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Considering buying, some deciding questions! *Resolved*

Hello!
Im seriously considering buying this phone. I was just going to buy a new one plus 5t but then I heard about this phone. After much digging around I just had some general questions that would help me decide if I should go for the Redmi K 20 pro or One plus 5T. Since im trying to stay below the 450 price range
1. I heard the usb port isn't actually USB Type C but USB 2.0 for file transfers. Meaning super slow file transfer speeds, is this true/noticeable?
2. I heard theres a missing band. Does this affect LTE use in the US in any-way with T-Mobile?
3. At aliexpress is "global rom version" just xiaomi.eu pre-loaded onto the phone? Im not sure which one I should buy China or "global"
(Found here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/330...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_6,searchweb201603_53)
4. Does the xiaomi.eu version receive stable ota updates, are they based on the updates released officially from xiaomi made for the redmi K20 pro?
Do these updates have any issues? If I must manually update, is it recommended to wipe data before every update? Will I have to reinstall twrp every-time?
5. Is there a stable root/ can I still update with root?
6. Does the phone come with a locked bootloader and do I have to go through a 7 day wait period to unlock it?
7. I noticed there is a theme store. Does that work on the xiaomi.eu version. I wont get a phone without a true black theme option, (not like "google's dark mode" which is just a bluesish gray kind of thing. ) Are the themes comparable to one plus accent colors or substratums themes. Id want a phone that can go true black with the option to make settings/notification panel/dialer icon colors uniform. Something like the screen shots attached:
I know it might seem kind of silly but having some cool themes is important to me. Which is why I like the one plus with its true blacks and accent colors + complete subtratum support. But if something similar is obtainable with the redmi the would be great.
So ya if anyone has any input with these questions that would be fantastic
Thanks so much!

CollinsB said:
Hello!
Im seriously considering buying this phone. I was just going to buy a new one plus 5t but then I heard about this phone. After much digging around I just had some general questions that would help me decide if I should go for the Redmi K 20 pro or One plus 5T. Since im trying to stay below the 450 price range
1. I heard the usb port isn't actually USB Type C but USB 2.0 for file transfers. Meaning super slow file transfer speeds, is this true/noticeable?
2. I heard theres a missing band. Does this affect LTE use in the US in any-way with T-Mobile?
3. At aliexpress is "global rom version" just xiaomi.eu pre-loaded onto the phone? Im not sure which one I should buy China or "global"
(Found here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/330...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_6,searchweb201603_53)
4. Does the xiaomi.eu version receive stable ota updates, are they based on the updates released officially from xiaomi made for the redmi K20 pro?
Do these updates have any issues? If I must manually update, is it recommended to wipe data before every update? Will I have to reinstall twrp every-time?
5. Is there a stable root/ can I still update with root?
6. Does the phone come with a locked bootloader and do I have to go through a 7 day wait period to unlock it?
7. I noticed there is a theme store. Does that work on the xiaomi.eu version. I wont get a phone without a true black theme option, (not like "google's dark mode" which is just a bluesish gray kind of thing. ) Are the themes comparable to one plus accent colors or substratums themes. Id want a phone that can go true black with the option to make settings/notification panel/dialer icon colors uniform. Something like the screen shots attached:
I know it might seem kind of silly but having some cool themes is important to me. Which is why I like the one plus with its true blacks and accent colors + complete subtratum support. But if something similar is obtainable with the redmi the would be great.
So ya if anyone has any input with these questions that would be fantastic
Thanks so much!
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0 LTE bands for T-Mobile so you would have a 3G phone

954wrecker said:
0 LTE bands for T-Mobile so you would have a 3G phone
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Oh wow. So i guess one plus 5t for me then
Thanks!

I don't know about US. But I live in Canada and currently I have full 4g speeds on Telus/Koodo although I was told that 3g is the max I will get .
Device transfer speeds are better on par than oneplus6 which I use at my work phone.

If you are willing to import the k20 pro, why not go for an oneplus 7 (Not pro) for the same price?

Phone have only Global ROM not global LTE HW! Just wait for Global version ... try this: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/GB/xiaomi-redmi-855 but there is still CHINA verion only
Lets wait for global version and some ROM without MIUI

It does have usb c port just not 3.1, only a few phones have it such as the OP7 Pro.

Some deciding questions of mine as well ..
I am considering getting the China version for its price, but I need to know that I will be able to switch the OS to the global version, and hopefully flash Pixel Experience in it when it comes out. The former seems already possible (still need confirming if possible, I'm a newbie in all this developer talk); as to the latter, I guess the likelihood is pretty great. Right ?
Or should I just wait and buy the Mi 9T Pro when it's out ? Again, my end result intention is to have this phone running the Pixel Android, and I'd rather go cheap if I can get away with the China version (the hardware being same as global).

1. It's USB 2.0
2. I have T-Mobile, but I'm roaming in China.
3. If you import from China, you'd better choose the global ROM, at first I bought a Chinese ROM version, Chinese MIUI ROM raped me for a whole week.
4,5. I'm on EU ROM now, no need to reinstall twrp every update, you can root, but you should get root again every update.
6. I don't know, I bought it in China with stock locked bl
7. I just checked the theme store, there are some black themes, but in settings, dark mode is enough.

themostunique said:
If you are willing to import the k20 pro, why not go for an oneplus 7 (Not pro) for the same price?
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Because one plus 7 has a notch and no headphone jack.

locki said:
Phone have only Global ROM not global LTE HW! Just wait for Global version ... try this: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/GB/xiaomi-redmi-855 but there is still CHINA verion only
Lets wait for global version and some ROM without MIUI
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Ah thanks for this!
I checked and it seems very likely ill have a lot of trouble with 4G
Oh well

tenshikurabu said:
1. It's USB 2.0
2. I have T-Mobile, but I'm roaming in China.
3. If you import from China, you'd better choose the global ROM, at first I bought a Chinese ROM version, Chinese MIUI ROM raped me for a whole week.
4,5. I'm on EU ROM now, no need to reinstall twrp every update, you can root, but you should get root again every update.
6. I don't know, I bought it in China with stock locked bl
7. I just checked the theme store, there are some black themes, but in settings, dark mode is enough.
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Thanks for the Info!
And the dark mode looks great! Good to know if I get a xiaomi in the the future!

@CollinsB I suffer from the same dilemma, seeing that you've marked the thread *resolved* , what'd you decide??
also i would like to ask one more question, seeing that redmi phones get only one major Android upgrade (I'm using a redmi note 3(L ->M)) do you guys think it would be the same for their new flagship?
because i think op7 would probably get 2 upgrades, it makes the choice a little harder.

tenshikurabu said:
1. It's USB 2.0
2. I have T-Mobile, but I'm roaming in China.
3. If you import from China, you'd better choose the global ROM, at first I bought a Chinese ROM version, Chinese MIUI ROM raped me for a whole week.
4,5. I'm on EU ROM now, no need to reinstall twrp every update, you can root, but you should get root again every update.
6. I don't know, I bought it in China with stock locked bl
7. I just checked the theme store, there are some black themes, but in settings, dark mode is enough.
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Folks , do not buy the fake global ROM version , I Repeat donot. The fake global versions are binded with AliExpress sellers email accounts which means if your unlocked bootloader gets locked accidently and your device is bricked there is no way to go back .
As for Chinese ROM . First there is no issue using Chinese ROM as the English option exists within the ROM and works without a glitch (including play store ) but you can still unlock bootloader and flash the EU or global version on your device .
Check this YouTube video why you shouldn't buy fake global ROM version
https://youtu.be/FQoXPLcoEfU

strangeprotocol said:
Folks , do not buy the fake global ROM version , I Repeat donot. The fake global versions are binded with AliExpress sellers email accounts which means if your unlocked bootloader gets locked accidently and your device is bricked there is no way to go back .
As for Chinese ROM . First there is no issue using Chinese ROM as the English option exists within the ROM and works without a glitch (including play store ) but you can still unlock bootloader and flash the EU or global version on your device .
Check this YouTube video why you shouldn't buy fake global ROM version
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Thank you for your help, luckily I bought the stock version:angel:

kanodiatushar said:
@CollinsB I suffer from the same dilemma, seeing that you've marked the thread *resolved* , what'd you decide??
also i would like to ask one more question, seeing that redmi phones get only one major Android upgrade (I'm using a redmi note 3(L ->M)) do you guys think it would be the same for their new flagship?
because i think op7 would probably get 2 upgrades, it makes the choice a little harder.
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Don't own the phone, but i have a poco F1 which is pretty similar. Based on my experience, there will be a lot of custom roms for the K20 so android versions wont be an issue. For US residents, K20 is lacking several bands, in my case it is missing band 4, which is the main band used by my carrier(i live in central america). While you can get LTE on band 5, speeds and coverage will suffer quite a bit. Check the bands your carriers use, if the phone doesnt have them wait for global version.

kanodiatushar said:
@CollinsB I suffer from the same dilemma, seeing that you've marked the thread *resolved* , what'd you decide??
also i would like to ask one more question, seeing that redmi phones get only one major Android upgrade (I'm using a redmi note 3(L ->M)) do you guys think it would be the same for their new flagship?
because i think op7 would probably get 2 upgrades, it makes the choice a little harder.
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I decided on the oneplus 5T. I got it brand new for 380.
I'm loving it! :good:

Sorry to bother but are you sure it's usb 2 for file transfer and usb-c for charging?
I was planning to buy the 256GB version but if it's really usb 2 that would be a waste. I don't mind if it's not usb 3.1, I was hoping for at least usb 3
would you mind double-checking?
thanks a lot
tenshikurabu said:
1. It's USB 2.0
2. I have T-Mobile, but I'm roaming in China.
3. If you import from China, you'd better choose the global ROM, at first I bought a Chinese ROM version, Chinese MIUI ROM raped me for a whole week.
4,5. I'm on EU ROM now, no need to reinstall twrp every update, you can root, but you should get root again every update.
6. I don't know, I bought it in China with stock locked bl
7. I just checked the theme store, there are some black themes, but in settings, dark mode is enough.
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I have a question too.
Being that the bootloader being unlockable..
Is there a reason we haven't seen any custom roms.?
An issue with sources.
I'm planning for doing development for this device. So this would be a make or break for me..
Thanks

infomedia0 said:
I have a question too.
Being that the bootloader being unlockable..
Is there a reason we haven't seen any custom roms.?
An issue with sources.
I'm planning for doing development for this device. So this would be a make or break for me..
Thanks
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The device hasn't been launched globally yet, and with it's launch set for India soon, im sure a lot of good/cool devs are gonna pick it up.
im counting on that too. It would take atleast a month or so for proper development to begin after launch, i think.

Can Chinese version P40P+ (ELS-AN10) do call recording ?

I am considering selling European version and buying Chinese one. Can the Chinese version do call recording ?
Is it allowed on their androids or android 10 doesn't allow it to any part of the world ?

I don't know, I used to have a Mate 20 Pro (mexican version with carrier firmware), and with the apk for call recording was enough... maybe if there's a way to retrieve the apk from the chinese version (if there's any), it might be possible...

yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %

death365 said:
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
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How to access the settings page?

death365 said:
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
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Hi,
Do you share call recording apk here?

It still won't work on non Chinese versions

Phone then settings
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How to access the settings page?
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death365 said:
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
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OMG ! - Mate, do you know how to extract recorder.apk from that and share it here
PS - I found chinese ROM but I extracting APKs from rom file is way too difficult for me. If anyone can help with that I am willing to share that ROM file.

death365 said:
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
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Any chance you know how to extract APK from your phone so others can try installing it ? Can it be done simply like copying APK or it has to be extracted from ROM file...
PS - (I have ROM file, just dont' know how to open DATA files from inside, any help appreciated)

death365 said:
Phone then settings
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I don't see it. Hmmmm

Sathelp said:
It still won't work on non Chinese versions
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He's talking about Mexican career. I have ELS-N39 not the UK one. I'd like to try but - can you enlighten us a bit why it won't work to spare me of trying ??

Because it's only Chinese variant that it is enabled. In the past when you could unlock the bootloader and change regions, you could change between Chinese and any other area and back and it only works on the Chinese version. It must be restricted in the ROM. I've had Chinese versions with it working, extracted the file and tried on a non Chinese version and it fails installation every time.
I use ACR on non Chinese versions, works ok but callers voice needs turning up.
Try if you want. I'm sure that everyone would appreciate a working version of Huawei call recorder on their phones, it just works perfectly but please feel free to try and feedback to us your findings as this question comes up with every model.
If you do a search, I extracted Android 9 and 10 version to the forum in the past and I can get my Mate 30 pro fired up and extract it again if you want.

In fact here it is attached, Android 10 version from my Chinese Mate 30 Pro. Let us all know how you get on.

Sathelp said:
In fact here it is attached, Android 10 version from my Chinese Mate 30 Pro. Let us all know how you get on.
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Installation failed...!
The parser did not find any certificates in the installation package.

Exactly, that is what happens on a non Chinese version

Sathelp said:
In fact here it is attached, Android 10 version from my Chinese Mate 30 Pro. Let us all know how you get on.
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Thank you. What you have described earlier, I have done in the past with HTC: change region, easily using XTC tool which would allow me to have NFC, Radio and few features which were disabled on EU version.
Your story is totally believable and true; I was just hoping it might work. I'll try anyway, you know the old say "fulls don't believe anyone"
PS - I do have ACR full pro licensed version, I need call recorder to work perfectly, it's part of my job, so even if I have to buy chinese phone, be it huawei or samsung or whatever...
Btw did you know that call recording is allowed in Italy without any announcement. I am really unhappy that this phone isn't really developed properly for various EU regions.

You could always swap to a mi 10 ultra which has call recorder and a pretty near or as good camera. These have call recorder as standard but like me and many others, flash the EU ROM and get the best software options plus. And you keep the call recorder.
I have both but as Huawei are locking down so much, it tempted me away to a near equivalent but fully and actually encouraged to by Xiaomi to use custom ROMs. Check out the XDA Xiaomi mi 10 Ultra forum

Sathelp said:
You could always swap to a mi 10 ultra which has call recorder and a pretty near or as good camera. These have call recorder as standard but like me and many others, flash the EU ROM and get the best software options plus. And you keep the call recorder.
I have both but as Huawei are locking down so much, it tempted me away to a near equivalent but fully and actually encouraged to by Xiaomi to use custom ROMs. Check out the XDA Xiaomi mi 10 Ultra forum
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I may consider the mi 10 ultra, I'm in the uk so will it work on our network? Where did you buy it from?
Sent from my ELS-NX9 using Tapatalk

XDA has an active forum at https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-10-ultra.
For the UK use Wondamobile as they ship to Manchester and then ship to you, so they pay any import duty, delivery in about a week from Hong Kong at a good price, other suppliers out there too.
One of the main issues in the hardware is that it has no band 20 radio. In the UK some operators change their use of band 20 from 3 to 4G, O2 being the main one that may affect you. 5G works a treat as does 4G on all other providers but with O2 and any providers that use O2 network, you won't get 4G from band 20 masts. To be honest, now that most people use 4G, the 3G throughput that it drops down to on these masts is dam good and I don't miss 4G at all. Still get Sky Q out and about via 3G. My second sim is EE and that is fine on 4G, so something to think about before buying.
The stock Chinese ROM has Google but one thing missing on this is location tracing and history. Gpay works fine on the stock ROM.
As Xiaomi encourage custom ROMs, you can unlock the bootloader. As a precaution, once you fully verify your account in mi cloud, and you start to unlock, it makes you wait 168 hours, one week, before allowing you to finish the process. Once unlocked, you can flash the Xiaomi.EU custom ROM if you want, details on the XDA forum or the Xiaomi.EU forum. Paranoid Android may be providing one too at some point. The EU version has done an excellent job on this but it does still have some work to do on CTS profile security but it does have Widevine L1 ( the stock has all security). Gpay too has a temp bug hopefully being fixed soon to but it's ok on Chinese stock and as the custom weekly or stable branches of ROM are based on the Chinese updates.
Have a read before committing. I moved over after being Huawei for a few years but with them locking the bootloader and the Google debako by USA has made me swap brands and to be honest, I am quite happy to do so, Xiaomi are making some dam good customisable phones.

Sathelp said:
XDA has an active forum at https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-10-ultra.
For the UK use Wondamobile as they ship to Manchester and then ship to you, so they pay any import duty, delivery in about a week from Hong Kong at a good price, other suppliers out there too.
One of the main issues in the hardware is that it has no band 20 radio. In the UK some operators change their use of band 20 from 3 to 4G, O2 being the main one that may affect you. 5G works a treat as does 4G on all other providers but with O2 and any providers that use O2 network, you won't get 4G from band 20 masts. To be honest, now that most people use 4G, the 3G throughput that it drops down to on these masts is dam good and I don't miss 4G at all. Still get Sky Q out and about via 3G. My second sim is EE and that is fine on 4G, so something to think about before buying.
The stock Chinese ROM has Google but one thing missing on this is location tracing and history. Gpay works fine on the stock ROM.
As Xiaomi encourage custom ROMs, you can unlock the bootloader. As a precaution, once you fully verify your account in mi cloud, and you start to unlock, it makes you wait 168 hours, one week, before allowing you to finish the process. Once unlocked, you can flash the Xiaomi.EU custom ROM if you want, details on the XDA forum or the Xiaomi.EU forum. Paranoid Android may be providing one too at some point. The EU version has done an excellent job on this but it does still have some work to do on CTS profile security but it does have Widevine L1 ( the stock has all security). Gpay too has a temp bug hopefully being fixed soon to but it's ok on Chinese stock and as the custom weekly or stable branches of ROM are based on the Chinese updates.
Have a read before committing. I moved over after being Huawei for a few years but with them locking the bootloader and the Google debako by USA has made me swap brands and to be honest, I am quite happy to do so, Xiaomi are making some dam good customisable phones.
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True that, If Huawei allow unlocking the bootloader, then their phones will rock and can be sold with people worrying about Google ban, as there will be many developers out there ready to build many custom rom with Google (GMS) Integrated

General [Info] Vivo X70 Pro+

See:
[Update: Launched in India] Vivo's flagship X70 series sports upgraded cameras, bigger batteries, and newer chips
Vivo today unveiled the new Vivo X70 series, featuring three new flagship devices. Read on to learn all about the new phones.
www.xda-developers.com
Vivo X70 Pro+ First Impressions: Flagship Cameras to watch out for
The Vivo X70 Pro+ is Vivo's latest flagship with one of the most versatile camera setups. Here are our initial impressions of the device.
www.xda-developers.com

how can I flash Funtouch OS on the China variant of Vivo X70 Pro Plus, please?

It's not possibile.

I can't seem to find video bokeh mode on my X70 PRO PLUS.But most of the video on YouTube showed it's possible. What am I missing ! Also my phone is running most recent version of OS.

@Kotin89 Do you have funtouch or OriginOS version? There may be a difference. Almost all youtubers get the funtouch version.

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Do you have funtouch or OriginOS version? There may be a difference. Almost all youtubers get the funtouch version.
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I have PD2145F_EX_A_3.11.8_vivo_qcom_LA.UM.9.14.r1-12600-LAHAINA-sm7325-sm8350_split.tar
But I can’t get my phone into EDL
I tried AFTOOL 5.3.50 and he said I need a newer version

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@Kotin89 Do you have funtouch or OriginOS version? There may be a difference. Almost all youtubers get the funtouch version.
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Thank you for the reply @cmmdmx , I have funtouch OS. I did some digging around and it seems like its only available on the X70 pro and not not X70 pro plus. A very weird decision by Vivo !

Kotin89 said:
Thank you for the reply @cmmdmx , I have funtouch OS. I did some digging around and it seems like its only available on the X70 pro and not not X70 pro plus. A very weird decision by Vivo !
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Weird indeed, not available in my origin OS version either.
Could you do a quick check of the supported target fps on Funtouch? Vivo has limited 60fps support in external apps, which is a huge letdown.
Airbeat Device Inspector: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airbeat.device.inspector

Killuminati91 said:
Weird indeed, not available in my origin OS version either.
Could you do a quick check of the supported target fps on Funtouch? Vivo has limited 60fps support in external apps, which is a huge letdown.
Airbeat Device Inspector: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airbeat.device.inspector
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Looks like same as yours !

Hey guys, has the Indian version Funtouch OS with support of Czech language? Is it possible to use that phone in EU without any limitations? Thank you for answers.

are there owners of the Indian version? Can you copy the dialer?
there is a free program
ADB AppControl - 4PDA
ADB AppControl, Управление приложениями через ADB на ПК c удобным интерфейсом
4pda.to
https://4pda.to/forum/dl/post/23911884/ADB_AppControl_171.zip

Je voudrais acheter le téléphone en version indienne. Sur quel site puis je le trouver ?

I'm wondering whether people think it's a mistake to buy the Chinese version of the Vivo X70 Pro+.
I'm an English-speaker living in Italy, and the Chinese version is the only one available; I'd be buying it from Wonda. Compatibility with Italian networks doesn't look to be an issue. My concerns are the usual: bloatware, Chinese interface elements, Jovi instead of Hello Google, etc.
A couple of specific things: will this affect translation across apps (which is generally done via Google Translate)? I need to be able to translate stuff into Italian and Japanese, and from those languages into English.
And I'll need both Nova Launcher and WhatsApp. I do have a family member living in China, so if I have to sign up for things with a local phone number, that won't be an issue. Still, I worry I'm setting myself up for a major headache.

Gnaius said:
I'm wondering whether people think it's a mistake to buy the Chinese version of the Vivo X70 Pro+.
I'm an English-speaker living in Italy, and the Chinese version is the only one available; I'd be buying it from Wonda. Compatibility with Italian networks doesn't look to be an issue. My concerns are the usual: bloatware, Chinese interface elements, Jovi instead of Hello Google, etc.
A couple of specific things: will this affect translation across apps (which is generally done via Google Translate)? I need to be able to translate stuff into Italian and Japanese, and from those languages into English.
And I'll need both Nova Launcher and WhatsApp. I do have a family member living in China, so if I have to sign up for things with a local phone number, that won't be an issue. Still, I worry I'm setting myself up for a major headache.
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I buy my X70 Pro+ from Giztop eshop. No problems, the phone arrived in Ireland in about two weeks. No Custom payes. But I paid a lot, more than 900 €. Normally I always order from Tradingshenzen, but at that time they only had the most expensive version in stock. Today they are all available and 8 + 256 costs a great 827 €. With duty-free transport.
When unpacked from the box, it was already in the Google Play Store phone and the default English. Of course, there is bloatware (which mobile manufacturer doesn't?). Some Vivo applications are going to uninstall. The problem with Vivo apps is that they are 99% of the content is Chinese and I haven't found a way to change that. Actually, I'm not even interested, they just are there and I don't use them.
Origin OS settings are more difficult to understand. It took me a few days / hours to figure out how to allow various permissions and notifications for Google Play apps. The only problem still persists and that is that the phone does not notify me of received FB Messenger messages. In the settings, you can even click on the options "Default App Settings" and change Google applications to make calls for those from Vivo, etc. It's just still an Android OS. and the superstructure is inspired by MIUI and Oxygen OS for me. Google Assistant works when you press the microphone icon on the Google Taskbar, unfortunately it is written "currently unavailable on this device" for voice activation settings.
You don't need a Chinese phone number. You can create an account on the Vivo website via email and then log in to your phone with a password

@forgreenever Thank you! Very helpful. Sounds as if you don't regret not going with the global version.
Funny, I'm looking at Tradingshenzen now, and all of their X70 Pro+ models come with "Firmware: Multi - GE / EN /FR / ES/..." -- which sure sounds like global? (UPDATE: No, that seems to be the way they describe the Chinese version in many stores.)

Gnaius said:
@forgreenever Thank you! Very helpful. Sounds as if you don't regret not going with the global version.
Funny, I'm looking at Tradingshenzen now, and all of their X70 Pro+ models come with "Firmware: Multi - GE / EN /FR / ES/..." -- which sure sounds like global? (UPDATE: No, that seems to be the way they describe the Chinese version in many stores.)
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Yes, these languages are in the official China Version of Origin OS. Few European languages.
I didn't seen nobody who can confirm languages inside India Funtouch OS
PS: Its actually my first phone with china version OS. And first Vivo and other BBK Electronics phone brands.
X70 Pro+ I choose because these great rated cameras. Its great experience for me. I worked before only with only Xiaomi and Samsung smartphones

I´ve got OriginOS version and I will be selling it.
All Google services work fine (Pay, Store etc.) but Android Auto does not work, battery life is poor and I do not get many notifications from messangers like WhatsApp or Signal (even if I set all permissions and disable battery optimization). The ROM is bloated with Chinese crap that cant be uninstalled and my network connection trough WiFi is very unstable.
The phone itself is great and the camera is amazing but OriginOS is complete trash and just not worth the trouble.

houmer56 said:
I´ve got OriginOS version and I will be selling it.
All Google services work fine (Pay, Store etc.) but Android Auto does not work, battery life is poor and I do not get many notifications from messangers like WhatsApp or Signal (even if I set all permissions and disable battery optimization). The ROM is bloated with Chinese crap that cant be uninstalled and my network connection trough WiFi is very unstable.
The phone itself is great and the camera is amazing but OriginOS is complete trash and just not worth the trouble.
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Bloatware can be easily uninstalled through adb command. To receive all notifications you have to remove com.pem.vivo.

maxant69 said:
Bloatware can be easily uninstalled through adb command. To receive all notifications you have to remove com.pem.vivo.
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I have removed some stuff trough ADB already but honestly I am not at age and mood to fiddle with the new phone anymore just to make it work. AndroidAuto not working and poor battery life is the main reason for me to sell it anyway.
Didnt know about com.pem.vivo though. I´ll give it a shot, thanks!

houmer56 said:
I have removed some stuff trough ADB already but honestly I am not at age and mood to fiddle with the new phone anymore just to make it work. AndroidAuto not working and poor battery life is the main reason for me to sell it anyway.
Didnt know about com.pem.vivo though. I´ll give it a shot, thanks!
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As far as I know, Android Auto doesn't work in any Android 11 phone if it is not a system app. Will see what is changed with Android 12 which has again different approach (through Assistant).
And the battery life is good.

Question Trial version not present

Hello guys so i am a happy owner of Oppo Find X3 Pro great phone really is however i have a question
i have a burning desire to test color os 12 when that drops in beta but if i check my Update secrion it doesnt have the Trial Version option
Is there a way to turn it on?
I have a global esim enabled x3 pro in UK (not carrier branded)

Only indonesia and india i think for the moment

Denu228 said:
Hello guys so i am a happy owner of Oppo Find X3 Pro great phone really is however i have a question
i have a burning desire to test color os 12 when that drops in beta but if i check my Update secrion it doesnt have the Trial Version option
Is there a way to turn it on?
I have a global esim enabled x3 pro in UK (not carrier branded)
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Yeah I have the same phone. I'm guessing we're not part of the beta testing for some reason

I have this option available. Global ROM

maxellxl said:
I have this option available. Global ROM
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whats your region

Denu228 said:
whats your region
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Phone bought in Thailand with Oppo Dialer and Oppo messaging app. Currently based in Poland.

maxellxl said:
Phone bought in Thailand with Oppo Dialer and Oppo messaging app. Currently based in Poland.
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Well yeah. We wanna know who has the global version a12 with Google dialer and messaging lol

Question Confused about Xiaomi's strategy

Is there any explanation as to why the top model like "Mi 11 Ultra" is downgraded when it comes to MIUI 13 update and other models get first?
"Mi 11 Ultra" is my first Xiaomi mobile and before this I have used Samsung, HTC and Huawei. It was a little different there. They used to give update to their top models first. I have an EU/Global version of the mobile.
I'm not against why other series get updates first, but I do not understand how Xiaomi thinks? I think that those customers Xiaomi has taken so much money from and sold a premium mobile, should also get premium service in the form of good customer service and perioritation with new versions, bug fixes.
I liked the Xiaomi phone but Software is the only thing that sucks. I did not knew what a android "Bug" was until I used MIUI.
I think Xiaomi should rather think about the customer's user experience and service. I miss a good support from Xiaomi. They do not have customer support over the phone in all countries. Workshops do not have parts for telephones. They do not have their own workshops that Apple or Samsung have. They are many shortcomings if I start pointing out...

@Agent 47
i couldn't agree more, as I also own an EU/Global mi 11 ultra and long for its MIUI 13 update. Come on Xiaomi !

lbmh said:
@Agent 47
i couldn't agree more, as I also own an EU/Global mi 11 ultra and long for its MIUI 13 update. Come on Xiaomi !
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I was pissed when I saw that they started with their cheap models and premium model that 11 Ultra is still waiting for.

Agent 47 said:
Is there any explanation as to why the top model like "Mi 11 Ultra" is downgraded when it comes to MIUI 13 update and other models get first?
"Mi 11 Ultra" is my first Xiaomi mobile and before this I have used Samsung, HTC and Huawei. It was a little different there. They used to give update to their top models first. I have an EU/Global version of the mobile.
I'm not against why other series get updates first, but I do not understand how Xiaomi thinks? I think that those customers Xiaomi has taken so much money from and sold a premium mobile, should also get premium service in the form of good customer service and perioritation with new versions, bug fixes.
I liked the Xiaomi phone but Software is the only thing that sucks. I did not knew what a android "Bug" was until I used MIUI.
I think Xiaomi should rather think about the customer's user experience and service. I miss a good support from Xiaomi. They do not have customer support over the phone in all countries. Workshops do not have parts for telephones. They do not have their own workshops that Apple or Samsung have. They are many shortcomings if I start pointing out...
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My thoughts exactly! It was just an experiment on my part to try out any other Android brand after about 11 years of using Samsung (and Sony) smartphones. Partly, because in my country there is no good alternative (android) to Samsung. So much for this experiment! However, the camera (esp. night photography and 60fps 1080p video) on the Mi 11 ultra is excellent! But it can't replace a Samsung flagship as a "dependable" primary smartphone! Now, waiting for my S22 ultra to arrive.

Dpk1 said:
My thoughts exactly! It was just an experiment on my part to try out any other Android brand after about 11 years of using Samsung (and Sony) smartphones. Partly, because in my country there is no good alternative (android) to Samsung. So much for this experiment! However, the camera (esp. night photography and 60fps 1080p video) on the Mi 11 ultra is excellent! But it can't replace a Samsung flagship as a "dependable" primary smartphone! Now, waiting for my S22 ultra to arrive.
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I personally am a big fan of Huawei but due to lack of support for Google. I chose to try Xiaomi and bought a top model that was almost impossible to buy now. Miui for my part seems very immature software. Xiaomi should invest in the software department and rather hire Huawei's unemployed developers. Have you seen that in how short a time Huawei has built a new OS and app store.

Most models received a January update but my "Mi 11 Ultra" is still not on the list and runs "Android security update" from November 2021.

I am running MIUI 13 from 5th Jan 2022, 11U is one of the first mi phone that have miui 13, but in CN market
I know how u feel, but let first think about why. 11U is almost no sale at global market, not like 11 (standard one). So we can tell like 11U is for CN market, so they will bring 1st update to CN market. Other model got alot of sales in global market (like 11) will get update for global market fast like in your picture u posted

AFAIK (but I might be wrong) no public official MIUI 13 with Android 12 versions have been released so far for the MI11x global models.
Only beta versions or versions reserved to the so called "MI Pilot".

I follow you 100% but why you dont try the stable eu rom then?

Just received Miui13 last week. Not big of a change i'm afraid

Bart3n said:
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Just received Miui13 last week. Not big of a change i'm afraid
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Oh wait, how can u have that fast
I still cant find global fw miui 13 anywhere
/found it https://adimorahblog.com/xiaomi-mi-11-ultra-android-12-based-miui-13-update/
It's EEA global stable beta fw for mi pilot program

Miui 13/Android 12 was released for EU rom, was it late December or early January, so it have been here for a while, but that's still not the official xiaomi, but the xiaomi eu, which is 2 different things.
Personally i prefer a rock stable phone and im still on the miui 12.5.20 which works 100% good for me, dont need any other stuff.

BigDisplay said:
Miui 13/Android 12 was released for EU rom, was it late December or early January, so it have been here for a while, but that's still not the official xiaomi, but the xiaomi eu, which is 2 different things.
Personally i prefer a rock stable phone and im still on the miui 12.5.20 which works 100% good for me, dont need any other stuff.
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That EU is CN rom, btw
And i totally agree with your 2nd line. All i need is a solid stable phone

Had same thoughts as you guys - why top line model is left out as last one to get MUI13.
Just checked it is available now global version, no beta . downloading now lets see if it fix AA wireless mess , fingers crossed.

droidDHD said:
Had same thoughts as you guys - why top line model is left out as last one to get MUI13.
Just checked it is available now global version, no beta . downloading now lets see if it fix AA wireless mess , fingers crossed.
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Where are u check it?
Only miui 13 stable beta for EEA now

hungragezone said:
Where are u check it?
Only miui 13 stable beta for EEA now
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Stable Miui 13 for EEA is available on Norway from today.

Unfortunately I do not have the time and opportunity to install it tonight, but I will do it tomorrow.

hungragezone said:
Where are u check it?
Only miui 13 stable beta for EEA now
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hungragezone said:
Oh wait, how can u have that fast
I still cant find global fw miui 13 anywhere
/found it https://adimorahblog.com/xiaomi-mi-11-ultra-android-12-based-miui-13-update/
It's EEA global stable beta fw for mi pilot program
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Agent 47 said:
Stable Miui 13 for EEA is available on Norway from today. View attachment 5549155
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As I posted before, first it is stable beta for mi pilot user. May be it roll out for everybody now. Sound good for our phone.

Yesterday I received the notification of the available OTA update to official MIUI 13 Android 12 (EEA Rom, Italy)
Not updating yet, waiting for more info about the new MIUI 13...