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Sorry for posting this here, but I couldn't really find a suitable place since most of the Android action is right here.
These past weeks I've noticed an increase of irrelevant threads and clutter being made in regards to Android development in the HTC Dream forum and every other Android development forum on xda. A lot of Android devices out on the market now are not made by HTC. This of course is causing a problem since this forum is for HTC devices only.
Maybe it would be a good idea if a new forum was created that accounts for all native Android devices (Motorola Droid/Milestone, Motorola Cliq/Dext, Samsung Galaxy, etc...). That way, a lot of the clutter would surely be resolved and a considerate load would be taken off of this server (Gotta hate the horrible load on xda these days...).
I'm sure there are quiet a few people on here that have an HTC device and are fully satisfied with it (Me included!). That doesn't mean that everyone else has to feel the same way. People that choose to go with Samsung, Motorola, etc. for their next Android device should not be left out. That's why I believe there should definitely be a forum that serves everyone.
To put up a new forum specifically for this matter takes no time at all, but it does take participation. So if you feel like this is something you would like to see, please feel free to leave a comment.
What are you're opinions on this matter? Agree? Disagree?
Discuss.
EDIT: If there's enough people interested in this project, would there be anyone willing to help getting things started in terms of hosting space or something similar?
my thoughts are that the few changes that have been recently made should help if they are utilized. now we have a forum for general android development for devs, and the rom releases are in the device specific forums. Here was my idea, but i think they made the right choice. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4795376&postcount=1
jaaronmoody said:
my thoughts are that the few changes that have been recently made should help if they are utilized. now we have a forum for general android development for devs, and the rom releases are in the device specific forums. Here was my idea, but i think they made the right choice. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4795376&postcount=1
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It's a start. But I don't think xda is going to put up more sub forums for each new device out there. Thus, development and ROM threads for Motorola and other devices will be left out. Unless I understood your post incorrectly
no, you're right, i just dont think xda WANTS to keep up with every brand that uses android. they apparently keep their focus on HTC devices. there are gonna be a FLOOD of manufacturers utilizing droid in the future, and unless xda wants to change their focus, they will stick with one brand
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no, you're right, i just dont think xda WANTS to keep up with every brand that uses android. they apparently keep their focus on HTC devices. there are gonna be a FLOOD of manufacturers utilizing droid in the future, and unless xda wants to change their focus, they will stick with one brand
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Yea that's exactly my point.
There WILL be a flood of Android devices from all kinds of manufacturers and it would be nice if there was a place for all of them come together. That way, everyone can keep track of specific development without having to switch between dozens of forums.
My $0.02.
good luck, my friend. Most likely it will take someone to else to start a new site to accomplish. funny, i was fooling around a couple days ago and did this. http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=176593179336&v=wall
not saying this is the solution, but you are not alone in your concerns.
I see that a few agree with me, care to share your point of view? Maybe it will spark this thing.
Let me know what you guys think???
A place for rookies and anvance hackers - testing ROMS and stuff!
VerizonTBolt
www.verizontbolt.webuda.com
Nicw thanks
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Let me know what you guys think???
A place for rookies and anvance hackers - testing ROMS and stuff!
VerizonTBolt
www.verizontbolt.webuda.com
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Don't take this the wrong way, but creating a website for the Thunderbolt right now is like showing up late to a party with a 12 pack of Bud Light. Everyone will be happy you came, but you didn't bring anything that wasn't already there. Now, if you show up with a bottle of Single Barrel Jack Daniel's, you will be the shiznit at the party. So, if you can, please try to bring something different to your website. With that said, I'll be sure to keep checking on your site, it's always nice to have more people at the party.
COMING SOON!!!!!!!
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Thanks for the input guys!
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Don't take this the wrong way, but creating a website for the Thunderbolt right now is like showing up late to a party with a 12 pack of Bud Light. Everyone will be happy you came, but you didn't bring anything that wasn't already there. Now, if you show up with a bottle of Single Barrel Jack Daniel's, you will be the shiznit at the party. So, if you can, please try to bring something different to your website. With that said, I'll be sure to keep checking on your site, it's always nice to have more people at the party.
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To be honest, I love this idea. It's kind of hard to find updated roms and mods for any phone, not to mention the Thunderbolt. BeardedMan... Why is making a website like this, which will (hopefully) be a good hub for Thunderbolt mods and roms, getting "late to the party?" Is there another website out there like this, besides the android forms or Rom Manager? If there is, I'd like to know.
frankzua77, I would like to say thank you. If this website becomes what I think it will, it will make modding the Thunderbolt so much easier. If you need any help, just let me know.
I think the problem beardedman is referencing is the fact that there are a lot of android websites/forums already (even thunderbolt specific) and that there are a lot of much newer phones getting the attention. I have yet to not find anything I'm looking for without a 10 second search on Google. And the Thunderbolt is real close to being yesterday's superphone, if it's not already.
Plus, the problem with any of these sites is someone has to maintain it...which means sifting through posts, updating daily, etc. Unless it's a wiki that anyone can update, it's the same reason that the stickies all get outdated. Heck, it's the same reason I've started threads on many forums for many topics trying to compile information and eventually given up.
Now that I've rained on the parade and come off as a prick, I do applaud the effort...even if it doesn't stay updated or become the hub you imagine, at least you have an idea and a passion and are trying to do something about it. Don't lose that. And who knows...maybe it's just what the community needs
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/htc-thunderbolt-forum/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=940
http://www.teambamf.net/index.php/forum/15-htc-thunderbolt/
http://themikmik.com/forumdisplay.php?1004-HTC-Thunderbolt-ROM-Development
http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/
I have a "Thunderbolt" folder in my Bookmarks (just like I used to with my Incredible) that I have the five links in. I can open all the links and catch up with all the newest Thunderbolt news, for the most part. And the Thunderbolt is old news actually, just being honest.
TUDrewser understood what I meant, I wasn't being rude. ThunderNet, trying checking the above sites, I bet you'll find answers to whatever questions you have.
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To be honest, I love this idea. It's kind of hard to find updated roms and mods for any phone, not to mention the Thunderbolt. BeardedMan... Why is making a website like this, which will (hopefully) be a good hub for Thunderbolt mods and roms, getting "late to the party?" Is there another website out there like this, besides the android forms or Rom Manager? If there is, I'd like to know.
frankzua77, I would like to say thank you. If this website becomes what I think it will, it will make modding the Thunderbolt so much easier. If you need any help, just let me know.
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Please see my sig..
Users can submit a MOD, Downlad mods or whatever right from the web.
Still a WIP, but just needs attention.
Not knocking this idea at all, but should really consider opening it up to a wiki format and not center only on the thunderbolt.
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I really appreciate everyone that makes their point, I am currently working on the page. One of my goals is to have videos that can show you a ROM even before you consider downloading it. I know we are focusing on the tbolt, who knows maybe later on this expands to having other phones and stuff...
I need your help on deciding on a domain name! Right now im using a free domain service but I would like to purchase a domain, any ideas???
Also please click on the ads on the bottom as this is how the site will be funded for right now.
www.verizontbolt.webuda.com
Interesting
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Hello everyone!
Reading a lot and flashing awesome roms and mods at XDA I start to get increasingly interested in who the developers are. Sometimes threads go slightly off-topic and we get a glimpse of the person who is devoting so much time and effort for our devices.
Isn't there a thread missing where those stars we admire leak something about themselves?
There is a long list of celebrities on XDA/SGN700, and I (and I guess many other addicts/inmates/groupies) would be very delighted if those of you who want to could tell us something about yourself or off-topic you just don't want to post into the developer threads. Or accept our humble requests to leak something personal about yourself. Maybe something like this:
Where do you live?
What do you do to make a living?
Why do you develop? Why for the Note?
What did you do to learn this magic?
What do you work on right now? What's next? [no ETA, of course]
What is your personal challenge in developing?
Maybe something personal, what do you like and hate in real live and here? Why did you chose that avatar? Etc.
That might also keep the threads clean of this stuff.
@moderator: If this is dealt with somewhere else or surprisingly has been posted already - please delete. Thanks!
Doubt you'll get many bites on this, so here is a start for you.
http://thesillyclone.wordpress.com/2012/07/27/interview-with-xplodwild/
FYI, xplodwild is / was the lead dev for official Cyanogenmod on the Note GT-N7000.
Thank your for the link, exactly what I was looking for. I just hoped to shed some light on some more of them, since we just take so much and don't even know their names.
Maybe you are right, though I hope not.
AW: [REQUEST] Who are the developers?
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... and don't even know their names.
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That's called privacy and you should respect it.
So before posting something like this you have at least to ask the person you're writing about for permission. I doubt this has happened here.
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Thank you ThaiDai for your answer.
I respect privacy very much, that is why I wrote "those of you who want to". The questions I posted don't aks for privacies. And I did not ask for names, or did I? Nothing to doubt, please.
Anyway, thank you nickshertzer. If there is more like that anyone knows I would be grateful.
Not about the hardware- that's nothing short of exceptional to me. What I'm wondering is, why are all the new Kitkat based custom roms so stripped-down? I know it's new, and I'm also not a developer but I can appreciate the hard work that goes into making them. On all my devices I've been able to count on roms like CyanogenMod and others to add the subtle tweaks that I feel should have come from the factory. CM 10.2 was a killer ROM and had all the features I needed. I've tried some of these new KK roms and theyre either too much, or too vanilla. All the OP's say they're starting clean. I'm sure someone will tell me "Learn how to build your own if you don't like it" but does anyone know if/when the devs plan to start incorporating features back? I hope no one takes offense to this, as that is not my intention. I'm just trying to understand why this happened. Was it like this when ICS and JB came out?
I agree with you...
Just ask google for a refund
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I think streamlined is the term you are searching for. I've been using Android for quite some time now and lightweight is what I prefer. Plus, it's inevitable to have a little more functionality with custom ROMs.
Not trying to offend, but it sounds to me like you haven't been around Android for very long if you weren't around for the ICS to JB update. So with that, I'm glad you're on board. So sit back, relax, and enjoy your amazing phone that has a pure Android experience.
Keep flashing and I'm certain you'll find the perfect fit for you.
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does anyone know if/when the devs plan to start incorporating features back?
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When they feel like it, or install the xposed framework and some of its modules.
"Why this happened?" Probably because the phone has been available for barely over a month. Nothing "happened." I've never seen so much development on a new phone in such a short period of time. Jeez.
Just wait...
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All devs on all devices start by making the base as stable as possible first. Only THEN do the features get added in.
Remember, this is a Nexus device. It is the first device to receive kitkat. It takes time for devs to build features back in to a new base. They don't just "slot in". They need to be amended, debugged and sometimes completely re-written
You're an early adoptor of the nexus. ALL brand new devices takes time to develop for. But imagine you buy the next HTC device released in 6 months time with kitkat... cm devs have been working with kitkat sources for 7 or 8 months by that time. The features will almost just "slot in" but on a brand new base, it takes a lot of time. Im not sure you really do appreciate the hard work involved
Its also worth noting, cm's feature set is identical across all kitkat builds on all devices. Its only the device tree that varies
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The phone and 4.4 are brand new. Slim and CM are developing their Roms. Patience is virtue.
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To everyone who wrote a useful, non-sarcastic response, thank you. You answered my questions. To the jerks, I have one word. Karma.
I am on the stock rom and I have nearly all the features and tweaks that custom roms have.
Just install xposed framework and gravitybox module and you should be alright. You can download more modules depending on your needs.
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Try Slim rom, they have a good amount of added features now.
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The CM features are coming, don't worry! Then AOKP will be up, and then AOSPA, then you won't know what to do with yourself! It just takes a bit for the developers to redo features for the brand new version of Android. We've been a bit spoiled in that the transition from the Jellybean 4.x.x updates weren't terribly hard to push code up for, but KitKat has a lot more going on under the hood.
Edit: and if you recall how CM6 and CM7 looked, the streamlined look also makes for a MUCH easier UI, vs the clutter that kinda existed in the froyo and GB days.
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To everyone who wrote a useful, non-sarcastic response, thank you. You answered my questions. To the jerks, I have one word. Karma.
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You have to understand that the devs here aren't getting paid for what they do. They have jobs and lives outside of Android development, and they do this in their spare time for free. For you to pop in and start a thread in the forums for a brand-new phone basically saying "hey guys, why aren't you developing more" comes off as kind of rude. You're new here so I'm sure that wasn't your intention, but you have to understand that some patience is required with a brand-new phone and a brand-new version of Android. I'm amazed at the amount of development that we already have, to be honest.
All you need is Xposed and Gravity Box. I'm running stock rooted with those two, and I got my Rom exactly how I like it.
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You have to understand that the devs here aren't getting paid for what they do. They have jobs and lives outside of Android development, and they do this in their spare time for free. For you to pop in and start a thread in the forums for a brand-new phone basically saying "hey guys, why aren't you developing more" comes off as kind of rude. You're new here so I'm sure that wasn't your intention, but you have to understand that some patience is required with a brand-new phone and a brand-new version of Android. I'm amazed at the amount of development that we already have, to be honest.
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Can you please point me to where I said they should do something faster? Because frankly, I'm not seeing it. In fact, I specificially said that I appreciate the hard work that goes into them. All I was asking, was to be educated on why all the roms were starting clean. It seems some people understood this, and offered relevant responses while others simply flamed. It's no wonder that people get a bad taste of these forums with the way they get treated, when they simply asked a question and even carefully worded it so as not to be offensive or greedy.
When we went from ICS to JB, it wasn't like this. Devs didn't 'start fresh' like this. So clearly something DID happen, i.e. a change of some kind, that led them to do what they are doing. And all I wanted was to be educated on what that was! Not once did I say that these hard working people with lives who do this for FREE should do it FASTER. But people, who are possibly only semi-literate, immediately assume that someone is saying what they are clearly NOT saying. Is it boredom that leads people to jump on someone in a forum for no reason? Either say something constructive and don't be a warmonger, or move on.
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All you need is Xposed and Gravity Box. I'm running stock rooted with those two, and I got my Rom exactly how I like it.
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Thank you for your concise and constructive answer. From what I'm reading, I think you've led me in the right direction.
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The CM features are coming, don't worry! Then AOKP will be up, and then AOSPA, then you won't know what to do with yourself! It just takes a bit for the developers to redo features for the brand new version of Android. We've been a bit spoiled in that the transition from the Jellybean 4.x.x updates weren't terribly hard to push code up for, but KitKat has a lot more going on under the hood..
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THIS WAS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!! THANK YOU!! What a simple answer, that was not negative in any way, that told me what I was looking for. Thank you for not being insulting, and just telling me that it was easier to do JB updates than KK. So like I said, something was different about KK that made it more difficult to code for. Thank you for keeping in the spirit of constructively helping others.
IrocD said:
Thank you for your concise and constructive answer. From what I'm reading, I think you've led me in the right direction.
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I also like the Cataclysm ROM, very "stock-ish" with good features.
Gravity box is a great module. Many of us use it
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1. Does the ROM supports encryption out of the box?
2. Does it provide monthly security patches and updates via OTA?
3. If it encrypts the system by default, would it be able to install OTA updates without any issues?
4. Although I consider myself tech savvy, I want a Hassel free system and don't want to waste time tweaking (that's why I got Android one so that I don't have to worry about updates and security). So, Is there anything nagging about the ROM I should know before I flash?
Thanks for taking some time to answer my questions. I appreciate it.
x33k said:
1. Does the ROM supports encryption out of the box?
2. Does it provide monthly security patches and updates via OTA?
3. If it encrypts the system by default, would it be able to install OTA updates without any issues?
4. Although I consider myself tech savvy, I want a Hassel free system and don't want to waste time tweaking (that's why I got Android one so that I don't have to worry about updates and security). So, Is there anything nagging about the ROM I should know before I flash?
Thanks for taking some time to answer my questions. I appreciate it.
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... do you seriously expect people to give a A grade after market support the way you like and hassle free for free ...
just when you think you've seen it all ..
the rom also washes your car and using Ai "tweaks" it automatically so you don't waste your savvy to customize it to your liking ..so it basically reads your mind and then accurately predicts your tweaks so you can live hassle free ..you don't have to tap a single settings button again in your life
good considering a custom rom comes with more tweaks so if it wasn't for the auto mind reading Ai it might have given you more hassle with the tweaks than stock itself
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KevMetal said:
... do you seriously expect people to give a A grade after market support the way you like and hassle free for free ...
just when you think you've seen it all ..
the rom also washes your car and using Ai "tweaks" it automatically so you don't waste your savvy to customize it to your liking ..so it basically reads your mind and then accurately predicts your tweaks so you can live hassle free ..you don't have to tap a single settings button again in your life
good considering a custom rom comes with more tweaks so if it wasn't for the auto mind reading Ai it might have given you more hassle with the tweaks than stock itself
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If you don't understand my question you know you can always ignore. You won't get any point being mean to others on internet. Also, I guess you misunderstood the meaning of "customization" and "tweaking".
N:B: to answer your first question, yes, sometime i do. Been using Linux in my whole life which is both free and hassel free in my opinion. Been using Lineage OS in Mi 9T that didn't require any system Tweaking to provide optimal performance.
Thanks for stopping by, reading my question and replying. I appreciate it.
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If you don't understand my question you know you can always ignore. You won't get any point being mean to others on internet. Also, I guess you misunderstood the meaning of "customization" and "tweaking".
N:B: to answer your first question, yes, sometime i do. Been using Linux in my whole life which is both free and hassel free in my opinion. Been using Lineage OS in Mi 9T that didn't require any system Tweaking to provide optimal performance.
Thanks for stopping by, reading my question and replying. I appreciate it.
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well I feel I understood your question rather well. I would have ingnored but thought it wouldn't cost me anything to try and explain to you that being very entitled on the internet occasionally gives the opposite result of what you want ....so i guess i was trying to be nice and think of everyone when i tried to demonstrate in a comical way that you come off as super demanding ...xda has some traditions like no asking for eta's and so ..i think your question isn't exactly doing that ...but somehow doing something worse like asking for a commitment for future eta's ..so the answer from me , not the rom dev would be that ..no ..unless you donate , support and respect people who do things out of love in their time , then no , nobody can or should commit to providing you professional , full time , long term support ..that is the short answer that doesn't touch on your attitude regarding your personal preference and tastes which feel need to be considered ..most people come to xda for the love of tweaking ..tweaking or fine tuning is an art that is practised by people who love doing things the best way possible and something that gives people more , not less , personal choice and control over what happens on their phone ..of i wanted to be " not nice" i would have told you to go buy an iphone and keep in contact with Apple Care . I support open source but it wouldn't be the first time someone like you might make a developer put a price on his passion ..finally to end of with ..optimal performance is a very big collocation which demands extreme excellence ..if you don't understand that check the meaning carefully in a dictionary ..and it would certainly require tweaking and user compliance to achieve ..bevause a certain amount would be subjective ..if i had to guess perhaps you were asking if this rom is bugless and if the dev was intending on donating it and you long term support ..maybe try asking again in a less demanding way ..that way i might not bother to donate you more free unsolicited advice
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well I feel I understood your question rather well. I would have ingnored but thought it wouldn't cost me anything to try and explain to you that being very entitled on the internet occasionally gives the opposite result of what you want ....so i guess i was trying to be nice and think of everyone when i tried to demonstrate in a comical way that you come off as super demanding ...xda has some traditions like no asking for eta's and so ..i think your question isn't exactly doing that ...but somehow doing something worse like asking for a commitment for future eta's ..so the answer from me , not the rom dev would be that ..no ..unless you donate , support and respect people who do things out of love in their time , then no , nobody can or should commit to providing you professional , full time , long term support ..that is the short answer that doesn't touch on your attitude regarding your personal preference and tastes which feel need to be considered ..most people come to xda for the love of tweaking ..tweaking or fine tuning is an art that is practised by people who love doing things the best way possible and something that gives people more , not less , personal choice and control over what happens on their phone ..of i wanted to be " not nice" i would have told you to go buy an iphone and keep in contact with Apple Care . I support open source but it wouldn't be the first time someone like you might make a developer put a price on his passion ..finally to end of with ..optimal performance is a very big collocation which demands extreme excellence ..if you don't understand that check the meaning carefully in a dictionary ..and it would certainly require tweaking and user compliance to achieve ..bevause a certain amount would be subjective ..if i had to guess perhaps you were asking if this rom is bugless and if the dev was intending on donating it and you long term support ..maybe try asking again in a less demanding way ..that way i might not bother to donate you more free unsolicited advice
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I would kindly request you to re-read my original post. I didn't 'demand' anything. I just asked the pixel rom users if the things i require is already present in the rom or not. If not then fine, i will move to another one or compile myself from lineage os repo. I didn't demand that the devs should provide regular updates!!! And yes, i do donate to various open source projects , but even then i don't expect any personalization for myself from devs. I know those projects are for everyone, and not only for me. Although your advice turned out to be useless because of misunderstood context, thank you for the free advice.
x33k said:
1. Does the ROM supports encryption out of the box?
2. Does it provide monthly security patches and updates via OTA?
3. If it encrypts the system by default, would it be able to install OTA updates without any issues?
4. Although I consider myself tech savvy, I want a Hassel free system and don't want to waste time tweaking (that's why I got Android one so that I don't have to worry about updates and security). So, Is there anything nagging about the ROM I should know before I flash?
Thanks for taking some time to answer my questions. I appreciate it.
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1.no it does not support encryption
2.yes
3.it does not encrypt if it does there is no prob
4.mic prob sometimes restart would fix it tho
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2/development/rom-pixel-experience-t4138459
Immanuel Raj said:
1.no it does not support encryption
2.yes
3.it does not encrypt if it does there is no prob
4.mic prob sometimes restart would fix it tho
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2/development/rom-pixel-experience-t4138459
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thank you for your short and precise answer. it was exactly what I wanted to know. Much appreciated.
@KevMetal You should have ignored that question. That kind of reply helps no one.
Yk.HeniX said:
@KevMetal You should have ignored that question. That kind of reply helps no one.
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jajaja well it seems you know what type of post to ignore .... so please dont feel obligated to reply to me ... since we're practicing self restraint .
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