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Just upgraded my firmware to Cyan ROM

And I have followed the creating of partition at the cyan wiki page for the Apps2SD but when I install programs from the market, my phone internal storage still decrease.. What's going on?

bryant_16 said:
And I have followed the creating of partition at the cyan wiki page for the Apps2SD but when I install programs from the market, my phone internal storage still decrease.. What's going on?
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your apps are stored on the sdcard however the data is still stored in internal memory

Erm okay, my bad. But it will still take out phone storage memory too? In that case, the phone memory storage will still decrease when more applications are installed in?

bryant_16 said:
Erm okay, my bad. But it will still take out phone storage memory too? In that case, the phone memory storage will still decrease when more applications are installed in?
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no prob man ... yea it should take a lil bit of memory for the more apps you have ... but very very insignificant ... i have 100s of apps installed and only like 20mb being used up lol

I see. Okay, that's great! Anyway, can I check with you, since applications are installed in SD, what data are actually installed in the phone memory, what are these datas? If I want to uninstall an application, what's the proper way of doing it since there is these data at the phone memory too?

anyone????

if i am not mistaken, the data still stored are mostly the cache, the setting for each programs (preferences etc).. just remove it normally using the app manager or from the downloads page on the market.

Hi there, when you are saying remove normally is through the 'Manage Applications' tab right?

[Q] can i delete app installers?

hi,
very new to android here.
after i download and install an app from either the browser or the market place can i delete the installer once it's done (the installers are .apk right?) and if i can where does the market place store them?
Thanks

Liambass said:
hi,
very new to android here.
after i download and install an app from either the browser or the market place can i delete the installer once it's done (the installers are .apk right?) and if i can where does the market place store them?
Thanks
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don't worry about it... really don't

the trouble is that i only have about 4.5MB left of internal storage even though i've set the phone to install apps to SD

As far as I know, the APK's are not stored on the phone. So that will not make a difference. If you are new to android... two things.
1. Welcome to the world of awesomeness! :]
2. One unfortunate thing you will have to learn about the G1, is that the internal storage is rather terrible. No app can be COMPLETELY moved to the SD card, thus. Even with just 10 to 15 or so apps, you will probably be running into the "low space" error.
Are you rooted, and/or have a custom ROM installed?

yeah, i'm running Cyanogenmod 6.1.0
I've deleted a couple of apps that didn't run very well so i've freed up i little more space.... i guess i'll see how i go.
Cheers Guys

Liambass said:
yeah, i'm running Cyanogenmod 6.1.0
I've deleted a couple of apps that didn't run very well so i've freed up i little more space.... i guess i'll see how i go.
Cheers Guys
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have you looked into doing mtd mod... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717874

mikeyrave said:
have you looked into doing mtd mod... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717874
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i just had a look.... a lot of it means very little to me, what does it achieve?

Liambass said:
i just had a look.... a lot of it means very little to me, what does it achieve?
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It changes your partition sizes so for example lets say you have 3 equal partitions all are 100mb
100 cache
100 data
100 system
You end up taken a bit from other partitions like cache to make data larger

i've had another look and it seems fairly simple.
my system partition is currently 90MB but that's pretty much full does that sound about right?
also how big does the cache need to be, mine is currently 30MB but i'm only using 3 or so. what sort of things are stored in the cache? i've been having a problem with SMSs (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217173)will it help or hinder that?
and will applying this mod wipe everything i already have installed?

[Q] Galaxy Note - Internal Memory low

Hi. My Note's Internal memory (2GB) is almost (< 200MB left) but the applications only take up about 700MB. Using System Tuner I can see there is 1.06GB of "others". Do someone know what this "others" is and how to reclaim some space from it? Thanks in advance.

its also your data from apps and sms etc

Check in system/lost+found.. Delete whatever is in that folder.

pumpump said:
Hi. My Note's Internal memory (2GB) is almost (< 200MB left) but the applications only take up about 700MB. Using System Tuner I can see there is 1.06GB of "others". Do someone know what this "others" is and how to reclaim some space from it? Thanks in advance.
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For storage cleaning try SD Maid from the market,
to check what is what and how many space it takes you could try Total Commander on PC (Alt-Shift-Enter displays folders size), or one of those Android apps (did not test any of them):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.levelokment.storageanalyser
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ponpocostep.foldersizechart

p107r0 said:
For storage cleaning try SD Maid from the market,
to check what is what and how many space it takes you could try Total Commander on PC (Alt-Shift-Enter displays folders size), or one of those Android apps (did not test any of them):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.levelokment.storageanalyser
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ponpocostep.foldersizechart
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Thanks all for your help. I have tried SD Maid and found that most of the 1.06G "others" are in the logs folder. I have deleted them and reclaimed the space. :laugh:

nokiamodeln91 said:
Check in system/lost+found.. Delete whatever is in that folder.
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Does this erase my calls, sms, contacts etc, app cookies etc??
I want to ask in simple, Is it SAFE??

danishalirana said:
Does this erase my calls, sms, contacts etc, app cookies etc??
I want to ask in simple, Is it SAFE??
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No

nokiamodeln91 said:
No
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NO as in NOT SAFE or Doesn't erase the data

danishalirana said:
NO as in NOT SAFE or Doesn't erase the data
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No as in it is safe.

treacherous_hawk said:
No as in it is safe.
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Storage issue

I was tinkering round this morning and looked into my devices storage and saw that 27gb of 32gb were being used.
Did some math on my own:
Apps: 2.82gb
Music: 3.23gb
Photos: 1.12gb
Other: 19.85gb:
-Nandroids: 9gb
-Titanium Back up 1gb
2 roms: 1.5gb
Somewhere in the "Other" category something is eating up 9gb of space. I used my file explorer and couldn't pin anything that big down. I am going to offload my nandroids but I shouldn't have to.
Anyone else run into this or know what this 9gb "other" hog could be
Is there an app or system setting I am missing to ID this?
Sprint HTC One
Running: D3rpONE

Found My Screenie...

tdubbs27 said:
Found My Screenie...
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Your 'other' is really suspicious. Mine is ~7GB. I'd do a factory reset, easiest way IMO.

If you're flashing roms or doing backups with any other apps (CWM or something). I'm guessing they would go there. Check your download folder as well if you do a lot of downloading.
You may also try installing airdroid and using the desktop filemanager to whittle down your list as well.

Download Disk Usage. It shows you visually whats taking up space. It's amazing.

Thanks for advice using disk usage. I don't know why I didn't reinstall that sooner.
I did some digging and searching around the interwebs and found out this is a known issue. Other people have noticed it in droves. From my early intel: when you delete files you lose data blocks and they are marked as bad. If you ran dsk chk they would come up as corrupt. People are losing more storage space than I did.
2 solutions came up:
1. Reformat your SD: Copy everything to PC>reformat>copy everything back....time consuming but worked from what I could tell
2. There is an update that has been released overseas(asia, india, etc) that seems to fix this issue. It's a known HTC ONE issue so maybe someday I will see an update that will fix it.
If you are experiencing the same thing you can do some light reading:
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630914
or
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632999
Thanks for your help...

tdubbs27 said:
Thanks for advice using disk usage. I don't know why I didn't reinstall that sooner.
I did some digging and searching around the interwebs and found out this is a known issue. Other people have noticed it in droves. From my early intel: when you delete files you lose data blocks and they are marked as bad. If you ran dsk chk they would come up as corrupt. People are losing more storage space than I did.
2 solutions came up:
1. Reformat your SD: Copy everything to PC>reformat>copy everything back....time consuming but worked from what I could tell
2. There is an update that has been released overseas(asia, india, etc) that seems to fix this issue. It's a known HTC ONE issue so maybe someday I will see an update that will fix it.
If you are experiencing the same thing you can do some light reading:
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630914
or
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632999
Thanks for your help...
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I'm definitely going to check on this
Sent from my HTCONE using xda premium

Also check if you are using Google play music and have a lot of playlists pinned. I believe that and movies actually show there in other.
Sent from my HTC One

I couldn't just let this rest. I like to flash roms and knew I would need strorage space for some nandroids in the future. Here are somethings I tried and had issues with.
Formatting the SD card: I could not for the life of me get this done.
-Nothing in TWRP
-Couldn't do it in windows
-Couldn't mount the sd in TWRP or regularly and get it to show up in windows file explorer as a drive to format
Eventual solution:
I formated the data in TWRP using the format data option. I copied everything over before I did it. When I came back I flashed a new rom and was still missing 7 gb. No apps, no music, nothing. SD card was empty still only showed 25 gb available.
Conclusion: I think I have some bad sectors in their somewhere. I read that I could go back completely to stock and try to star this whole process over.
One question: Can I unlock using HTCdev as many times as I want or is it a one time thing?
Anyone else in the same boat?
help...

tdubbs27 said:
I couldn't just let this rest. I like to flash roms and knew I would need strorage space for some nandroids in the future. Here are somethings I tried and had issues with.
Formatting the SD card: I could not for the life of me get this done.
-Nothing in TWRP
-Couldn't do it in windows
-Couldn't mount the sd in TWRP or regularly and get it to show up in windows file explorer as a drive to format
Eventual solution:
I formated the data in TWRP using the format data option. I copied everything over before I did it. When I came back I flashed a new rom and was still missing 7 gb. No apps, no music, nothing. SD card was empty still only showed 25 gb available.
Conclusion: I think I have some bad sectors in their somewhere. I read that I could go back completely to stock and try to star this whole process over.
One question: Can I unlock using HTCdev as many times as I want or is it a one time thing?
Anyone else in the same boat?
help...
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If you go back completely to stock, your bootloader will probably still be unlocked (unless you relock and use an RUU). The code you got to disable your bootloader the first time around will work however many times you want. To be honest though, I wouldn't be surprised if that 7GB were used by the system ROM/frameworks and I'd be even less surprised if you still found files on your SD card in a .Trashes folder or something from earlier. Formatting data tends to leave weird remnants all over the place.
Also, +1 to the Google Music thing. Definitely shows up in other for me.

Rirere said:
If you go back completely to stock, your bootloader will probably still be unlocked (unless you relock and use an RUU). The code you got to disable your bootloader the first time around will work however many times you want. To be honest though, I wouldn't be surprised if that 7GB were used by the system ROM/frameworks and I'd be even less surprised if you still found files on your SD card in a .Trashes folder or something from earlier. Formatting data tends to leave weird remnants all over the place.
Also, +1 to the Google Music thing. Definitely shows up in other for me.
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Thank you. It gives me more options and more to think about.
-Can't find anything substantial in a .trashes folder
-Dont use any Google Music services
Really wish I could truly reformat/check for bad sectors to find out if it's corrupt or just buggy...

tdubbs27 said:
Thank you. It gives me more options and more to think about.
-Can't find anything substantial in a .trashes folder
-Dont use any Google Music services
Really wish I could truly reformat/check for bad sectors to find out if it's corrupt or just buggy...
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, try running Fix permissions. It'll tell you for one if it hits any errors (because it finds files it can't change perms for), and may help with the issue (or use the Fix permissions tool in ROM Manager if you'd rather not use recovery).

Rirere said:
Do you have a custom recovery? If so, try running Fix permissions. It'll tell you for one if it hits any errors (because it finds files it can't change perms for), and may help with the issue (or use the Fix permissions tool in ROM Manager if you'd rather not use recovery).
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-Ran fix permissions in recovery: no errors everything went as it should
-Ran fix persmissions in viper rom: terminal settings: no errors everything ran as it should
Is there a way to reformat the SD card/partition? I don't think the TWRP method really reformatted it. Just erased everything.
Clockwork gives you the ability to set a swap partition but not a true reformat

tdubbs27 said:
-Ran fix permissions in recovery: no errors everything went as it should
-Ran fix persmissions in viper rom: terminal settings: no errors everything ran as it should
Is there a way to reformat the SD card/partition? I don't think the TWRP method really reformatted it. Just erased everything.
Clockwork gives you the ability to set a swap partition but not a true reformat
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Have you tried TWRP's advanced wipe? If you haven't, it's worth a shot, but I cannot stress enough that you should be careful. This is exactly the kind of problem that you can bork your phone trying to fix for no good reason.

Rirere said:
Have you tried TWRP's advanced wipe? If you haven't, it's worth a shot, but I cannot stress enough that you should be careful. This is exactly the kind of problem that you can bork your phone trying to fix for no good reason.
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Your exactly correct on the last point. I am going to keep listening and looking. I think/hope/pray the update the internationals got can be applied some way in the future and may help out a bit. Just going to have to utilize some cloud storage a little better.
it's not totally/technically broke and I am not going to do more harm.
Thanks for all your help and suggestions

I've been having the same problem, but notice something interesting. My phone said I had almost 20GB in the other category, and I didn't know why.
I downloaded disk usage to get a detail view of what's going on in my storage and I was able to clear 12GB with just deleting old downloads, TWRP backups, Titanium Backups. Still cleaning house.
Also after doing some research, the data that's stored by your apps (ext. PS3 Trophies is a 8mb download, buts it's total size is 31mb on the phone) is counted in the Other section and not part of the app data. So the more apps u have like this installed, the more likely the Other section will balloon in size.
Remember, when u remove and app, it's stored data is still in the phone storage.
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mprunty said:
I've been having the same problem, but notice something interesting. My phone said I had almost 20GB in the other category, and I didn't know why.
I downloaded disk usage to get a detail view of what's going on in my storage and I was able to clear 12GB with just deleting old downloads, TWRP backups, Titanium Backups. Still cleaning house.
Also after doing some research, the data that's stored by your apps (ext. PS3 Trophies is a 8mb download, buts it's total size is 31mb on the phone) is counted in the Other section and not part of the app data. So the more apps u have like this installed, the more likely the Other section will balloon in size.
Remember, when u remove and app, it's stored data is still in the phone storage.
Sent from my HTCONE using xda premium
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I use disk useage but it doesn't even show my max storage space as 32gb. It shows 26gb. See Screenshot: So I have 6gb that aren't even registering as available storage. I was trying to clean out some old app storage but the space they use is so small. Would they be worth it? I think the fact I am missing 6 gb is more troubling.

I could be wrong, but doesn't the phone only have 27GB of formatted space?
Sent from My Only "One"

any device with internal memory will lose some. this is the exact reason i havent gotten one yet bc im praying that sprint will get the 64gb version. i will say that if they are going to advertise a device at xyz gb then they should build in the extra needed for system so we actually get what we pay for. cloud storage and otg are there but still a slight pain in the butt.
guess ill be holding on to my evo lte for another yr or so.

xanmanz31 said:
cloud storage and otg are there but still a slight pain in the butt.
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Is OTG standard in Android? Does the One need to be rooted?

Too much space being taken up in internal memory by 'System & other' category?

Hi All,
I am in possession of an M7 and have been surprised by how much of the internal memory is taken up just by Android and Apps; 23.67 of 32.00 Gigs have already been used, and I have not taken a single photo with my phone, uploaded music to it, etc.!
When I look in Settings > Storage I notice that most storage is being used by the 'System & other' category, which is currently consuming 19.39 Gigs!!
I have performed a little research on this before posting, and have turned of the 'Recycle Bin' in ES Explorer, removed same, and deleted the .estrongs folder using TWRP.
I can't see how my Apps could possibly take up so much space.
Can anybody assist with increasing my storage space?
Kind Regards,
Davo

That it's not normal, make a factory reset or reflash your rom.

Not normal. There are some storage analyzer apps that help you determine what precisely is using space, I use this one: com.google.android.diskusage
And if you cannot manually clean out the stuff, factory reset or flashing a ROM should fix things.. If the partitions are fked up, I have no idea how to fix that.

rbrandser said:
If the partitions are fked up, I have no idea how to fix that.
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RUU will sort out partition problem

donkeykong1 said:
RUU will sort out partition problem
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Yes, you're right. RUU is ultimate fix, but it would be nice if we could easily resize partitions.
Like, I have a debloated ROM, thrown out 2 GB of crap. So, now I have a lot of free unused space in /system partition, but no easy way to utlize it. I could of courze install more apps as system-apps, but..
Anyway, yes, RUU = Fix.