Morning folks,
Had my Note 9 a few weeks now. Quite happy with it, and haven't updated from stock oreo yet.
Now that people have had a chance to tweak and play with Pie, I have a few questions -
1) how does battery life compare?
2) are you still able to remap the Bixby button? Currently using bxactions.
3) is split screen still available?
4) what functions have been lost, if any?
5) start functions have been gained, if any?
Look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Cheers for now,
John
There are threads here already about Pie in general (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-one-ui-impressions-t3896792) and about your specific questions (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-battery-life-experience-t3895668).
Jwsail said:
Morning folks,
Had my Note 9 a few weeks now. Quite happy with it, and haven't updated from stock oreo yet.
Now that people have had a chance to tweak and play with Pie, I have a few questions -
1) how does battery life compare?
2) are you still able to remap the Bixby button? Currently using bxactions.
3) is split screen still available?
4) what functions have been lost, if any?
5) start functions have been gained, if any?
Look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Cheers for now,
John
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I can give you Information about my device with my personal using, but remember things can be diffrent from device to device and User to user.
1. Battery getting better and better. Atm i get 2.5 Days runtime with 6 h SoT
2. I guess yes. My bixbyremapper ist working fine so far..
3. You mean this app paring that you can use 2 apps together at the screen ? Then yes *Edit* maybe im too stupid but i cant find this function anymore?! ? Strange..
4. Wifi WPS for example.. more i dont know.
5. Hm my Bad english. Dont understand what you mean. I will translate and edit Posting later okay ?
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There are threads here already about Pie in general (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-one-ui-impressions-t3896792) and about your specific questions (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-battery-life-experience-t3895668).
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Thanks Gary. I've had a look at these and they don't what to have been added to for a few months. Maybe they were for the beta?
John
Treasarion said:
I can give you Information about my device with my personal using, but remember things can be diffrent from device to device and User to user.
1. Battery getting better and better. Atm i get 2.5 Days runtime with 6 h SoT
2. I guess yes. My bixbyremapper ist working fine so far..
3. You mean this app paring that you can use 2 apps together at the screen ? Then yes *Edit* maybe im too stupid but i cant find this function anymore?! ? Strange..
4. Wifi WPS for example.. more i dont know.
5. Hm my Bad english. Dont understand what you mean. I will translate and edit Posting later okay ?
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Thanks for that. I'll keep looking into it.
Cheers for now,
John
Jwsail said:
Thanks Gary. I've had a look at these and they don't what to have been added to for a few months. Maybe they were for the beta?
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No, they're post-beta. Android Pie started distributing to US Note9s in January.
One big problem if you haven't updated yet is that your phone may be exposed to several critical remote-takeover vulnerabilities that have been fixed during the past few months.
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No, they're post-beta. Android Pie started distributing to US Note9s in January.
One big problem if you haven't updated yet is that your phone may be exposed to several critical remote-takeover vulnerabilities that have been fixed during the past few months.
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I find the new security update really interesting.
Remote takeover? I just wonder who why and how this could be done? I just dont get it
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Remote takeover? I just wonder who why and how this could be done? I just dont get it
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There's plenty of introductory material online that explains how security vulnerabilities work. Also, Google and Samsung publish monthly descriptions of the vulnerabilities they fix.
Remote-takeover vulnerabilities allow others anywhere in the world to monitor and record everything you type on your phone (including account credentials) and everything you read, see, and hear on your phone. Attackers can read, write, delete, or modify any information or media stored on your phone, or send messages from you to your contacts or to others. They can track your location and turn on your microphone and cameras.
You don't have to be singled out. Many attacks these days are automated and unleashed on millions of target devices. Large international crime organizations increasingly carry out such attacks. The most common reason is theft, but blackmail is also a growing concern. Or attackers can use your phone as a distribution center for material that they don't want traced to them.
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There's plenty of introductory material online that explains how security vulnerabilities work. Also, Google and Samsung publish monthly descriptions of the vulnerabilities they fix.
Remote-takeover vulnerabilities allow others anywhere in the world to monitor and record everything you type on your phone (including account credentials) and everything you read, see, and hear on your phone. Attackers can read, write, delete, or modify any information or media stored on your phone, or send messages from you to your contacts or to others. They can track your location and turn on your microphone and cameras.
You don't have to be singled out. Many attacks these days are automated and unleashed on millions of target devices. Large international crime organizations increasingly carry out such attacks. The most common reason is theft, but blackmail is also a growing concern. Or attackers can use your phone as a distribution center for material that they don't want traced to them.
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Is there actually any proof that this has happened?
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Is there actually any proof that this has happened?
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There's proof that some of it has happened and that all of it is easily accomplished using known exploits. What you do about it is a tradeoff, similar to home-security issues. You can leave your front door unlocked and probably not get robbed; or you can use locks, alarms etc. and possibly still get robbed. The tighter your security, the less likely it is for there to be a breach; but tighter security comes at a cost (money, convenience, etc.). So you need to weigh what you stand to lose against what you stand to gain, and that depends on individual circumstances.
Call recording and Swift installer support. Two biggest reasons for staying on Oreo for me.
This update is so bad I can only compare it to Windows ME & Vista. I downgraded thanking God because my bootloader stayed in v1.0.
It really seems like the Note 9 hardware is not built for this One UI Pie.
I'm sorry to be reading all this dislike of the Pie+OneUI update. I just bought the Note9 and really wanted to go straight to Pie+OneUI because of themes and because by now Pie should be in good shape--after all, Android 9 is a year old and has been rolled out to this device for three months? My note has been turned on for about 30 minutes, and I'm applying OS updates as I type. How bad can it possibly be?
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I'm sorry to be reading all this dislike of the Pie+OneUI update. I just bought the Note9 and really wanted to go straight to Pie+OneUI because of themes and because by now Pie should be in good shape--after all, Android 9 is a year old and has been rolled out to this device for three months? My note has been turned on for about 30 minutes, and I'm applying OS updates as I type. How bad can it possibly be?
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Just do the updates to the OS and then factory reset device.
Good as Gold from there on
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Just do the updates to the OS and then factory reset device.
Good as Gold from there on
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Ouch! I just booted for the first time (into a year old version of Android8), walked through initial wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup, did all the sequential updates (about 7 or 8 downloads and reboots) to get to the latest version ***CSD1 of Android9+OneUI, and then I installed about 30 of my apps, and finally installed Nova Prime and setup my homescreen (all took a few hours).
Think there will be performance issues because of all the sequential updates? Only to be remedied now by doing a factory reset? (assuming the idea is to load ***CSD1 without all the incremental update steps)... And just to confirm, a factory reset would roll me back to the latest Android9 version with security updates which were released in April this year, and not to the original year-old Android 8 that the phone device shipped with, correct? (I don't see why the updates would not also update the factory reset image)........
Okay, as I think about this... I believe there is no "factory reset image".... The way Android works is the /system partition IS the "factory reset image", and a factory reset operation simply wipes everything in the /data partition (and cache, etc). Therefore, since I did my updates before installing all of my apps, then I believe that doing a factory reset now and re-installing all of my apps would only result in a possible change to the 'stuff' in /data that relates to the initial setup: wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup--app-reinstall would result in the same states, since in both cases, apps were installed after all updates. And since wifi and account setup data is likely no different on the Oreo ROM vs Pie, a factory reset at this point seems like a complete waste of time and probably bad advice. Not so sure there is any reason to do a factory reset immediately after initial account setup and updates. I think I just rubber-chickened this thread!
In any case,
What can I test and what results should I look for to see if the sequence of updates has caused performance issues that a factory reset would cure?
Thanks for your response, Hazzay!
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Ouch! I just booted for the first time (into a year old version of Android8), walked through initial wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup, did all the sequential updates (about 7 or 8 downloads and reboots) to get to the latest version ***CSD1 of Android9+OneUI, and then I installed about 30 of my apps, and finally installed Nova Prime and setup my homescreen (all took a few hours).
Think there will be performance issues because of all the sequential updates? Only to be remedied now by doing a factory reset? (assuming the idea is to load ***CSD1 without all the incremental update steps)... And just to confirm, a factory reset would roll me back to the latest Android9 version with security updates which were released in April this year, and not to the original year-old Android 8 that the phone device shipped with, correct? (I don't see why the updates would not also update the factory reset image)........
Okay, as I think about this... I believe there is no "factory reset image".... The way Android works is the /system partition IS the "factory reset image", and a factory reset operation simply wipes everything in the /data partition (and cache, etc). Therefore, since I did my updates before installing all of my apps, then I believe that doing a factory reset now and re-installing all of my apps would only result in a possible change to the 'stuff' in /data that relates to the initial setup: wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup--app-reinstall would result in the same states, since in both cases, apps were installed after all updates. And since wifi and account setup data is likely no different on the Oreo ROM vs Pie, a factory reset at this point seems like a complete waste of time and probably bad advice. Not so sure there is any reason to do a factory reset immediately after initial account setup and updates. I think I just rubber-chickened this thread!
In any case,
What can I test and what results should I look for to see if the sequence of updates has caused performance issues that a factory reset would cure?
Thanks for your response, Hazzay!
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In your case you don't need a factory reset, you updated your device straight out of the box which is just as good as a clean install. A factory reset sometimes helps users who have been running apps for a while on the previous version, and restoring user data causes system instability due to the OS major upgrade.
Also, I've done exactly the same thing 3 months ago, and haven't had a single issue [emoji846]
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Ouch! I just booted for the first time (into a year old version of Android8), walked through initial wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup, did all the sequential updates (about 7 or 8 downloads and reboots) to get to the latest version ***CSD1 of Android9+OneUI, and then I installed about 30 of my apps, and finally installed Nova Prime and setup my homescreen (all took a few hours).
Think there will be performance issues because of all the sequential updates? Only to be remedied now by doing a factory reset? (assuming the idea is to load ***CSD1 without all the incremental update steps)... And just to confirm, a factory reset would roll me back to the latest Android9 version with security updates which were released in April this year, and not to the original year-old Android 8 that the phone device shipped with, correct? (I don't see why the updates would not also update the factory reset image)........
Okay, as I think about this... I believe there is no "factory reset image".... The way Android works is the /system partition IS the "factory reset image", and a factory reset operation simply wipes everything in the /data partition (and cache, etc). Therefore, since I did my updates before installing all of my apps, then I believe that doing a factory reset now and re-installing all of my apps would only result in a possible change to the 'stuff' in /data that relates to the initial setup: wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup--app-reinstall would result in the same states, since in both cases, apps were installed after all updates. And since wifi and account setup data is likely no different on the Oreo ROM vs Pie, a factory reset at this point seems like a complete waste of time and probably bad advice. Not so sure there is any reason to do a factory reset immediately after initial account setup and updates. I think I just rubber-chickened this thread!
In any case,
What can I test and what results should I look for to see if the sequence of updates has caused performance issues that a factory reset would cure?
Thanks for your response, Hazzay!
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You won't have an issue as you had a new phone with no previous data on it.
Ps of you factory reset a device it won't go back to the OS version it came out of the box. It will remain on the latest version of the update.
Updated to Pie immediately after turning on the Note 9 for the first time, then installed my apps, then installed my sim. This is THE SMOOTHEST, best OS, best battery efficiency, best looking.....
..... it's the best!
is the note 9 Pie's camera quality improved? Still staying on Oreo for months as I have not ever heard of praises for improved cameras and still some users need to install GCam but seems note 9 Pie does not support GCam ?
for 1 week the battery doesn't last a day, and I hardly use it, and I don't have thousands of apps, etc. One question can be made a reset to this phone, since at the beginning it was perfect ...
Thank you and is the same thing happening to someone?
Did you make analysis which applications use net/wifi/gps in background? issue wakelocks?
Did you check whether it is related to personal revival of infamous CPU frequency sticking bug, solved long time ago (and. if yes, did you clear Dalvik cache, etc.)?
Did you disable all unneeded apps (including pre-installed trash like Mi-Services).
Are you using battery saving mode? IMO switch it off immediately.
Did you set which applications may work in background? Having root you could also krystalize most of applications in more detailed way.
Have not you killed your battery freezing it or charging it permanently?
I am asking all this because nobody else is complains on this specific update and this specific issue in several forums I read from time-to-time (except that usually many complain on initially low battery capacity and now many complain on installation problems with this specific update).
One single app working in background and using net/wifi/gps can drain battery in a few hours.
thanks for responding, as I always have the phone only with the wifi on and the rest all off, I do not have many applications that consume battery only the WhatsApp, you can do a hard reset to this device? as it came with android one and now has android 10
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..., you can do a hard reset to this device? as it came with android one and now has android 10
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Hmm, stock ROMs for MiA2 were/are Android One, versions 8.0, 8.1, 9.0, 10.0. And yes, if you did not make factory reset updating from 9.0 to 10.0, you are to make it (beware losing user data in phone and forced initial setup)
I am experiencing screen hick-ups, experienced during use of any app, approx every 5 minutes. It started after the Nov security update.
Tried all settings but hick-ups remain.
The hick-ups are noticeable as screen refresh with flickering wile using apps (system or others). Full screen video (all app like youtube, Netflix) switch back from full screen to normal page.
My phone is brand new SM-G998B/DS, completely stock. No other launcher or 3rd party tweaks introduced.
Anyone else has this issue or better knows a solution? I expect it to be a FW/system app bug. Some S21+ users have the same. S21+ similar thread
Try clearing system cache.
Already done without effect.
Crud. Start clearing data in all running/ associated apks including system.
Try to determine which app is going nuts first.
Play with it for a while...
Factory reset and if that doesn't work it's reflash time.
I stop doing updates almost 2 years ago because they break things. So far malware, etc hasn't broke anything...
yes that is correct i have downloaded XSP nov firmware to flash.. had done a clean flash and was experiencing that hickup.. after that i have flashed back to XID firmware ( Sep patch ) received the Nov OTA and its doing fine here. No hickup.. that is seriously annoying
For me it has started with Sep update (S21+) and for my gf with Nov update (S20).
Only solution is to factory reset the phone which sucks big time, especially with plenty of bank apps etc.
OS with Orange branding.
-videos exit from fullscreen
-Maps exit from fullscreen into PIP
-massive freeze during gaming
-clearing the text while typing in an app (Messenger)
Phone is basically unusable, esp. for someone with heavy Maps use. Not to mention the risk associated with constant double tapping on the Maps PIP window.
Anymore firmware updates is the first thing I disable. If the OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission... let it be.
Result is I have almost no issues with my N10+'s, they just work.
Updates tend to break things... and/or start a new search for solutions and workouts for the new issues the update caused.
I expect that using SmartSwitch when migrating from Note 10+ to S21Ultra caused my hiccups.
Backed up data only to PC and did a factory reset and clean install of Android 12/One UI 4.0. Reinstalled apps from Play/Galaxy Store.
Took some 45 minutes to reactivate all apps, bow everything is fine.
Updates do improve stability and security and provide new functionality.
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I expect that using SmartSwitch when migrating from Note 10+ to S21Ultra caused my hiccups.
Backed up data only to PC and did a factory reset and clean install of Android 12/One UI 4.0. Reinstalled apps from Play/Galaxy Store.
Took some 45 minutes to reactivate all apps, bow everything is fine.
Updates do improve stability and security and provide new functionality.
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My phone after factory reset was fine as well, just wait for the next update to mess it up all over again.
It's been almost 4 months since I bought my Samsung S20 FE (4G Snapdragon Version). Since then I've had some issues with the phone heating up while doing light stuff on it. I've asked for help before here on the forum and you guys helped me reduce this issue, but while talking with other people who own the same device as me, and that don't have this issue, it was suggested to me that I should try to factory reset the phone.
I've done this before, but since then I've heard that both the Smart Switch and Google Backup can cause overheating and battery issues, while others say that I should use the Smart Switch because only Google Backup can cause this kind of issue.
In your guys opinion and experience, what is the best way to factory reset and restore the phone while avoiding those issues? Smart Switch, Google Backup, or simply backing up the apks using something like Alpha Backup (or any other backup app that you guys find more useful) and starting from scratch?
Thanks in advance.
Try clearing the system cache.
Toggle off any power management settings you enabled in Device Care, only fast charging should be enabled.
Do not use any power management; deal with power hogs directly on a case by case basis.
The reason you're doing a factory reset is to purge bad settings, apps or malware.
If you used SmartSwitch for apps it may be the cause. Don't.
You can use ApkExport to make installable copies of all your apps less data. No Playstore is then needed.
It's usually better to find the root cause rather than do a factory reset. If was a bad load, a boot loop or malware, factory reset*... and don't repeat the mistake. Correct the mistake without a factory reset if possible; you want to ID the cause of the issue if at all possible to prevent doing it again... and again.
*if you did a major firmware upgrade ie 11 to 12, factory reset.
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Try clearing the system cache.
Toggle off any power management settings you enabled in Device Care, only fast charging should be enabled.
Do not use any power management; deal with power hogs directly on a case by case basis.
The reason you're doing a factory reset is to purge bad settings, apps or malware.
If you used SmartSwitch for apps it may be the cause. Don't.
You can use ApkExport to make installable copies of all your apps less data. No Playstore is then needed.
It's usually better to find the root cause rather than do a factory reset. If was a bad load, a boot loop or malware, factory reset*... and don't repeat the mistake. Correct the mistake without a factory reset if possible; you want to ID the cause of the issue if at all possible to prevent doing it again... and again.
*if you did a major firmware upgrade ie 11 to 12, factory reset.
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Well, I tried just about everything with this phone.
Using with both power management settings on and off, with or without Good Lock modules, with the refresh rate set on 60/120hz, with Power Saving mode on and off, with Game Optimizing Service enabled and disabled, etc.
But I can't find the root cause of this issue.
I only play light games like Clash of Clans, only occasionally playing Honkai Impact. But the device heats up nonetheless.
I know that it's summer right now and that the weather her gets really, really hot. But I don't think it's normal to feel the heat of the phone while watching a video on YouTube while people on other cities that are also really hot during summer play games like Genshin Impact or Asphalt and feel it heating up just a little bit.
I will try to wipe the cache and wait until Android 12 gets released to change my CSC (I'm on a carrier ROM and would like to change to the default Brazilian CSC) so I don't have to wipe and restore everything twice. Meanwhile I'll keep an eye out for anything that could be causing this issue.
Thank you very much.
Set Power Saving to optimized, not an issue.
Good lock is normally no issue.
Cloud apps are. FB, WhatsApp, Twitter, etc are trashware... take out the trash.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see how it does. Disable find my device first as a System Administrator.
Use Accubattery to track battery SOT with its history log. Use a damp microfiber cloth to cool in hot weather or when charging in hot weather.
Find what's draining it.
It's not uncommon.
My N10+ was a hot running battery super hog... not any more. It gets 7-13%@hr SOT, >.5%@hr at night with tap on AOD active.
If your SOT at idle or using the browser (excluding vids) is greater than 10%@hr, you got some witch hunting to do.
It's been like half a month since I got the OnePlus 10 pro, it's been working flawlessly until just two days ago. Since then, even when I'm not using the phone and the screen is turned off, the phone is at 40-42°C constantly. I'm really worried because it has been working cool (well not as hot as now) even when using high demanding games, but now it even turns off the 120hz because of how hot it gets when just using chrome for example. Should I try and do something to fix it or directly send it to get the phone checked?
It might be obvious but the battery life has also gotten horribly worse than before, and it only cools down after completely turning the phone off.
What's running in the background?
A logging firewall may help find it. Cloud apps are always prime suspects.
Any new apps or updates in that period?
Possible malware. Try to find the root cause however if malware is suspected and can't be eliminated or if the root cause eludes you, factory reset.
It may be a hardware failure but more than likely it's software issue. If it persists right after factory reset it's either firmware or hardware; send it in at that point.
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What's running in the background?
A logging firewall may help find it. Cloud apps are always prime suspects.
Any new apps or updates in that period?
Possible malware. Try to find the root cause however if malware is suspected and can't be eliminated or if the root cause eludes you, factory reset.
It may be a hardware failure but more than likely it's software issue. If it persists right after factory reset it's either firmware or hardware; send it in at that point.
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Might be the Pokemon infinite fusion zip i downloaded because it all started after i downloaded that file. I deleted it but the problem still happened. Right now temperature is back down but I'll try and do what you said. If the problem still persists Ill probably factory reset, but right now for some reason it's better, battery is still acting weird but ye
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Might be the Pokemon infinite fusion zip i downloaded because it all started after i downloaded that file. I deleted it but the problem still happened. Right now temperature is back down but I'll try and do what you said. If the problem still persists Ill probably factory reset, but right now for some reason it's better, battery is still acting weird but ye
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It may have contained malware, downloaded it as an update or acted as a trojan preloader.
It may not have contained any malware or imported any but could have altered hidden user settings that didn't revert back after uninstalled; just a poorly coded app.
If device isn't behaving normally and you can't find the cause, nuke it... factory reset. Start with a clean load and then be careful what you install and download.
I try not to sample apps as while rare they can damage the load. Just because it comes from Playstore doesn't mean it's safe or vetted. Playstore continues to fail in this regard. A clean Android load can last years with minimal maintenance provided you don't upgrade/update the firmware. Updating apps is generally a bad plan as well. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load will be 3 yo in June. It runs like a bat out of hell and security is not an issue.
Whenever side loading always use online Virustotal to scan it first. If there's any doubt from the results, don't install it. Not worth the risk or the time consuming trouble it can cause.
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It may have contained malware, downloaded it as an update or acted as a trojan preloader.
It may not have contained any malware or imported any but could have altered hidden user settings that didn't revert back after uninstalled; just a poorly coded app.
If device isn't behaving normally and you can't find the cause, nuke it... factory reset. Start with a clean load and then be careful what you install and download.
I try not to sample apps as while rare they can damage the load. Just because it comes from Playstore doesn't mean it's safe or vetted. Playstore continues to fail in this regard. A clean Android load can last years with minimal maintenance provided you don't upgrade/update the firmware. Updating apps is generally a bad plan as well. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load will be 3 yo in June. It runs like a bat out of hell and security is not an issue.
Whenever side loading always use online Virustotal to scan it first. If there's any doubt from the results, don't install it. Not worth the risk or the time consuming trouble it can cause.
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I later downloaded the same zip in the PC because it's actually a PC game and it did say something about malware, so I'll probably factory reset the phone. I have had a OnePlus 8 pro for almost three years and still works like a charm. It has Evolution X flashed but still, that's why I'm trying to take more care of my 10 pro, since i kind of destroyed the battery of the op8pro (due to playing while charging and leaving it charging all night for a few months probably), but then this happened so i got pretty worried. Thanks for the help and the tips ^^
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I later downloaded the same zip in the PC because it's actually a PC game and it did say something about malware, so I'll probably factory reset the phone. I have had a OnePlus 8 pro for almost three years and still works like a charm. It has Evolution X flashed but still, that's why I'm trying to take more care of my 10 pro, since i kind of destroyed the battery of the op8pro (due to playing while charging and leaving it charging all night for a few months probably), but then this happened so i got pretty worried. Thanks for the help and the tips ^^
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You're welcome.
Android and Windows aren't normally effected by the same viruses etc as the malware can't cross platform.
On heavily used devices the battery lasts about 2 years. Simply get it replaced.