Database Develop

Short of rooting my Tab A (SM-T580) tablet, is there any way to remove bloadware?

I have a Galaxy Tab A (SM-T580) WI-FI only tablet that was recently upgraded to Android 8.1.0 by Samsung. I know that many people root their devices to gain complete control over the device and that rooting will allow you to remove the Samsung Bloatware on the device. That being said i wonder if there's a way to remove this bloatware short of rooting the device? If not, I'm concerned that the rooting methods might not be compatible after my tablet was recently updated. I'm also concerned about the complexity of the rooting process as I'm not technically savvy and the last thing I want to do is turn my tablet into a brick.
My main concern is that there is so much bloatware on this device that I never use that now I'm unable to install new apps that I do want without removing other apps I do use and want to keep. Note that I have already moved the apps I can to my SD card and I'm still short on application storage.
Can I please get some advance on what direction I can take? Thanks.

Play store has some stuff . . .
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=bloatware&c=apps&hl=en
One of them might work . . .
.
Might.

Moondoggy51 said:
I have a Galaxy Tab A (SM-T580) WI-FI only tablet that was recently upgraded to Android 8.1.0 by Samsung. I know that many people root their devices to gain complete control over the device and that rooting will allow you to remove the Samsung Bloatware on the device. That being said i wonder if there's a way to remove this bloatware short of rooting the device? If not, I'm concerned that the rooting methods might not be compatible after my tablet was recently updated. I'm also concerned about the complexity of the rooting process as I'm not technically savvy and the last thing I want to do is turn my tablet into a brick.
My main concern is that there is so much bloatware on this device that I never use that now I'm unable to install new apps that I do want without removing other apps I do use and want to keep. Note that I have already moved the apps I can to my SD card and I'm still short on application storage.
Can I please get some advance on what direction I can take? Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK several points. Firstly there is no point in removing system apps, you will gain absolutely nothing.
It's better to simply disable them and you don't need root to do this.
Second you cannot install apps to the system partition unless you have root so in no way is this affecting you installing other apps.
Lastly it is highly unlikely that you will turn your device into a brick by rooting . It's not really possible as it's simply a software hack that is easily removed.
Your best tool is research before you root.

HELP! "Your phone is locked because the payment service was uninstalled."

I got this issue while rooting my SM-G9750 s10+ with an unlocked bootloader. Did anyone else with root get this during the root process, and what caused it? This happened after a factory reset.

I had this but it happened after debloating system apps, including this one. Only solution for me was to re flash stock, then patch and root again.

Let me know if you figure out a workaround. Its related to KNOX debloat.

Flashing stock with Odin including factory reset can be helpful but this Knox protection can cause a full brick. It's possible that you need to send the phone to Samsung and eventually pay for a restore.

This happened when I debloated samsung pay by freezing those apps. I flashed a zip in recovery to enable all frozen apps and then installed google pay, then I could then debloat those apps without issue.

If you have a PC with ADB & admin -you should be able to reinstall the package via a command prompt. I was testing out removing various packages, uninstalled this and got immediate phone lock but reinstalling it fixed it immediately. I used this:
Code:
pm install-existing --user 0 com.samsung.android.kgclient
but you may need
Code:
pm enable --user 0 com.samsung.android.kgclient
or similar if you disabled it rather than uninstalled it. I don't use disable so not sure I've got the syntax correct.
Otherwise as others have said a factory reset should fix it.

Ya knox guard seems to mess these phones up its disabled or removed. There should be another application that looks for its status that we could modify/remove.

Someone's figured it out because I've used a pie ROM for the S7 with no payment services (kgclient) installed. Black Diamond NFE i think.
If you pluck it out before installing a ROM it'll still freeze the phone on the ones i've made myself. Not sure where to look but have spent plenty of time doing so.

Just to help out anyone stumbling across this on their new phone:
If (in ADB shell) you disable packages via
Code:
pm disable-user --user 0 PACKAGE
Then you can re-activate them via
Code:
pm enable PACKAGE
My phone just showed the locked-screen and did not want to interact with me anymore - well, besides ADB that is.
I re-enabled all packages and found my phone still locked.
A reboot solved that, leading me to believe that whatever breaks down when disabling it, will not get restarted on its own.
So don't panic, but re-enable all packages (feel free to run "pm list packages -d" to make sure) and restart.
My phone did come back in ADB - so I assume that even the locked phone will come back up but you might want to always trust you device's fingerprint

id be surprised if someome figures out how to block kgclient lol.. woukd solve a lot of problems for ppl

elliwigy said:
id be surprised if someome figures out how to block kgclient lol.. woukd solve a lot of problems for ppl
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe it's been done pretty much a year ago. No sign of knoxguard a.k.a. kgclient here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/blackdiamondfesmooth-fastv1-0-t3915483
(Great ROM by the way).
*When i did debloat builds for the A8 i could not flash a zip without it. There's (obviously) something that is enforcing its permissions when uninstalled or not included in a 'new' OS install. I tried commenting it out from certain files with (again, obviously) no success.

I'm trying to rember...On my Note FE it happened when I debloated also. I can't remember if it was Pie or Oreo. But on one those versions it was ok to remove. Also same issue using Titanium Backup. Oreo you could but on Pie you couldn't update apps. But I haven't touched my FE in ages
SM-N950U Extreme Syndicate Root

mindlery said:
I believe it's been done pretty much a year ago. No sign of knoxguard a.k.a. kgclient here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/blackdiamondfesmooth-fastv1-0-t3915483
(Great ROM by the way).
*When i did debloat builds for the A8 i could not flash a zip without it. There's (obviously) something that is enforcing its permissions when uninstalled or not included in a 'new' OS install. I tried commenting it out from certain files with (again, obviously) no success.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yea.. kg client is baked in good.. in dl mode u can even see kg status.. if its prenormal u can only flash stock official binaries even

Pie
I first had the issue in Pie on my A8. If i'm not mistaken it was the introduction of the name knoxguard for the folder that contains the kgclient demon.
The NFE port i spoke of in my last post has many files with its filthy name all over it just like (presumably) all Samsung phones have from 9 onward.
There is some good work on that ROM and if it can reveal a solution... i wouldn't say. I feel guilty just tryin'.

mindlery said:
I first had the issue in Pie on my A8. If i'm not mistaken it was the introduction of the name knoxguard for the folder that contains the kgclient demon.
The NFE port i spoke of in my last post has many files with its filthy name all over it just like (presumably) all Samsung phones have from 9 onward.
There is some good work on that ROM and if it can reveal a solution... i wouldn't say. I feel guilty just tryin'.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
just looked at that rom link.. its an old s7 device, unlocked bl, custom kernel etc etc..
i dont even think kg was a thing at that time at all lol.. so its quite different..

It was for me beginning on July 29, 2019. The S7 ROM was Pie as was my A8 when my screenshot is dated from.
It's been since Pie that its removal caused the.... screenshot. Not all that long. Since 9.0 which will vary by device/discovery.

mindlery said:
It was for me beginning on July 29, 2019. The S7 ROM was Pie as was my A8 when my screenshot is dated from.
It's been since Pie that its removal caused the.... screenshot. Not all that long. Since 9.0 which will vary by device/discovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
my question is why r u posting about s7 or a8 in a s10 thread?

I was posting about having kgclient removed from one ui pie, which last i checked is the same OS on the S10.
Well, now Android 10. Anyway if you don't understand the point i cannot explain any further.

mindlery said:
I was posting about having kgclient removed from one ui pie, which last i checked is the same OS on the S10.
Well, now Android 10. Anyway if you don't understand the point i cannot explain any further.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
u cant remove kgclient.. at least not without root or unlocked bl and even then it wont go easy..
my point was that u will prolly have better luck in ur device thread than traversing into other random threads and posting about different devices.. it causes confusion believe it or not with a lot of users.

No.
---------- Post added at 02:38 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:30 AM ----------
Kgclient is not unique to the S10. It's a Samsung thing starting with Pie and continuing into Android 10. If it is eliminated on the S10 or any other device then it should be the same fix. I stand by my post.
---------- Post added at 02:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:38 AM ----------
I was pointing out that it can be eliminated (as far as i know only by root) by giving an example of an OS used by the S10 where this has been achieved. This means the same solution should (likely) exist for the S10. Confused?

Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G ROOT

Is the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G rootable?

yes it is, there are 2 or 3 threads where people go over the methods they followed

Just don't update it past rev 1 or 2. 1 to be safe.

How To Root Samsung Galaxy S20 FE (SM-G780F) & Install Magisk - NaldoTech
Follow the guide below to root your Samsung Galaxy S20 FE (Fan Edition) and install Magisk Manager. The developer behind Magisk, topjohnwu, released a Magisk
www.naldotech.com

bininga59 said:
How To Root Samsung Galaxy S20 FE (SM-G780F) & Install Magisk - NaldoTech
Follow the guide below to root your Samsung Galaxy S20 FE (Fan Edition) and install Magisk Manager. The developer behind Magisk, topjohnwu, released a Magisk
www.naldotech.com
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately that is for exynos. Not sure how many people need to know how to systemlessly root an exynos. Full root might be more useful for exynos users but good ol' snapdragon has everyone in a pickle (most everyone.)

Flucker08 said:
Unfortunately that is for exynos. Not sure how many people need to know how to systemlessly root an exynos. Full root might be more useful for exynos users but good ol' snapdragon has everyone in a pickle (most everyone.)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
there's zero difference in how both models are rooted. systemless root has been the standard method for all androids for a long time now.

pinguluk said:
Is the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G rootable?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah almost every phone is rootable but it will either cost money or if you've updated your firmware then you'll have to wait until they figure out how to get past it, assuming they do, they always have just takes time. If you have updated your firmware you can look in to selling your device and buying one that hasn't been updated. I can give you more pointers on how to find phones that haven't been updated for cheap but that's only if your interested and no I'm not selling anything.

pinguluk said:
Is the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G rootable?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah almost every phone is rootable but it will either cost money or if you've updated your firmware then you'll have to wait until they figure out how to get past it, assuming they do, they always have just takes time. If you have updated your firmware you can look in to selling your device and buying one that hasn't been updated. I can give you more pointers on how to find phones that haven't been updated for cheap but that's only if your interested and no I'm not selling anything.
3mel said:
there's zero difference in how both models are rooted.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh really. So then why does snapdragon lock the bootloader while exynos doesn't? Not to mention a root that works on exynos won't necessarily work on snapdragon. I thought this was fairly well known.
What exactly are you referring to by model?

Flucker08 said:
Yeah almost every phone is rootable but it will either cost money or if you've updated your firmware then you'll have to wait until they figure out how to get past it, assuming they do, they always have just takes time. If you have updated your firmware you can look in to selling your device and buying one that hasn't been updated. I can give you more pointers on how to find phones that haven't been updated for cheap but that's only if your interested and no I'm not selling anything.
Oh really. So then why does snapdragon lock the bootloader while exynos doesn't? Not to mention a root that works on exynos won't necessarily work on snapdragon. I thought this was fairly well known.
What exactly are you referring to by model?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
magisk doesn't have different versions for different devices and it's been the standard root method for a few years now. since version 22 how it works has changed for all new phones.
I'm on a snapdragon that didn't have a locked bootloader because that's only done in the US market (at the request of or to please US carriers I'm guessing). SM-G780 is a model number of the Exynos S20FE... SM-G781 is the Qualcomm, they both use the exact same method to obtain root.

3mel said:
there's zero difference in how both models are rooted. systemless root has been the standard method for all androids for a long time now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't see your other post. I'm not really in to getting in to these debates online not really my thing but I still use full root myself and systemless as well. They both have their pros and cons. I suppose I prefer to edit system files myself to overclock the device instead of depending on an app to do it for me.
There are lots of people still using full root. I think a long time in terms of electronics can be hard to pinpoint. I've used full root way more times than I've used systemless but I guess that's just because I've been doing it for a long time. I know some linux phones you can buy don't come with systemless root but only come with full root and they don't make systemless root phones off the shelf like they do full root for a reason. To each their own.

google and OEMs have made messing around with the system partition harder, it's read only now and overlays are how edits are mostly done. plus there are more apps that won't run if root is detected, systemless gives you the chance to evade that detection if you want it.
CF-autoroot is pretty much dead, the superSU app is owned by a private company and Chainfire had moved on.
have a read of this
Installation
The Magic Mask for Android
topjohnwu.github.io
this is rooting today, it's very different

3mel said:
google and OEMs have made messing around with the system partition harder, it's read only now and overlays are how edits are mostly done. plus there are more apps that won't run if root is detected, systemless gives you the chance to evade that detection if you want it.
CF-autoroot is pretty much dead, the superSU app is owned by a private company and Chainfire had moved on.
have a read of this
Installation
The Magic Mask for Android
topjohnwu.github.io
this is rooting today, it's very different
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh thanks for the info. Yeah I've definitely used systemless. I did like it but of course there's nothing like doing it yourself. Although I rooted phones back in the day I've also used Magisk though I could've swore I was able to use vi and edit system files that would've been unreadable and definitely unwritable but I'm pretty sure I just changed the mount of whatever it was I was working on from ro to rw with 'mount -o remount,rw /' I'm to lazy to pull up Magisk I think I have it on a tablet somewhere. I probably also changed the file permissions with chmod or chown then chmod but I think there are some files you can't change using systemless now that I think about it hence the name systemless I dunno it's been awhile since I messed around with rooted phones.
After awhile you realize how vulnerable the device is after root and then when you think you can trust these apps that have root access then someone announces they found "_______" app pulling user information... I'm definitely not referring to any apps used anymore but it was the app people used before they used Magisk and it pretty much did the same thing but I wouldn't be surprised if newer root apps did the same.
Wait you said since SDK 22? Was systemless even around then? I don't think it was. I know it's been around for awhile but not that long.
I did find out something pretty funny when this guy was rooting people's phones and he had a contact in China... I was determined to find out who this Chinaman was. Well I don't think I should really say out of respect because he clearly didn't want people to know where he was from but yeah I guess I'll have to keep that to myself but it was pretty funny to say the least.
Also this was before rona so him being from wherever was irrelevant I just wanted to get it cheaper than what everyone else was paying. Turned out to be some old guy and unsurprisingly as you've assumed, not from China, or was he? He actually just unlocks phones and didn't acknowledge I even used the word root, he was thinking "oh no, they've found me."

@Flucker08 I meant since version22 of magisk not SDK22.
rooting with magisk used to be something you could do all from a custom recovery. now you have to download your firmware and patch it with magisk on your phone and then flash the patched image from PC

Hello
Please tell me, if i rooted Samsung s20 FE 5G ( Snapdragon ) can update new Firmware its Odin ? and not lost my all user data ? ( i hope to not must clear ) and rooted again ?
Please write, how to do it ?

after the first time rooting and unlocking the bootloader (so you could root) you wouldn't have to wipe again.
you would download the updated firmware, patch the AP file from your phone same as before and flash the downloaded firmware and patched AP all together in Odin @onken
if you select CSC_home for the CSC partition your user data will not be wiped !!

Hi
Ok, thanks for info @3mel
Please tell me yet, patch the AP i must prepare before flash new update firmware ?

onken said:
Hi
Ok, thanks for info @3mel
Please tell me yet, patch the AP i must prepare before flash new update firmware ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes, you download the update from somewhere. extract the AP file from the archive and copy to the phone. run magisk from the phone and wait till it's finished. copy the patched file back to your computer and use it along with the rest of the firmware files. again for CSC you MUST use the HOME_CSC file and not the regular CSC if you don't want the phone wiped.
that last part only applies when updating the phone, the first time you root you will have to wipe.

onken said:
Hi
Ok, thanks for info @3mel
Please tell me yet, patch the AP i must prepare before flash new update firmware ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is advised against updating after root. If you're on exynos I don't know but snapdragon it will make you lose root and no getting it back. It's said you can do it by removing the boot files from the firmware before flashing but I haven't tried just heard about it. Honestly you should just leave it. You aren't missing out on any amazing features. Most updates are security and if you're root you don't have much anyways.

All ok thanks for advice

3mel said:
yes, you download the update from somewhere. extract the AP file from the archive and copy to the phone. run magisk from the phone and wait till it's finished. copy the patched file back to your computer and use it along with the rest of the firmware files. again for CSC you MUST use the HOME_CSC file and not the regular CSC if you don't want the phone wiped.
that last part only applies when updating the phone, the first time you root you will have to wipe.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi @3mel
If I unlock, install twrp and root with magisk as per afaneh92's method, since I have twrp now, how much will the update method differ from what you mentioned here, if i don't want a wipe. If possible, can you please tell the steps in brief or provide a source? Sorry if this is not the right place for asking this.
I'm on SM-G781B/DS with OneUI 4.1(Android12).

Rooting S10 for Data Retrival ONLY

Hi Guys!
I have spent hours and hours trying to find a solution to my problem and it has lead me here so here goes;
My friend has given me a S10 which has had a factory reset done to it, He is in need of retrieving some documents on there which i believe was written in the notepad. The phone hasnt been touched since the factory reset.
Google had led me to the whole dr.fone software > got cracked version > and like everything i have read the phone has to be rooted
Then i see all these one click softwares like iroot, kingroot etc and really didnt hear to many great things about them and really mixed reviews for dr.fone too.
I guess my question is; If i root my S10 then can i retrieve data from before the reset? And if YES to that > Can the phone then be unrooted and back to normal?
If someone could please lead me to a tutorial, i started reading some but they were talking about custom mod's etc where as i just want ROOT > OLD DATA > PHONE BACK TO NORMAL (if possible) i def do not lack skills, just never touched an android phone before and also if somebody could suggest software to use for the data recovery once rooted.
Thanks Guys, hope y'all can help

[Magisk] Root for the Galaxy S10 Series
Here comes official Magisk support for the Galaxy S10! Let's get Magisk to kick start the development of these Samsung devices! Link to Instructions Carefully read through everything in the page linked above! Follow the instructions closely so...
forum.xda-developers.com
Refer to this.

Question SAMSUNG Galaxy A33

I reside in Africa. I got a Samsung Galaxy A33. I need help/advise. I want to uninstall some inbuilt apps, am unsure if that's the right name for apps that came with the device on setup and I also want to use some apps that requires root.
I know little about rooting and 0% about flashing with magisk but am first at learning, I also know little about flashing with odin.
If there is a way to uninstall system apps and inbuilt apps without having to root or to just root the device temporary, please share that info with me about that kindly.
The device is perfect condition with no software errors, I already know that my warranty will be void if I root or unlock my Samsung a33 bootloader.

Take a look here: https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/