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I was wondering if some devs started working on this since the Exynos 9820 officially supports 8K video recording. The phone is limited to 4K since it would cause inconsistencies with the Snapdragon variant. Does anybody have any news about this hack?
Unless 8k is supported by the sensor, you aren't recording in 8k. Doesn't matter what the chip supports. You can't record in 8k with a 4k camera
I remember that a simillar discussion was at the S4 forums 5 years back. It turned out that the camera was perfectly capable but the SoC lacked support.
8k is 33.2 megapixels (7680x4320). The main camera on the S10 phones is 12 megapixels. You're not getting anything close to 8k no matter what a developer tries to do.
Yup, camera does absolutely not have the resolution for that. At best, you'll oversample your 4k video to 8k, won't have more details and your video files will be a lot bigger.
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8k is 33.2 megapixels (7680x4320). The main camera on the S10 phones is 12 megapixels. You're not getting anything close to 8k no matter what a developer tries to do.
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I see. Too bad though
Devhux said:
8k is 33.2 megapixels (7680x4320). The main camera on the S10 phones is 12 megapixels. You're not getting anything close to 8k no matter what a developer tries to do.
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the s20 and s20 plus has 12mp sensor too and capable of 8k recording
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the s20 and s20 plus has 12mp sensor too and capable of 8k recording its possible to have it on s10 but thing is who is gonna put effort in it its the problem many projects and ports are possible by just the word but no one cares or have determination to take it have a look at ananjaser and note4 he does the impossible
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The S20 lineup has HARDWARE support but the S10 lineup does not. The S20 and S20+ use the 64 MP telephoto camera to shoot 8K. The S20 Ultra uses it's 108 MP main camera to shoot 8K. The top count in the S10 lineup is 16MP. The CPU in the S10 is capable of 8K shooting but there isn't a camera with sufficient MP count on board.
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The S20 lineup has HARDWARE support but the S10 lineup does not. The S20 and S20+ use the 64 MP telephoto camera to shoot 8K. The S20 Ultra uses it's 108 MP main camera to shoot 8K. The top count in the S10 lineup is 16MP. The CPU in the S10 is capable of 8K shooting but there isn't a camera with sufficient MP count on board.
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thats resonable however 8k isnt something to panic about with tons of space and the giant display you gonna need i think is s10 is still a full package imo
So, i have been doing some research for my youtube channel lately about the s10 cameras. I own the European S10 with exynos 9820 cipset and Isocell camera sensors. I know that Samsung used dual sourcing again with their phones, and some models out there use Sony sensors,, most probably snapdragon 855 variants. The question is, what sony sensors do they use? Is it the same imx 345 from the s9? My s10 uses the SLSI_SAK2L4 isocell main sensor, opposed to the SLSI_SAK2L3 sensor i had on my note 9. I am asking this because i get very good photos, even compared to the pixel 3 and mate 20 pro but i know many of you are unhappy with the s10 cameras. So, what sony sensor does your s10 have? (Use aida64 and go to devices to find out)
U.S. S10 unlocked sm- g973u1
SD-855
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U.S. S10 unlocked sm- g973u1
SD-855
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So, on the US variant you have (maybe) the same back camera sensors, but a sony selfie camera. But from what i heard, there are phones with sony main back sensors too. How is your experience with the camera?
BTW, here are the screenshots from my exynos variant.
I have Exynos S10+ and photo quality is noticeably worse than my Note 9 Exynos. Photos come out overexposed(too bright) with inaccurate colors(black looks gray), the sharpness is terrible as well which makes picture look blurry. It can all be fixed by Google's GCam APK camera software, but unfortunately GCam does not fully work on Exynos models, it works fine on Snapdragon model S10s.
I have ISOCell sensors for both front and back camera, just like my Note 9.
with gcam the photos are so much better, full sun light samsung cam app is fine.
SONY_IMX374 Front Camera
SLSI_SAK2L4SX Rear Cameras
SD855 Version of S10, Unlocked
VICosPhi said:
I have Exynos S10+ and photo quality is noticeably worse than my Note 9 Exynos. Photos come out overexposed(too bright) with inaccurate colors(black looks gray), the sharpness is terrible as well which makes picture look blurry. It can all be fixed by Google's GCam APK camera software, but unfortunately GCam does not fully work on Exynos models, it works fine on Snapdragon model S10s.
I have ISOCell sensors for both front and back camera, just like my Note 9.
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Well, i have pretty much the opposite experience with my camera. Made some tests VS my European Note 9, both with scene optimizer ON, and s10 photos are as sharp, but much better dynamic range and colors
Both Samsung iso cameras on my s10e exynos
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Well, i have pretty much the opposite experience with my camera. Made some tests VS my European Note 9, both with scene optimizer ON, and s10 photos are as sharp, but much better dynamic range and colors
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In my experience, in bright lights, S10 does capture more vibrant colors than Note9/S9, but when there is low light environment like bar or a room in night time, the sharpness goes haywire and colors look washed out. I can post a couple comparison pics.
Check out this Anandtech review from yesterday, they found the Snapdragon S10 camera images superior to Exynos. Even the DAC for audio 3.5mm jack is screwed up on Exynos. I may just get the stupid US locked Bootloader S10 until Samsung fixes these problems on Exynos.
Link to Anandtech review below, it is all accurate from my experience. The battery issue on Exynos is resolved however and now it meets or beats Snapdragon on battery front.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14072/the-samsung-galaxy-s10plus-review/17
You speak right of my soul. The post processing is a disaster. Just take a normal picture from, idk, a landscape. When you then go into gallery to view the image, it needs like 2-3 seconds to "optimize" it. After this, the image seems to be good at first sight, but if you just slightly zoom into the photo, you can see how unbelievable blurred and unsharp it is. At least unbelievable for a ~1000€ smartphone. My OnePlus 6 made way better pictures. I'm very dissapointed.
Why samsung why?
Ok, Im terrified by my s10 camera. I have the SD S10 with sony IMX374 front camera and the Isocell back cameras, and the pictures are just stupid. My iphone 7 and Google pixel used to take better photos... Photos have less details, less sharpness and they look grainy and soft. The worst part: when I try to take a photo, they look nice before I shoot, in the preview, but then I check the gallery and there...ITS NOTHING LIKE WHAT I SAW IN THE PREVIEW... The photo becomes blurred and lose details.
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SONY_IMX374 Front Camera
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How are the photos? Mine has the same camera sensors but the photos I get are terrible.
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Ok, Im terrified by my s10 camera. I have the SD S10 with sony IMX374 front camera and the Isocell back cameras, and the pictures are just stupid. My iphone 7 and Google pixel used to take better photos... Photos have less details, less sharpness and they look grainy and soft. The worst part: when I try to take a photo, they look nice before I shoot, in the preview, but then I check the gallery and there...ITS NOTHING LIKE WHAT I SAW IN THE PREVIEW... The photo becomes blurred and lose details.
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How are the photos? Mine has the same camera sensors but the photos I get are terrible.
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Excellent for me.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_CMOS Look the notes
The Galaxy S10 family utilizes either one of two sensors: the Samsung S5K3J1 or the Sony IMX374. They are regarded as nearly identical sensors.
11: The Galaxy S10 family utilizes either one of two sensors: the Samsung S5K2L4 or the Sony SAK2L4. They are regarded as nearly identical sensors.
You are wrong.
S10 with exynos has Sony sensor SAK2L4. NOT isocell. Next time do proper research ?
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So, i have been doing some research for my youtube channel lately about the s10 cameras. I own the European S10 with exynos 9820 cipset and Isocell camera sensors. I know that Samsung used dual sourcing again with their phones, and some models out there use Sony sensors,, most probably snapdragon 855 variants. The question is, what sony sensors do they use? Is it the same imx 345 from the s9? My s10 uses the SLSI_SAK2L4 isocell main sensor, opposed to the SLSI_SAK2L3 sensor i had on my note 9. I am asking this because i get very good photos, even compared to the pixel 3 and mate 20 pro but i know many of you are unhappy with the s10 cameras. So, what sony sensor does your s10 have? (Use aida64 and go to devices to find out)
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JanLodz said:
S10 with exynos has Sony sensor SAK2L4. NOT isocell. Next time do proper research ?
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So in AIDA64 "SLSI_SAK2L4SX" and "SLSI_SAK2L4_FIMC_IS" are identical sensors from Sony?
Another topic, does your AIDA list the Sensor of the tele camera? Mine does not. (Most likely the "S5K3M3")
I like to buy the best photo phone - is P30 Pro for me?
I don't care for nothing like NFC and so on....
HELLO
Do You think P30 Pro is now the best photo making phone?
Is it also the best video making phone? Cause in videos Samsung tand to be the king here
I have Samsung Galaxy S8, will I be happy with:
1) photos of P30 Pro
2) videos of P30 Pro
?
How about the world situation with Huawei Phones?
I don't know anything about it. Shall I be calm and go head buy the phone?
S10+ makes worse pics than P30Pro in my opinion
Ive had this phone for over two weeks. I think the photo quality is good in most conditions. Then again I'm coming from a oneplus 6t. As for video the Sony xperia 1 seems to be the best gathered from reviews. I would say this is the best vetsitile camera. Low light conditions and 10x zoom no other phone can compare. Day to day shot this phone has impressed me. For me personally I bought this phone for battery life and camera and the fact performance is just as good if not better then top flagships
Photo quality is great, but battery life is amazing
I came from a S9+ and honestly... In a overall situation, I think that my old phone took better pics with the GCam app... The sharpness was higher, especially from pics of people.
In video, I also prefer the Samsung. When I try to record a video, the focus is in the most of time searching for a focal point, even if is in it face!
Isn't that P30 PRO is a bad phone, but in overall I prefer the S9+ with GCam.
You can only record videos in 4k 30 FPS which is a bummer. If you want the best video making phone, I'd suggest LG V40 or V50 (V40 has a limit of like 10 minutes in 4k 60FPS, not sure about the V50 though). Otherwise you can wait for the upcoming Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro. Those phones should have 4K60FPS recording.
As for photos, the P30 can definitely take some amazing pics and has a great night mode (although it doesn't work for selfies like Pixel's Night Sight. Just a small thing to note.)
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I came from a S9+ and honestly... In a overall situation, I think that my old phone took better pics with the GCam app... The sharpness was higher, especially from pics of people.
In video, I also prefer the Samsung. When I try to record a video, the focus is in the most of time searching for a focal point, even if is in it face!
Isn't that P30 PRO is a bad phone, but in overall I prefer the S9+ with GCam.
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GCam is truly magical, I wish it was possible to port it for Kirin devices.
Im a mate20x owner but i can that all Huawei phones are extremely inconsistencd when it comes to taking photos. I think the main issue is the discrepancy between the viewfinder and the final photos. Most of the the times the picture will have diffferent exposure than the viewfinder and that will introduce tons of issues when taking point and shoot photos.
Also, the skin tones is really bad and seems to target Asian audience, i wish there was a way to edit them like similar to selfies.
Tldr, highly inconsistent software that you cant depend on when taking point and shoot photos.
I posted this in the A71 5G device section but no one seems to want to answer. I was looking through the video quality settings on my A71 and there doesn't seem to be a 4K 60fps option. If i'm not mistaken, the 765g is capable of 4k 60 and I know the camera hardware surely does so what's up with that?
According to this review, there is no 60fps option.
" The Galaxy A71 records videos up to 2160p resolution with the main snapper, the ultrawide, and even the selfie camera. Oddly enough, none does anything at 60fps." https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_a71-review-2065p5.php
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According to this review, there is no 60fps option.
" The Galaxy A71 records videos up to 2160p resolution with the main snapper, the ultrawide, and even the selfie camera. Oddly enough, none does anything at 60fps." https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_a71-review-2065p5.php
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Yes I know there isn't one there I am just asking why there isn't one when the device supports it. Also that's for the 4g A71. Not the 5G. The 5G has a whole different chipset.
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Yes I know there isn't one there I am just asking why there isn't one when the device supports it. Also that's for the 4g A71. Not the 5G. The 5G has a whole different chipset.
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Ah, gotcha.
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Yes I know there isn't one there I am just asking why there isn't one when the device supports it. Also that's for the 4g A71. Not the 5G. The 5G has a whole different chipset.
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You are in the 4g a71 xda thread though
Yes I addressed this at the beginning of my original post because it seems like no one has the 5g variant because I've had that post up for like a month now and no one has said anything at all.
Hi Everyone. I am planning to buy one of these devices.
Talking about GT2, saw multiple reviews saying that there is issue with mic quality while recording video in GT2. I also saw a review video, where it sounded muffled. Some are also mentioning about display quality issue. Good thing is Natural colours in Photos, and OIS in 4K recording.
NEO 3 cons, as per my research have been, heating while recording video, and High saturation in photos. Also no OIS in 4K video recording.
Please suggest your opinion. Both are coming at approx same prices in my country.
I would say better to go with GT 2 because of the 3 year update cycle, unless video mic recording is a major concern for u.
Also ther is the Snapdragon in the GT 2. Even if dimensity is said to be better , I think apps are more optimized for Snapdragon due to there market share.
And there are like intel on PC. It's always the safest choice