Impressive and depressing to see the amount of preinstalled apps that even if you are not using are trying to connect to internet services, mostly AmazonWS.
Luckily forbidding to them the access to Internet has no impacting on normal usage, but it is crazy that every app attempt to connect to Internet.
Apps that i don't use or i know what they are for but are trying to connect to internet:
DUO (1tracker)
Game optimizing service
AR doodle
Device service
Download manager
Apps that i don understand why they have tried to go out (internet):
Camera
SmartSwitch (scary being a data migration tool)
Contacts
photo editor
your phone companion (also has 5 trackers)
What do you think?
Should I clean above apps and replace by less intrusive or some without access to network?
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I recently rooted my Droid 1 with One Click and now have Super User access. From there I grabbed an Milestone Overclocking app to simplify speeding up the phone, (as I have mentioned in other threads I am completely out of my element with phones since they don't have a internal combustion engine) as well as Root Exlorer from the market. Then I went into the world of deleting .apk files that I had read here that were unnecessary and completely safe to remove. Along with those I also got rid of, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Amazon MP3. Since this I have not been able to get past "Getting Driving Directions" on my Navigation. I have checked with others I work with and they had some issues as well with Navigation over the past week. Both Droid 1 and 2 users reported the same issues of screen stall to me. As of Friday one of the users of Droid 2 let me know that his Nav was once again working properly, mine is still not. Did I overdo it on deleting and get rid of something that is causing this problem? My Maps still give proper directions from my location, (no matter where I am at the time of testing) but once going into Nav, stalls. If I did get rid of too many how can I get those files back to my phone so everything works again as desired? I am now left with the following .apk files (.odex files as well):
Account and Sync Settings
Applications Provider
Bluetooth
Browser
Calculator
*Calendar Google
*Calendar Provider
Camera Google
Cert Installer
Contacts
Contacts Provider
Corp Cal (what does this do exactly?)
Default Container Service (job of this?)
Download Provider
Drm Prover
Droid Email Policy (Read it, can I get rid of it?)
Email Google
Gallery 3D Google
Genie Widget
Google Backup Transport
*Google Calendar Sync Adapter
Google Contacts Sync Adapter
Google Feedback
Google Partner Setup (Purpose of this?)
Google Services Framework
HTML Viewer
Kickback (Can I safely kill this? Have never enabled it)
Launcher2
Maps
Market Updater
Media Provider
Media Uploader (no .odex with this one)
Mms
Music google
Network Location
One Time Initializer (Purpose?)
Package Installer
Phone
Phone Config
Pico TTS (I use Vlingo, can I delete this as well?)
Program Menu
Program Menu System
Protips (Use?)
Settings
Settings Provider
Setup Wizard
Sholes Quick Office (no .odex)
Soundback (no .odex)
Sound Recorder
Superuser
Telephony Provider
User Dictionary Provider
Vending (Use?)
VPN Services
(*) I never input any events into my calendar, but I do like to look ahead at times for planning reasons, do I need all these?
Alright, I will leave you all alone and continue being a gearhead, drinker and general knuckle-dragger until more questions of me are asked or answers are available, thank you all again for all of your help!
hmm....i delete over 100 apps from delfy but if you delete all of it you will lost may fuctions
You wiped too much. Some apps are both app (as per UI for user) as data providers for certain functionality. You can tell that by looking in Manifest but you have to have enough knowledge to judge. Rule of tumb is to always move stuff off-side (i.e. to SD card folder) and not removing directly as you got no way back in case of failure, especially sometimes you may find out something does not work far too late. I wiped crap like GMail or Navigation and other 3rd party useless apps but I'd suggest to stay away from removing apps that may offer ecosystem functionality. Potential savings (like 200KB) vs time wasted on restoration is simply not worth for most cases.
Corp Cal - Corporate Calendar. Requires Exchange server. Probably safe to remove but again - do you *really* needs that to be removed?
Thank you for the info. Where would I be able to find all the original system apps so that I can add them all back and delete more carefully next time?
After uninstalling these following programs, i noticed a boost both in battery, ram and performance. These apps were safely disabled using adb and they won't affect the functionality of the software (aka no random crashes or error messages):
Gmail
Gdrive
Chrome (i recommend using Brave)
Duo
Google calendar and contacts sync (useless to me. Can be disabled with adb safely but i prefer by system settings)
Google movies
Google music
Google partner setup
Google one time
Google TTS
Facebook-related apps (there are 3 system apps that are for facebook)
Huawei share (watch out which one you uninstall. Since i don't have any other huawei products or a wireless printer, i uninstalled it)
Digital balance
Hivoice
Hisearch
Appgallery
Huawei wallet
Talkback (known as android accesibility suite)
Google backup transport(disable it via settings, people say that this service is used by the other google apps so in case it is required, you can re-enable it).
Android setup (disable it via settings. It doesn't auto start at boot and if you uninstall it via adb you will get errors)
<The list will be updated as soon as i find more apps that can be safely disabled>
I use Brave browser, but scrolling is quite choppy with it...
Let me recommend - Monument Browser - (not as good as Brave - still feels not mature enough) but scrolling is very very smooth.
Sorry for this wall of text. Kindly provide some insights on this issue.
This happen at november. Updated samsung device care from galaxy store and it happen. Tried downgrade to an older version from playstore but didnt solve it.
Next is, the firmware update with october security is released. So i just format phone, updated the phone and reinstall all my apps. But the high cpu usage causing phone lag is still there.
Next, i narrow it down to this app, internet speed meter (an app which shows real time data upload/download speed in status bar) which is causing the phone lag. After uninstall it, its better but still with occasional lag. This is weird as the app was not updated at all, so theres no changes in the app. And it was working flawlessly before november.
Next, i tried others apps which provide the same function as internet speed meter but the result is the same. When the app runs, the phone will lag. Once forced stopped, the phone will not lag as much.
Was wondering if theres any changes to samsung device or the firmware OS which result in this lag.
A little description on the lag. When those internet speed meter is running, even opening other apps like xda, it will take about 10 seconds to open. When using samsung internet, when open app and opening new tab or just click on settings or any part of the app, it takes 5 seconds to load/display.
Currently, without any internet speed meter app, its takes about 1 second to load. But, it cant reach the speed before november. Before november, everything loads real fast even when running a few apps at the same time with internet speed meter running.
Anyone who might know what went wrong kindly enlighten me on this issue. Thank you.
Something to add on. If using samsung internet explorer to download files, the download speed will be slower and somehow the phone will lag. If i use dolphin browser to download the same file from the same server, there will be only a very slight lag but the download is fast. Anyone knows what might be the problem? Thanks.
Try disable bixby & google assistant or force stop them, uninstall google play services updates from app info, disable sending diagnostics data & automatic update.
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Try disable bixby & google assistant or force stop them, uninstall google play services updates from app info, disable sending diagnostics data & automatic update.
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Bixby and google assistant are off. Diagnostic report and automatic updates are off.
Will google play service lag the phone that much?
I'm happy with my new Zenfone 8 and want to limit the amount of personal data that Google and others can take from it. So I haven't signed into Google and I'm using F-droid, etc, to download apps.
I've installed NetGuard and I'm OK with allowing or blocking traffic from User Apps. However if I "Show System Apps" there are so many of them that I'm lost.
Is there a list of System Apps that can be blocked to increase privacy without affecting the basic functions of the phone?
I don't have a list, but you should try TrackerControl from F-Droid, it is basically NetGuard but with extra features like tracker blocking, which can be useful for apps that are not tracker-free like social media. It allows very precise control over what urls apps can send/recieve info from
Thanks, I hadn't heard about TrackerControl and will check it out.
Is Netguard still necessary? When I go into an app's settings, click on network, I can turn off mobile data and wifi for any particular app. That's basically what netguard does, right? i.e. prevent an app from accessing the internet
I recently found some hidden google apps on my Zenfone 8 that I had not heard about before...
Settings > Apps & notifications > See all apps > click 3 dots upper right corner of screen "Show system".....
I uninstalled these that I don't have a use for:
Companion Device Manager
Basic Daydreams
Google Assistant
Syndor Flipfont
And I force stopped many other apps (that could not be uninstalled) that I didn't see a use for.
There were other apps that I disabled wi-fi and mobile connections to.
I also use Netguard to control which apps have internet and mobile access. However Netguard shows vastly more system apps that I have no idea what they do - I leave these alone. It the moment I'm only trying to reduce the amount of surveillance built into a normal android phone.
I haven't heard of a published an up-to-date rundown of system apps that have no business sending data out of the phone? I know you can just disable all data out connections using Netguard and then spend the rest of your life figuring out which ones to enable to get a useable phone. Perhaps such a list is impractical as it may have to be tailored to each phone and OS? But there might be system apps common to recent android systems that could have the wi-fi and mobile data disabled?
Anything would help if I didn't have to fiddle around so much. The alternative is a degoogled phone. Many google play apps can work on these but there are several important ones I use that don't work and so far I have found no viable open source apps to replace them.
Tom100% said:
I recently found some hidden google apps on my Zenfone 8 that I had not heard about before...
Settings > Apps & notifications > See all apps > click 3 dots upper right corner of screen "Show system".....
I uninstalled these that I don't have a use for:
Companion Device Manager
Basic Daydreams
Google Assistant
Syndor Flipfont
And I force stopped many other apps (that could not be uninstalled) that I didn't see a use for.
There were other apps that I disabled wi-fi and mobile connections to.
I also use Netguard to control which apps have internet and mobile access. However Netguard shows vastly more system apps that I have no idea what they do - I leave these alone. It the moment I'm only trying to reduce the amount of surveillance built into a normal android phone.
I haven't heard of a published an up-to-date rundown of system apps that have no business sending data out of the phone? I know you can just disable all data out connections using Netguard and then spend the rest of your life figuring out which ones to enable to get a useable phone. Perhaps such a list is impractical as it may have to be tailored to each phone and OS? But there might be system apps common to recent android systems that could have the wi-fi and mobile data disabled?
Anything would help if I didn't have to fiddle around so much. The alternative is a degoogled phone. Many google play apps can work on these but there are several important ones I use that don't work and so far I have found no viable open source apps to replace them.
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Maybe the apps that are not available are accessible as a web app? I personally never encountered an app that does not work on Lineage and OmniRom (currently on onmirom). Maybe thats because of MicroG. A bonus to roms is better battery life, I think thank to MicroG
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Maybe the apps that are not available are accessible as a web app? I personally never encountered an app that does not work on Lineage and OmniRom (currently on onmirom). Maybe thats because of MicroG. A bonus to roms is better battery life, I think thank to MicroG
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Can you use Waze and google translate? I've tried the open source alternative to Waze but in the country I'm living in it's too clunky to use. I haven't found an open source alternative to translate (that can scan documents and items in the supermarket, translate them and do all the other things. I might buy a degoogled phone in the future as I don't want to get into the technicalities.
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