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Hello all,
I finally bought a Kaiser, after thinking a long time about the fact it is not VGA ...
But I am very disapointed by the keyboard. I have very small fingers, but each time I press a key, I have the feeling that I touch the others close to it, and I don't really know if I touched the good one unless I see it on the screen . It is a really bad feeling when I want to type fast.
Also the feeling I have when pressing the keys is bad : sometimes keys seems hard to press, sometimes there is a soft feeling ...
This is really disapointing because the keyboard was for me the main interest of this device. I was the owner of a good old QTEK 9000, and the keyboard of the Kaiser is FAR FAR FAR away from the one of the universal.
Another bad point for the Kaiser : the power on button should stick a little more, or being in another place. Most of the time, when I want to press it, I also push the screen (my finger recover the button but not only !). So everytime I have to look at my Kaiser to press the power on button and to take extreme attention to push the button without pushing the screen ...
What was your feelings when you first discovered the Kaiser keyboard ?
I thought it beat the pants off of my Ipaq 6515. I'm very happy with it.
It doesnt lend itself to typing with fingers... only with thumbs.
As with all qwerty HTC devices, one or two keys were a bit sticky when new - they have settled down now.
unwired4 said:
It doesnt lend itself to typing with fingers... only with thumbs.
As with all qwerty HTC devices, one or two keys were a bit sticky when new - they have settled down now.
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o i hope ur right u give me hope yay .... the heremes keyboard was just fine though why did they have to change it.
dizzy33 said:
Hello all,
Another bad point for the Kaiser : the power on button should stick a little more, or being in another place. Most of the time, when I want to press it, I also push the screen (my finger recover the button but not only !). So everytime I have to look at my Kaiser to press the power on button and to take extreme attention to push the button without pushing the screen ...
What was your feelings when you first discovered the Kaiser keyboard ?
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As with all things, I'm betting you eventually get used to it and it ends up being less of a problem. Give it some time dude.
dizzy23, actually you've got a real point here.
I've been on an HTC Hermes (badged as Orange SPV M3100 in UK) and I reckon the Kaiser is a little bit of a step back in terms of tactile response.
However the "u" key on my Hermes started to pack in after a few months of texting, so I'm hoping the Kaiser will stand up to better usage
I'm also not keen on the way the Kaiser now opens. They swapped it around from the old Hermes to alledgedly make it easier for right handed people to open. I rekcon they've made a hash of this as 1) it's no easier to open than before and 2) getting to the stylus is now a pain being on the left. The ergonomics are just all wrong people!
Complaining aside, I love this new Kaiser, but you're spot on about the keyboard
Chris
ko0ky said:
As with all things, I'm betting you eventually get used to it and it ends up being less of a problem. Give it some time dude.
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Maybe you're right, I should give it some time. But time passes, and I just found a new problem with this keyboard ! (sorry ...).
When I press the spacebar, sometimes I can feel a kind of "double click", just like if I had press it twice (or pressing it along with another key).
I did some tests and could see that this does not happen if I press on the top of the space bar. But if I press on the bottom of it, then I can ear and feel this "double click".
Again, a very bad feeling wich does slow me when I try to type text because everytime I press the space bar I have to verify I only did it once !!!
Finally I found out where does this "double click" come from : in fact, if I press on the right side of the key, I can feel just a single click. Same thing on the left side. But If I put my finger on the middle of it, then I can feel the "double click". So I guess that in fact the space bar's got two switches : one on each side of the bar.
Again for this, I hope time will help me to deal with it !
I agree that the keyboard is a bit flakey. The Hermes keyboard had a much better feel. I find myself accidently typing the same letter several times. And when I first saw it, I thought the silver numeric keys were a good idea, but in practice find it distracting when I want to type the letters. It also visually breaks up the keyboard making L, O and P harder to type.
Oh well, hopefully I'll get used to it.
Sorry folks but i definetely cannot agree with you. Of course the space bar consists of 2 buttons, i realized it the first time i press i. Now i press it only on one side and have no problem at all, even no time to get used to it. The buttons have a VERY good press, are not too stiff and not too soft, just perfect. Don't understand how anyone can prefer the plastic-like Hermes-Keyboard... urgh. The one from the Kaiser feels alot better!
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Sorry folks but i definetely cannot agree with you. Of course the space bar consists of 2 buttons, i realized it the first time i press i. Now i press it only on one side and have no problem at all, even no time to get used to it. The buttons have a VERY good press, are not too stiff and not too soft, just perfect. Don't understand how anyone can prefer the plastic-like Hermes-Keyboard... urgh. The one from the Kaiser feels alot better!
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Just try a HTC Universal keyboard, and you will understand ! And here, I am not talking about the size of the keys wich are bigger of course on the Universal and so more comfortable. I can't complain about the Kaiser keyboard size. I am just talking about the feeling you get when you press a key.
From my point of view, the Kaiser's keyboard is really not good for writing long texts very fast. I am a blackberry user, and writing a lot of emails everyday, unfortunatly I will have to go back to my blackberry device now Too bad I already sold my Universal ...
I am also often pressing twice the same key on the Kaiser, and I am not confident in the fact that time will help me in that, as many other users report this problem now ...
I thought it was just me! I upgraded from an 8525. The 8525 keyboard is so much nicer (to me) than the Tilt. Every key has a similar tactile response. The Tilt keyboard ranges from clicky to mushy. I often find myself subconsciously hitting a key twice because I didn't feel a response from the key. I even went back to the store and tried a couple others and they're all the same.
Hopefully, I can get used to it and it won't bother me so much. (It's the only thing about the Tilt that I don't like!)
dizzy33 said:
Hello all,
I finally bought a Kaiser, after thinking a long time about the fact it is not VGA ...
But I am very disapointed by the keyboard. I have very small fingers, but each time I press a key, I have the feeling that I touch the others close to it, and I don't really know if I touched the good one unless I see it on the screen . It is a really bad feeling when I want to type fast.
Also the feeling I have when pressing the keys is bad : sometimes keys seems hard to press, sometimes there is a soft feeling ...
This is really disapointing because the keyboard was for me the main interest of this device. I was the owner of a good old QTEK 9000, and the keyboard of the Kaiser is FAR FAR FAR away from the one of the universal.
Another bad point for the Kaiser : the power on button should stick a little more, or being in another place. Most of the time, when I want to press it, I also push the screen (my finger recover the button but not only !). So everytime I have to look at my Kaiser to press the power on button and to take extreme attention to push the button without pushing the screen ...
What was your feelings when you first discovered the Kaiser keyboard ?
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This are things you could discover if you try before you buy.
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This are things you could discover if you try before you buy.
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The problem is that in a store, with the seller close to you, you can't try the device keyboard enough time to see that the problems will remain there even after hours of practice !
At the very first touch, the keyboard seems quite good.
Keyboard on 8525 was much more accurate for me. Feedback was much better.
Thought I would add a little input as a new user. I had every complaint you did but I can honestly say after a week of use I am gettting as fast at typing as I was with my Curve. I definitely gets better.
Only complaint about Tilt right now is what were they thinking when they put the stylus on the bottom of the device. It works great when in the upright position for a righty but when you switch to landscape you have to remove with your left hand and move it to your right. If it was on the same side but on the top of the device it would be ideal.
Other than that this device is amazing!
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What was your feelings when you first discovered the Kaiser keyboard ?
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I feel that the keyboard is one of just a few things that is better than on the Hermes :-( The other good things are proper A2DP support without skipping and the suede-type case. Everything else have been disappointing.
I've just upgraded from the Wizard, in my opinion the button spacing was much better on that than with the Kaiser. I'm sure there were design constraints but there is quite bit of unused space to the left and right which could perhaps have been used to make it a bit more friendly.
Minor quibbles aside, with all these devices, you need to have patience for a few days to get used to them.
I got a Tilt for AT&T's latest batch, and my first feeling was that the keyboard was better than on my Hermes/8525.
I just pulled it out to test again. There is no difference in the tactile response of the keys on mine. They all have the same click to them.
My only complaint is that it is hard to hit the soft keys when the screen it tilted up, but you can usually just push the button on the screen anyway.
I wonder if its possible that I got a newer hardware revision that addressed the "mushy" key problem.
Had me V3 a few hours now and am very happy with it compared to the V2, faster and easier to use. Keyboard is vastly nicer than the V2, however my space key is a little stiff, but I am sure that it will soften over the next few wks of use.
Its kind of like when you get a new laptop, you have loves and hates with them when you get a new one.
Hello!
I have came across 2 annoying problems - maybe somebody can help with them.
1) Pressing IE key + action (dpad center key) invokes screen alignment application. I'm using S2U2 and can't find a way to prevent this shortcut from working when phone is locked by S2U2. Because of that screen alignment is accidentally launched often enough to become major annoyance.
Is there any way to fix it? Like disabling screen alignment shortcut, configuring S2U2 to lock hardware keys or in the worst case fully disabling IE key ?
2) The second problem - sometimes i find my kaiser switched to landscape mode. It has happened only when i'm reaching for phone in pocket to answer a call - so it's possible i've accidentally pressed some keys or something. It happened also after i disabled autoswitching to landscape mode after sliding it open.
Of course after it has switched to landscape mode it switches back to portrait, and during this time (which can take few secs and is annoying) i cannot answer the call.
For #1 - stop pressing the IE and Action key at the same time. Pretty simple fix.
For #2 - I don't really have a good answer for you. I would have suspected you were opening the keyboard slightly when pulling it from your pocket, but that wouldn't matter if you disabled the function. So, can't say for sure... are you running 3rd party apps, different ROM, etc.?
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Hello!
I have came across 2 annoying problems - maybe somebody can help with them.
1) Pressing IE key + action (dpad center key) invokes screen alignment application. I'm using S2U2 and can't find a way to prevent this shortcut from working when phone is locked by S2U2. Because of that screen alignment is accidentally launched often enough to become major annoyance.
Is there any way to fix it? Like disabling screen alignment shortcut, configuring S2U2 to lock hardware keys or in the worst case fully disabling IE key ?
2) The second problem - sometimes i find my kaiser switched to landscape mode. It has happened only when i'm reaching for phone in pocket to answer a call - so it's possible i've accidentally pressed some keys or something. It happened also after i disabled autoswitching to landscape mode after sliding it open.
Of course after it has switched to landscape mode it switches back to portrait, and during this time (which can take few secs and is annoying) i cannot answer the call.
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What you are describing as annoying are conveniences to those of us who don't carry our phones in our pockets. No, HTC does not make double commands for every function, one to make the phone easier to use and one to disable all the " easy " functions for those who insist on carrying around a $500 phone like it was a pack of 25 cent gum.
A little preachy? Good!
Ask the other members here if this sounds familiar: "Cheap f**king phone, screen cracked first week I had it, I took it out of my pocket one day.........." My touch screen no longer works, I took it out of my pocket one day............"
50% of all the bad things that happen to people's phones around here start with. "When I took the phone out of my pocket........"
Want your phone to continue to work great? Make believe it is an expensive piece of electronics. Take f**king care of it
P.S. Ooh big step down off the soap box
denco7 said:
What you are describing as annoying are conveniences to those of us who don't carry our phones in our pockets. No, HTC does not make double commands for every function, one to make the phone easier to use and one to disable all the " easy " functions for those who insist on carrying around a $500 phone like it was a pack of 25 cent gum.
A little preachy? Good!
Ask the other members here if this sounds familiar: "Cheap f**king phone, screen cracked first week I had it, I took it out of my pocket one day.........." My touch screen no longer works, I took it out of my pocket one day............"
50% of all the bad things that happen to people's phones around here start with. "When I took the phone out of my pocket........"
Want your phone to continue to work great? Make believe it is an expensive piece of electronics. Take f**king care of it
P.S. Ooh big step down off the soap box
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*sniffs* hmm whats that smell, its the buring of you being flamed BIG TIME
denco7 said:
Ask the other members here if this sounds familiar: "Cheap f**king phone, screen cracked first week I had it, I took it out of my pocket one day.........." My touch screen no longer works, I took it out of my pocket one day............"
50% of all the bad things that happen to people's phones around here start with. "When I took the phone out of my pocket........"
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I'm not so sure, maybe some people are just careless fools.
I've had my Kaiser for a few months and a Wizard before than for 18 months. Both have been kept in my pocket pretty much constantly and have never had anything more than the slightest of scratches on the casings.
Then again, i'm not stupid enough to keep my phone in the same pocket as coins, keys or other myriad sharp things...
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I'm not so sure, maybe some people are just careless fools.
I've had my Kaiser for a few months and a Wizard before than for 18 months. Both have been kept in my pocket pretty much constantly and have never had anything more than the slightest of scratches on the casings.
Then again, i'm not stupid enough to keep my phone in the same pocket as coins, keys or other myriad sharp things...
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Where as a lot of other people unfortunately are
Well, to give you a tip about question #2 if you are going to carry it in the beltcase that came with the phone. If you are not careful pusing the phone up of the case you might just push the keyboard part and it doesn´t take much to trigger landscape mode. By now I get the phone up without this happening but it took some getting used to.
And I would not advise carrying the phone in your pants front pocket. A friend of mine cracked the screen of his brand new N95 this way, tight designer jeans pocket in this case = dead expensive phone.
denco7 said:
Want your phone to continue to work great? Make believe it is an expensive piece of electronics. Take f**king care of it
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And what should i do ? Keep it home on the shelf ? A phone is meant to use it. I've found that the screen is hard to clean because of the higher edges. What would be your solution - don't touch it ? The phone is slow when switching to landscape and back - don't use landscape mode ? If something is wrong - it's my fault for trying to use it ?
*rant off*
Actually i was not correct (blame my english) - i'm carrying it in a waist case, not pocket. And from what i've gathered - the magnetic lock could be the reason of switching to landscape mode. I've read something about magnetic locks triggering the slideout sensor.
But my collegue said he disabled autoswitching to landscape mode and was still experiencing this problem (have to doublecheck it though).
As for first case (screen align shortcut) - can't help. I often accidentally press them when taking out of case. Tried to install AEBPlus and remap some buttons, but that didn't help. It actually suprises me why HTC choosed so easily pressed button combination.
A solution would be to stop using S2U2, as the default device lock correctly locks the keypad and this shortcut dosesn't work. It would be pity though, as i came to like S2U2.
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Hi All,
Is it my phone or is it a problem with the diamond in that I find it almost impossible to use the d pad to go left and right. Up and down works a treat, but left either makes a call or goes to the home page and when I want to naiviagte right, well it mostly causes the centre dpad to click. Any ideas, send the phone back; it's almost impossible to play worms!
i have the same problem. i think it is not a manufacturing problem, it is designed as is.
i have seen somewhere in the manual, that htc recommends to use the finger nails to press the navigation buttons.
Same behaviour here. It's just bad design. Not a fault of your particular device.
Thats so Cr*p!, don't get me wrong, I love the phone, but that is bad manufacturing, I though HTC were better than that. I am disappointed that they get everything else so nice, but screw up the nav keys, they are pretty damn important. It like saying the that the "T" key on the keyboard sometimes gives you "T" but sometimes it'll give you "R".!! Anyone tries talking to HTC about it?
Oh well, I'll just roll over and take it --- again
Hi there,
just keep in mind that the navigation left/right uses the same (physical) switch as the other buttons. the function called is just determined by the position of your fingers on the capazitive touch element. So you just hav to be quite precise. pressing with the whole of your thumb can cause the problems you state. use your fingertips instead and everything will be fine.
in the beginning I had some trouble but my problem was that I pressed too close to the centre button... I have no problem pressing left or right now. The sweetspot is about the middle between the edge of teh circular button and the home/phone keys
KnOeFz said:
in the beginning I had some trouble but my problem was that I pressed too close to the centre button... I have no problem pressing left or right now. The sweetspot is about the middle between the edge of teh circular button and the home/phone keys
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I also find it helps to press a little bit lower than you might think (especially on the right button)
slow23 said:
just keep in mind that the navigation left/right uses the same (physical) switch as the other buttons. the function called is just determined by the position of your fingers on the capazitive touch element.
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Hey, wow. Thanks a lot. That's really the point.
Ever worried about pressing one of the other buttons (Home, Back, Send, End) when pressing to far outside the center. But now that I realised that there are no other buttons to accidently hit, everything works quite fine.
would be great if someone finally finds out how to remap buttons. in that case i am the first to reassign the home button with the left key and back button with right key...
Wish it would be possible to touch the wheel and get LEFT/RIGHT instead of pressing them. Would make it so much easier to use the wheel/pad buttons.
axelpix said:
Hey, wow. Thanks a lot. That's really the point.
Ever worried about pressing one of the other buttons (Home, Back, Send, End) when pressing to far outside the center. But now that I realised that there are no other buttons to accidently hit, everything works quite fine.
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The hint was also very usefull to me, thank you so much slow23, you made my day
regards,
Daniel
Remap light wheel for up down left right
Now that sounds like a wicked idea. Remap it so that when the touch sensitive circular wheel is not being used for it's whizzy ipod type wheel capability, it is instead used for touch sensitive left, right, up or down!.
Hmm, I'd donate for sure for that to happen!
funny thing about those hardware keys is that they are combined with a capacitive key, eg, try to press the home key with the back of your stylus without touching the button with your finger. it wil respond as dail key pressed.
If you try to press al the buttons at once, there is only one click at either side
Is there a spot on THE RIGHT SIDE your Xperia X1's SPACEBAR where when you press down, YOU GET TACTILE FEEDBACK, but the press is NOT registered?
Thank you for any input.
Not on mines.
yea i do...
it gets annoying now...had to press it hard now
mr_sheen said:
yea i do...
it gets annoying now...had to press it hard now
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I have to GO BEYOND pressing and feeling the tactile feedback because the press isn't registered even with the click. This is a very frustrating experience, you just can't type with "faith", even with the click, you still have to be sure the "space" appears, or you have to backspace/left to insert a spacebar. It is highly irritating.
It is also the right side, which I use because I somehow seem to use the left alphabets more than the right alphabets when typing anything, so I have more freetime with the right thumb. And it is exactly the right side that is unresponsive.
Hey yogi, good for you.
I realised there was already another thread describing similar issues.
The thing is, my X1 is in the service center's custody at the moment for repair and they said that it is normal for the keyboard to be like this. I am really wondering if I should push for a keyboard replacement.
It is sad that Xperia as a device boasting a nice keyboard having wear and tear at such a pace.
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I don't think it's wear and tear. Mine has had this problem since day one, it's just to do with where on the key the actual "button" that registers the press is, and since the key is "bendy" it wont register in every place you press it.
Strangely, as one person said, they use their right thumb more, I being left handed tend to use my left thumb much more, infact I dont use my right thumb at all when touch typing on my desktop keyboard, BUT I find that I use my right thumb a lot more for the space bar on the xperia.
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I don't think it's wear and tear. Mine has had this problem since day one, it's just to do with where on the key the actual "button" that registers the press is, and since the key is "bendy" it wont register in every place you press it.
Strangely, as one person said, they use their right thumb more, I being left handed tend to use my left thumb much more, infact I dont use my right thumb at all when touch typing on my desktop keyboard, BUT I find that I use my right thumb a lot more for the space bar on the xperia.
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right now im practicing to start hitting that spacebar with my left thumb. It feels weird though...
Whenever im typing fast, about 5 times out of 10 the spacebar will not register. Bloody annoying...
Im thinking about taking it back for a repair...do you guys think it will worth the time?
mr_sheen said:
right now im practicing to start hitting that spacebar with my left thumb. It feels weird though...
Whenever im typing fast, about 5 times out of 10 the spacebar will not register. Bloody annoying...
Im thinking about taking it back for a repair...do you guys think it will worth the time?
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My hands are pretty big and I have just noticed that because it causes me to type so slow I can infact type space just as easily with either thumb, or infact both at once.
My main concern is my thumb nails catching hte chrome at the top when i use the top row and I am just hopeful I dont "chip" it off.
Personally I don't think repair will help, it just seems to be a design flaw in the space bar, best solution might be to find if you can perform a mod on it yourself to make it more responsive, but that's if you're up for that kind of disassembly/work on such an expensive device.
okay, seems i've found the solution for the problem.
On spacebar, u've got to hit almost the right end part. If u hit it between the middle and right part, most likely it wont register.
I've had problem with the (ok) and the (.) key too. for this one you just have to press it slightly harder.
Ok.
I found also, that if you press arund 1/3 of the way along the space bar it makes a double click instead of a single one, this is the point at which it either doesn't register or it registers 2 spaces. As long as you try to avoid this section you should be ok.
gee...
Its all a bit too much for something that we put quite bit of money into hey
yes... i even get doubles or triples sometimes.. crazy keyboard imho
I have started to have this problem since last month and have reported it on another thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483644
It also started with the space bar, on the right side. I then practice in hitting the spacebar using my left thumb (instead of my right thumb) and it's OK for a while, until the problem affected spacebar on both the left and the right side.
Then it started to affect other keys as well, such as the Fn (blue) C, V, N and dot (.) keys, among others. The interesting thing is that the problem seems to be only affecting the keys on the lower part of the keyboard, and not the upper part one.
Basically similar symptoms: the key is not responsive and doesn't register the key we have pressed even though we get tactile feedback from the key. And sometimes, if we press harder, it will register double of the keys, sometimes triple. Really annoying and irritating.
Is it worth bringing the phone to the service centre? Do you think they will be able to resolve this problem, since it seems to be a design flaw to me.
Any feedback is highly appreciated.
Thanks.
indrapr said:
I have started to have this problem since last month and have reported it on another thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483644
It also started with the space bar, on the right side. I then practice in hitting the spacebar using my left thumb (instead of my right thumb) and it's OK for a while, until the problem affected spacebar on both the left and the right side.
Then it started to affect other keys as well, such as the Fn (blue) C, V, N and dot (.) keys, among others. The interesting thing is that the problem seems to be only affecting the keys on the lower part of the keyboard, and not the upper part one.
Basically similar symptoms: the key is not responsive and doesn't register the key we have pressed even though we get tactile feedback from the key. And sometimes, if we press harder, it will register double of the keys, sometimes triple. Really annoying and irritating.
Is it worth bringing the phone to the service centre? Do you think they will be able to resolve this problem, since it seems to be a design flaw to me.
Any feedback is highly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Yes, I have SAME problem. I think the reason is dust or some thing like that and any solution on this CRAP problem???
indrapr said:
I have started to have this problem since last month and have reported it on another thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483644
It also started with the space bar, on the right side. I then practice in hitting the spacebar using my left thumb (instead of my right thumb) and it's OK for a while, until the problem affected spacebar on both the left and the right side.
Then it started to affect other keys as well, such as the Fn (blue) C, V, N and dot (.) keys, among others. The interesting thing is that the problem seems to be only affecting the keys on the lower part of the keyboard, and not the upper part one.
Basically similar symptoms: the key is not responsive and doesn't register the key we have pressed even though we get tactile feedback from the key. And sometimes, if we press harder, it will register double of the keys, sometimes triple. Really annoying and irritating.
Is it worth bringing the phone to the service centre? Do you think they will be able to resolve this problem, since it seems to be a design flaw to me.
Any feedback is highly appreciated.
Thanks.
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well that is quite concerning. So it DOES gets WORSE over time
I'll try to speak with the guys down at the sony ericsson centre about this. Hopefully they have something to say
Yes, it does get worse over time. Over time, more keys will be affected by this.
mr_sheen, appreciate if you can share with us later what is the outcome of your discussion with the service centre guys about this.
Thanks.
latest update... indeed my keyboard is getting mroe crazy
Since more and more users are encountering this problem, I would foresee that this will become a common problem, and more users will start encountering this problem over time.
I would appreciate if the moderator can merge this thread with the other similar thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483644 ) and make this thread sticky until we can find satisfactory permanent solution from Sony Ericsson to this problem.
I will also try to bring my phone to the local Sony Ericsson service centre here in Singapore this coming weekend and see what they say.
i just got back from the center and they say that it was quite NORMAL. They said that it was a normal wear and tear and isn't covered on warranty. Is that so? i haven't got time to read all the warranty thing(too lazy...LOL) and im quite disappointed by this to be honest....
I live in Indonesia by the way, half the time the technician down at the Sony Centre haven't got any clue on how to fix an X1....bloody hell...
indrapr said:
Since more and more users are encountering this problem, I would foresee that this will become a common problem, and more users will start encountering this problem over time.
I would appreciate if the moderator can merge this thread with the other similar thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483644 ) and make this thread sticky until we can find satisfactory permanent solution from Sony Ericsson to this problem.
I will also try to bring my phone to the local Sony Ericsson service centre here in Singapore this coming weekend and see what they say.
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If you do post here. Heard many negative things ant Singapore sony service centres
People with huge hands may find it ok to use their fingers on the phone page to switch between phone keys and log and favourites. We the normal dudes have to use the second hand to reach the father end. This in my opinion is a major flaw. These should be given at the bottom of the screen. Also, when we have found a contact on the key pad it doesn't give any option to open the contact to view. I am using dialer one in the mean while but samsung should do something here and in contacts.
Anyone has any other idea?
I haven't got large hands and I can easily navigate my way around the screen. How are you holding your phone?
How to hold it
I just hold it the way I have held all the other phones like hero, I phone, diamond but this is the first one with which I'm not absolutely happy. I mean the phone pad software. I hold it with my right hand with the thumb on the screen but have to really shift hand and stretch to reach the to left corner etc. this also requires many more taps to do the job. I'm telling you it nerds improvement.
No help
This means every one else is happy with the control being up on the dialer. I am disappointed but will have to stick with dialer one which is not bad at all. While stock dialer will continue to haunt us with many extra taps required to do the job.