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. So this is the deal, I originally had an ATT Tilt. I had no problems! I synched though active sync, via bluetooth and over air with no issues. Two days ago I got a Fuze, I was ecstatic, but then my camera became disabled and I consistently could not access my storage card. The message actually came up saying that my "camera has been diabled for security reasons". WTF is that? I have hard reset the phone about ten times now and everytime before I set up exchange everything works beautifully, but after I have no camera and no sd card. Is this a known problem or is my Fuze busted? Please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is it possible that this is a policy in your company being enforced by your IT dept via your exchange server?
Believe me, I've discussed this extensively with my IT department and they haven't made any changes to their exchange server policies. They have the same question I have! If the companies Tilts are all working with the same OS what hardware changes in the Fuze could create such an issue relative to their existent server policies?
Update! I also tested this on a co-worker's Sprint HTC Touch Pro and got the same results. He had to hard reset his phone to get full functionality again! My IT dept says that our server links to an https site if thats relevant to anyone. I'm not technically versed in that area. Hopefully someone has had a similar issue, and potential workaround?????
Its almost going to have to be coming from a setting on your Exchange server at work. See the attached screen shot. All of those settings are configurable on the server. Once you connect, it automatically downloads whatever policies are in effect. This screen shot is from an Exchange 2007 server. I no longer have a 2003 server but it is similar.
Hmmmm....
Man, your awesome! I think IT was BS-ing me a bit, or they haven't bothered to check the settings themselves. I'm gonna break some necks and find out if these settings are the issue. Either way I'll report back my findings.
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Man, your awesome! I think IT was BS-ing me a bit, or they haven't bothered to check the settings themselves. I'm gonna break some necks and find out if these settings are the issue. Either way I'll report back my findings.
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They probably weren't BSing you. They probably haven't touched those settings since configuring the server. The Tilt has a different version of mobile office which probably wasn't compatible with and subsequently ignored those settings.
zenyaa stayunlock cab -- search for it, install it, THEN sync w/exchange (may require hard reset to kill existing settings)
I installed zenyaa stay unlock before syncing accidentally after a hard reset and i never even got prompted for pin's.. hopefully it'll ignore the other restrictions too...
Keep in mind, this may be against the law for some companies, use responsibly.
zenyaa!
I like the potential. For now however, I have flexed some executive privilege and got my settings changed. I got everything enabled except wi-fi. , but they are paying for my media plan so no real worries there. I will look into zenya though, it seems ridiculous to ask for normal features on a smart phone, but I guess my IT department is restriction crazy. Thank you all for your input, this issue is technically resolved for me.
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I like the potential. For now however, I have flexed some executive privilege and got my settings changed. I got everything enabled except wi-fi. , but they are paying for my media plan so no real worries there. I will look into zenya though, it seems ridiculous to ask for normal features on a smart phone, but I guess my IT department is restriction crazy. Thank you all for your input, this issue is technically resolved for me.
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From an IT view, it's a huge security risk having a device that you cannot regulate on your network. Not allowing removable storage might be a little much though, especially if they allow you to have usb flash drives. I wouldn't allow wireless at all though, regardless of who requested it.
To an extent, I agree with you.
In this specific case however, I think my IT could/should have been more forthcoming about their mobile polices. That would have made me more specific in my search for a new business phone. I could have gotten something with less features based on policy. That being said, I think it was more a reluctance to hear criticism from a non-IT person than it was to adjust the default settings. With the exception of Wi-Fi (for probably the reasons you stated!), there was no real issue in changing my settings.
I might have to send mine back, if I were to buy some apps and then get a different handset, can I still use them on the new device.
Kev
no they are tied to your gmail account. So if you send it back you can restore them on your new device without having to pay again..
I can verify this - I have apps that I bought for my G1, still in my downloads when I got my magic and again have been transferred to my Hero. Linking to your gmail account is a really fair way for software to work -
On Win Mo it was often tied to the IMEI so if it bust or you sold it you had to buy again or grovel for another code....
Dayzz
Thanks Both, that is good to know.
Coupled with a post I have read on here from someone who apparantly got a refund very simply on an app, it is making Android look really good.
Only issues left for me are.
1. Trying to forget how good the iPhone is (at the things it does)
2. Try to increase font sizes on Hero.
3. Try to solve the frequent "a network error has occured, please retry, or cancel and return to the previous screen"
4. Solve the seemingly poor wi-fi reception.
5. Try to forgot how none of those things are an issue on iPhone
Kev
kevwright said:
Thanks Both, that is good to know.
Coupled with a post I have read on here from someone who apparantly got a refund very simply on an app, it is making Android look really good.
Only issues left for me are.
1. Trying to forget how good the iPhone is (at the things it does)
2. Try to increase font sizes on Hero.
3. Try to solve the frequent "a network error has occured, please retry, or cancel and return to the previous screen"
4. Solve the seemingly poor wi-fi reception.
5. Try to forgot how none of those things are an issue on iPhone
Kev
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Lot of things there that you have compared to the iPhone, what do you like better than the iPhone though?
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Nahhh get a iPhone. The Hero's not for you. It's 'orrible. You won't Like it.
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Dayzzzz - Get set for going off to the Ed Festival...
It appears to be tied in my experience. I bought video safe and photo safe on the g1, and on upgrading to a g2, it am unable to install those apps. It appears that trying to reinstall is making an attempt to charge my bank card again.
I have emailed the supplier. I would see what they have to say.
You might get a checking credit card details message but I think this is just to check that its the same as the one that paid. I've never been charged again for the apps I've bought, including copilot .
Dayz
I can't retrieve new email on my Microsoft accounts, first noted the problem on my HTC 8X (highly regret getting it nearly a week in) and then things started getting weird on my 360. Is there anyway to solve this nonsense without jumping through the hoops Microsoft set in the form of a questionnaire with unanswerable questions? Even if you get them right they tell you you're wrong lol like I don't know what my password is. It wasn't like this for like the first three days, any solutions?
Sounds like you may have been hacked, Only way I know is to jump through hoops then change your password, Luckily each time I have had this happen it wasn't that much of a pain seeing as I have a back up account for password retrieval etc,
Seems as though every time I sold a Windows phone even though I wiped it of personal info and hard reset I got hacked, Hence having to do all this before
Hi all,
Purchased the watch couple days ago, yesterday was my first day to really put it through it's paces. Everything seems copacetic except for the WiFi syncing. I've got cloud sync turned on in the Wear app, and WiFi on the watch is set to "Automatic". I verified the watch is indeed connected to a valid WiFi network, with no exclamation points, etc., and I turn off BT on my phone (but keep it's data connection on.) I then try sending a text from the watch, no luck - "Try again from your phone." fail message. I send myself a text from my wife's phone to my phone, the phone registers it, but the watch doesn't. I go into Keep and delete a note on the phone, the watch still shows it. It's not until they reconnect via BT that everything syncs again. Oh, and I tried it on three different WiFi networks (2 at work, 1 at home), no success.
Here's the only thing that I can think of being different. The very first time I turned WiFi off on the watch, there's was a small Yes/No splash screen that came up saying something to the effect of "turning this off will prevent you from syncing"... I THINK. Honestly I can't recall what it said precisely (I was too excited playing with the watch), but the multiple times I've toggled WiFi since then, I have not seen that message again. Anyone know what message I'm talking about? Of course since it hasn't come up again I'm convinced it's the reason WiFi syncing isn't working now. I even factory reset the watch and cleared the data on my Wear app, hoping to get that message back. (It could be completely unrelated, it's just bugging me that ever since I chose "Yes I'm sure", syncing has not worked.)
Thanks in advance for any ideas/suggestions.
James
SyrinxPriest said:
Hi all,
Purchased the watch couple days ago, yesterday was my first day to really put it through it's paces. Everything seems copacetic except for the WiFi syncing. I've got cloud sync turned on in the Wear app, and WiFi on the watch is set to "Automatic". I verified the watch is indeed connected to a valid WiFi network, with no exclamation points, etc., and I turn off BT on my phone (but keep it's data connection on.) I then try sending a text from the watch, no luck - "Try again from your phone." fail message. I send myself a text from my wife's phone to my phone, the phone registers it, but the watch doesn't. I go into Keep and delete a note on the phone, the watch still shows it. It's not until they reconnect via BT that everything syncs again. Oh, and I tried it on three different WiFi networks (2 at work, 1 at home), no success.
Here's the only thing that I can think of being different. The very first time I turned WiFi off on the watch, there's was a small Yes/No splash screen that came up saying something to the effect of "turning this off will prevent you from syncing"... I THINK. Honestly I can't recall what it said precisely (I was too excited playing with the watch), but the multiple times I've toggled WiFi since then, I have not seen that message again. Anyone know what message I'm talking about? Of course since it hasn't come up again I'm convinced it's the reason WiFi syncing isn't working now. I even factory reset the watch and cleared the data on my Wear app, hoping to get that message back. (It could be completely unrelated, it's just bugging me that ever since I chose "Yes I'm sure", syncing has not worked.)
Thanks in advance for any ideas/suggestions.
James
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Did you ever figure this out?
I have the LG WATCH R with the Urbane rom and have the same issue. It shows connect to Wifi just fine but if I am away from the phone, I cannot send anything...just like when I have no connection.
I think the pop up you mentioned just had a option to prevent the warning from coming up again but should not affect the option to disable and enable the cloud sync.
Nope, afraid not. I posted it to the Google Android wear forums and a couple of "experts" replied to me with suggestions that did not help (factory reset, mainly.)
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Nope, afraid not. I posted it to the Google Android wear forums and a couple of "experts" replied to me with suggestions that did not help (factory reset, mainly.)
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Yep that has been my "solutions" too so far. I am not sure how the Cloud Sync works do you? It is linked to your Google account? If so, I have 3 email accounts..could that create an issue? I am basically looking for anything right now
Here's what I did find out: my daily driver phone is a Moto X 2nd gen running Lollipop. I factory reset an old Samsung S4 and set it up with a Google account I'd just created. I then factory reset the watch and paired it to that phone. Wouldn't you know, the WiFi notifications worked!
I then factory reset the S4 again, this time using my main Google account to set it up. Factory reset the watch again also. After pairing them, the WiFi notifications did NOT work!
So, I can only conclude the issue is caused by how I have my main Google account configured, although right now I've gone through all the settings twice and verified that I have all of my sharing settings (like location) enabled. Argh.
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Here's what I did find out: my daily driver phone is a Moto X 2nd gen running Lollipop. I factory reset an old Samsung S4 and set it up with a Google account I'd just created. I then factory reset the watch and paired it to that phone. Wouldn't you know, the WiFi notifications worked!
I then factory reset the S4 again, this time using my main Google account to set it up. Factory reset the watch again also. After pairing them, the WiFi notifications did NOT work!
So, I can only conclude the issue is caused by how I have my main Google account configured, although right now I've gone through all the settings twice and verified that I have all of my sharing settings (like location) enabled. Argh.
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Interesting. I will play with that next. Annoying as hell too though
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Interesting. I will play with that next. Annoying as hell too though
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Well my LG Watch R is now able to work with Wifi for real but only at home. Not sure what I did...I just deleted my accounts from Settings and added them back.
At work, though even when it shows connected, I do not receive any info from the Phone which is very lame since it was at work where I could really use it.
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Well my LG Watch R is now able to work with Wifi for real but only at home. Not sure what I did...I just deleted my accounts from Settings and added them back.
At work, though even when it shows connected, I do not receive any info from the Phone which is very lame since it was at work where I could really use it.
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Cool! Can you tell me what you mean by "deleted my accounts from Settings"? I want to test it too.
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Cool! Can you tell me what you mean by "deleted my accounts from Settings"? I want to test it too.
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I have 3 google accounts so I actually deleted only two that are not my primary. Then I went to the Sync options and made sure all was checked.
Then also for the Location I removed any other devices that are showing under my account that are not my Phone (tablet and older phones) but not sure which one of those did the trick.
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I have 3 google accounts so I actually deleted only two that are not my primary. Then I went to the Sync options and made sure all was checked.
Then also for the Location I removed any other devices that are showing under my account that are not my Phone (tablet and older phones) but not sure which one of those did the trick.
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Huh, okay, I'll give those a try. Thanks.
I did open a ticket with Android Wear Support and was told they were going to escalate the issue and I'd be contacted in 48 hours. That was Sunday. I just asked for an update and they replied that they have no solution ATM and no time frame to provide one. Heh! Oh well.
Hi there,
After the advice of John on this thread
https://groups.google.com/a/googlep...forums.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer
I finally got passed the boot loop after another attempt. I am travelling in China and this country is so beautiful that I could not stand living without a camera. So I simply tried again and it worked. (I have a software VPN that helps to reach the Google servers).
So I have setup a hosted network on my Windows 10 device with the VPN on it and went ahead with the install.
It went all fine (a bit longer as the packets have to transit via San Fransico hardware VPN hosted by VPN Express) however once I'm on the "Verifying your account" page, I enter my email and it grays out in the wait of completion but it rolls and rolls, it never ends.
I have searched on Google search engine about documentation to fix that quick and I ended in an ocean of people running around like headless chickens, sake oil dealers etc etc. So what's all these hurdles about this FPR thing???
I am scared.
I am in china and my phone helps me to get around.
It's now a useless paper weight.
What if I end up in a trap because I asked some people for my way and I get hurt? Am I allowed to blame the new fancy "security" policies?
PLEASE HELP ME FAST - I NEED URGENT ASSISTANCE - I will be refreshing my email every 30mns from now.
vonz33 said:
Hi there,
After the advice of John on this thread
https://groups.google.com/a/googlep...forums.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer
I finally got passed the boot loop after another attempt. I am travelling in China and this country is so beautiful that I could not stand living without a camera. So I simply tried again and it worked. (I have a software VPN that helps to reach the Google servers).
So I have setup a hosted network on my Windows 10 device with the VPN on it and went ahead with the install.
It went all fine (a bit longer as the packets have to transit via San Fransico hardware VPN hosted by VPN Express) however once I'm on the "Verifying your account" page, I enter my email and it grays out in the wait of completion but it rolls and rolls, it never ends.
I have searched on Google search engine about documentation to fix that quick and I ended in an ocean of people running around like headless chickens, sake oil dealers etc etc. So what's all these hurdles about this FPR thing???
I am scared.
I am in china and my phone helps me to get around.
It's now a useless paper weight.
What if I end up in a trap because I asked some people for my way and I get hurt? Am I allowed to blame the new fancy "security" policies?
PLEASE HELP ME FAST - I NEED URGENT ASSISTANCE - I will be refreshing my email every 30mns from now.
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There are a few options you can take (if you have an unlocked bootloader). The quickest would be to simply delete the SetupWizard apk from TWRP.
Another option is to download and flash a ROM without Google Apps (make sure to download the camera apk of your choice- whether it be Snap or Google Camera).
Finally, you could try another VPN service (or server).
Go to a country that allows Google services to be used, or simply be patient as the VPN is apparently the problem. Your last two questions are likely rhetorical, but if you end up in a trap and get hurt it's your fault, not Google's. So no, you can't blame them for their Factory Reset Protection.
The "issue" with FRP is a simple one. It requires knowing the last Google account used and its password. This affects two different groups of people: those with "burner" accounts, and resellers.
In the case of the burner accounts people create a Google account with a password and don't bother to remember it because they don't want to give any information to Google. Then when they have to reset their devices for whatever reason FRP kicks in and they're screwed. Since they don't know the Google account or password they can't get back into the device.
The resellers purchase used devices and try to move them. However the person selling the device often does not clear out the account information from the device or does not remove the device from their account. When the device is sold the new owner attempts to enter their information and gets tripped up by FRP as they don't have the last Google account and its password.
"Burner" accounts are a pathway to disaster. Resellers are a bit more careful, and instances of FRP on a used device from a reseller have gone down.
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There are a few options you can take (if you have an unlocked bootloader). The quickest would be to simply delete the SetupWizard apk from TWRP.
Another option is to download and flash a ROM without Google Apps (make sure to download the camera apk of your choice- whether it be Snap or Google Camera).
Finally, you could try another VPN service (or server).
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Thanks for these options!
Yes, good old TWRP... Good option however since the phone is not rooted it would require a way to root it via fastboot flash, and also a way to push TWRP the same way.
I would perhaps rather downgrade to 6.0 or even 5.0 to see if I get lucky.
I could also buy a new phone here but the pricings are rather prohibitive and the models they have would be of no use outside of China.
I have tried mucking around with other VPNs today, it allowed me to go one or 2 steps further but the procedure finally s+++t itself in the end.
I should be in Vietnam tomorrow so hopefully the local telecom towers will allow me to finish my install....
I have no idea how i'm going to tell the taxi driver that I need to go to the train station without a portable system like an android phone, time is a bit short to chase down a paper dictionary.
If you still have some more leads on your TWRP methods that would solve this, please post ahead. I have no guarantees that Vietnam will solve this at this point in time.
Cheers mate.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Go to a country that allows Google services to be used, or simply be patient as the VPN is apparently the problem. Your last two questions are likely rhetorical, but if you end up in a trap and get hurt it's your fault, not Google's. So no, you can't blame them for their Factory Reset Protection.
The "issue" with FRP is a simple one. It requires knowing the last Google account used and its password. This affects two different groups of people: those with "burner" accounts, and resellers.
In the case of the burner accounts people create a Google account with a password and don't bother to remember it because they don't want to give any information to Google. Then when they have to reset their devices for whatever reason FRP kicks in and they're screwed. Since they don't know the Google account or password they can't get back into the device.
The resellers purchase used devices and try to move them. However the person selling the device often does not clear out the account information from the device or does not remove the device from their account. When the device is sold the new owner attempts to enter their information and gets tripped up by FRP as they don't have the last Google account and its password.
"Burner" accounts are a pathway to disaster. Resellers are a bit more careful, and instances of FRP on a used device from a reseller have gone down.
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Not Google's fault? Lets unpack this one... I am a council fixing up a foot path. The engineers have let a slight gap in the concrete due to a fabrication method process. If you trip and hurt yourself it's your fault yeah?
Secondo, it's not Google's job to make my phone safe from thieves, it's mine. Why in hell would they make my life complicated because some idiots spends $2000 on a phone a forget it in a taxi, I don't want to have to do all these things, I just want my phone to be able to be serviced easily. and especially if i'm in a critical area, my safety is more important than these people's concerns about thieves. An the cherry on the pie is that today with the cloud sync technology, who cares in the first place.
""Burner" accounts are a pathway to disaster." Mate, look up the word disaster's definition from the dictionary and see if it applied to a chum that has got his phone stolen and get back to me with that.
Kind regards
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vonz33 said:
]Not Google's fault? Lets unpack this one... I am a council fixing up a foot path. The engineers have let a slight gap in the concrete due to a fabrication method process. If you trip and hurt yourself it's your fault yeah?
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It's not Google's fault as you have alternative options you could take. For instance, a dedicated GPS receiver from Garmin or Tom Tom. I keep both a Garmin GPS and a street atlas in my car as a backup to my N6 and I live stateside. Should I encounter an issue, I have a means to get where I need to go. It's called "being prepared".
Your argument is a strawman argument, because Google's Android software is working as intended. Your argument might have more weight if there was a bug in the software that prevented you from using it. FRP is not a bug.
Secondo, it's not Google's job to make my phone safe from thieves, it's mine. Why in hell would they make my life complicated because some idiots spends $2000 on a phone a forget it in a taxi, I don't want to have to do all these things, I just want my phone to be able to be serviced easily. and especially if i'm in a critical area, my safety is more important than these people's concerns about thieves. An the cherry on the pie is that today with the cloud sync technology, who cares in the first place.
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Bit of a strawman here as well, as the issue isn't the person accidentally leaving his device in a taxi, but the person who gets their device stolen. Add to that the hyperbole of a $2,000 phone and you have a funny comment.
This is Google complying with California's kill switch law that went into effect two years ago. Since people travel in and out of California all the time and it's nearly impossible to target devices with "California-only" firmware Google implemented FRP worldwide. The entire idea of FRP is to make the phone impossible to use if it is stolen.
""Burner" accounts are a pathway to disaster." Mate, look up the word disaster's definition from the dictionary and see if it applied to a chum that has got his phone stolen and get back to me with that.
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The situation you describe is exactly why FRP was implemented on devices. Burner accounts will lead to disaster because it is inevitable that the owner will have to reset his device for whatever reason. When he does, he's screwed. I will clarify one thing here: when I refer to a "Burner" account I refer to an account with a random string of letters and numbers used for both email address and password with the express purpose of preventing Google from tying data collected from the device to the owner of that device. Ideally, if you really want to use a throwaway account, you at least make up an email address and password that are both easy to remember.
For the record, here's the definition of "disaster". Definition 3 applies to this conversation.
dis·as·ter (dəˈzastər)
noun
1. a sudden event, such as an accident or a natural catastrophe, that causes great damage or loss of life. "159 people died in the disaster"
synonyms: catastrophe, calamity, cataclysm, tragedy, act of God, holocaust; accident. "a subway disaster"
2. denoting a genre of films that use natural or accidental catastrophe as the mainspring of plot and setting.
modifier noun: disaster. "a disaster movie"
3. an event or fact that has unfortunate consequences. "a string of personal disasters"
synonyms: misfortune, mishap, misadventure, mischance, setback, reversal, stroke of bad luck, blow. "a string of personal disasters"
P.S. When quoting something written in quotes, double quotes are replaced with single quotes. Thus, in quoting me you want to say, "'Burner' accounts are a pathway to disaster."