It's been like half a month since I got the OnePlus 10 pro, it's been working flawlessly until just two days ago. Since then, even when I'm not using the phone and the screen is turned off, the phone is at 40-42°C constantly. I'm really worried because it has been working cool (well not as hot as now) even when using high demanding games, but now it even turns off the 120hz because of how hot it gets when just using chrome for example. Should I try and do something to fix it or directly send it to get the phone checked?
It might be obvious but the battery life has also gotten horribly worse than before, and it only cools down after completely turning the phone off.
What's running in the background?
A logging firewall may help find it. Cloud apps are always prime suspects.
Any new apps or updates in that period?
Possible malware. Try to find the root cause however if malware is suspected and can't be eliminated or if the root cause eludes you, factory reset.
It may be a hardware failure but more than likely it's software issue. If it persists right after factory reset it's either firmware or hardware; send it in at that point.
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What's running in the background?
A logging firewall may help find it. Cloud apps are always prime suspects.
Any new apps or updates in that period?
Possible malware. Try to find the root cause however if malware is suspected and can't be eliminated or if the root cause eludes you, factory reset.
It may be a hardware failure but more than likely it's software issue. If it persists right after factory reset it's either firmware or hardware; send it in at that point.
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Might be the Pokemon infinite fusion zip i downloaded because it all started after i downloaded that file. I deleted it but the problem still happened. Right now temperature is back down but I'll try and do what you said. If the problem still persists Ill probably factory reset, but right now for some reason it's better, battery is still acting weird but ye
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Might be the Pokemon infinite fusion zip i downloaded because it all started after i downloaded that file. I deleted it but the problem still happened. Right now temperature is back down but I'll try and do what you said. If the problem still persists Ill probably factory reset, but right now for some reason it's better, battery is still acting weird but ye
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It may have contained malware, downloaded it as an update or acted as a trojan preloader.
It may not have contained any malware or imported any but could have altered hidden user settings that didn't revert back after uninstalled; just a poorly coded app.
If device isn't behaving normally and you can't find the cause, nuke it... factory reset. Start with a clean load and then be careful what you install and download.
I try not to sample apps as while rare they can damage the load. Just because it comes from Playstore doesn't mean it's safe or vetted. Playstore continues to fail in this regard. A clean Android load can last years with minimal maintenance provided you don't upgrade/update the firmware. Updating apps is generally a bad plan as well. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load will be 3 yo in June. It runs like a bat out of hell and security is not an issue.
Whenever side loading always use online Virustotal to scan it first. If there's any doubt from the results, don't install it. Not worth the risk or the time consuming trouble it can cause.
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It may have contained malware, downloaded it as an update or acted as a trojan preloader.
It may not have contained any malware or imported any but could have altered hidden user settings that didn't revert back after uninstalled; just a poorly coded app.
If device isn't behaving normally and you can't find the cause, nuke it... factory reset. Start with a clean load and then be careful what you install and download.
I try not to sample apps as while rare they can damage the load. Just because it comes from Playstore doesn't mean it's safe or vetted. Playstore continues to fail in this regard. A clean Android load can last years with minimal maintenance provided you don't upgrade/update the firmware. Updating apps is generally a bad plan as well. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load will be 3 yo in June. It runs like a bat out of hell and security is not an issue.
Whenever side loading always use online Virustotal to scan it first. If there's any doubt from the results, don't install it. Not worth the risk or the time consuming trouble it can cause.
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I later downloaded the same zip in the PC because it's actually a PC game and it did say something about malware, so I'll probably factory reset the phone. I have had a OnePlus 8 pro for almost three years and still works like a charm. It has Evolution X flashed but still, that's why I'm trying to take more care of my 10 pro, since i kind of destroyed the battery of the op8pro (due to playing while charging and leaving it charging all night for a few months probably), but then this happened so i got pretty worried. Thanks for the help and the tips ^^
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I later downloaded the same zip in the PC because it's actually a PC game and it did say something about malware, so I'll probably factory reset the phone. I have had a OnePlus 8 pro for almost three years and still works like a charm. It has Evolution X flashed but still, that's why I'm trying to take more care of my 10 pro, since i kind of destroyed the battery of the op8pro (due to playing while charging and leaving it charging all night for a few months probably), but then this happened so i got pretty worried. Thanks for the help and the tips ^^
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You're welcome.
Android and Windows aren't normally effected by the same viruses etc as the malware can't cross platform.
On heavily used devices the battery lasts about 2 years. Simply get it replaced.
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i have a display issue with my note 8 (N950f), the screen gets greenish and messes up the colors making it very unpleasant to look at (started happening right after september 2020 update) i could fix it by pressing the power button, taping the screen to turn on always on display but then it would switch back to that annoying green display after seconds or minutes (weirdly enough the Always On Display is always good and never shows any green), so i tried to fix it by : Factory reseting, clearing cache, flashing stock os, custom roms pie, 10, 11, nothing worked until i tried flashing a custom kernel (Phantom Kernel for Pie) on a stock os. that fixes the green screen issue temporarily (2 to 3 weeks) i mean it's still there but it gets green very rarely, until it starts to gradually get worse overtime. And also im not the only one! i found another user @B3anbeanbean who has the EXACT problem and he fixes it like i do with the phantom kernel. This can't be a coincidence.
If you have a fast, stable platform that fulfills its mission, leave it be.
My 10+ is still running very well on Pie and will be for the life of the device.
If Samsung doesn't break it, Gookill Android surely will. What applies to MS XPx64, W7 applies more so now with Android.
For all those "upgrades" what did you gain?
Rather than enjoying the device how much time did you lose? Which bring me back to my original statement.
Play games and don't let the game play you.
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If you have a fast, stable platform that fulfills its mission, leave it be.
My 10+ is still running very well on Pie and will be for the life of the device.
If Samsung doesn't break it, Gookill Android surely will. What applies to MS XPx64, W7 applies more so now with Android.
For all those "upgrades" what did you gain?
Rather than enjoying the device how much time did you lose? Which bring me back to my original statement.
Play games and don't let the game play you.
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mate, i would've never touched the phone, i love pie and i dont mind using it, the problem occurred on itself on stock os i hadn't touched anything. i did those "upgrades" in hopes of fixing the display.
omae_wa said:
mate, i would've never touched the phone, i love pie and i dont mind using it, the problem occurred on itself on stock os i hadn't touched anything. i did those "upgrades" in hopes of fixing the display.
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If it running right when first purchased it's likely hardware if a factory reset wouldn't resolve it.
When you start changing firmware rather than find the root cause you throw more variables into the mix. Making it more difficult.
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If it running right when first purchased it's likely hardware if a factory reset wouldn't resolve it.
When you start changing firmware rather than find the root cause you throw more variables into the mix. Making it more difficult.
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if it's an hardware problem then why would flashing a different KERNEL fix it? there's no way this can be an hardware issue. please read what i said and dont throw useless opinions if you can't explain them or fix them.
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if it's an hardware problem then why would flashing a different KERNEL fix it? there's no way this can be an hardware issue. please read what i said and dont throw useless opinions if you can't explain them or fix them.
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Ever wonder what happens when one or a couple dozen of the billions of transistors in the processor fails?
Firmware doesn't just of a sudden fail, hardware does.
Firmware can get corrupted. Did you ever reflash the original stock firmware version back onto it?
You know verify the firmware load was intact?
You probably lost some digital pathways and/or memory cells in the CPU or another chipset.
The current firmware for whatever reason(s) doesn't use them.
Major carriers like AT&T, Verizon etc are partnered with Samsung and actively dictate what software and firmware goes in those phones to Samsung.
What could go wrong?
I personally never update, rooted and up... well (actually downdates) turned off for all its days.
although to answer the question directly, in my opinion yes spammy ruins stuff for more sales (aka rips off it's customers) then inturn they eventually never want to see a spammed cell again. so realistically they loose money, not a smart choice obviously, but when blinded by greed all kinds stuff will happen.
Mypixel 4xl sometimes randomly shuts down I think an app, may be responsible.
Ampere says my battery is good.
im bootloader unlocked running 12 beta.
but it was shutting down before 12 beta i wiped everything.
was fine for 2 weeks now its doing it again.
anyway to arrange apps by date,so i can see what may be causing this?
I would flash factory stock again and wait a while before installing any root apps. It may be hardware related, or battery connection related. Meanwhile keep an eye on battery temp. Any chance you were outside in the heat when the phone shut down? The other thing you could try would be to put it in safe mode. If it does it in safe mode it is more likely hardware.
So I have a similar problem after installing the latest security update... My phone pixel 4 xl was just fine prior, but now it will turn off randomly when the screen goes off (or is locked to turn the screen off). I can only turn the phone back on after I plug it in to a charger. Interestingly, the battery and phone will keep running and the battery will drain normally so long as I keep the screen/interaction active. Ideas? Thinking about flashing a custom ROM. This phone is stock and nothing has been done to it. I also reset to factory to see if that was the fix, but no joy. Help?
@Springcrime
If the problem remains after a factory reset, you very likely have a hardware issue. The two main battery related issues are 1) the battery connection issue (abnormal or stuck battery percentages) , and 2) the swollen battery issue (no wireless charging, back glass separation (it's not easy to see). Flashing a custom ROM will only add multiple variables that will not solve the problem over restoring the phone to factory stock like you have already. As a last ditch effort, you could flash the phone with a full image and letting it wipe (don't edit the flash-all.bat). If that doesn't fix it you probably need to starting thinking any warranty options, or repair.
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If the problem remains after a factory reset, you very likely have a hardware issue. The two main battery related issues are 1) the battery connection issue (abnormal or stuck battery percentages) , and 2) the swollen battery issue (no wireless charging, back glass separation (it's not easy to see). Flashing a custom ROM will only add multiple variables that will not solve the problem over restoring the phone to factory stock like you have already. As a last ditch effort, you could flash the phone with a full image and letting it wipe (don't edit the flash-all.bat). If that doesn't fix it you probably need to starting thinking any warranty options, or repair.
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Normally I'd agree with that advice, but this literally and noticeably occured immediately after installing the latest security update. As a test, I've been running the battery down with videos, so long as I ensure I don't manually lock or turn the screen off, the battery has drained normally. No crashes or shutdowns while actively using the phone. Wireless charging works fine, and no visible swelling. Any other ideas? I joined the beta 12 program for the hell of it to see if that changes anything... Currently waiting for the push to my phone so I can download it.
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So I have a similar problem after installing the latest security update... My phone pixel 4 xl was just fine prior, but now it will turn off randomly when the screen goes off (or is locked to turn the screen off). I can only turn the phone back on after I plug it in to a charger. Interestingly, the battery and phone will keep running and the battery will drain normally so long as I keep the screen/interaction active. Ideas? Thinking about flashing a custom ROM. This phone is stock and nothing has been done to it. I also reset to factory to see if that was the fix, but no joy. Help?
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Try disabling the screen lock.
Double check all security settings.
As for all updates, if the OS is running fast and stable... leave it be.
Pie and above are pretty secure unless you do something stupid. As you can see a malware forced factory reset be less trouble than an update induced one. In 7 years of using mostly outdated android OS's never once did I need to do a factory reset because of malware.
My current Pie load is over a year old running fast and stable. It hasn't been updated in over 1.5 years... and it won't be.
It's impossible to get BH to install the latest ROM, and even I don't wanna judging from Google crappy OTA updates.
I only update for security not anything else though.
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Try disabling the screen lock.
Double check all security settings.
As for all updates, if the OS is running fast and stable... leave it be.
Pie and above are pretty secure unless you do something stupid. As you can see a malware forced factory reset be less trouble than an update induced one. In 7 years of using mostly outdated android OS's never once did I need to do a factory reset because of malware.
My current Pie load is over a year old running fast and stable. It hasn't been updated in over 1.5 years... and it won't be.
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So far so good on the screen lock. I wonder if it has anything to do with the facial recognition feature (which I enabled at the same time after the update). We'll see how this goes!
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So far so good on the screen lock. I wonder if it has anything to do with the facial recognition feature (which I enabled at the same time after the update). We'll see how this goes!
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Meh, play with it. Usually you'll figure out what's going on... they are complicated little devils.
Hi everyone. I just got my OnePlus 10 Pro and ever since I had it it's been running very warm when using I checked a few apps and they all showed that the battery was running at 42° Celsius which is keeping the device warm basically all the time when I'm using it. is anyone else having this problem? This is really concerning for me.
I'm unable to update to the latest version of the formula that's available because OnePlus seems like they don't release full ROMs for the OnePlus 10. What's up with that?
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services...
Strange, I've thrown everything at this phone and it's never got above 34.
Not once, maybe the heatsink is a little away...
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Will give this a try and see what happens.
dladz said:
Strange, I've thrown everything at this phone and it's never got above 34.
Not once, maybe the heating is a little away...
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IDK it's crazy annoying to always have a warm device when trying to use it.
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IDK it's crazy annoying to always have a warm device when trying to use it.
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It's burning up the battery too. I'm familiar with Samsung's and this is a common problem with them. The solution is to optimize the phone unless it's a purely firmware or hardware issue.
Turn off global power management.
Find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis. Either by changing settings or disabling/uninstalling them or by using work arounds.
Keep trash social media apps like FB, WhatsApp, etc off the phone. Cloud storage tend to be a battery sucker, one reason I use SD cards instead.
Try using factory loaded app versions, update one at a time if at all and see what results.
Once you get it optimized I would avoid app and especially firmware updates/upgrades. These can and do break things. In your case a firmware update may correct issues on your variant so consider wisely and don't update blindly.
Anything from Pie up is relatively secure in actual use... useless you do something stupid. Security even using Pie simply isn't an issue. Updates have cost me far more time then any malware to fix. In the last 2 years no malware repairs or factory resets on this stock N10+ running on Pie.
Mine get extreme warm too, specially when its charging.
I've also noticed some heat when Warp Charging!
Hello everyone!
I'm experiencing very serious stability issues with my S10 SM-G973F running stock unrooted PDA/AP G973FXXUGHVJ5, CSC G973FOXMGHVJ5, MODEM/CP G973FXXUGHVJ1.
It started one day ago and the effect is apps crashing immediately after being started. And it affects all types of apps - Galaxy Store, Samsung Email client, banking apps.
Clearing cache partition seems to resolve the issue for a couple of minutes, after which the instability starts again.
I've never experienced such behavior with any Android phone so far.
Any ideas what could be wrong?
Try in safe mode.
Back up all critical data... probably not going any where good
In safe mode it seems to be running fine. Is there a memtest app for Android or logging tool that can help me identify the reason?
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In safe mode it seems to be running fine. Is there a memtest app for Android or logging tool that can help me identify the reason?
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Were any new apps added or updated?
Power management and launchers especially.
See what's running in Developer options>running services and Device Care>Memory. In Device Care try clearing all the cache apps then when it starts to misbehave see what apps just opened.
I've used that method successfully and avoided a reload.
I see nothing suspicious. Clearing the memory from Device care doesn't solve the issue.
I guess next step is hard reset...
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I see nothing suspicious. Clearing the memory from Device care doesn't solve the issue.
I guess next step is hard reset...
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Find the root cause. Otherwise it's likely to reoccur after the factory reset.
The only exception to this is undeletable malware or a boot loop (which is where you might be headed).
Before a factory reset try setting all settings to factory; this is a major inconvenience but not as bad as a factory reset.
Best to find and correct the root cause instead... it's staring right at you, look for it.
Many thanks for your feedback!
Is undeletable malware even possible on unrooted phone? I haven't installed anything new lately and my phone is very stock... And I almost never install anything outside Google Play - definitely not in the last months... On a regular computer I would run a memtest in a preboot environment. As far as I see - there is no such option on Android...
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Many thanks for your feedback!
Is undeletable malware even possible on unrooted phone? I haven't installed anything new lately and my phone is very stock... And I almost never install anything outside Google Play - definitely not in the last months... On a regular computer I would run a memtest in a preboot environment. As far as I see - there is no such option on Android...
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Unlikely but not impossible. An app that passed the Playstore tests can latter update a malicious payload, so there's that. Occasionally the user may inadvertently download a trojan preloader (or other malware) or it may slip past the browser and download itself. If it retrieves its payload, boom; many times it does so through a second website (linked to the first) if you click on it or are redirected to it. It's important to check the download folder daily for anything you didn't download. Social media sites can serve as a haven for these packages and conveniently link the preloader and payload all on that site.
Always back out of bad sites or close the tab, or close the browser than open/close tab or if all that fails clear browser cache, or worst case delete browser data. Doing this can save you a lot of... fun Brave browser is very well harden, nothing has ever breached it. Samsung is pretty good but I've seen it breached. A trojan preloader made it through without me approving the download, but it was deleted before it retrieved its payload
Scan with Malwarebytes, it may spot it if present.
More than likely it isn't malware. Android 9 and above are reasonably secure unless you do something stupid.
Just for the record if someone is experiencing the same issue - 24 hours after hard reset it seems that the problem is gone.
Hello navy3dfx, trying to install phone info made a capture of the first 2 in info.
Maybe find out more about your S10 a 5 G buy or if you buy in a back market on that the concern., unlock any operator my Asia or US network chip.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.uax.phoneinfo&hl=fr&gl=US
hello
i've never downgraded/flashed any firmware on this device before, so before i do something that might be fatal/result in bricking my phone i would like to ask is it possible to downgrade a S20 FE android 13 to android 11? while my one ui version is 5.1 i haven't updated the security patch to the april one (the one that changes your binary) it's currently the 1 march 2023 one
i've already checked & downloaded a firmware with the correct binary number so now all i need to do is flash it
Welcome to XDA.
You're limited by the bootloader version to how far you can roll it back. If the bootloader was upgraded too, you're boned. The 5th digit from the rear is the significant digit that determines that. If the rom's 5th digit is the same or higher value you can flash it. If lower, no go.
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i've never downgraded/flashed any firmware on this device before, so before i do something that might be fatal/result in bricking my phone i would like to ask is it possible to downgrade a S20 FE android 13 to android 11? while my one ui version is 5.1 i haven't updated the security patch to the april one (the one that changes your binary) it's currently the 1 march 2023 one
i've already checked & downloaded a firmware with the correct binary number so now all i need to do is flash it
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Hi, I downgraded my S20 FE several times from 13 to 12 with the same binary (obviously) with no issues at all, so you can downgrade easily.
In my experience on samsung devices (literally I flashed a hundred times on different devices) it's very unlikely that you brick your device with odin, even if you use a wrong firmware for your device....the only thing that it may brick a device is because it has a hardware damage
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Hi, I downgraded my S20 FE several times from 13 to 12 with the same binary (obviously) with no issues at all, so you can downgrade easily.
In my experience on samsung devices (literally I flashed a hundred times on different devices) it's very unlikely that you brick your device with odin, even if you use a wrong firmware for your device....the only thing that it may brick a device is because it has a hardware damage
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Hello
This will depend on your variant.
on the G780G (binary 3) and G781B (binary 4)
You can download to android 11.
since it has the same binary.
Of course, you should do it from 0.
do not install via CSC_HOME.
The installation must be clean.
before all make backup.
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Welcome to XDA.
You're limited by the bootloader version to how far you can roll it back. If the bootloader was upgraded too, you're boned. The 5th digit from the rear is the significant digit that determines that. If the rom's 5th digit is the same or higher value you can flash it. If lower, no go.
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yes it is the same value
mine G780GXXU3EWB2
the firmware i downloaded G780GXXU3AUH5
which would make both binaries '3' right? would this be okay?
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Hi, I downgraded my S20 FE several times from 13 to 12 with the same binary (obviously) with no issues at all, so you can downgrade easily.
In my experience on samsung devices (literally I flashed a hundred times on different devices) it's very unlikely that you brick your device with odin, even if you use a wrong firmware for your device....the only thing that it may brick a device is because it has a hardware damage
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thank you for your answer & sharing your experience, this is what i've been looking for
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yes it is the same value
mine G780GXXU3EWB2
the firmware i downloaded G780GXXU3AUH5
which would make both binaries '3' right? would this be okay?
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since it has the same binary.
Of course, you should do it from 0.
do not install via CSC_HOME.
The installation must be clean.
before all make backup.
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the only thing that it may brick a device is because it has a hardware damage
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Or if the battery has insufficient charge or capacity. Any time you flash a device you take some level of risk. A power outage with no or insufficient battery backup for the PC would also end badly.
The risk is also greater with Androids because it's not a small couple dozen MB flash that's done in seconds. Lots more time and data for things to go wrong. If my Canon pro cam had a bad flash, Canon would likely repair for free or a reasonable charge. Samsung will do neither of these... repair cost plus a new mobo loaded with the latest firmware. perfect.
mezacorleehone said:
on the G780G (binary 3)
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yes that is my phone variant
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may i ask why is that?
kiyan_ said:
yes that is my phone variant
may i ask why is that?
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the CSC_HOME file
comes in the software you just downloaded.
unlike normal CSC.
The CSC_HOME is used to only update the system, without deleting anything.
in your case you are going to downgrade, use the normal CSC without _home.
thank you everyone for the help & answers
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thank you everyone for the help & answers
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You are welcome.
where possible we collaborate.
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Or if the battery has insufficient charge or capacity. Any time you flash a device you take some level of risk. A power outage with no or insufficient battery backup for the PC would also end badly.
The risk is also greater with Androids because it's not a small couple dozen MB flash that's done in seconds. Lots more time and data for things to go wrong. If my Canon pro cam had a bad flash, Canon would likely repair for free or a reasonable charge. Samsung will do neither of these... repair cost plus a new mobo loaded with the latest firmware. perfect.
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I'm referring about samsung devices based on my experience (trial and error), I had a lot of bricks, soft bricks and I was able to solve it with odin.
kiyan_ said:
yes it is the same value
mine G780GXXU3EWB2
the firmware i downloaded G780GXXU3AUH5
which would make both binaries '3' right? would this be okay?
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Yes, exactly. Why do you want to roll it back?
If it's a specific issue finding a work around may be easier.
Android 11 is no picnic either. I prefer Pie, Android 10 is ok; I'm running both and will likely never upgrade them.
Regardless you will need to lock it down so it can't do OTA upgrades/updates. That's the first thing I do on my Samsung's... once bitten, twice shy Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's... then you have find work arounds and fixes.
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Yes, exactly. Why do you want to roll it back?
If it's a specific issue finding a work around may be easier.
Android 11 is no picnic either. I prefer Pie, Android 10 is ok; I'm running both and will likely never upgrade them.
Regardless you will need to lock it down so it can't do OTA upgrades/updates. That's the first thing I do on my Samsung's... once bitten, twice shy Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's... then you have find work arounds and fixes.
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other than battery run out faster & the phone feeling a bit sluggish nothing specific....it's just i've already debloated my phone & disabled many features of the phone that i dont use and dont plan on updating my phone anymore and while that does help improve things quite significantly i just thought at this point why dont i just might aswell downgrade the phone
before i had this phone i was fine staying years with a phone that stopped receiving updates after android 6 lol just that it eventually ran its course and after several hardware problems & the phone giving up by itself (every 3 weeks or so it'll get stuck on bootloop for no reason) i assume it was time for me to buy a new one...too bad
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I'm referring about samsung devices based on my experience (trial and error), I had a lot of bricks, soft bricks and I was able to solve it with odin.
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I'm glad that's working well for you. I use to always be playing with my PC's like that. With Androids I took a more conservative approach; less down time, more play time.
I leave the firmware be on my 2 stock N10+'s. They run very good, fulfill their mission and it's simply not worth the risk or time. I don't allow firmware upgrades or updates. This N10+ in my hand is still running on Pie, firmware is 3.5 yo, and the current load will be 3 yo this June. No malware in all that time; security isn't an issue. Still fast, very stable with minimal maintenance. It's also heavily optimized and running well; I have zero incentive to change the playing field by altering the firmware.
My SQlite scores are lower than they should be in spite of my fast disk r/w scores so eventually I may do a factory reset to try to resolve that. Lol, that's the full extent of my ambition at the moment.
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Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's... then you have find work arounds and fixes.
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yep. i learned the hard way
i'm quite green at this stuff and at first i just thought "more upgrades & updates means good! i should get the most out of this device" but alas after some serious overheating & battery draining problems over loads of features i dont even use.....
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other than battery run out faster & the phone feeling a bit sluggish nothing specific....it's just i've already debloated my phone & disabled many features of the phone that i dont use and dont plan on updating my phone anymore and while that does help improve things quite significantly i just thought at this point why dont i just might aswell downgrade the phone
before i had this phone i was fine staying years with a phone that stopped receiving updates after android 6 lol just that it eventually ran its course and after several hardware problems & the phone giving up by itself (every 3 weeks or so it'll get stuck on bootloop for no reason) i assume it was time for me to buy a new one...too bad
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Anything below Android 9 is suspectable to partition worming nasties like Xhelper. Run Android 9 or higher. Android 9 is relatively secure unless you do stupid things.
All Samsung's should be optimized. You will still have scoped storage running on Android 11 anyway. If you don't mind the UI of Android 13 I would try to find what's causing the issues.
Disable global power management then go after the power hogs on an individual case by case basis. A logging firewall is useful in finding them. Cloud, and social media apps are prime offenders. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see if this helps; Google backup Transport, Gmail and Playstore are dependencies of it. Enable as needed. 5G can also suck a lot of power and is inefficient when doing small bandwidth transfers. Wifi isn't needed if you have an unlimited data plan. Use Package Disabler or abd/ladb edits to take out the really problem apps that can't be resolved in settings. Don't go too nuts though; target the hogs and totally worthless apps like Digital Wellbeing. Most of the dozens a small Samsung system apps are best left alone as many modify the UI and consume very little resources. Understand what the app does and it's dependencies if any before disabling whenever possible.
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blackhawk said:
Anything below Android 9 is suspectable to partition worming nasties like Xhelper. Run Android 9 or higher. Android 9 is relatively secure unless you do stupid things.
All Samsung's should be optimized. You will still have scoped storage running on Android 11 anyway. If you don't mind the UI of Android 13 I would try to find what's causing the issues.
Disable global power management then go after the power hogs on an individual case by case basis. A logging firewall is useful in finding them. Cloud, and social media apps are prime offenders. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see if this helps; Google backup Transport, Gmail and Playstore are dependencies of it. Enable as needed. 5G can also suck a lot of power and is inefficient when doing small bandwidth transfers. Wifi isn't needed if you have an unlimited data plan. Use Package Disabler or abd/ladb edits to take out the really problem apps that can't be resolved in settings. Don't go too nuts though; target the hogs and totally worthless apps like Digital Wellbeing. Most of the dozens a small Samsung system apps are best left alone as many modify the UI and consume very little resources. Understand what the app does and it's dependencies if any before disabling whenever possible.
Play with it...
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i've done all that hahahah
other than youtube i don't have any other social media apps installed and i've already got rid of chrome & switched to a lighter browser
yep i like to experiment, i suppose the flashing stuff is the next step after all of that (yes have tried factory reset several times too, i don't mind as there aren't any important data in my phone but still, possibly getting a priceful item bricked over my messing around isn't something i'm too excited about, that's why i still like to ask around)
also what got me the idea was that i've also read from several people with the same device saying that with every android updates the phone gets even more sluggish
kiyan_ said:
yep. i learned the hard way
i'm quite green at this stuff and at first i just thought "more upgrades & updates means good! i should get the most out of this device" but alas after some serious overheating & battery draining problems over loads of features i dont even use.....
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I learned the hard way with Samsung's too.
After the upgrade to 13 did you do a factory reset? If not, now is the time. Don't use SmartSwitch; do a clean load by importing all the critic data yourself.
At the very least clear the system cache.
I use Package Disabler to disable about 70 apps. It's not as bad as it first seems. Android 10 literally has about 100 more new system apps than 9. Most of those new ones should be left alone. My disable list for the Android 9 N10+ vs the Android 10 one is almost identical though.
Samsung's do lots of cool things so don't be too concerned until you learn more about the features. Bixby got killed right out of the gate; it's a hog and it's EULA is one of the worst I've ever read.