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No need to repeat the plethora of good things about the kaiser.......BUT
Here is some issues that -in my opinion- need to be fixed (feel free to add your own)
1. when you select "when device is off, lock all the buttons except power button" it doesnt disable the keyboard slide from activating/turning on the device (usually in the most inappropriate moments) like when in your pocket
2. this issue is universal among all PPC devices, and its very annoying ( oddly enough no one else seems to think so). THE TOUCH SCREEN SHOULD NOT BE ACTIVATED WHEN THE PHONE RINGS OR FROM ANY OTHER KIND OF NOTIFICATIONS!!!!!!!
Thats why we have hard buttons! Picture this scenario if you will.
When the phone rings the screen shows the caller (the touch screen is not activated) if you want to take the call/or respond to a notification you can use the "phone/green" button to take the call (touch screen is still deactivated), if you need to used the touch screen you can then press the power button to activate it......this way you are not using the touch screen with your ear or in your pocket if a call or a notification goes unanswered
BTW there is a big issue that cant be solved.I'm only posting it in case HTC is reading this THIS PHONE WAS DESIGNED FOR LEFT HANDED PEOPLE!!!!!!
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why do you think that it "was designed for left handed people" ?
Hi, I just go mine yesterday but I can't really understand why do you think it was designed for left handed people ?
hanza said:
Hi, I just go mine yesterday but I can't really understand why do you think it was designed for left handed people ?
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Scroll wheel and OK button are on the left But I find it convenient because this configuration combines nicely with the right finger for seamless navigation on the device
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Scroll wheel and OK button are on the left But I find it convenient because this configuration combines nicely with the right finger for seamless navigation on the device
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Sorry, I'm slow. If the scroll wheel and OK buttons are on the left, and I hold the phone in my left hand (because I'm right handed and I want the stylus in my right hand) then I would use my left thumb to access the scroll wheel and OK buttons, which seems perfectly intuitive. I must be missing something.....
well nunmber 1 you might have a point it does not realy bother me tho as i always keep my ppc in a case not my pocket so have never had the keyboard open on me.
Number 2 is a feature not a promblem. personaly I love that it comes on and lights up when there is a incoming call. Esp when im in a nosiey room ect and i would not be able to hear the ringer anyways.
number 3 well I just think your way off base here. Im right handed and I always felt the old wizard/tytn where the ones that where backasswards. But then again this is coming from someone in his mid 20's who grew up with game controlers with the main movement keys on the left so it just feels right to have the kaiser setup that way also. And being able to use the stylus in my right hand while useing the main control in left feels correct.
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well nunmber 1 you might have a point it does not realy bother me tho as i always keep my ppc in a case not my pocket so have never had the keyboard open on me.
Number 2 is a feature not a promblem. personaly I love that it comes on and lights up when there is a incoming call. Esp when im in a nosiey room ect and i would not be able to hear the ringer anyways.
number 3 well I just think your way off base here. Im right handed and I always felt the old wizard/tytn where the ones that where backasswards. But then again this is coming from someone in his mid 20's who grew up with game controlers with the main movement keys on the left so it just feels right to have the kaiser setup that way also. And being able to use the stylus in my right hand while useing the main control in left feels correct.
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Ok, the keyboard slide is causing a problem for me (it turned on twice in my pocket as I got on my motorcycle) Ive only had it for two days
(i guess baggy pants could solve that...but its still a flaw)
On number 2, I think you misunderstood! I'm not suggesting that the SCREEN shouldn't turn on, but I insist that the TOUCHSCREEN (the touch function) is useless and annoying if it comes on automatically when the phone rings or when a text message comes in.
In the past I tried to use "TPEnable" and "TPDisable" in order to shut off the touch function, and when I had the HTC Wizard I would just reach on top and hit the power button after I answered the call (so that the screen wasnt on while I had the phone in my ear) but now, with the relocation of the power button on the Kaiser its harder to do
As far as the "lefthanded" issue is concerned, the idea is for WM6 to be used with ONE HAND, so the "holding the stylus with my right hand argument" that many people have suggested would not be popular with the WM6 folks, since a big part of advertising their new OS was its "ONE-HANDED OPERATION"
I agree though, that if we look beyond the "one handed use", the interface is intuitive and easier to use with two hands
Well....no one can do anything about the hardware at this point but I hope someone can shed some light on the touchscreen issue
Thanks
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Sorry, I'm slow. If the scroll wheel and OK buttons are on the left, and I hold the phone in my left hand (because I'm right handed and I want the stylus in my right hand) then I would use my left thumb to access the scroll wheel and OK buttons, which seems perfectly intuitive. I must be missing something.....
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nahhh !!
Picture the keyboard slided out already ... that's what the OP meant by -->> LEFT HANDED
I think it's only 1/2 crippled ... because at the HTC home today, you have the option to rotate the screen at 90 >> L << degree angle ... though making it more then "right-hand-do-able" in landscape games and the buttons are at my right thumb --->>>( keyboard CLOSED by the way )
it's only when the keyboard are slided out that it becomes "left handed" ...works for some due to right hand stylus
MY GRIPE is with the "VIDEO CONFERENCING" camera !!
see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1506877&postcount=1
gotta be a fix for it "SOON" down the road ??
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..I'm only posting it in case HTC is reading this THIS PHONE WAS DESIGNED FOR LEFT HANDED PEOPLE!!!!!!
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I'm throwing in the FRONT camera issue !! haha ha
Hey
Just got my brand new NC and for some reason the top part of the sceen just won't easily accept input.
It took me almost 100 tries to activate the slider in setcpu.
Any ideas. ?
Thanks Pavlos
You can try this:
http://nookdevs.com/Recalibrate_the_NookColor_touch_screen
Did this work?
Yep tried that to no success.
Anything else?
Also just noticed in Market that I cannot see any payied apps.
I too have had a lot of trouble with the top edge of the touchscreen, luckily I don't use it too much so it doesn't bother me.
All 4 corners of the screen are very unresponsive for me.
For example, on the new Market, I can pretty much NEVER hit the search button in the top right corner of the screen. I have grown accustomed to pressing Menu then Search instead of using that on-screen button.
Is this not how everyone's NC is?
Mine is not as responsive, but I do not have that bad of a problem with it.
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All 4 corners of the screen are very unresponsive for me.
For example, on the new Market, I can pretty much NEVER hit the search button in the top right corner of the screen. I have grown accustomed to pressing Menu then Search instead of using that on-screen button.
Is this not how everyone's NC is?
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same here....
You suggest thats unfixable....
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For example, on the new Market, I can pretty much NEVER hit the search button in the top right corner of the screen
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in my case the newer market search button works a lot better than the previous one. still, far from great
Ive had the same exact issue. And can be replicated if you turn the device upside down, all 4 corners have to be touched multiple times in-order for it to register.
best way to test is in portrait mode and trying to hit the search button, tap once a second, unresponsive.....4 times in a sec and it will highlight once.
download the lcddensity app in the market place and change it to 180 that worked for me
Not exactly sure how changing the lcd density would fix this....downloaded anyway...applied...still doesn't work
What is funny though is that TouchTest the screen is insanely responsive on all areas on the screen from edges to multitouch. So im not entirely sure what the deal is.
Sometime I have to apply a little pressure to the back of the nook to get those parts of the screen to work. Pressing the bezel a little also helps. The larger density will make buttons easier to press because they are bigger. Small buttons/icons at the corners/edges of a screen are a pain. I bumped mine up to 240. Nice big juicy buttons.
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I have the same here. Corners not responsive.
Not a big issue for me.
I also have the screen protector on.
Corners here also. Irritates me every time I try to search market.
Both NC I have used have the exact same sensitivity issue. It may just be part of the stock NC Kernel that is causing it for some odd reason. It is not completely impossible to work with but it is a bit of a hassle. It is really apparent in the Astro app manager/backup. When you go to check an app to uninstall, it takes like 20 taps to try and check the box to uninstall an app. Odd how it gives me trouble there but in other apps it has no problem whatsoever. Software based issue it feels.
The response from edges of screen is my biggest irritant when using the NC. It did get a LITTLE better for me when I did the recalibration linked to in 2nd post with my NC laying flat on a table with the lcd facing down.
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All 4 corners of the screen are very unresponsive for me.
For example, on the new Market, I can pretty much NEVER hit the search button in the top right corner of the screen. I have grown accustomed to pressing Menu then Search instead of using that on-screen button.
Is this not how everyone's NC is?
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I thought that's just how it was.
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I thought that's just how it was.
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HAHAHAHAH me too!!! I just figured maybe soft keys rendered the actual market search button unusable or something. Wow....well, hopefully it won't start to annoy me now that I know it's supposed to work
My Note seems unable (or unwilling) to detect touchscreen contact within a relatively small margin of each edge.
Using the 'Pointer location' option in Developer Options, I can see that no matter where along the edge I put my finger, it seems to clamp it to 20px away from the edge. Taking the left edge, for an example, I can see the line tracking my finger up until I hit the margin, and then it will go no further left. It is still detecting the press, though, moving my finger up and down will result in a perfectly straight line being drawn parallel to the edge of the screen.
I'm using PA3 (RC3). Either the problem doesn't exist or I just didn't notice on stock. I only became aware of it when attempting to mess around with the new 'Pie' thing in PA, and realising that it's somewhat difficult for PA to detect the gesture when the edge of the screen isn't registering the touch!
I'd appreciate it if anyone could quickly check whether their Note has the same issue, or if anyone is aware of a way of expanding the area on which touches will be registered.
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My Note seems unable (or unwilling) to detect touchscreen contact within a relatively small margin of each edge.
Using the 'Pointer location' option in Developer Options, I can see that no matter where along the edge I put my finger, it seems to clamp it to 20px away from the edge. Taking the left edge, for an example, I can see the line tracking my finger up until I hit the margin, and then it will go no further left. It is still detecting the press, though, moving my finger up and down will result in a perfectly straight line being drawn parallel to the edge of the screen.
I'm using PA3 (RC3). Either the problem doesn't exist or I just didn't notice on stock. I only became aware of it when attempting to mess around with the new 'Pie' thing in PA, and realising that it's somewhat difficult for PA to detect the gesture when the edge of the screen isn't registering the touch!
I'd appreciate it if anyone could quickly check whether their Note has the same issue, or if anyone is aware of a way of expanding the area on which touches will be registered.
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try the touch screen benchmark app found on the play store to know if you have any problem with the touch screen
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try the touch screen benchmark app found on the play store to know if you have any problem with the touch screen
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I wasn't sure to which app you were referring, but I found one that was able to fairly clearly show the issue. I took a screenshot and attached it to this post.
Each of those lines was drawn from or to the edge of the screen. You can see they all stop significantly before the boundary. The app is ScreenTouchTest, if someone would mind repeating the experiment and seeing what results they get!
Same thing happens with me. However, when using the S-Pen, the boundary gets to the right, ie the screen area increases. Here are two screen shots, one with finger and the other with S-Pen.
P.S: sorry for the big pictures...
Dial *#0*# and do a screen test..
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Hi, I have a problem with my sony z3 compact, the notification dropdown dropsdown often with a very light tap.
It's so sensitive that the notification bar drops often by itself by tapping apps buttons which are at the top of the screen (back in gmail, whatsapp etc.)
Try it for yourself by tapping lightly at the base of the "o" on the sony logo.
is this a hardware fault with my unit or does your z3 compact do the same?
Luca
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Hi, I have a problem with my sony z3 compact, the notification dropdown dropsdown often with a very light tap.
It's so sensitive that the notification bar drops often by itself by tapping apps buttons which are at the top of the screen (back in gmail, whatsapp etc.)
Try it for yourself by tapping lightly at the base of the "o" on the sony logo.
is this a hardware fault with my unit or does your z3 compact do the same?
Luca
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I think it's meant to behave that way.
Do you sometimes have the problem where home screens, pictures, etc bounce back unintended when you swipe through them?
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I think it's meant to behave that way.
Do you sometimes have the problem where home screens, pictures, etc bounce back unintended when you swipe through them?
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I made a video illustrating the issue:
http://youtu.be/YOXADb5NgPI
I suppose it is a software choice rather than a hardware one, however my samsung S4 and my old experia ray don't behave this way. You must slide the finger vertically over a portion of the screen to enable the notification dropdown, tapping would not automatically drop down the full notification screen. To me this sounds like a problem because it makes it hard to click buttons at the top of the screen most as of the time the damned notification menu drops down covering the whole screen.
I searched for an option under settings to change the notification settings but either I can't find it or there isn't anything to change it from tap to slide.
Regarding your question I'm not sure, I don't think so. The only issue I noticed (aside from the notification dropdown activated by tap (really annoying) is the camera:
If you set a lock option and unlock the phone by using the camera icon, and then you change the camera mode the phone locks itself again. Basically the 'unlock using the camera icon' let's you take pictures with the selected camera mode without unlocking the phone, but you still have to unlock the phone to use any other phone feature.
I suppose it is a software choice rather than a hardware one, however my samsung S4 and my old experia ray don't behave this way. You must slide the finger vertically over a portion of the screen to enable the notification dropdown, tapping would not automatically drop down the full notification screen. To me this sounds like a problem because it makes it hard to click buttons at the top of the screen most as of the time the damned notification menu drops down covering the whole screen.
I searched for an option under settings to change the notification settings but either I can't find it or there isn't anything to change it from tap to slide.
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I made a video illustrating the issue:
http://youtu.be/YOXADb5NgPI
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It does that for me as well, I think it's normal for this device, maybe Sony programmed it that way.
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It does that for me as well, I think it's normal for this device, maybe Sony programmed it that way.
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Thanks for the fast reply, don't you find that the statusbar drops down accidentally too often when navigating the top portion of the screen? it's a bit annoying IMHO (or perhaps I have big hands )
I'll need to check in the play store to see whether there are apps that let you change the way the notification bar is activated
It hasn't bothered me, so far.
Though I just checked on my Xperia Z2 Tablet and it doesn't behave that way on that one. Maybe the Z3C's touch screen is just too sensitive, as a side effect of the technology that makes the glove mode possible?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B60caaAbz4M
Has this never happened to you with this phone? Mostly when using it with one hand only.
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It hasn't bothered me, so far.
Though I just checked on my Xperia Z2 Tablet and it doesn't behave that way on that one. Maybe the Z3C's touch screen is just too sensitive, as a side effect of the technology that makes the glove mode possible?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B60caaAbz4M
Has this never happened to you with this phone? Mostly when using it with one hand only.
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No it hasn't (but I need to pay more attention when using a single hand, will get back to you ). I tend to use two hands because, being the device so smooth I need to be careful and fight gravity quite a lot, I managed to almost drop it two times as it tends to slide from my hand
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No it hasn't (but I need to pay more attention when using a single hand, will get back to you ). I tend to use two hands because, being the device so smooth I need to be careful and fight gravity quite a lot, I managed to almost drop it two times as it tends to slide from my hand
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Alright. Which firmware version is yours on, by the way?
It is sensitive, although for me it took me until now to see, I guess I don't tend to touch the very top of the screen.
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It is sensitive, although for me it took me until now to see, I guess I don't tend to touch the very top of the screen.
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where do I find the firwmare version?
p.s.
Did you find a way to move apps to the sdcard? I can't seem to find an option to do so under settings apps.
Same
I have the same Problem with the sensitive notification menu... just lightliy tap anywhere close to it and it springs down and covers the whole screen. Coming from iOS where these things weren't even an issue, it's very annoying. It's currently the main reason why I want to try a different ROM.... Problem is I'm somehow unable to unlock my bootloader, and even then I'm not yet sure how to change the ROM. Damn, on iOS things were so simple... jailbreak tool, go to cydia, customise everything however I want....
varignet said:
Thanks for the fast reply, don't you find that the statusbar drops down accidentally too often when navigating the top portion of the screen? it's a bit annoying IMHO (or perhaps I have big hands )
I'll need to check in the play store to see whether there are apps that let you change the way the notification bar is activated
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Not sure if this will solve your problem, but you can check out All In One Gestures from the Play Store and activate tapping the status bar to do "nothing" by leaving it blank.
Edited: N/m, just tried it, didn't work. Still a useful app though! I'm using it for full immersive mode, so that's kind of another way to solve the status bar problem.
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Not sure if this will solve your problem, but you can check out All In One Gestures from the Play Store and activate tapping the status bar to do "nothing" by leaving it blank.
Edited: N/m, just tried it, didn't work. Still a useful app though! I'm using it for full immersive mode, so that's kind of another way to solve the status bar problem.
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I gave it a go and it didn't work either, sony must do some lowerlevel tweaking to the notification bar.
I hope they fix it soon
Another sony dumb crap that I hate. It's so damn sensitive that it pulls down every time I use the phone to my ear. Sometime some quick settings activated and I had no idea wtf happened.
Dumb fuc.k sony is so annoying. Even my Z3C is rooted, I haven't found a way to disable this crap. Full of crapwares, cheap crappy glass and display, now this. Seriously all sony engineers and designers should just eat shi.t and die.
I thought I was alone in this. I've become fed up in call pull the phone away from my ear and it activates the pull down. Sigh.
Hello, really new to this thread. My Mi 8 is about 2 weeks old. So recently I noticed that the home button gesture doesn't work sometimes. I have to repeatedly swipe up from the bottom of the screen for it to work...also when pressing something close to the status bar seems to trigger the status bar opening animation. This happens only every now and then then. I'm on stock global rom everything locked nothing tinkered with at all. Anyone experiencing the same thing?
Mike20017 said:
Hello, really new to this thread. My Mi 8 is about 2 weeks old. So recently I noticed that the home button gesture doesn't work sometimes. I have to repeatedly swipe up from the bottom of the screen for it to work...also when pressing something close to the status bar seems to trigger the status bar opening animation. This happens only every now and then then. I'm on stock global rom everything locked nothing tinkered with at all. Anyone experiencing the same thing?
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what mi8have Home button？
PUBGKING12 said:
what mi8have Home button？
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I'm talking about the home screen gesture.
Try to test if your screen has some issues, I don't experience any problem
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I'm talking about the home screen gesture.
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You mean using the gesture settings, when you swipe from the bottom it will not go home (takes multiple tries)? If so, do you have a case or screen protector installed? The way you're supposed to swipe is pretty much from outside of the actual display, upwards, so if there is something interfering with this, or you're swiping from in the display, it may not work.
If not, then try using a touch screen test app such as Touch Screen Test from Google Play (developed by Siriuth). Touch the bottom area multiple times (swipe down, left, right, but not up as this may send you to the home screen of course). Swipe slowly to see the path properly. Does it skip at any section? If it does, touch in that area may be damaged. If this phone was purchased used or from a 3rd party seller, this may be why it is damaged.
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You mean using the gesture settings, when you swipe from the bottom it will not go home (takes multiple tries)? If so, do you have a case or screen protector installed? The way you're supposed to swipe is pretty much from outside of the actual display, upwards, so if there is something interfering with this, or you're swiping from in the display, it may not work.
If not, then try using a touch screen test app such as Touch Screen Test from Google Play (developed by Siriuth). Touch the bottom area multiple times (swipe down, left, right, but not up as this may send you to the home screen of course). Swipe slowly to see the path properly. Does it skip at any section? If it does, touch in that area may be damaged. If this phone was purchased used or from a 3rd party seller, this may be why it is damaged.
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Just tried it... Everything seems fine. But still sometimes it tends to require several tries for the gesture to actually register. I'm on global 10.2.3.0, could be a miui bug since this version is not the best. Also has battery drain problems. Could be fixed in the next update.
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I'm talking about the home screen gesture.
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Mike20017 said:
Just tried it... Everything seems fine. But still sometimes it tends to require several tries for the gesture to actually register. I'm on global 10.2.3.0, could be a miui bug since this version is not the best. Also has battery drain problems. Could be fixed in the next update.
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That's very odd. Does the oleophobic coating in that area feel worn or anything? Does the friction feel high? Mine never fails, not even to open the multitasker. Do you have "Double Check for Gestures" enabled? Try turning this off perhaps? The battery drain I definitely agree. I went from 7 hrs of SOT to less than 5.
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I'm talking about the home screen gesture.
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ok