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How to remove apps from desktop, but keep them...

Coming from my Nexus 6 (and Android Nougat), I can download apps to my Nexus 6 and:
1) Keep them in my apps icon / list
2) Keep them off of my Desktop, but still accessible on my phone through the app icon / list.
How do I do the same with the Xiaomi Mi Mix?
I am on the Chinese version of the September build, and to my surprise the Google Play Store was included in the build (I thought it was not incorporated in those builds).
After I installed by sim, and started by phone, I had forced all my google play store apps to transfer to my new Mi Mix. What I do not understand, is that all the app installed on the desktop (very cluttered).
Is there not a way to have them look and feel like all north american versions of the android smart phones ? ? ?
Where the apps download and install to the smart phone, but do not necessarily remain on the desktop home screens?
Cheers

LormaD said:
Coming from my Nexus 6 (and Android Nougat), I can download apps to my Nexus 6 and:
1) Keep them in my apps icon / list
2) Keep them off of my Desktop, but still accessible on my phone through the app icon / list.
How do I do the same with the Xiaomi Mi Mix?
I am on the Chinese version of the September build, and to my surprise the Google Play Store was included in the build (I thought it was not incorporated in those builds).
After I installed by sim, and started by phone, I had forced all my google play store apps to transfer to my new Mi Mix. What I do not understand, is that all the app installed on the desktop (very cluttered).
Is there not a way to have them look and feel like all north american versions of the android smart phones ? ? ?
Where the apps download and install to the smart phone, but do not necessarily remain on the desktop home screens?
Cheers
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MIUI is like iOS.
No app drawer and all installed apps on the screen. I have placed the MIUI apps I don't want into a folder and moved them onto a page I never access. You could also install Nova Launcher or something like it which lets you use a more conventional launcher.appearance.
Once rooted you can freeze apps or disable them.
Cheers
J
Sent from my MIX using XDA Labs

thank you for the quick reply. . .
Aeskulapio said:
MIUI is like iOS.
No app drawer and all installed apps on the screen. I have placed the MIUI apps I don't want into a folder and moved them onto a page I never access. You could also install Nova Launcher or something like it which lets you use a more conventional launcher.appearance.
Once rooted you can freeze apps or disable them.
Cheers
J
Sent from my MIX using XDA Labs
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Amen to that brother, that was my original choice (to create a single folder and throw all the apps in there). Question, does it organize them for you in an alphabetical order?
I was afraid of that. I thought the method used by most of the Android like operating systems from the days of lollipop - - - nougat, did a bang on job of app organizing. My last iOS was the original iPhone 2g, and later the iPhone 4.
Personally, Xiaomi missed the boat with that (MIUI / iOS)

Samsung Phonecast don't work anymore since the Update to Android 10 on my S10.

Samsung Phonecast don't work anymore since the Update to Android 10 on my S10.
Before that i could use any App on Phonecast qhile the Oculus App Store s bery limited.
My Phone was fully Usable in Gear with Phonecast.
Now it ist nearly Useless with the Gear. The only Apps i can use in Oculus on the Gear are Youtube and Netflix. Phonecast starts but when i start an App on Labs, it will not start and leeps loading without sucess.
Since the Update on Android 10 My GameLauncher is now difficult to start too, because i can not use it from the Buttom of the Screen. The Gamelauncher has no Link on its Quickpanel and i have to go over the Quickpanel of the Phone on the Top of the Screen.
I can not use my Linux App anymore since the Update on Android 10. Samsungs Linus on Dex Beta worked fine before, even qhen Samsung stopped supporting it, but since the Android 10 Update, i can not use it anymore.
And last, but not least, i can not go back to Android 9
Obviously Samsung did that intentionlly to force to dissaude us from the Gear VR like they did that with Linux on Beta.
Therefore to keep your will and to self-determined, you have to prevent the Update. But even that Samsung and Google want to enforce by announcing to force automated Updates in the next Future.
They want to dictate us how to use Equipments.
Wasn't it the Reason why Android was developed?
Now they use this against us.
But back to my first Problem:
Wgat is going wrong with Samsung Phonecast on Gear VR, when using it with Android on S10?

Bettmehn said:
Samsung Phonecast don't work anymore since the Update to Android 10 on my S10.
Before that i could use any App on Phonecast qhile the Oculus App Store s bery limited.
My Phone was fully Usable in Gear with Phonecast.
Now it ist nearly Useless with the Gear. The only Apps i can use in Oculus on the Gear are Youtube and Netflix. Phonecast starts but when i start an App on Labs, it will not start and leeps loading without sucess.
Since the Update on Android 10 My GameLauncher is now difficult to start too, because i can not use it from the Buttom of the Screen. The Gamelauncher has no Link on its Quickpanel and i have to go over the Quickpanel of the Phone on the Top of the Screen.
I can not use my Linux App anymore since the Update on Android 10. Samsungs Linus on Dex Beta worked fine before, even qhen Samsung stopped supporting it, but since the Android 10 Update, i can not use it anymore.
And last, but not least, i can not go back to Android 9
Obviously Samsung did that intentionlly to force to dissaude us from the Gear VR like they did that with Linux on Beta.
Therefore to keep your will and to self-determined, you have to prevent the Update. But even that Samsung and Google want to enforce by announcing to force automated Updates in the next Future.
They want to dictate us how to use Equipments.
Wasn't it the Reason why Android was developed?
Now they use this against us.
But back to my first Problem:
Wgat is going wrong with Samsung Phonecast on Gear VR, when using it with Android on S10?
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Gear VR is dying slowly but surely.
https://www.sammobile.com/news/gear-vr-no-longer-available-samsung-xr-service-killed/

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DaReDeViL said:
Gear VR is dying slowly but surely.
https://www.sammobile.com/news/gear-vr-no-longer-available-samsung-xr-service-killed/
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Redmi Note 9 3GB 64GB - factory reset missing items?

I have the UK model of this, running MIUI 12.0.3 with security patch 2020-07-01 (as it came from factory).
So I decided to have a quick mess about with the phone and eventually decided to do a factory reset.
Once back in, I noticed the following:
- Google app drawer is missing a few apps
- 'More app' drawer is missing an app (now 5 not the 6 - can't remember which)
- Completely missing the Games drawer
Other missing apps include:
- Mi Store
- Mi Community
- Opera browser
I am not particularly fussed, but more intrigued as I thought it'll reset back to the state I'd originally received it in from Xiaomi.
Is this normal? Has anyone else noticed?
I assume I could just perform an update, but would just like to know why this has happened and as mentioned above, I was expecting it to reset back to its original state?

Question EU vs. Chinese Rom

I'm still in the 7 day waiting period to unlock phone, currently on Chinese 13.0.25. Just wondering what the experience has been on this vs. the EU Rom available, is there an advantage to switch. Do Google apps come stock on the EU rom?

I definitely recommend the xiaomi.eu version over stock Chinese.
The major benefit is that Google apps are stock, allowing for a less limited android experience.
Beyond that, there's stuff like bloatware and non-english app removal. There's other stuff listed in their changelogs, but those few that I listed are the main things I cared for
The main downside is that there's no auto-updating since TWRP isn't available.

avoid chinese Rom! On EU everything works great

CN ROM does not work, notifications are delayed or never come through, no apps show on the lock screen and there's over 45 preinstalled Chinese apps. If you're planning to use Signal as your default messaging app, then don't.... I spent half a day trying to get Signal to show or notify but doesn't work. It worked perfectly in EEA Stable ROM.
The "find my phone" feature only works in China if logged in to your Xiaomi account and the Mi carrier services also only works in China so you have this useless bubble in the Control Center showing no information.
EU ROM didn't work well for me, slow and sluggish, WiFi hotspot wouldn't work, frequent Bluetooth disconnects. The EEA ROM that's just been released is best.

I didn't realize there was an EEA rom and a Global rom, i'm in Canada on the global ROM and everything is working fine.

Personally, i love Xiaomi EU and i prefer over the EEA/Global rom because on my last 2 phones (POCO F3 and Xiaomi 12 Pro) with the Stock ROM 5g signal doesn't work at all, once updated to the Xiaomi.eu ROM it recieve 5G signal everywhere. On plus you can have update first, and works better even on sh'tty app like FB, IG etc.

EU has been working flawlessly

bhammler said:
avoid chinese Rom! On EU everything works great
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Whats difference EU Rom and Global Rom? Will flashing new Rom erase my current apps?

ScoOby-Do0 said:
CN ROM does not work, notifications are delayed or never come through, no apps show on the lock screen and there's over 45 preinstalled Chinese apps. If you're planning to use Signal as your default messaging app, then don't.... I spent half a day trying to get Signal to show or notify but doesn't work. It worked perfectly in EEA Stable ROM.
The "find my phone" feature only works in China if logged in to your Xiaomi account and the Mi carrier services also only works in China so you have this useless bubble in the Control Center showing no information.
EU ROM didn't work well for me, slow and sluggish, WiFi hotspot wouldn't work, frequent Bluetooth disconnects. The EEA ROM that's just been released is best.
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I have found that China ROM has really bad notification problems, they do not show on lock screen, or if they do, they are delayed by hours. How can I flash Global or EU Rom? Is there a tutorial somewhere?

lazmidnight said:
I have found that China ROM has really bad notification problems, they do not show on lock screen, or if they do, they are delayed by hours. How can I flash Global or EU Rom? Is there a tutorial somewhere?
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We don't say EU rom but EEA, to avoid confusion with Xiaomi EU rom (better than stock for CN devices).
Change stock roms(dont re lock the bootloader):https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/flash-tool-guide-use-xiaomi-flash-tool.4262425/
If you install a stock rom on a CN device, you must root and use Magisk to have the play store certified, hence the interest of Xiaomi EU roms or it is not necessary for everything to work.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-miui-zeus-xiaomi-eu-rom-for-xiaomi-mi-12-pro.4400035/

Open-source is the best. Not matter who made.

useruser13 said:
Open-source is the best. Not matter who made.
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are there any for mi 12 pro (zeus) /

Here are the main difference between
China ROM Vs EU Rom vs Global Rom
Tested on: Xiaomi 12s Ultra
All known issues that still persist as of June 2023 Miui 14.0.12.0:
China Rom:
1) contacts not at your contact list calling at your phone will always show Unknown Numbers at Notification toolbar
2) AOD display have no option to disable auto turn off if phone prolonged at dark room. So it will always turn off itself.
3) turning off Bluetooth from drop down top menu only turn off 24 hours. This will drive you insane.
4) if you use english, a brief 2 second of Chinese after reboot will show in apps like clock, and calendar app before changing to english. A lot of high end advance settings still have traces of chinese and broken english.
5) And a lot of bugs, crashes, stuttering where china developers never bother to fix.
6) installation of apk have extra security steps.
7) lots of chinese bloatware that cannot be removed. Advertisement in native apps like mi video. You might ask, i can always get vlc. Don't forget, native app functionality is always better because it have better latency! Vlc apk have audio delay! Go see for yourself...
8) feedback all in chinese and they don't read or entertained english complaints.
9) themes and wallpaper are all chinese uploaded community despite changing english.
10) does not support google hands free assistant. ok Google feature will be grey out under settings!!
11) smartwatches you bought globally will not work with playstore global apps. You need to download the chinese version to get it working. For example, Fossil Gen 5e will not work at playstore Wearable App but will work at getapps wearable app.
12)A lot of Bluetooth headset signature compatibility issues. Brands that can't be detected by xiaomi are: Audeze, Turtle Beach, Creative, etc
13) phone crash from app are very frequent. E.g app closing and reopening itself. So is like a 1 second keyboard and app minimized and maximized crash scenarios. At least once every 1 hour from intensive stress testing.
14) very aggressive miui optimization that closes app even when you told them not to. Battery life was excellent.
15) 10 second security delay on unsecure app.
16) system update 1 toogle. Getapps update for your mi apps. And playstore for your 3rd party ones. Can your mother learn this?
17) Torch light that turn itself off in 1 hour. Good luck hiking with it.
18) you can turn off miui optimization and toggle for pause activity in apps are present.
EU Rom:
1)You can't turn off miui optimization, so a few toggle like pause activity only available in off optimization settings. This will drive u nuts as rarely used apps will always need you to grant permission.
2)An active development team that actually fix things. E.g AOD display that stays on forever. Bluetooth that turn off forever from drop down. It will show phone number instead of unknown numbers from notification listing.
3) System update is slow.
4) if you encounter bug in default mi apps like, mi video, messaging, you will need to wait 3 months before it fix. Cause you can't update mi apps via Get apps. Only can update 3rd party apps via playstore.
5) installation of apk have less steps.
6) no bloatware. But still u can find some useless mi app like, mi coin, mi browser which cannot be removed. Advertisement in mi video is also removed, so is wise to use native apps for video because it have better latency!!
7) toxic community and developers that scrutinized your feedback from their forum. E.g their lead Igor is the most toxic developer i ever met. Their tester like gogocar are very helpful and resourceful. Lets hope the war in Russia won't affect their work in the long run if you know what i meant!
8) access to themes and wallpaper are still native chinese.
9) support google hands free assistant. Ok Google features.
10) global wearable apps found at playstore will work with your smart watches.
11)A lot of Bluetooth headset signature compatibility issues. Brands that can't be detected by xiaomi are: Audeze, Turtle Beach, Creative, etc
12) phone crash from app are not that frequent. E.g app closing and reopening itself. So is like a 1 second keyboard and app minimized and maximized crash scenarios. At least once every 3 hour from intensive stress testing.
13) bootloader is unlocked yet the whole rom is still not as flexible as a total rooted device.
14) less aggressive miui optimization that does not closes app when you told them not to. Battery life was excellent.
15) many will choose to go EU Rom, cause at the end of the day, you will hate miui os soo much!
16) 10 second security delay on unsecure app.
17) if you use adb shell command line is now screwed with multiple session that can't be reset to single session no more. There is a emulator user in your rom.
18) straight forward system update that updates all ur mi apps and playstore for your 3rd party ones.
19) Torch light that does not turn itself off.
20) developers hide a lot of features. You can't turn off miui optimization here. And pause app activity toggle is missing.
Global Rom
1) everything in english. If you switch to chinese or other languages, a brief moment of english will show after reboot.
2) contacts not at your least calling at your phone will always show Unknown Numbers at Notification toolbar
3) AOD display have no option to disable auto turn off if phone prolonged at dark room. So it will always turn off itself.
4) turning off Bluetooth from drop down top menu only turn off 24 hours. This will drive you insane.
5) themes and personalized uploads are in english also.
6) support google hands free assistant. Ok Google features.
7) wearable apps from playstore will work with most wearables.
8)A lot of Bluetooth headset signature compatibility issues. Brands that can't be detected by xiaomi are: Audeze, Turtle Beach, Creative, etc
9) phone crash from app are very frequent. E.g app closing and reopening itself. So is like a 1 second keyboard and app minimized and maximized crash scenarios. At least once every 1 hour from intensive stress testing.
10) lots of localized global bloatware apps. Mi video is riddle with advertisement too. So you will have to find alternative app like vlc which has audio delay latency issue in movies.
11) very aggressive miui optimization that closes app even when you told them not to. Battery life was excellent
12) 10 second security delay on unsecure app.
13) realtime updates from getapps and playstore.
14) Torch light that turn itself off in 1 hour. Good luck using it.
15) you can turn off miui optimization.
So in the end what can we learnt and summarize? Miui os is no doubt the worst android operating system in the market when in comparison to samsung one ui.
So which one would you choose? You should choose EU rom. Cause at the end of the day, is about functionality. 1 key difference is that EU Rom AOD display will have the option to stay on forever whereas the 2 other rom does not! This is a deal or no deal breaker when comparing operating system! So, better not buy xiaomi to begin with! End of story.

Question Is it safe to flash Indonesian ROM over a Global ROM?

Hello everybody.
I'm sorry if this was asked many times. I have a Redmi Note 11 (spes) model 2201117TL running a Global MIUI ROM on Android 11. Just like many users, I hate Google Dialer and Messages, especially after using MIUI 9 with MI Dialer (with call recording) and Messages for almost 5 years on a Redmi 4X. So I want to install the Indonesian ROM, the only for my device with those apps. I downloaded the ROM "spesn_id_global_images_V13.0.7.0.RGKIDXM_20220822.0000.00_11.0_global". I don't like the Dynamic Color and some apps I use fail with Android 12 so I downloaded the last one released with Android 11. And there's no ROM without NFC for this device. I already unlocked my bootloader but I'll have to relock it in order to get Play Protect certification. The Xiaomi.eu ROM looks nice but don't want to mess around with custom recoveries and all that, I'd rather stay with official software.
So my questions:
- Is is safe to use MiFlash to flash the Indonesian version on this device?? I've seen many videos were they do it on different devices. I want to know experiences on this one.
- Is there a problem if I install a ROM with NFC on a device without NFC?
- When MIUI starts I got a message that I have to activate the device, logging into my MI account because the device it's associated with it. I guess that's because of the SIM card in it. There's no problem with that flashing the Global ROM but should I take it off now for the Indonesian??
- Is there any serious bugs on the Indonesian ROM?? I want to flash a version with Android 11 but still I'd like to know if anyone had any serious problem.
Thanks.

I did it and the flashing went fine. However, even though I locked the bootloader I lost the Play Protect Certification. I fixed it quickly following this tutorial: https://xiaomiui.net/how-to-fix-play-protect-certification-error-5405/
Now I logged in into my Google account. I'll continue installing my apps and testing the ROM. I'll keep you guys posted.

Here's an update.
Some cons:
- Google didn't restore some of my apps's data after installing them, it worked before. I had to to it manually.
- I had trouble logging into Google from inside other apps, security from Google said I did it too many times. I just tried again later.
- I noticed the back of the cellphone getting a little warm for a while, it didn't happen with the Global ROM. The Battery section said the temperature was "Medium".
- There's some flickering on the keyboard in some apps like Color Note and WhatsApp. It's somehow related to the fact that this ROM has Mint Keyboard installed as a default (nobody ever mentioned that). If I select that keyboard, the flickering it's gone, I'd use it if I could add other languages besides English (I don't speak any of the other indian gibberish it supports). But if I select Gboard, no matter if I disable Mint Keyboard or not, the flickering it's sometimes there.
- The worst: I have the feeling that this ROM drains the battery faster than the Global ROM. I have no way to know for sure, it's just a perception. I guees it could be related to the fact that I use a Xiaomi Backup to restore my apps and settings, that backup was made on a Global ROM, that process messed some things up. Or maybe the fact I couldn't connect to Google from the beggining. I'll try later a factory reset and do everything manually again. Last thing to try: update MIUI to Android 12, it worked pretty bad on a Global ROM, maybe it's better on this one.
Some pros:
- MIUI Dialer and call recording work like a charm. The quality of the recording beats the sh*t out of the one of any third app (I tried several on the Global ROM)
- MI Calendar works perfectly, that's another simple and useful Xiaomi app missing from the Global ROM (Google Calendar is not that bad though).
- Bluetooth range seems improved: I can walk away from my cellphone and unlike before, I don't start losing signal on my earbuds right away. This is very useful to me, I love listening to music while I do things but I can't always bring the phone with me.
This is all for now.

Thank you keep updated this thread.