Related
Is anyone successing using the Kaiser with a Slingbox? I have the latest version of the SB Mobile software that is supposed to run on WM6 but it's very unstable and crashes constantly. I did determine that running Wisbar Advanced would make it crash every time it tried to connect, but shutting that down before starting the program only slightly improved it's stability. I generally can connect and watch video, but any menu options will crash it, as will trying to disconnect and connect again. The Slingbox folks are no help at all, they say the Tilt is not a supported phone (what the heck is WM6 support supposed to mean then??) I'm using the stock HTC ROM, nothing custom or fancy that should be causing problems.
I have a Kaiser/unlocked TyTN II. Works fine for me. There have been some with browser proxy issues. Do a search on this forum for details.
Works great on my Tilt and has from day 1. Try a hard reset and only install SP mobile to isolate your issue. It's likely another piece of software causing the problem.
jomo25 said:
I have a Kaiser/unlocked TyTN II. Works fine for me. There have been some with browser proxy issues. Do a search on this forum for details.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did search the forum for any comments on sling player, but didn't find much more than a couple mentions of it, only person mentioning a problem was on a thread about the WIMP GPS tracking program. Not sure what you are referring to about a browser proxy issue, what browser?
URPREY said:
Works great on my Tilt and has from day 1. Try a hard reset and only install SP mobile to isolate your issue. It's likely another piece of software causing the problem.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Aggh, I have been through so many stinking hard resets with this device so far, I just can't stand wasting yet another day trying to reinstall everything *again*. It just seems like every program I attempt to put on it causes something else to break. And I've tried very hard to only install stuff that is stated to work for WM6. But no matter, I have these constant issues all the time. If it's not crashes, it's email failing to check or alarms not going off, or the time not updating properly or whatever. It's really getting frustrating, why is it so freaking hard for Microsoft to write an OS that *works*?! Between Window Mobile and Vista, it's a wonder that more people haven't jumped ship at this point.
Wow, sorry it's been so agro. I can say that I have one of the first out Kaisers, running Sling Mobile and a slew of other progs, Wimp, iGuidance, Google Maps, MS Live, ContactsCM, PocketInformant, JournalBar, and my SlingBox has never hung. I've not hard reset yet and seldom soft reset. So I know that it can work, you need to start out with a fresh install and add 1 thing a time till you find the problem progs. One of them is messing with you, and unfortunately you've got to find it, one fricking app at a time.
Well, hard-resetting did make the SlingPlayer run flawlessly. I've been slowing adding stuff back on over the last day but have yet to run into whatever it was that was causing the problem. I was hoping it would be something obvious, so I could just restore from backup and not have to spend a lot of time on this, but of course, I couldn't be that lucky and have to put hours of work into it....
I tend to back up a lot as I add apps and test (I prefer SBP Backup), kinda like setting restore points in windows, just in case that last straw app trashes things. Seems the shell progs cause the most issues.
I generally do as well...in this case though the last app I installed *was* the Slingbox Player, so going back to earlier backups wouldn't necessarily save me any time.
I see, I always load Sling 1st then Core player and go from there.
My slingbox wasn't currently connected and running, so I hadn't bothered to download and load the mobile player yet. I don't even have it registered yet, as on my old phone, I never got a good enough connection to get much use out of it. It definitely flies on this phone though!
I'm beginning to wonder if it was simply the order of install that made the difference, as I have all but a couple things reinstalled and it still is working fine. Had one lock-up yesterday from trying to go to fullscreen and back again, but it's definitely far more stable than I was getting before.
I must say as well, this player really blows any other internet TV options out the window! The playback quality really is awesome and being able to watch my own favorite shows at any time is so cool. I never got a ton of use from the Slingbox in the past because a lot of times when I travel I just didn't have access to a good high-speed connection, I'm glad I will finally really be getting some good use out of it. Only problem is that I have the classic model that has these crappy mini-jack inputs with input only (no video pass-through) and I don't have enough outputs on my Tivo as a result to connect everything that I use at once. So I'm trying to decide if it's worth paying to upgrade to a new Slingbox or not. I would guess that the Slingbox Solo would also do a better job with all the HD stuff and correct the aspect a bit better (with the classic, the image is always a bit squished).
Well, haven't quite solved my Sling Player Mobile issues. It seems to work fine over 3G, but crashes every time if I try to connect over my home Wifi connection. Anyone else seeing this? I'd prefer to use the Wifi when available to not overuse the phone service too much (not sure if AT&T really is monitoring this, but no point in testing it if I don't have to!)
maryjos said:
It's really getting frustrating, why is it so freaking hard for Microsoft to write an OS that *works*?! Between Window Mobile and Vista, it's a wonder that more people haven't jumped ship at this point.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is easy to point the finger at Microsoft but the fact is that your problems are almost certainly caused by one or more applications you installed which were not well written and are causing resource conflicts.
You may recall a few years ago when Microsoft went to a signed driver model. Lots of people complained about it, especially companies that produce hardware. But what did we get for it? Fewer crashes and resource conflicts caused by driver incompatabilities. If the mobile world would develop some standards in development and testing the problems you are seeing would become less frequent and easier to resolve.
Is Microsoft perfect? HA! Far from it. But make sure you are pointing the finger at the real culprit.
jcleek said:
It is easy to point the finger at Microsoft but the fact is that your problems are almost certainly caused by one or more applications you installed which were not well written and are causing resource conflicts
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, but this I feel is just a convenient excuse. Yes, you can occasionally run into a really badly written app that causes problems, but I'm talking about constant issues, and I am using all programs that are very mainstream and heavily used by many other PPC users. I used Palm devices for many years and never had the kinds of problems I've had with Windows Mobile devices. And these are problems it's had for YEARS. My very first Pocket PC device (HP Jornada) many years ago had issues with waking up and sounding alarms. Here I am years later, and this *still* is a problem. Look at all the people complaining about the device not waking up to check email. You really want to try and say it's due to something else they have installed that's causing the problem? Come on.
Can I ask a question to you guys about what sort of frames per second you are getting. I am sitting here with my TYTN 2 getting about 8 FPS on Hsdpa full signal. Any thoughts on why the FPS might be so low?.
Many thanks.
Matt.
I have had a look about on the net and the seetings that seem to be the best are 65 bitrate ,full FPS, 30 iframe. I am now getting a good 24 FPS. I hope this helps someone.
Matt.
maryjos said:
Sorry, but this I feel is just a convenient excuse. Yes, you can occasionally run into a really badly written app that causes problems, but I'm talking about constant issues, and I am using all programs that are very mainstream and heavily used by many other PPC users. I used Palm devices for many years and never had the kinds of problems I've had with Windows Mobile devices. And these are problems it's had for YEARS. My very first Pocket PC device (HP Jornada) many years ago had issues with waking up and sounding alarms. Here I am years later, and this *still* is a problem. Look at all the people complaining about the device not waking up to check email. You really want to try and say it's due to something else they have installed that's causing the problem? Come on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am Sorry, that YOU loaded something that didn't come with your product and it broke.
Out of the Box my Tilt checks email. Vanilla JUST about everything works as advertised. Does the Tilt have bugs ? Sure everything has bugs.
Using a password and coming out of suspend the back-light is DIM. Completely unreadable in sunlight. Not an OS issue as other WM6 devices didn't have this problem.
Microsoft has a responsibility to make this OS robust. I think they have come along way since 2003, WM5, moving toward WM6. As for Palm there have been multiple version of their OS mostly geared toward PDA's.
Every OS has issues thats why we get new versions.
If I load something that isn't from Microsoft and it breaks, how is that a WM6 fault ? All blame aside do you really expect Microsoft (or anyone else) to regression test every possible version and combination of application out there so YOU will be happy. I am guessing here but I don't believe Microsoft will show up and fix it, nor will HTC. YOU get to fix it
Slingplayer isn't perfect. There have been multiple versions since the beta all aimed at refining their product.
I use it, and like it, so much so that if an app breaks Slingplayer I remove that app not Slingplayer. Others may feel the same way about a Wishbar or an SPB product. If an application is considered CORE that should go in first warts and all.
I installed Microsoft Live search with beta voice support. Cool app like Google maps. It locked up my device hard, twice, and I had to stylus reset to recover. Was it this beta or something else that didnt play nice? I removed the 'not ready for prime time' search application and all is well.
Any application that hooks API's and interrupts in an attempt to supplement and extend functionality is suspect.
That Tilt is a very complex little product. If you are striving to improve its functionality beyond what came in the box, it will be up to you to strike a balance as to what works for you.
Frustrating, at times....
Fun, it can be. I didn't spend hundreds of dollars to be eternally pissed off.
And when it stops being fun and or productive maybe a different OS or closed venue like the iPhone might be a better way to go.
These forums are here to help. We are trying to look for solutions to make these products as cool as they can be.
notrhj said:
I am Sorry, that YOU loaded something that didn't come with your product and it broke.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow, you must be some kind of magician to just come to that conclusion. I have had PPC devices that did NOT work as advertised out of the box. My last one never was able to properly connect with Wifi. I did a hard reset all the way back to nothing but the core apps and it still had problems. The manufacturer blamed it on my router (even though my laptop and Palm device previously had no issues) but I still went out and got another router...and still had problems.
Out of the Box my Tilt checks email.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Gee, aren't you lucky then. The fact that it works for you does not therefore mean it works for everyone else, particularly since there are many different types of email servers that it needs to connect properly to. With the HTC home app running and nothing else whatsoever installed on my Tilt, I had issues with it checking email.
Microsoft has a responsibility to make this OS robust.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly...and from where I stand, they've not made as much progress in this area as they need to.
If I load something that isn't from Microsoft and it breaks, how is that a WM6 fault ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As you JUST said above, they have a responsibility to make the OS robust. If it was a matter of a single app causing a problem, that's one thing. But it's not, it's a problem with the Windows Mobile platform. How many times do you see on this forum people told they will need to hard-reset their device because of a problem? That's just absurd. If I had to reformat my desktop every time it started misbehaving because of something new I installed, I'd be up in arms!
All blame aside do you really expect Microsoft (or anyone else) to regression test every possible version and combination of application out there so YOU will be happy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is just an absurd statement. I don't expect them to regression test every combination of apps on Windows XP, but I also expect if I install something it's not going to bring my entire system to a crashing halt. But even if it does, on those very rare occasions if you are using legitimate software, at least I have a system restore point to get my device back to a working state, or can boot into safe mode to remove the offending program, etc. Where is the similar type of functionality for Windows Mobile?? Oh, I have to get a 3rd party app like Sprite Backup for that kind of thing. Of course, I had issues with that crashing on me as well (only some of the backup options work).
Slingplayer isn't perfect. There have been multiple versions since the beta all aimed at refining their product.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I've gone as far as hard-resetting the device and installing ONLY SlingPlayer and it still crashed on me when trying to connect over Wifi. So who do I blame for that one? If I have nothing else on my device other than the core apps and SlingPlayer and it still doesn't work for me and it works for other people, what then??
maryjos said:
Well, I've gone as far as hard-resetting the device and installing ONLY SlingPlayer and it still crashed on me when trying to connect over Wifi. So who do I blame for that one? If I have nothing else on my device other than the core apps and SlingPlayer and it still doesn't work for me and it works for other people, what then??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So you've had issues with WM devices connecting via Wifi before? Does it work on someone else's Wifi network?
Which version of Slingplayer are you using? When you say it crashes, does it actually crash or just closes itself?
Also, the HTC Home plugin should have zero effect on checking email.
You can blame the software/hardware, but I don't think there are any other users having so many unique issues. Maybe WM isn't for you?
Ordered HD7 should have in a few days.
I got the Tmobile version if that makes a difference.
1. Do the apps purchased in market for HD2 be compatible with HD7?
2. Does HD7 have the ability to act as a wifi router like the HD2 does?
3. Do they use the same charging plug?
Thank you to who ever provides answers and not flame.
I have sat here over and hour reading these threads, not clear answers to what I am asking.
I do wish some one would do a feature by feature comparison of the two phones. I got this one simply because I am tired of the lag and problems with my HD2. I know we can flash roms and all that, not to my skills or time frame, i need a phone that the developers provide what every phone should have, if this one does not offer that, then back to nokia we go .
Thank you again.
Hi,
1: No it is a completely different marketplace and apps for Windows Mobile 6.5 are not compatible with Windows Phone 7.
2: No, at the moment you cannot use the phone as a Wifi Router although that may be possible in the future.
3: I'm not too sure, the HD7 uses a micro USB port. From what I've seen it appears that the HD2 uses micro as well but I can't be sure.
If you're looking for a phone that Just works, then Windows Phone 7 is the way to go. No ROM flashes or tweaking to get it better as it's all good out of the box.
Enjoy it!
Thank you, but not good news.
I take it that the windows 7 app market is probably much smaller.
I use the wifi router feature all the time when at clients locations and need to get on line with my lap top. This is a major problem, do you know if it can be used via usb and 3G?
Thank you again.
rysky007 said:
Thank you, but not good news.
I take it that the windows 7 app market is probably much smaller.
I use the wifi router feature all the time when at clients locations and need to get on line with my lap top. This is a major problem, do you know if it can be used via usb and 3G?
Thank you again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no it can not be used to tether at this time. Only for the lg and samsung has tethering been figured out. The phone is capable of it, you just have to get into a hidden menu that has not been found on the htc hd7 yet.
uhhh, the wp7 marketplace already has over 2k apps the first month...
nrfitchett4 said:
no it can not be used to tether at this time. Only for the lg and samsung has tethering been figured out. The phone is capable of it, you just have to get into a hidden menu that has not been found on the htc hd7 yet.
uhhh, the wp7 marketplace already has over 2k apps the first month...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where do you see them on line? went to WM7 site, only showed me about 100 apps or so, maybe I am looking at wrong area.
Any idea of a time line or has any one heard of when we will be able to use the wifi router feature on this phone? without this feature, the phone becomes useless to me for work
rysky007 said:
Where do you see them on line? went to WM7 site, only showed me about 100 apps or so, maybe I am looking at wrong area.
Any idea of a time line or has any one heard of when we will be able to use the wifi router feature on this phone? without this feature, the phone becomes useless to me for work
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://www.bing.com/browse?g=wp7#toc=0
Thank you.
I wanted the Note to begin with but went with the S2. I'm in the process of selling my S2 now on CL. I have a few questions first:
1. How's the GPS?
2. ANy issues with AT&T(i assume I can just pop my AT&T SIM in and be good to go).
3. Do market apps work fine with the Notes big screen or do they look crappy because they weren't meant for a large screen?
4. How's every one generally liking the phone? How is it to make calls on (holding up to ones face not via BT).
Info is needed:
I'm on a unlimited 4G plan with AT&T (already using the S2 now) <-----not sure if this matters
Anything else would be excellent. Thanks again guys. Looking to get this then throw a ROM on for speed, remove bloat, tethering (should already be unlocked since not a carrier version) and cleanness.
I have found that it works EXACTLY like the GSII. The screen has one more row for shortcuts.
You'll not notice any difference, other than the enormous size difference. I have huge hands, so the size doesn't matter to me. It's actually quite comfortable.
I just hope some better cases come out for it. There is nothing but crap available now.
Thank you for your thoughts on the device. I'm looking to get one ASAP. Espically since that and the S2 will get ICS in Q1 2012. I know the international versions will get it much quicker then the carrier (AT&T, etc) locked down versions.
GPS is best on the market, literally. its using a new setup that allows for access to many more satellites and locks on better than most dedicated GPS units.
apps are hit and miss. some scale fully, some dont scale at all. theres an app to resize apps though.
i dont use BT when i make calls. its a good sized phone. only downside is that there is a fair bit of leakage out of the earpiece, ie. people around you can often hear both sides of the conversation.
Souai said:
GPS is best on the market, literally. its using a new setup that allows for access to many more satellites and locks on better than most dedicated GPS units.
apps are hit and miss. some scale fully, some dont scale at all. theres an app to resize apps though.
i dont use BT when i make calls. its a good sized phone. only downside is that there is a fair bit of leakage out of the earpiece, ie. people around you can often hear both sides of the conversation.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What is the app that resizes? Does the resizing make it look distorted? How's the facebook app and other common ones like tapatalk, etc
Gary86 said:
What is the app that resizes? Does the resizing make it look distorted? How's the facebook app and other common ones like tapatalk, etc
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Facebook and TapaTalk both work great. No issues whatsoever. I have not seen any rendering issues at all. There have been a few apps that won't download because they say they don't work on a tablet. The phone shows up as a tablet in the Android Market.
Gary86 said:
I wanted the Note to begin with but went with the S2. I'm in the process of selling my S2 now on CL. I have a few questions first:
1. How's the GPS?
2. ANy issues with AT&T(i assume I can just pop my AT&T SIM in and be good to go).
3. Do market apps work fine with the Notes big screen or do they look crappy because they weren't meant for a large screen?
4. How's every one generally liking the phone? How is it to make calls on (holding up to ones face not via BT).
Info is needed:
I'm on a unlimited 4G plan with AT&T (already using the S2 now) <-----not sure if this matters
Anything else would be excellent. Thanks again guys. Looking to get this then throw a ROM on for speed, remove bloat, tethering (should already be unlocked since not a carrier version) and cleanness.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
GPS is Fantastic! Better than the SGSII. ( I had SGSII for 3 weeks and also have a skyrocket) I routinely get a lock INSIDE my house!
You can pop your ATT SIM in but you must configure the APN for Data and MMS.
I have downloaded about 20 (not finished yet) apps to my GNote and they all look fine!
I have only made calls with bluetooth. I have not held to my ear yet except at home. It seems a bit large to do that. My skyrocket is crap with bluetooth but the GNote has been great with my car.
I do not like swipe or the samsung keyboard. Had to download the gingerbread keyboard. I have used several but keep coming back to that one.
Typing is 1000 time easier and better. For the life of me I could not type accurately type on the SGSII...
The screen resolution will blow you away! Watch that video that comes on it! WOW! There is no bloat as with ATT.
I do not know if ATT can detect the tether or not? When I log on to my ATT account it does not show the phone I am using. Does anyone know for sure?
Gary86 said:
I wanted the Note to begin with but went with the S2. I'm in the process of selling my S2 now on CL. I have a few questions first:
1. How's the GPS?
2. ANy issues with AT&T(i assume I can just pop my AT&T SIM in and be good to go).
3. Do market apps work fine with the Notes big screen or do they look crappy because they weren't meant for a large screen?
4. How's every one generally liking the phone? How is it to make calls on (holding up to ones face not via BT).
Info is needed:
I'm on a unlimited 4G plan with AT&T (already using the S2 now) <-----not sure if this matters
Anything else would be excellent. Thanks again guys. Looking to get this then throw a ROM on for speed, remove bloat, tethering (should already be unlocked since not a carrier version) and cleanness.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. The GPS is fantastic! It literally outperforms anything else I have ever used, including dedicated stand-alone GPS units.
2. There was initially an issue with AT&T where a particular range of Note IMEI's were being erroneously detected as a tablet device on the system. This issue seems to have been resolved. Even then, not every Note is/was affected anyway. The only other thing I can recommend (apart from configuring the correct APN's, which you can find throughout this forum) is to disable Fast Dormancy. Enter *#*#9900#*#* from your dialer and disable that feature from the menu that pops up. Basically it's a feature that AT&T doesn't use, and disabling it on your Note will vastly improve data speed and reliability.
3. So far I haven't had any issues with apps. Everything I've used looks fine so far.
4. Generally I'm loving the Note. There are a couple of minor (for me anyway) niggles. Mainly, it definitely is a big laggier than the SGS2, but not to the point where it's a deal breaker for me. The lag can mostly be attributed to software for now, but I expect these issues will mostly be solved when ICS is released for it. In the mean time, using SPB Shell 3D in tablet mode instead of TouchWiz has worked wonders. The side button on the s-pen is a little difficult to find just by feeling around for it, but that can be alleviated by etching a # pattern with a razor blade onto the button, giving it just a little more texture. As for actual call quality, honestly it's the clearest and best sounding call quality I have ever heard on a phone, period. Even better than most wired phones I've used!
---------- Post added at 09:07 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:35 AM ----------
planoman said:
I do not like swipe or the samsung keyboard. Had to download the gingerbread keyboard. I have used several but keep coming back to that one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Totally agree! Been using the Gingerbread keyboard since my old Captivate, and even on tablets! By far my favourite keyboard!
planoman said:
I do not know if ATT can detect the tether or not? When I log on to my ATT account it does not show the phone I am using. Does anyone know for sure?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, considering that our unlocked devices are free of any AT&T bloatware or other intrusiveware that would otherwise report the specific use of our own equipment, I'm willing to bet that the only way AT&T would be able to detect that we're tethering is to perform deep packet inspection in order to determine the kind of traffic going through the device. I have tethered with both my old unlocked SGS2 and now my Note using only the stock Android tethering ability with no issues. However, I would recommend that you tether only when absolutely necessary and not abuse it, lest you risk being spotted by the Evil Eye of Sauron. Basically, as long as you don't draw unnecessary attention to yourself, you should be fine.
Hi everyone,
Long time reader, first time poster. This website really is the best source for all your galaxy needs. I learned how to root my first Android, a galaxy S4 here. Anyways, I'm here because I have scoured the internet trying to find a certain ROM that it seems no one has made.
I have a Galaxy S6 Active. recently, I lost service with AT&T, and I want to install a custom ROM on it. Here's the things though. This is no longer an AT&T phone. I don't care about KNOX, or if I can make or receive phone calls on it. I want to turn it into smething completely different. Linux OS, perhaps. Just an external hard drive. If I had to put a name on what I'm trying to find, it would be "NFC device with bluetooth and WIFI capabilities". I hope I'm explaining myself clearly. It's no longer a phone to me, but a blank canvas I can tweak and morph into something completely new.
Lmao good luck. Root.bounty @ $1550
ThegoLopez said:
Hi everyone,
Long time reader, first time poster. This website really is the best source for all your galaxy needs. I learned how to root my first Android, a galaxy S4 here. Anyways, I'm here because I have scoured the internet trying to find a certain ROM that it seems no one has made.
I have a Galaxy S6 Active. recently, I lost service with AT&T, and I want to install a custom ROM on it. Here's the things though. This is no longer an AT&T phone. I don't care about KNOX, or if I can make or receive phone calls on it. I want to turn it into smething completely different. Linux OS, perhaps. Just an external hard drive. If I had to put a name on what I'm trying to find, it would be "NFC device with bluetooth and WIFI capabilities". I hope I'm explaining myself clearly. It's no longer a phone to me, but a blank canvas I can tweak and morph into something completely new.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Take some time to use the "search" function :') there is no root for this phone so your stuck with Stock rom until root is available
ryanraven said:
Take some time to use the "search" function :') there is no root for this phone so your stuck with Stock rom until root is available
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Trust me, I did. There are so many cool ROMS out there. I guess what I'm not understanding is....well... why?
So, a cell phone (if you can even call it that any more, lol) is a piece of hardware with software on it. If I remove ALL of the software from it, Everything... even ODIN. Aren't I left with something similar to a laptop with a formatted hard drive?Can't I put something like an MBR on it and start from scratch? That's what I'm looking for. Not some program that can simulate kit kat or lollipop. I want something that will wipe it down to where all I see on the screen is a flashing C:\
ThegoLopez said:
Trust me, I did. There are so many cool ROMS out there. I guess what I'm not understanding is....well... why?
So, a cell phone (if you can even call it that any more, lol) is a piece of hardware with software on it. If I remove ALL of the software from it, Everything... even ODIN. Aren't I left with something similar to a laptop with a formatted hard drive?Can't I put something like an MBR on it and start from scratch? That's what I'm looking for. Not some program that can simulate kit kat or lollipop. I want something that will wipe it down to where all I see on the screen is a flashing C:\
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think you understand how these phones work, you could indeed somehow wipe all the partition of the phone in Odin which if you didn't know isn't part of the phone but a computer program, but if your clever enough to build an OS by yourself to run on the phone then Thumbs Up! & you'd need to unlock the phones bootloader and have very expensive hardware and software to even get into this phone, your idea is good but impossible sorry to burst your bubble my friend.
ryanraven said:
I don't think you understand how these phones work, you could indeed somehow wipe all the partition of the phone in Odin which if you didn't know isn't part of the phone but a computer program, but if your clever enough to build an OS by yourself to run on the phone then Thumbs Up! & you'd need to unlock the phones bootloader and have very expensive hardware and software to even get into this phone, your idea is good but impossible sorry to burst your bubble my friend.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
mind=blown. OK, so that is something I was not aware of. So, to try and understand it better, that is like me trying to login to my laptop's BIOS and it having password protection that only Dell knows the code to?
ThegoLopez said:
mind=blown. OK, so that is something I was not aware of. So, to try and understand it better, that is like me trying to login to my laptop's BIOS and it having password protection that only Dell knows the code to?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, pretty much. Except in this case, it's both Samsung and AT&T's business agreements that have it locked down. Until someone cracks it, or they unlock it, we're all in a holding pattern.
chrisliphart said:
Y...it's both Samsung and AT&T's business agreements that have it locked down. Until someone cracks it, or they unlock it...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, big business definitely has us at their mercy. Plus I heard a rumor that the guy who unlocked the previous bootloader now works for them.
So, how would one, with only ODIN, a USB cable, an internet connection, and alot of time on their hands, go about trying to unlock this bootloader? I mean, I know there are many people out there who are WAY more qualified than me and have way better equipment. But, hey, I could do it. I'm coming into this with no frame of reference or previous experience. Meaning I have the ability to see the problem from a perspective that no one ever has before. Who knows... and I can't fail if I never even try
Even the Android Auto for phone screens was retired for Android 12, you can still use it on old Androids 11, 10. A month ago a message appear "Android Auto for phone screens will stop working soon", but still can use it.
Today I tried to start the app and instead appear the Android Auto settings page and no more Android Auto for phone screens. I have Miui 12.5.7 with Android 11 and Android Auto 7.6.621734-release.
Its only me or they kill out AAFPS for good?
For me the same...
Android Auto is now on the scrap heap; in short it will no longer work as a stand-alone.
Google have thrown a kill-switch (2 days ago now) for discrete mode so that now, it can only work in screen-mirroring mode which necessitates a compatible infotainment system/head unit (check the message it opens with).
The official alternative on offer is Driving Mode in the Google Assistant. It's of dubious quality, especially for devices older than Android 10, where it really is just a shortcut to Google Maps.
Alternative apps/launchers are available but they are either expensive or just plain rubbish (and often both).
I'm sorry to hear this is confirmed. So no more Android Auto, I don't have a compatible infotainment system/head unit.
Driving Mode in the Google Assistant is a just simple no-go. Here in Romania we use a lot Waze for police report, traffic jams and bad roads. Also since romanian language is not supported , you can spell some small commands in english, but to convince it to drive you at address or even to call your mom is very difficult.
So now I'm without alternative .
triovi said:
...So no more Android Auto, I don't have a compatible infotainment system/head unit...
...So now I'm without alternative .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Indeed - and you are not alone as many reviews on Google Play confirm.
One other option is to roll-back to an older version. If you don't have a backup then APKMirror might be for you:-
Android Auto on APKMirror
FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
If you do try this, then be sure and disable auto-update for it in Google Play...
xanda-escuyer said:
FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
If you do try this, then be sure and disable auto-update for it in Google Play...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll give it a try: my Renault Megane is half destroyed and now I have to use (for long time) a Seat Leon without AA enabled!
I've started AA on my old (but still running fine) Motorola Moto G5 and is not working anymore... Problem is that the phone is running Android 8.1 so Drive Assistant is not available (it needs at least Android 9!)
xanda-escuyer said:
FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
GCalzo said:
I'll give it a try
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
on my pc I had a few backups, I have removed the current build and installed Android Auto_7.2.620123-release and it worked flawlessly!
I'll look for a more recent build on APKmirror!
Addendum: tried with v7.6 but got the advice. For my Android v8.1 the last working is v7.2!
Thank you for this thread!
This has been nagging me more than usual as AA for Phone Screens was something I've used daily. (strong feedback sent to google, not that it will do any good)
Tried with app version 7.3.620544 on Android 11 and I can launch it a few times, all good and functional. But after a few hours an internal update seems to check the installed and Play store versions, preventing me from starting the application without updating. So reinstall APK again. (a hassle)
Tried creating a re-signed version with Android Studio to block auto-updates, but the re-signed APK install itself is blocked due to signature mismatch - even after uninstalling for user 0. I fear this might be only possible with rooting the phone...
I would very much appreciate any other non-root option to get this functioning again. Curse you google for ruining google.
I also tried to modify the apk.
I was not successful. Therefore I gave up...
Google are literally murderers , besides all the people they have stranded or driven of the road or over ravines with their crappy maps app
they have probably killed thousands in traffic accidents with their garbage software
,this new "driving mode" is no exception , I mean AA was an absolute out of control garbage fire just like GA is but this "driving mode" is over the top
even for the complete morons over at Google.
I can not tell you how many accidents I have almost got into since they removed trusted voice unlock and now that this POS driving mode has replaced AA it has gotten MUCH worse, they should be sued for this dangerous crap they have forced on us, I will NOT be buying another pixel EVER.
fist of all this POS continually turns the screen off and locks the device forcing me to unlock the phone continuously while driving,
they are so S all stupid they didn't even bother to make it rotate to landscape mode and my car mount is for landscape only. (only people who hold their guns sideways would want to use their phones in portrait mode as they always seem to do when taking word star videos)
the "driving mode" is pure trash ,there are no audio controls, you can't use it if you just want to listen to music and for phone calls because it's tied to maps and you have be using navigation to use it.
there is NOTHING here of any value I mean who TF wants to read the New York Slimes, ever and especially WHILE DRIVING, yeah great replacement to music apps and music controls.
There is no way in hell I would ever give these evil bastards my biometric data so here I am trying to unlock my phone with a pattern every 30 seconds while it is mounted landscape and the unlock pattern is in portrait mode, I have to tilt my head or try and figure out my lock pattern adjusted for it being tilted 90 degree off while I'm driving every 30 seconds because the screen keeps turning off and locking the device even though I have "smartlock" (DUMBlock) enabled and my cars bluetooth added as a "trusted device" as well as a smart band, but it just seems to ignore the fact both are connected.
how in the actual F do any of these imbecilic A holes still have jobs, every single last one of them should have been kicked the F out on their arses a long time ago. , maybe we need to get Elon over there.
SOFO888 said:
I also tried to modify the apk.
I was not successful. Therefore I gave up...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
please don't give up and keep trying other wise I am switching back to IOS, I just can't deal with this S
maybe I can throw away my pixel 3a XL and just go back to my old 6p on Nougat
this is not acceptable, what other options are there, I have an echo auto I never set up maybe that will be better.
peetig said:
Thank you for this thread!
This has been nagging me more than usual as AA for Phone Screens was something I've used daily. (strong feedback sent to google, not that it will do any good)
Tried with app version 7.3.620544 on Android 11 and I can launch it a few times, all good and functional. But after a few hours an internal update seems to check the installed and Play store versions, preventing me from starting the application without updating. So reinstall APK again. (a hassle)
Tried creating a re-signed version with Android Studio to block auto-updates, but the re-signed APK install itself is blocked due to signature mismatch - even after uninstalling for user 0. I fear this might be only possible with rooting the phone...
I would very much appreciate any other non-root option to get this functioning again. Curse you google for ruining google.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
F it, I am just going to throw away my pixel and go back to IOS
I am F ing done , removal of trusted voice unlock was bad enough but this is the last straw.
My idea is to install an alternative launcher as soon as you are connected to your car's Bluetooth system. I mean a launcher made for driving with big icons and so on.
With tasker you could additionally make a task to increase the display timeout to infinite when connected to your car's Bluetooth system.
gdroid666 said:
F it, I am just going to throw away my pixel and go back to IOS
I am F ing done , removal of trusted voice unlock was bad enough but this is the last straw.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Goodbye.
gdroid666 said:
how in the actual F do any of these imbecilic A holes still have jobs,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because they have done exactly what The Chocolate Factory wants.
Android Auto was quite good in the past but then they realised a serious problem: It hurts sales.
So the aim then became to make everybody sick of it by degrees, breaking it a piece at a time until expectations reduce to the point the user base ebbs away.
So what's in it for them? Google are betting that Android's 'popularity' will oblige most of us to seek an alternative - but only if works with their device; that means buying a new infotainment system - one that is either Android Auto or stand-alone Android.
Google and OEMs (JVC, Kenwood, Pioneer etc) now have another major market cornered and if they have done their math right, all of us switching over will mean a windfall of revenue in new hardware sales and licence fees.
As for looking for a launcher, well good luck with that. We've tried several but not one has the ability to switch between driving and phone mode.
These two probably represent the best of what's left but again, neither is properly polished even for the paid versions:-
DashDroid on Google Play
AutoMate on Google Play
Failing that, get a TomTom!
gdroid666 said:
maybe we need to get Elon over there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh please no - anything but that - no no no no....
xanda-escuyer said:
Because they have done exactly what The Chocolate Factory wants.
Android Auto was quite good in the past but then they realised a serious problem: It hurts sales.
So the aim then became to make everybody sick of it by degrees, breaking it a piece at a time until expectations reduce to the point the user base ebbs away.
So what's in it for them? Google are betting that Android's 'popularity' will oblige most of us to seek an alternative - but only if works with their device; that means buying a new infotainment system - one that is either Android Auto or stand-alone Android.
Google and OEMs (JVC, Kenwood, Pioneer etc) now have another major market cornered and if they have done their math right, all of us switching over will mean a windfall of revenue in new hardware sales and licence fees.
As for looking for a launcher, well good luck with that. We've tried several but not one has the ability to switch between driving and phone mode.
These two probably represent the best of what's left but again, neither is properly polished even for the paid versions:-
DashDroid on Google Play
AutoMate on Google Play
Failing that, get a TomTom!
Oh please no - anything but that - no no no no....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thing is most cars don't have it still
the stand alone android units just suck because they don't have any connection method unless they use your phone as a hotspot , unless they have some with sim cards, but now sim cards are being phased out too, and I would not spend more money a month just to keep my head unit connected to GSM
I would buy a head unit if they made one that had wireless android auto baked in but there are none, at least not what I want, I want one for my BMW E46 that looks pretty close to stock, Android head units like that are a dime a dozen for this thing but none of them have AA or wireless AA
,what they should really make is a tablet that has wireless AA built in
or a fire tablet that acts as an echo show auto but with a screen
that you can mount to your dash ,sucks that all the hardware has been there to this for like a decade but because of theese big cancer monopolies we can't use the hardware to its full potential
I have yet to try reloaded yet but I have feeling it will not be good
but here is no reason this can't run on low end tablet like a fire tablet
maybe I will finally get around to trying out my echo auto that I picked up for $20 that has been sitting here not even unboxed for over a year now
thing is that my grom unit is a PITA to pair to my phone , you need to pull 3 different fuses to erase it and repair a new device and then once you do the feature that send the ID4 tags to the display on the radio might not work then you have to pair it all over agian , I am wondering if echo auto will send the track data to the grom and if it will display on the stock radio display like it does with the phone , then maybe I will just ditch GA altogether
its a horrible trash fire anyways , if Amazon made a fire phone again with hands free Alexa baked in I would buy it in hearbeat, anything to get rid of GA
mike.s said:
Goodbye.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah ok ,see ya, I was thinking about buying a 7 pro but not now
F Google , I will NEVER buy another phone from them until they bring back trusted voice unlock and make their phones useable while driving
android is a nothing but a trash fire now, mainly because GA just sucks now
doesn't work while driving , doesn't work with hands free at all not even while using buds, unacceptable trash OS and very dangerous to use while driving people will die in accidents because of Googles moronic decisions and negligence, again F Google I'm out.
gdroid666 said:
Yeah ok ,see ya,..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Many of us share your frustration and of course, you are at liberty to try alternatives if you think they are better.
Yet this is primarily a help thread and some would say your 'questions' had been answered before you even posted. So please bear in mind that 'going-off on one' does dilute the thread; making it harder for others to find the help they need as it becomes buried in the noise.
Good luck in your quest...
xanda-escuyer said:
Many of us share your frustration and of course, you are at liberty to try alternatives if you think they are better.
Yet this is primarily a help thread and some would say your 'questions' had been answered before you even posted. So please bear in mind that 'going-off on one' does dilute the thread; making it harder for others to find the help they need as it becomes buried in the noise.
Good luck in your quest...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes everything Google does frustrates me, these people are absolutely obtuse
ok so do you have any suggestions for alternatives?
maybe there is a 3rd party app?
I have a Grom bluetooth unit and they have an app called dashlinq but I have not tried it yet
not sure how it will work with Google assistant
so are there any other 3rd party apps that do essentially the same thing as AA?
not sure if this dashlinq app uses GA or not or if it has it's own voice recognition.
I am surprised that there is not a way to keep using AA though as there is with Google play music ,which you can stil use if you have the right legacy version installed despite its replacement with YT music.
I am still confident there is a way, and also a bit confused
on weather it is going to work on my phone still since I have not updated past Android 11 , guess I will try installing some older .apk's and see if it is only not working anymore on Android 12.
gdroid666 said:
I'm out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You keep saying that.