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I got my nexus Monday and have noticed terrible battery, I know it's not broken in yet but I installed gsam. Sure enough I have a wake lock, I believe that's for music but I'm not playing music. I do have a pebble, but I don't think it should cause it.
I'm stock rooted, still encrypted
Seems to be a bug with it not releasing media wakelocks. I have the same issue. Any media app (pandora, youtube, podcasts, etc) will get a wakelock when being used but closing them isn't releasing the lock. A reboot clears it up but definitely an issue.
akellar said:
Seems to be a bug with it not releasing media wakelocks. I have the same issue. Any media app (pandora, youtube, podcasts, etc) will get a wakelock when being used but closing them isn't releasing the lock. A reboot clears it up but definitely an issue.
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Well that's pretty lame, I'll give it a try thanks
I have this exact wakelock at times and along with the "Mobile Radio Active" issue between certain apps i don't hardly use and the Mobile Radio stays active 3-4x my total screen on time
Other than a reboot i can't get it to go away!
akellar said:
Seems to be a bug with it not releasing media wakelocks. I have the same issue. Any media app (pandora, youtube, podcasts, etc) will get a wakelock when being used but closing them isn't releasing the lock. A reboot clears it up but definitely an issue.
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I've uninstalled youtube and play music since. Making sure that only sounds going off are notifications. It just sits and runs. even if i reboot it just sits and runs.
Rebooting doesn't even fix it for me
fryingpan0613 said:
Rebooting doesn't even fix it for me
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same here same here. no matter which rom. or stock.
That's "OK Google" always listening for your voice I believe.
ohhdavid said:
That's "OK Google" always listening for your voice I believe.
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Nope, don't even have that activated
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
yeah i've uninstalled all media apps and froze some more that haven't fixed it. Just not sure what it is.
I'm close to giving up on this
Any updates?
1) I give up
2)its always my top app drainer
3)I don't know how much it really sicks out of the battery but it is annoying.
4) here are my results
5)I will continue to monitor threads like these in hope
Have a goodnight guys. Here's my stats from today.
Very similar issue for me
I think I may have fixed mine. I'm on pure shamu beta 2.9. When I first installed it I didn't have the adspd drain. After installing all my apps I had it. I tried uninstalling a bunch of apps to see if it was one of them but that didn't work. I think its a problem with installing a custom kernel. I have been able to reliably stop the drain by going into recovery, flashing my kernel (I've tried with lean and sensei) and making sure to wipe dalvik and cache before rebooting. I've tried installing without wiping dalvik and cache and the drain comes back.
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I think I may have fixed mine. I'm on pure shamu beta 2.9. When I first installed it I didn't have the adspd drain. After installing all my apps I had it. I tried uninstalling a bunch of apps to see if it was one of them but that didn't work. I think its a problem with installing a custom kernel. I have been able to reliably stop the drain by going into recovery, flashing my kernel (I've tried with lean and sensei) and making sure to wipe dalvik and cache before rebooting. I've tried installing without wiping dalvik and cache and the drain comes back.
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It's an issue on the stock kernel as well. Wiping dalvik (which no longer exists) and cache have no impact on the kernel in any way.
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It's an issue on the stock kernel as well. Wiping dalvik (which no longer exists) and cache have no impact on the kernel in any way.
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It may be just the act of resetting and doing the app upgrading after the dalvik/cache wipe even though I have only been able to reproduce it after installing a kernel. And have only tried it on the pure shamu ROM. Just letting y'all know what worked for me. I don't understand android well enough to know why or what this is. Haven't heard any other solutions though.
Pure shamu is the only ROM or stock image that it hasn't started up immediately for me. Most people don't see it if they don't install the gsam root companion.
Hi All,
Finally got my hands on a new nexus 6 for a bargain price. I've been reading and searching alot in this subforum in order to answer alot of questions i had.
My 6 is upgraded to last ota available with the last security patches, but the phone is encrypted.
Now the question is, is either me that is over-sensible to slowdowns and juddering due to encryption, or the people doens't really notice it that much? It bugs me out.
Granted my 6 is not rooted and unfortunately due to the need of having a working phone in an hour i didn't even explored the possibility of disabling force encrypt, but afaik this would lead me to:
- Do a full wipe to keep encryption off and thus loose all my stuff
- Reinstall everything from scratch
Is that right?
Also if i got right, doing so leads to:
- Impossibility to install OTAS because doing so will re-encrypt my phone and i will need to start from scratch again
- Impossibility to upgrade to Nougat when released, granted it will be encrypted from the start
Is that right?
Also if those saying that encryption performance is almost the same of having none, why i'm having such lags, juddering, pauses between apps, low battery performance and excessive warm when used for long?
Is my phone faulty/my android version or that is what happens when you run an encrypted phone with alot of apps (more than 50 due to work)?
Thanks for those who will take a minute to answer my questions.
Have a good day y'all.
https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-disable-encryption-on-the-nexus-6
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https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-disable-encryption-on-the-nexus-6
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Thank you, actually i have all the stuff to disable the encryption. My point in question is, restoring a backup made in TWRP makes it encrypted again?
Because i want to avoid to reinstall everything, set my apps back from zero and so on.
Also that doesn't quite answer to the question about security patches and OTA's. Do the phone reencrypts itselfs and gets wiped if i force install an OTA or security patch?
Each time i need to do the whole process from scratch?
To change kernel, system and data partitions you need root access. When rooted OTA update will fail.
That's why many N6 users have a custom rom and Twrp-recovery installed.
To avoid hassle and reinstall data and apps.
I am using this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59561445/
The dev updates the rom mostly before the official OTA .
About encryption: in daily use not noticeable.
Only backup is faster; twice.
Battery. The amoled display is consuming a lot of battery power. To avoid this I am using apps withdark themes and a black background.
So no Gmail but Aquamail.
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To change kernel, system and data partitions you need root access. When rooted OTA update will fail.
That's why many N6 users have a custom rom and Twrp-recovery installed.
To avoid hassle and reinstall data and apps.
I am using this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59561445/
The dev updates the rom mostly before the official OTA .
About encryption: in daily use not noticeable.
Only backup is faster; twice.
Battery. The amoled display is consuming a lot of battery power. To avoid this I am using apps withdark themes and a black background.
So no Gmail but Aquamail.
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Thank you for your insight. So i'm better off to a custom rom, updated with encryption off and call it a day?
I don't want to stick to CM or other roms, i would like to stick to official-based ones, to keep the sake of google pureness.
Thanks again.
In a short time the new version Android Nougat will be available for the N6.
I think it's useful to wait. Don't make changes before you updated to Nougat.
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In a short time the new version Android Nougat will be available for the N6.
I think it's useful to wait. Don't make changes before you updated to Nougat.
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Yeah thats my point, the problem is that i can't bear anymore the sluggish performance and the lag, sometimes it slows down to crawl, and based on some benches i did its because the disk access is so high that even alot of cpu power is used. The phone becomes hot when managing 6 mailboxes, 4 social profiles and pages and tons of other activites.
It destroys my battery life and also the performance takes a huge hit.
I guess ill be patient and wait for Nougat to come in a form of custom rom.
Decrypt will not give you a noticeable Bett. performance.
Try the app Advanced Task Manager. To kill background activities.
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Decrypt will not give you a noticeable Bett. performance.
Try the app Advanced Task Manager. To kill background activities.
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Well then definitely something is wrong with my phone. It really (sometimes) slows down to something unbearable. I think i'll wait, if things gets complicated, i will do a wipe.
I never experienced such low performance not even on dual core phones. I had to reboot at least once yesterday to get things decent enough.
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I never experienced such low performance not even on dual core phones. I had to reboot at least once yesterday to get things decent enough.
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When a reboot solves the performance issue than try the app Quit Reboot (PhongIT). It has several options for rebooting. .
Another performance issue can be caused by the Google Play Services (searches continuously for updates), or apps working in background. Check the battery use in Settings - Apps - <app name>.
Disable the Google Plays Services temporarely to see possible differences.
When the battery is becoming warm/hot. Could be a bad radio connection. Switch to 2G.
Switch off wifi and bluetooth when you don't need it.
Delete apps you hardly use or disable them in Settings.
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When a reboot solves the performance issue than try the app Quit Reboot (PhongIT). It has several options for rebooting. .
Another performance issue can be caused by the Google Play Services (searches continuously for updates), or apps working in background. Check the battery use in Settings - Apps - <app name>.
Disable the Google Plays Services temporarely to see possible differences.
When the battery is becoming warm/hot. Could be a bad radio connection. Switch to 2G.
Switch off wifi and bluetooth when you don't need it.
Delete apps you hardly use or disable them in Settings.
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thank you, will take care of the things listed.
there are so many great custom roms to try, some cm based, some not, and most if not ALL of them do not have any of the issues you are complaining about.
its a Nexus; root it, and start trying the dozens of custom roms out there..
dont bother decrypting; its a hassle with zero real world benefiits, aside from back up speed, which is meaningless imo
and, all the custom roms pretty much update constantly, so rarely are you more than a few days/week behind any google updates when you use a good rom; the dev's make sure they update/add any real improvements/features really fast.
hey so my s21 ultra which was working normal until yesterday started to lag out of nowhere ... the only thing that i did different in these 2days was gaming with my new clip on xbox controller and testing different games ,
I didn't install anything new EXCEPT that octopus key mapper and then Mantis gamepad pro but i didn't really set them up EXCEPT i just tried connecting my s21 ultra to my note 8 via usb c just to test if it worked but then note 8 ran out of battery like crazy...
It just looks like that app did it but i uninstalled all of them but still it is there...
any help? i don't want to reset anything !
Clear system cache.
Try in safe mode.
See which system apps are the most active, delete their data.
A user hidden setting may have been altered by a poorly written app, a possible rootkit etc or a hardware failure.
Factory reset if you can't find it soon.
does it lag in safe mode?
submit an error report on samsung members app > + button > error report if you think it's a software issue
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i don't want to reset anything !
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That last line will make things difficult.
That would be the most foolproof software solution for a non rooted phone IMO. If you reconsider, I'd suggest a full hard reset.
enigmaamit said:
That last line will make things difficult.
That would be the most foolproof software solution for a non rooted phone IMO. If you reconsider, I'd suggest a full hard reset.
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Hard reboot or factory reset?
A hard reboot is fine. However a hardware issue may be present if this is needed.
Factory reset; it's always preferable to find and correct the root cause rather than doing a factory reset as the issue is likely to reoccur.
Exceptions; unremovable malware, rootkits, major firmware updates, old loads and altered hidden user settings.
I have the same problem, some video on gallery or YouTube, system crash, dji mini 2 app...no display, some apps crashes, android auto heating up the phone....
lambik333 said:
I have the same problem, some video on gallery or YouTube, system crash, dji mini 2 app...no display, some apps crashes, android auto heating up the phone....
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Backup all critical data now.
Find the cause before it boot loops you.
These are typically the only warnings, if any, before a boot loop. This is not normal behavior.
See which apps are using the most battery, try force stopping them, clear their data, disable them temporarily if possible.
Disable any power management!!!
If using a 3rd party launcher or power management, disable it!!!
Try in safe mode.
Take all factory installed apks especially system apks back to their factory load versions.
Turn off all cloud apps including Google backup Transport for now. Turn off Google Firebase.
Turn off all Google, Samsung, and carrier feedback.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services, clear it's data.
Reset network settings.
Clear system cache.
Try a hard reboot.
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does it lag in safe mode?
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I have the same problem
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so i fixed it after going to safe mode and realizing that it was not the system apps, then i reinstalled that mantis app and uninstall it again to make sure if it was stuck or not also there was this app called : NET SPEED INDICATOR that was updated recently and was flagged as crashed in device monitor so i uninstalled it too and boom, the device was normal again.
so happy that it was a software issue rather than hardware or malware one since i keep close control of what i install and not and monitor everything it was surprising to see such things in my phone, after years of Samsung phone usage it was really shocking to see such behaviors on my s21 ultra with freezing and crashing non stop.
thanks for the help guys!
It's been almost 4 months since I bought my Samsung S20 FE (4G Snapdragon Version). Since then I've had some issues with the phone heating up while doing light stuff on it. I've asked for help before here on the forum and you guys helped me reduce this issue, but while talking with other people who own the same device as me, and that don't have this issue, it was suggested to me that I should try to factory reset the phone.
I've done this before, but since then I've heard that both the Smart Switch and Google Backup can cause overheating and battery issues, while others say that I should use the Smart Switch because only Google Backup can cause this kind of issue.
In your guys opinion and experience, what is the best way to factory reset and restore the phone while avoiding those issues? Smart Switch, Google Backup, or simply backing up the apks using something like Alpha Backup (or any other backup app that you guys find more useful) and starting from scratch?
Thanks in advance.
Try clearing the system cache.
Toggle off any power management settings you enabled in Device Care, only fast charging should be enabled.
Do not use any power management; deal with power hogs directly on a case by case basis.
The reason you're doing a factory reset is to purge bad settings, apps or malware.
If you used SmartSwitch for apps it may be the cause. Don't.
You can use ApkExport to make installable copies of all your apps less data. No Playstore is then needed.
It's usually better to find the root cause rather than do a factory reset. If was a bad load, a boot loop or malware, factory reset*... and don't repeat the mistake. Correct the mistake without a factory reset if possible; you want to ID the cause of the issue if at all possible to prevent doing it again... and again.
*if you did a major firmware upgrade ie 11 to 12, factory reset.
blackhawk said:
Try clearing the system cache.
Toggle off any power management settings you enabled in Device Care, only fast charging should be enabled.
Do not use any power management; deal with power hogs directly on a case by case basis.
The reason you're doing a factory reset is to purge bad settings, apps or malware.
If you used SmartSwitch for apps it may be the cause. Don't.
You can use ApkExport to make installable copies of all your apps less data. No Playstore is then needed.
It's usually better to find the root cause rather than do a factory reset. If was a bad load, a boot loop or malware, factory reset*... and don't repeat the mistake. Correct the mistake without a factory reset if possible; you want to ID the cause of the issue if at all possible to prevent doing it again... and again.
*if you did a major firmware upgrade ie 11 to 12, factory reset.
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Well, I tried just about everything with this phone.
Using with both power management settings on and off, with or without Good Lock modules, with the refresh rate set on 60/120hz, with Power Saving mode on and off, with Game Optimizing Service enabled and disabled, etc.
But I can't find the root cause of this issue.
I only play light games like Clash of Clans, only occasionally playing Honkai Impact. But the device heats up nonetheless.
I know that it's summer right now and that the weather her gets really, really hot. But I don't think it's normal to feel the heat of the phone while watching a video on YouTube while people on other cities that are also really hot during summer play games like Genshin Impact or Asphalt and feel it heating up just a little bit.
I will try to wipe the cache and wait until Android 12 gets released to change my CSC (I'm on a carrier ROM and would like to change to the default Brazilian CSC) so I don't have to wipe and restore everything twice. Meanwhile I'll keep an eye out for anything that could be causing this issue.
Thank you very much.
Set Power Saving to optimized, not an issue.
Good lock is normally no issue.
Cloud apps are. FB, WhatsApp, Twitter, etc are trashware... take out the trash.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see how it does. Disable find my device first as a System Administrator.
Use Accubattery to track battery SOT with its history log. Use a damp microfiber cloth to cool in hot weather or when charging in hot weather.
Find what's draining it.
It's not uncommon.
My N10+ was a hot running battery super hog... not any more. It gets 7-13%@hr SOT, >.5%@hr at night with tap on AOD active.
If your SOT at idle or using the browser (excluding vids) is greater than 10%@hr, you got some witch hunting to do.
I bought a Samsung S23+ a week ago. I'm really like it. It's a significant improvement over my old S10.
However, sometimes when I open an app, it immediately closes. It just goes away. No error message, it just disappears. However, tapping on it again brings it up. It isn't consistent which app suddenly closes; it just does. And sometimes it's a major feature of Android, such as Messages. A few times I've tapped on Messages, it starts to come up, then closes immediately. But why does it do that? Is there anything I can do to stop it?
You do a clean load or use SmartSwitch?
Clear system cache.
blackhawk said:
You do a clean load or use SmartSwitch?
Clear system cache.
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I'm sorry, I don't follow you. What do you mean by "clean load" and what's a "SmartSwitch"? What I have done is tried to open an app, like Messages, to have the app initially open, but the immediately close. Not always and not the same app.
And how do I clear the system cache?
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I'm sorry, I don't follow you. What do you mean by "clean load" and what's a "SmartSwitch"? What I have done is tried to open an app, like Messages, to have the app initially open, but the immediately close. Not always and not the same app.
And how do I clear the system cache?
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I think by "clean load" he means booting up the phone and not restoring any previous backup from google or from the samsung account. Smartswitch is a samsung app that allows you to copy the data from one phone to another. It tends to cause some issues, or carry on issues from the previous smartphones.
I recently traded my N20U for a S23 and used smart switch for i didn't have all my stuff backed up. the phone was overheating and the battery was draining hella fast. I did a clean load and everything is fine; except for this problem of apps closing all of the sudden. Clean loading didn't fixed it for me.
To clear the system cache you have to enter the recovery mode by shutting down your phone and pressing power + volume up until it boots and goes into the recovery mode. From there you can delete the cache. I will try it later and report back.
Today i have received the prompt for the february update, but i am still on january patch.
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I think by "clean load" he means booting up the phone and not restoring any previous backup from google or from the samsung account. Smartswitch is a samsung app that allows you to copy the data from one phone to another. It tends to cause some issues, or carry on issues from the previous smartphones.
I recently traded my N20U for a S23 and used smart switch for i didn't have all my stuff backed up. the phone was overheating and the battery was draining hella fast. I did a clean load and everything is fine; except for this problem of apps closing all of the sudden. Clean loading didn't fixed it for me.
To clear the system cache you have to enter the recovery mode by shutting down your phone and pressing power + volume up until it boots and goes into the recovery mode. From there you can delete the cache. I will try it later and report back.
Today i have received the prompt for the february update, but i am still on january patch.
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Exactly.
Which apps are acting up?
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Exactly.
Which apps are acting up?
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Telegram, GBwhatsapp and twitter are very frequent. Once and a while a random app crashes, but happens twice a day at most. IK GB is a modded app but it and none of the other apps displayed this behaviour on my previous phones.
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Telegram, GBwhatsapp and twitter are very frequent. Once and a while a random app crashes, but happens twice a day at most. IK GB is a modded app but it and none of the other apps displayed this behaviour on my previous phones.
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Ditch them; no social media or sales apps should ever be installed. Multi vector security risks and resource hogs. If you must use them login through a secure browser like Brave only. They simply aren't worth all the trouble they will cause.
Instead of Telegram try the Samsung messaging app. The Samsung app runs well for me, no issues. Not the solution you probably wanted but time to take out the trash... it's stinking up the place.
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Ditch them; no social media or sales apps should ever be installed. Multi vector security risks and resource hogs. If you must use them login through a secure browser like Brave only. They simply aren't worth all the trouble they will cause.
Instead of Telegram try the Samsung messaging app. The Samsung app runs well for me, no issues. Not the solution you probably wanted but time to take out the trash... it's stinking up the place.
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While i do understand and agree on the resource and security aspect, and shoulda' coulda' woulda' stopped using them, as i have done in the past and still do to this day with some of them, for a few reasons i need to be using some socials nowadays, and have done so for a few years without much hassle until this phone came in. If i could have ditched them, I wouldn't have come to a forum to figure out a way to fix the issue.
But I'll check how functional the web version of some of my socials work on mobile, for it's been a while i haven't used them and they used to lack functions.
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While i do understand and agree on the resource and security aspect, and shoulda' coulda' woulda' stopped using them, as i have done in the past and still do to this day with some of them, for a few reasons i need to be using some socials nowadays, and have done so for a few years without much hassle until this phone came in. If i could have ditched them, I wouldn't have come to a forum to figure out a way to fix the issue.
But I'll check how functional the web version of some of my socials work on mobile, for it's been a while i haven't used them and they used to lack functions.
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They tend to be a mess. They probably aren't up to date with the latest Android version or Samsung has some glitches with their new firmware. One reason I don't upgrade firmware or update apps is because the phone is running well. In your case perhaps it's going the be a game of upgrade/update roulette.
Is power management active? Any disabled apps or services? Setting changes to system apps? Is a firewall installed? In Accessibility are there any services installed for those apps? For Android 11 and higher there maybe more settings... Samsung's notorious for burying them.
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They tend to be a mess. They probably aren't up to date with the latest Android version or Samsung has some glitches with their new firmware. One reason I don't upgrade firmware or update apps is because the phone is running well. In your case perhaps it's going the be a game of upgrade/update roulette.
Is power management active? Any disabled apps or services? Setting changes to system apps? Is a firewall installed? In Accessibility are there any services installed for those apps? For Android 11 and higher there maybe more settings... Samsung's notorious for burying them.
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Gave a shot at updating the firmware; it boosted the performance a little bit, the battery is lasting way longer and the apps are closing less.
I ran a bugreport of a full day of use through battery historian and i found something strange, all app crashes are attributed to com.google.android.providers.media.module (which a quick google told me it's the MediaProvider Module from AOSP). Is there something i can do about it?
idk about power management but i have adaptive battery on, and i put discord to sleep; disabled google, meets and chrome; no settings changed; no firewall installed; all accessivility settings are off and no apps are using those permissions. I ****ed around a lil bit and toggled some of the samsung stuff off, but there might still be something buried, yes.
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Adaptive battery is global power management. To verify it's on: Developer options>standby apps, the app bucket states will be varied if it on ie active, frequently, rarely etc.
When off they will always show as active and you can not change the bucket state (it seems to take but after a refresh it hasn't).
This lame feature never worked and uses much more battery than if the the device is hand optimized. It can cause erratic behaviors.
If you deal with the power hog correctly the results are apparent within hours not days or weeks. Lol, Gookill tends to get more stupid over time, not smarter That said hand optimizing takes time but the results are much better and yield a substantial increase in SOT, standby time as well as a snappier, cooler running device.
Optimizing is somewhat trial and error at first and a bit tricky. It eventually becomes almost second nature. This N10+ was a stuttering hot running power hog before it was optimized, now it runs like a bat out of hell. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see what that does. Gmail, Playstore and Google backup Transport are dependencies, simply turn on if needed. Kill the notifications for too so it doesn't nag you constantly. See if that helps your issues.
Use Device Care>memory>optimize. Install SD Maid Pro to do more clean up, it's a very useful app. A logging firewall can be very useful for tracking down issues, lets you see what's being busy in the background using data and resources.
com.google.android.providers.media.module, interesting. Apparently it's caused trouble going back to 2011 from time to time. It's a needed service. Go through all the Google account settings. It's good to explore all setting options anyway. Maybe try clearing the Media Storage app cache and check the settings.
I'm more clueless than you why this happening.
Maybe someone here knows why it's puking on you. Otherwise play with it, eventually you'll track the cause down but it may take a while.
If you're in the US you could go to a Samsung Experience center at best buy; they allegedly can run advanced diagnostic tests on it.
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Adaptive battery is global power management. To verify it's on: Developer options>standby apps, the app bucket states will be varied if it on ie active, frequently, rarely etc.
When off they will always show as active and you can not change the bucket state (it seems to take but after a refresh it hasn't).
This lame feature never worked and uses much more battery than if the the device is hand optimized. It can cause erratic behaviors.
If you deal with the power hog correctly the results are apparent within hours not days or weeks. Lol, Gookill tends to get more stupid over time, not smarter That said hand optimizing takes time but the results are much better and yield a substantial increase in SOT, standby time as well as a snappier, cooler running device.
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All my apps are active and i cannot flick the switch so i guess it's off. i turned adaptive battery off on battery and device care > battery > more battery settings.
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Optimizing is somewhat trial and error at first and a bit tricky. It eventually becomes almost second nature. This N10+ was a stuttering hot running power hog before it was optimized, now it runs like a bat out of hell. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see what that does. Gmail, Playstore and Google backup Transport are dependencies, simply turn on if needed. Kill the notifications for too so it doesn't nag you constantly. See if that helps your issues.
Use Device Care>memory>optimize. Install SD Maid Pro to do more clean up, it's a very useful app. A logging firewall can be very useful for tracking down issues, lets you see what's being busy in the background using data and resources.
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While i'm aware of some optimization techniques, it's been so long since I actually felt the need to tweak something it's actually surreal. My two previous phones were a Mi A2 and a N20U (for almost three years), and I didn't mess around for basically nothing. they ran absolutely fine, I thought my XDA days were gone
But anyways, I did the following: After updating the firmware, I disabled and cleaned the media provider app cache and cleaned the system cache. The phone got immediately snappier, but some of the crashes were still happening. I ruled the Whatsapp crashes to a faulty backup, since I noticed it happened when I open certain chats. idk how to fix this so I just deleted the chat; the com.google.android.providers.media.module crash count went down from 10 to 4 on my two last battery cycles. Something is still crashing, but possibly in the background. I'll keep monitoring it.
Is there any other thread that shows the ropes of optimizing samsung devices aside from this one?
guile50 said:
All my apps are active and i cannot flick the switch so i guess it's off. i turned adaptive battery off on battery and device care > battery > more battery settings.
While i'm aware of some optimization techniques, it's been so long since I actually felt the need to tweak something it's actually surreal. My two previous phones were a Mi A2 and a N20U (for almost three years), and I didn't mess around for basically nothing. they ran absolutely fine, I thought my XDA days were gone
But anyways, I did the following: After updating the firmware, I disabled and cleaned the media provider app cache and cleaned the system cache. The phone got immediately snappier, but some of the crashes were still happening. I ruled the Whatsapp crashes to a faulty backup, since I noticed it happened when I open certain chats. idk how to fix this so I just deleted the chat; the com.google.android.providers.media.module crash count went down from 10 to 4 on my two last battery cycles. Something is still crashing, but possibly in the background. I'll keep monitoring it.
Is there any other thread that shows the ropes of optimizing samsung devices aside from this one?
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WhatsApp... ditch the trashware. An unstable OS can end up turning into a boot loop very quickly.
Any app that's misbehaving and can't be sorted out gets uninstalled or package disabled.
Find and correct the root cause(s).
All I ever played with are Samsung's and all needed to be optimized. There are numerous posts I've made of it but you see my post count; even I be hard pressed to ferret them all out.
I've thought about starting a thread but I run 9 and 10, plus I have mine configured to my device and needs. So what works well for me may be useless to others. It's a steep learning curve that works best if you learn the what's and why's rather than blindly implementing someone else's list. Eventually you get a feel for it by playing with it. That comes in handy when
Other than Package Disabler I deal with everything through the UI settings, and with 3rd party add ons; no adb edits. The result is a very stable stock Samsung that runs well and a very long lived load. I block upgrades and updates; these can and do break Samsung's so I have learned and waste my time trying to fix the mess they make.
blackhawk said:
WhatsApp... ditch the trashware. An unstable OS can end up turning into a boot loop very quickly.
Any app that's misbehaving and can't be sorted out gets uninstalled or package disabled.
Find and correct the root cause(s).
All I ever played with are Samsung's and all needed to be optimized. There are numerous posts I've made of it but you see my post count; even I be hard pressed to ferret them all out.
I've thought about starting a thread but I run 9 and 10, plus I have mine configured to my device and needs. So what works well for me may be useless to others. It's a steep learning curve that works best if you learn the what's and why's rather than blindly implementing someone else's list. Eventually you get a feel for it by playing with it. That comes in handy when
Other than Package Disabler I deal with everything through the UI settings, and with 3rd party add ons; no adb edits. The result is a very stable stock Samsung that runs well and a very long lived load. I block upgrades and updates; these can and do break Samsung's so I have learned and waste my time trying to fix the mess they make.
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Jesus, do you have any apps on your phone? Shouldn't you just get a nokia 3310 at this point?
You bash every feature of a smartphone that makes it smart.
No apps, no software update, no features, no fun. Try living in the woods completely off the grid. Seems more up your alley.
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You bash every feature of a smartphone that makes it smart.
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If you pay more attention, this statement will read as follows:
"You bash every 'feature' of a smartphone that makes it a better spyware."
@Rod F
OneUI has a bug. I used to see app crashing pop-ups quite frequently during the initial period on my S22U. The same build and version of apps ran absolutely fine on my other devices, which too were running on the same Android version as my S22U.
Over time, due to optimisations and updates from Samsung, the number of such pop-ups have reduced to almost none now.
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If you pay more attention, this statement will read as follows:
"You bash every 'feature' of a smartphone that makes it a better spyware."
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Like I said. You should get a Nokia 3310.
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Like I said. You should get a Nokia 3310.
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GDPR happened because someone raised the issue and created awareness. Although it is only a first step, but that too wouldn't have happened if he had just decided to get the Nokia 3310.
Me Gusta said:
Jesus, do you have any apps on your phone? Shouldn't you just get a nokia 3310 at this point?
You bash every feature of a smartphone that makes it smart.
No apps, no software update, no features, no fun. Try living in the woods completely off the grid. Seems more up your alley.
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You failed to counterpoint my specific suggestions with your off topic retorts. You got possible solutions for the OP or just hot air for me?