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N960U1 in the UK

Hi all,
I bought an unlocked note 9 from eBay which arrived today. I got it set up and went to begin installing a different firmware to be able to get the one UI update - only to find out it's a N960U1! I'm in the UK so was expecting/hoping for a N960F.
It's all working, calls work, I've pulled over 3GB of data today all nice and fast, texts working etc. If I was the 'average user' I wouldn't know that it's not a UK one...
My question is, am I likely to hit any road blocks? As long as the radios all work I can't imagine there being any and the play store has all the apps I use available. I'm just wondering if I'm at any advantage/disadvantage?
Thanks

spears93 said:
Hi all,
I bought an unlocked note 9 from eBay which arrived today. I got it set up and went to begin installing a different firmware to be able to get the one UI update - only to find out it's a N960U1! I'm in the UK so was expecting/hoping for a N960F.
It's all working, calls work, I've pulled over 3GB of data today all nice and fast, texts working etc. If I was the 'average user' I wouldn't know that it's not a UK one...
My question is, am I likely to hit any road blocks? As long as the radios all work I can't imagine there being any and the play store has all the apps I use available. I'm just wondering if I'm at any advantage/disadvantage?
Thanks
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I'm on the same boat (I mean, a similar situation because I'm not in the UK I'm in El Salvador). When I received my phone I started looking for the new UI, but I noticed that I had a very old android build version (I was in September security patch, I received my phone February 11) I started reading about and found out that N960U is the branded version of the note in the US. I wanted to update by Odin to one UI but I was afraid to get my phone carrier locked so after reading a lot more, I found that you can update using the right firmware for the phone (N960U) you don't lose carrier unlock and in my case after installing updates, I don't even have any bloatware.
Now, after this context history, I can tell you that the only thing that will affects is any "radio band enhance" or "carrier feature" and that's because you will not be able to install any UK carrier software to that version because N960U and N960F are different hardware, not just software.
Maybe there is another road block that is about updates, I'm on 9.0 but with January security patch, I have not received any new update. To be hones I'm not sure if there is a new one, so I need to wait to confirm that OTA updates are working for me, if not I will take the time to update by ODIN again haha so that's not something that will drive me crazy, and also related to this I think that N960U android versions are coming faster than I thought, some of my friends with N9600 are still stuck on 8.1
If you want to upgrade go to the following thread, there you will have enough information to update.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/guide-upgrade-oreo-to-pie-one-ui-t3888711

Awesome, nice one dude
I used Odin on my previous S8+ to be able to install the one UI beta and that worked fine. Though it did come with a couple of apps that were a part of that carriers firmware (three UK)
I'm aware that the F uses an exynos processor whereas the U is Snapdragon and have seen a couple of guides already. Though they use AT&T firmware and, from what I've seen, have bloatware that would literally be useless to me.
I'll have a look at the guide you linked.
I'd like to have one UI again, but can happily live with the Samsung experience UI if I had to.

spears93 said:
Awesome, nice one dude
I used Odin on my previous S8+ to be able to install the one UI beta and that worked fine. Though it did come with a couple of apps that were a part of that carriers firmware (three UK)
I'm aware that the F uses an exynos processor whereas the U is Snapdragon and have seen a couple of guides already. Though they use AT&T firmware and, from what I've seen, have bloatware that would literally be useless to me.
I'll have a look at the guide you linked.
I'd like to have one UI again, but can happily live with the Samsung experience UI if I had to.
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What's the software version that you currently running?

kevindevonwilliams said:
What's the software version that you currently running?
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8.1 with Samsung experience 9.5
Build number ends ARL1

spears93 said:
8.1 with Samsung experience 9.5
Build number ends ARL1
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Option1:
You can flash the Pie beta since you're running U1, there isn't an official release of Pie as yet.
Option2:
You can switch your device to the U firmware and flash the latest OTA however you would have to manually update each time because you won't be getting an update automatically.

kevindevonwilliams said:
Option1:
You can flash the Pie beta since you're running U1, there isn't an official release of Pie as yet.
Option2:
You can switch your device to the U firmware and flash the latest OTA however you would have to manually update each time because you won't be getting an update automatically.
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How come the U firmware wouldn't get OTAs?
My S8+ was flashed to get the beta and that received OTA updates.
If I'm to go onto one UI I'd want it to get OTA updates still. If that means waiting for an official release then so be it
On a different note, I installed an app to get the FM radio working today. Can't do that with the UK exynos version ?

spears93 said:
How come the U firmware wouldn't get OTAs?
My S8+ was flashed to get the beta and that received OTA updates.
If I'm to go onto one UI I'd want it to get OTA updates still. If that means waiting for an official release then so be it
On a different note, I installed an app to get the FM radio working today. Can't do that with the UK exynos version
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Because on the U most OTA comes from the carrier (ATT & VZW) while the rest comes from Samsung.
U1 all updates come from Samsung but U1 updates are months behind.
Advantage of running U firmware is you always get to be on the latest OTA as one is available.

kevindevonwilliams said:
Because on the U most OTA comes from the carrier (ATT & VZW) while the rest comes from Samsung.
U1 all updates come from Samsung but U1 updates are months behind.
Advantage of running U firmware is you always get to be on the latest OTA as one is available.
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So correct me if I'm wrong but to simplify what you're saying:
The U gets the latest updates sooner but comes with carrier bloat
The U1 gets non bloated updates but Samsung doesn't release then until months later?
I'll leave it and wait if that's the case. I'd be more bothered about having bloat than One UI

spears93 said:
So correct me if I'm wrong but to simplify what you're saying:
The U gets the latest updates sooner but comes with carrier bloat
The U1 gets non bloated updates but Samsung doesn't release then until months later?
I'll leave it and wait if that's the case. I'd be more bothered about having bloat than One UI
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Well yes the U comes with bloatware but the amount varies according to carrier, but since you're in the UK. Your CSC will read as XAA/XAA so therefore I doubt you would have any bloatware.
I know this because I myself had own a US device while using in the UK.

kevindevonwilliams said:
Well yes the U comes with bloatware but the amount varies according to carrier, but since you're in the UK. Your CSC will read as XAA/XAA so therefore I doubt you would have any bloatware.
I know this because I myself had own a US device while using in the UK.
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Right, I'm with you, thanks.
My current carrier software version version is XAA/XAA and theres no bloat so I know what I'm hunting for now
Cheers for your help mate

spears93 said:
Right, I'm with you, thanks.
My current carrier software version version is XAA/XAA and theres no bloat so I know what I'm hunting for now
Cheers for your help mate
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Right so even if you switch to U firmware it would still remain XAA/XAA because that would be the default CSC code for Unbranded for American model. F model is normally XEU or BTU

kevindevonwilliams said:
Right so even if you switch to U firmware it would still remain XAA/XAA because that would be the default CSC code for Unbranded for American model. F model is normally XEU or BTU
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When I did the S8+ I had to go through a pretty big list to find the BTU firmware so assumed I'd have to do the same for the N9
I might give it a go if I get a chance this week

Seeing as you have the US variant of the Note 9. You may have issues receieving connecting to certain networks outside the US. As most US Networks use a different LTE band from the EU/UK

No Update for XSP N960F

This isn't much of a question more is it a vent of frustration towards Samsung. I am still on the July Security Policy despite Samsung claiming Monthly Security Updates. When OEM's refuse to Update their devices on time or out right at all this is when fragmentation becomes a big deal. Monthly should mean Monthly Until the end of life. No exceptions.
Thoughts?

last1youlove said:
This isn't much of a question more is it a vent of frustration towards Samsung. I am still on the July Security Policy despite Samsung claiming Monthly Security Updates. When OEM's refuse to Update their devices on time or out right at all this is when fragmentation becomes a big deal. Monthly should mean Monthly Until the end of life. No exceptions.
Thoughts?
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maybe its your carrier more than samsung.

bober10113 said:
maybe its your carrier more than samsung.
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I have an International Unlocked N960F/DS Its not carrier branded.

last1youlove said:
I have an International Unlocked N960F/DS Its not carrier branded.
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then just update it manualy:
https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-note-9/firmware/SM-N960F/BNG/download/N960FXXS3CSH2/286019/
you can also use samfirm tool 0.3.6 or frija app to download it with ure pc since that web site has trash speeds and flash it using odin. but be sure ure pc has samsung android drivers before using odin.
i believe you could also use samsung smart switch software to check for an update and flash it too.
so as you can see you can just update the device yourself instead of waiting. read and search xda for any of the tools and ways to use them aforementioned.

bober10113 said:
then just update it manualy:
https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-note-9/firmware/SM-N960F/BNG/download/N960FXXS3CSH2/286019/
you can also use samfirm tool 0.3.6 or frija app to download it with ure pc since that web site has trash speeds and flash it using odin. but be sure ure pc has samsung android drivers before using odin.
i believe you could also use samsung smart switch software to check for an update and flash it too.
so as you can see you can just update the device yourself instead of waiting. read and search xda for any of the tools and ways to use them aforementioned.
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I was hoping to do that however I checked on there for mine. My product code is XSP which is the Singapore Version and the latest one is June 1st which im already on. If I were to flash a different region's firmware could I just use Home CSC to keep XSP? Thanks for the help

last1youlove said:
I was hoping to do that however I checked on there for mine. My product code is XSP which is the Singapore Version and the latest one is June 1st which im already on. If I were to flash a different region's firmware could I just use Home CSC to keep XSP? Thanks for the help
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you can probably skip it all together. but your csc is the carrier code. if the phone is not carrier tied then you should either use the link i sent which is multi csc and would probably contain your sim CSC or find out the carrier code matching your carrier/sim.
read up on samsung and CSC for more details.

last1youlove said:
I was hoping to do that however I checked on there for mine. My product code is XSP which is the Singapore Version and the latest one is June 1st which im already on. If I were to flash a different region's firmware could I just use Home CSC to keep XSP? Thanks for the help
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Yes. It won't change your product code and wipe your device. Rest assured.

maple_mak said:
Yes. It won't change your product code and wipe your device. Rest assured.
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well it will if he chooses csc.md5 over home_csc.md5
on an other note id suggest OP to flash BTU firmware as that is acualy a sales code(europe multi csc) associated to an actual firmware.

last1youlove said:
I have an International Unlocked N960F/DS Its not carrier branded.
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i have the same model but i believe it's something to do with the region instead of the carrier.
In comparison withe the firmware for both SG and PH, PH received 2 updates from July (CSF9 and CSG3) as compared to SG which only received one (CSF9).

donetus said:
i have the same model but i believe it's something to do with the region instead of the carrier.
In comparison withe the firmware for both SG and PH, PH received 2 updates from July (CSF9 and CSG3) as compared to SG which only received one (CSF9).
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Yeah, I think ill just wait it out because flashing over a security patch seems like a nuclear option. Hopefully in arrives in the coming weeks. Thanks for the help and information though everyone I appreciate it.

You guys are touching a contentious issues with the way Samsung delivers update in Singapore.
Due to the national telcos bottlenecking the process, Samsung phones are getting much lesser updates than the rest of the world.
As an example, Galaxy Note 9 in Europe (UK/DE/FR), version N960F which is identical to the one sold in Singapore received a total of 24 updates, including 4 different built of Android 10/OneUI 2.0 and is up to date with the March 2020 security update.
In Singapore, the Note 9 received 8 updates and the latest is from October 2019 with the October security update.

Changing csc for N960N - Android 10

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I was able to change csc in Q for our n960n and this is how i did:
I flashed Superstable Q rom and the Dev included the option during installation in aroma to chose a different csc, i keept using the rom for 2-3 days and didn't have any issues, but before returning to Pie i did tested Dr.ketan's Q rom rom and Alexndr's-devbase Q rom and in both cases i still had my csc.
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Im opening this thread to find a solution on how to change the csc on note9 n960n in android 10.
Doing so in Android Pie was easy ( of course with help from this great community ).
there is a tool provided here called - Csc selector - which i used and it worked great ( for note8/note9/note10), some roms offer the option to chose during installation.
when i updated to android 10 it changes the csc i had, probably because Samsung made some changes so i guess we will have to wait until more csc are released with updating process still in the way.
i will post any news/tutorial i find here and hopefully you too.

Almighty bump for this frustrating problem. I too am on the incorrect CSC on Q...everything works so I just ignore it but I can't help but think I am not getting the reception I would otherwise be getting if all available bands were utilised. I am on n960 FDS and should be on XSA CSC but I'm on XSG.
I'm not sure there are even Android 10 roms available for XSA region code yet.

bandario said:
Almighty bump for this frustrating problem. I too am on the incorrect CSC on Q...everything works so I just ignore it but I can't help but think I am not getting the reception I would otherwise be getting if all available bands were utilised. I am on n960 FDS and should be on XSA CSC but I'm on XSG.
I'm not sure there are even Android 10 roms available for XSA region code yet.
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We might be near because Samsung keeps releasing android Q to more regions for n9 and s9 now started to get its update.

I'm not sure how they've done it but there is a fix if you are prepared to flash a non-stock rom or already have.
You can flash either Alexandr's Devbase or Zeus Rom beta from the zeus telegram group, and before flashing rename the rom zip to include your appropriate csc followed by _. Read first post of devbase for details, it worked a treat for me and I didn't even think XSA was available for Q roms yet.

bandario said:
I'm not sure how they've done it but there is a fix if you are prepared to flash a non-stock rom or already have.
You can flash either Alexandr's Devbase or Zeus Rom beta from the zeus telegram group, and before flashing rename the rom zip to include your appropriate csc followed by _. Read first post of devbase for details, it worked a treat for me and I didn't even think XSA was available for Q roms yet.
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that doesnt work for my device i have an n960n and the only supported csc are KOO, KTC, LG, SKC, i can change to one of those in alexandr's rom ( by the way i love that rom and i came back from it to pie because of this problem) but no to n960f csc's so i guess i will have to wait until there is a mod to change csc in android q.
thanks for your reply.

Maybe you can try with Samkey software, but it's not free.

Even I am in this boat, I downloaded an n960f rom and tried to flash the csc on my n960n.
And yeah it failed.
Wish it were an easier process.
I just want the random reboots to go away on q.

snebojsa said:
Maybe you can try with Samkey software, but it's not free.
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they offer only sim unlock, i didnt see in their web page that they can change phone model, your reply made me think if we could change the bootloader/model completely with a tool ( my friend has some of those he uses them to unlock/repair/flash phones).

vishnu vijay said:
Even I am in this boat, I downloaded an n960f rom and tried to flash the csc on my n960n.
And yeah it failed.
Wish it were an easier process.
I just want the random reboots to go away on q.
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sorry to hear that, i hope you solve that soon, us too .

ubejd said:
they offer only sim unlock, i didnt see in their web page that they can change phone model, your reply made me think if we could change the bootloader/model completely with a tool ( my friend has some of those he uses them to unlock/repair/flash phones).
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No need to reset device to change csc if you already have a multi csc firmware for example OXM. Use phone info or something similar from play store to check.
I used samkey (purchased 2 credits from ebay for $5) and in a minute changed csc to THL
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Buy samkey credits from ebay (you need 2 to change csc) you get them in a form of a username and password
Download samkey from theit website
Connect N10+ to your pc with the cable you got with your phone
Open samkey, input username and password, input THL in the csc field and execute. (my first attempt failed with a server error the second one suceeded)
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This is from thread about changing CSC to enable call recording function.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441643&page=806

snebojsa said:
This is from thread about changing CSC to enable call recording function.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441643&page=806
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thanks for your input but this model of note 9 - n960n is made for Korea and i has only 4 csc - KOO/LG/KTC/SKC , these csc have limitations when used outside South Korea which is the case for me, because of this i have network issues so i want to change it to a n960f model or multi csc so i dont have those network limitations.
i changed my phones csc to multi csc with a flashable tool "csc selector" and i works great but this works only in PIE, samsung made some changes in Q and it doesnt work.

Oh, ok, didn't know the story about n960n.

I need to change too!

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I was able to change csc in Q for our n960n and this is how i did:
I flashed Superstable rom and the Dev included the option during installation in aroma to chose a different csc, i keept using the rom for 2-3 days and didn't have any issues, but before returning to Pie i did tested Dr.ketan's Q rom rom and Alexndr's-devbase Q rom and in both cases i still had my csc.

Can i change n9600n firmware to n960f ?
Please advice me, I am new to this kind of works, thanks in advance

onceindian said:
Please advice me, I am new to this kind of works, thanks in advance
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If you mean N960N, Yes you can as i mentioned couple post ago.
You need to root your phone by following the instructions in note 9 guides forum, then go to note 9 rom development forum and choose the one you prefer.

Question How to force updates ?

Hi there.
Admittedly, I get a bit confused with the Xiaomi ROM versions and updates.
But... As far as I can tell my phone hasn't received a system update for a very long time, my android security patch is Dated December last year and I'm still on miui 12.5.
Is this correct ? If not, how do I force the latest ROM.
My phone is on the stock ROM. Locked bootloader.

lordjubblydave said:
Hi there.
Admittedly, I get a bit confused with the Xiaomi ROM versions and updates.
But... As far as I can tell my phone hasn't received a system update for a very long time, my android security patch is Dated December last year and I'm still on miui 12.5.
Is this correct ? If not, how do I force the latest ROM.
My phone is on the stock ROM. Locked bootloader.
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You are on
Xiaomi 11T Pro EEAStable BetaV12.5.19.0.RKDEUXM11.02021-12-20
Use wifi and change the region.

Thanks
My region is set to UK (where I live)
WiFi is on..
These have been the settings since I owned the phone.
I used to receive updates.
What region should I change to ?

lordjubblydave said:
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My region is set to UK (where I live)
WiFi is on..
These have been the settings since I owned the phone.
I used to receive updates.
What region should I change to ?
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Try Belgium then outside Europe.
It doesn't work all the time, especially when you have a stable beta.

NOSS8 said:
Try Belgium then outside Europe.
It doesn't work all the time, especially when you have a stable beta.
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Thanks for your help.
I ended up downloading the latest update and installing it manually..
Using software update.
All sorted now

lordjubblydave said:
Thanks for your help.
I ended up downloading the latest update and installing it manually..
Using software update.
All sorted now
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For some Miui 13 is not a success but you are up to date now.

Android 13 One UI 5 Update Help Needed Please

Hello everyone,so with Android 13 rolling out for our devices,i would like to find out if it is possible to flash the firmware from one country/region on a phone from another country/region?
The reason for my asking is because in my country i still have not had any news at all about Android 13 and when it will be available. With updates coming out so quickly lately,i am worried that world-wide Android 14 will be rolling out already by the time the network providers in my country decide to finally make Android 13 available here.

Trace.Oneil said:
Hello everyone,so with Android 13 rolling out for our devices,i would like to find out if it is possible to flash the firmware from one country/region on a phone from another country/region?
The reason for my asking is because in my country i still have not had any news at all about Android 13 and when it will be available. With updates coming out so quickly lately,i am worried that world-wide Android 14 will be rolling out already by the time the network providers in my country decide to finally make Android 13 available here.
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Hello. Sure, you can flash other region firmware. Just be careful that it is accurate for your model. And one more nuance - in a firmware for different countries call recording and Samsung Pay may not be available. For example, firmware for India and Vietnam has native call recorder.

gorro8 said:
Hello. Sure, you can flash other region firmware. Just be careful that it is accurate for your model. And one more nuance - in a firmware for different countries call recording and Samsung Pay may not be available. For example, firmware for India and Vietnam has native call recorder.
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@gorro8 thank you,i dont use call recording or Samsung pay anyway,so it should'nt bother me. I am thinking of maybe downloading for UK as it is english and we use english here in South Africa as well

In that case any region you want. Good luck!)

gorro8 said:
In that case any region you want. Good luck!)
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Thank you @gorro8

We finally got the update on Vodacom yesterday
I also thought we'd have to wait until next year, lol! Just thought I'd mention it here, in case you haven't flashed another region's firmware