(INU) is Indian version.Maybe you are using a imported device...correct me if I am wrong.
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Agreed I'm using imported device and getting same screen like you shared with Airtel, but still used Airtel 5G and to use Airtel 5G plus we need OTA.
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Agreed I'm using imported device and getting same screen like you shared with Airtel, but still used Airtel 5G and to use Airtel 5G plus we need OTA.
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Patience is key although pestering on Samsung members might help
FWIW, 5G is all but gimmicky. I had 5g enabled for a few days and then came to realize what's the use of having 5g to get emails and whatsapp messages. 5G makes sense if you download a lot of stuff/ if you watch 8k videos on youtube or you'd like to see crazy download speeds in the speed test app... I hit 1200mbps download once on the app... Anything else, 5g is only going to drain your battery and trust me you will revert to 4g once the vanity wears off.
amirage said:
Patience is key although pestering on Samsung members might help
FWIW, 5G is all but gimmicky. I had 5g enabled for a few days and then came to realize what's the use of having 5g to get emails and whatsapp messages. 5G makes sense if you download a lot of stuff/ if you watch 8k videos on youtube or you'd like to see crazy download speeds in the speed test app... I hit 1200mbps download once on the app... Anything else, 5g is only going to drain your battery and trust me you will revert to 4g once the vanity wears off.
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Agreed, it's not only drain battery fast but it will consume the data like hell, for sure after a while I'll also going to switch back-forth to 4G-5G
I guess they will have to update the modem config. so maybe soon. This is similar to my country, it take quite a while for samsung to enable N28 SA band and 5G CA despite that the phone hardware is capable of N28 SA (but actually 5G CA is a surprise for me because I don't think that the hardware will be capable of)