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Ok...
I can deal with crapware, bloatware and all that stupid bits from Google, or Samsung...
But, why, oh why are apps on my Note, such as Youtube, Yahoo finance, Accyweather, and the most stupid Social Hub, classified as system components and if I try and disable them autostarting after startup, I get warning that it might hurt my sistem and prevent if from working at all...
Ok, if that was like Flash, software update, connectivity manager, etc... that would make sense...
But, this???!!!!
How do you people deal with these evils?
thanks...
note is designed for business persons...so such apps are of great use to them...its not CRAP.
Youtube is for business people?
Social hub?
OK. I did not say all of these are definite C R A P for EVERYONE. I don't mind them being there as the phone comes from the store. I DO MIND the maker (software/hardware, whatever) who decides to bet the stability of the system and the device on such apps of highly conditional usability.
It is great to offer all that diverse stuff installed on the Note, but c'mon-let people remove stuff they don't need...
No hard feelings...
Ofcours youtube helps business people a lot..and social hub for teenagers who can keep all their accounts in one place..social hubb is really interesting once you start using it..
P.S : YOU can always delete those apps
cmick30 said:
Youtube is for business people?
Social hub?
OK. I did not say all of these are definite C R A P for EVERYONE. I don't mind them being there as the phone comes from the store. I DO MIND the maker (software/hardware, whatever) who decides to bet the stability of the system and the device on such apps of highly conditional usability.
It is great to offer all that diverse stuff installed on the Note, but c'mon-let people remove stuff they don't need...
No hard feelings...
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Simples root and remove or flash a custom ROM, yes its a pain some of these apps but compared to some of the rubbish included on phones the notes not to bad really
cmick30 said:
Ok...
I can deal with crapware, bloatware and all that stupid bits from Google, or Samsung...
But, why, oh why are apps on my Note, such as Youtube, Yahoo finance, Accyweather, and the most stupid Social Hub, classified as system components and if I try and disable them autostarting after startup, I get warning that it might hurt my sistem and prevent if from working at all...
Ok, if that was like Flash, software update, connectivity manager, etc... that would make sense...
But, this???!!!!
How do you people deal with these evils?
thanks...
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Two(three?) words---Titanium Backup freeze :victory:
I freezed the social hub apps and a lot more as soon as i aquired root rights using titanium backup which is a must have app for all rooted phones. And I don't get any error warning messages. I even uninstalled somes as accuweather...
Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS
Yes, guys I agree with all this above...
But, every time I try some new app that is supposed to do more than the previous one did in this regard, there is always something it fails to cover...
So, you say "uninstall these apps"- Oh, I would gladly...
My phone is rooted and on a stock Gingerbread with Abyss kernel.
Still when I try with these apps any kind of subversive maneuver against those boring apps, I either get warning that it is a system app, blah, blah, blah, or that is can not be uninstalled...
So, does Titanium Backup deal with that too?
As for youtube being used by business people- today everything and everybody that earns a lot of money is called a business/businessman. I mean, you could make an app that sells legal porn and erotica and sell it to big sharks and then present the app as an business app. In this kind of way, youtube is also business type of environment... But, oh, why do I bother...
I am honestly so grateful that we nowadays have this kind of opportunities coming from such small devices... But, being an idealist, I strongly wish we would have more say as per kind of control over the software and the ways it behaves once we have bought the device, without the need to sweat over some hidden error in the kernel of a ROM we want to flash...
But, I admit, I am a spoiled little brat always wanting more...
Hey, they say "if you don't ask, you don't get..."
Peace out...
altae said:
I freezed the social hub apps and a lot more as soon as i aquired root rights using titanium backup which is a must have app for all rooted phones. And I don't get any error warning messages. I even uninstalled somes as accuweather
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Well, I did not yet get error messages. Only warnings that if I mess with these critical system apps (youtube and company ), the system MIGHT become unstable and unresponsive..
So, titanium backup, eh? Hmmm.. might try this in a few hours time...
So, it basically walls up those unwanted aps in the cupboard while the rest of the polite housemates are having fun at the party? Without throwing them in the sewage canal...
cmick30 said:
Yes, guys I agree with all this above...
But, every time I try some new app that is supposed to do more than the previous one did in this regard, there is always something it fails to cover...
So, you say "uninstall these apps"- Oh, I would gladly...
My phone is rooted and on a stock Gingerbread with Abyss kernel.
Still when I try with these apps any kind of subversive maneuver against those boring apps, I either get warning that it is a system app, blah, blah, blah, or that is can not be uninstalled...
So, does Titanium Backup deal with that too?
As for youtube being used by business people- today everything and everybody that earns a lot of money is called a business/businessman. I mean, you could make an app that sells legal porn and erotica and sell it to big sharks and then present the app as an business app. In this kind of way, youtube is also business type of environment... But, oh, why do I bother...
I am honestly so grateful that we nowadays have this kind of opportunities coming from such small devices... But, being an idealist, I strongly wish we would have more say as per kind of control over the software and the ways it behaves once we have bought the device, without the need to sweat over some hidden error in the kernel of a ROM we want to flash...
But, I admit, I am a spoiled little brat always wanting more...
Hey, they say "if you don't ask, you don't get..."
Peace out...
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You cannot simply uninstall system apps using the built in app management. You need apps that can uninstall system apps. Like titanium backup which I count on. Make a backup of the app before uninstalling it, just in case. Another one that can do it is system tuner pro.
P.S. It seems I'm not the first one to mention titanium backup in this thread. Why on earth are you still complaining instead of heeding the advice people gave you
Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS
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P.S. It seems I'm not the first one to mention titanium backup in this thread. Why on earth are you still complaining instead of heeding the advice people gave you
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I'm getting there... Just want to make sure the advice if good and useful for my case. I have already used app supposed to deal with other apps startups and autoruns, and the results were so-so...
So, I will try these two you mentioned, hoping they give fruit...
cmick30 said:
I'm getting there... Just want to make sure the advice if good and useful for my case. I have already used app supposed to deal with other apps startups and autoruns, and the results were so-so...
So, I will try these two you mentioned, hoping they give fruit...
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This apps will certainly do the trick. We are not kidding you
Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS
altae said:
This apps will certainly do the trick. We are not kidding you
Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS
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One only hopes he actually reads the instructions to the app... .
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What is the best auto task killer? I've been using advanced task killer by rechild from the market and it leaves a lot left to be desired in the way of automatically killing tasks.
Any good recommendations? Thanks!
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jwleonhart said:
What is the best auto task killer? I've been using advanced task killer by rechild from the market and it leaves a lot left to be desired in the way of automatically killing tasks.
Any good recommendations? Thanks!
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best would be if everyone thought so, but in reality, best is what you think is best, as best will differ for every single person. i like fast reboot pro. it doesnt actually reboot your device, it just frees your ram memory like it is being rebooted.
I don't think you need a task killer in Lollipop, you haven't for a few years now.
If you do want to kill activities, you can just enable "do not keep activities" in developer options.
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I don't think you need a task killer in Lollipop, you haven't for a few years now.
If you do want to kill activities, you can just enable "do not keep activities" in developer options.
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that just wont let other apps open. many android people dont think that we need a task killer, as android will free ram when needed. and thats fine, thats their belief. for me, android doesnt do the job good enough, for how i use the device. for me, android is a little lazy to free ram. and when it finally does, it slows down any device. so, i can change where i want it to free ram, but its still a little lazy, so i free ram myself, and am much happier about it.
jwleonhart said:
What is the best auto task killer? I've been using advanced task killer by rechild from the market and it leaves a lot left to be desired in the way of automatically killing tasks.
Any good recommendations? Thanks!
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A task killer is generally not needed nor recommended for any android version over 4.0. The OS will automatically fee memory when needed. Most phones upgraded to lollipop have ample memory and killing idle tasks serves no purpose and only ibcraaes the app load time when it is relaunched.
If however you must close a task for whatever reason you can do so directly from the system settings under apps>running>select force stop. You could even setup a shortcut to this on the home screen.
schale01 said:
A task killer is generally not needed nor recommended for any android version over 4.0. The OS will automatically fee memory when needed. Most phones upgraded to lollipop have ample memory and killing idle tasks serves no purpose and only ibcraaes the app load time when it is relaunched.
If however you must close a task for whatever reason you can do so directly from the system settings under apps>running>select force stop. You could even setup a shortcut to this on the home screen.
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Exactly. Unused ram is wasted ram. Task killers are bs! Don't use these garbage apps! I keep all my apps open and still only use 1/2 my available ram.
Well yea I only force stop if a program is not responding... But wouldn't keeping a program active in the memory use up precious battery life?
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jwleonhart said:
Well yea I only force stop if a program is not responding... But wouldn't keeping a program active in the memory use up precious battery life?
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No. When an app is jot in the foreground it is not using CPU cycles so there is no battery drain. Consumed ram does not affect battery life.
However killing an app totally will cause a greater amount of processing to open the next time you use it and that will equal more consumed battery.
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jwleonhart said:
What is the best auto task killer? I've been using advanced task killer by rechild from the market and it leaves a lot left to be desired in the way of automatically killing tasks.
Any good recommendations? Thanks!
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
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You're better off with greenify. Especially if you're rooted.
Posted below is an image from the greenify app analyzer... What should I do? Select all those apps?
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jwleonhart said:
Posted below is an image from the greenify app analyzer... What should I do? Select all those apps?
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
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I generally do not Greenify widgets but apps such as Facebook, Allcast and others that I don't constantly refer to. It's up to you what you use it for though. With 5.0.x folks can no longer Greenify "system" apps such as youtube, G+ and whatnot .. which is kind of a bummer.
I don't care what anyone says....android absolutely still needs a task killer. And I'm pissed off that atk no longer works. I have a note 4, and my available memory is now half what it was, and it DOES effect performance because android is still one big memory leak! Geeees!
Using task killers is just slowing your device down. Android is not like windows with its lousy ram management.
As for samsung devices those will always be slow due to the crappy way Samsung does software.
zelendel said:
Using task killers is just slowing your device down. Android is not like windows with its lousy ram management.
As for samsung devices those will always be slow due to the crappy way Samsung does software.
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Well, that's funny. ....I might be new to xda, but not in the least new to android phones and tablets. The funny thing is, all my Samsung devices have been plenty fast. And surprisingly (not really), that only holds true WHEN I'M ABLE TO KILL ALL THE BS MANUALLY. It is for this reason that ANDROID still needs a task killer. If there were ONLY ONE flavor of android, completely stock, on EVERY manufacturers device, on every carrier, then that might not be the case, but then again that would be Microsoft Windows, now, wouldn't it? And not android. Android's best feature is that it's customizable.
As for telling me that using task killers is slowing me down. ......EXPERIENCE SIMPLY PROVES THAT FALSE. If that WERE true, then rebooting the phone (the only easy way to kill all tasks now) wouldn't show a notable improvement in speed, and not rebooting wouldn't result in degradation of performance over time. And neither of those are evident in empirical experience. Not rebooting DOES result in degrading performance over time, and rebooting DOES result in notable increase in performance.
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Well, that's funny. ....I might be new to xda, but not in the least new to android phones and tablets. The funny thing is, all my Samsung devices have been plenty fast. And surprisingly (not really), that only holds true WHEN I'M ABLE TO KILL ALL THE BS MANUALLY. It is for this reason that ANDROID still needs a task killer. If there were ONLY ONE flavor of android, completely stock, on EVERY manufacturers device, on every carrier, then that might not be the case, but then again that would be Microsoft Windows, now, wouldn't it? And not android. Android's best feature is that it's customizable.
As for telling me that using task killers is slowing me down. ......EXPERIENCE SIMPLY PROVES THAT FALSE. If that WERE true, then rebooting the phone (the only easy way to kill all tasks now) wouldn't show a notable improvement in speed, and not rebooting wouldn't result in degradation of performance over time. And neither of those are evident in empirical experience. Not rebooting DOES result in degrading performance over time, and rebooting DOES result in notable increase in performance.
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That is because of Samsung lousy software. Take a look at any nexus device and you will see weeks of not rebooting without a bit of slow down or lag.
Your experience is not relevant as it is Samsung based which means it is not pure android. It's a distro like many Linux distros. Also your experience with Android is pointless as android is still new.
zelendel said:
That is because of Samsung lousy software. Take a look at any nexus device and you will see weeks of not rebooting without a bit of slow down or lag.
Your experience is not relevant as it is Samsung based which means it is not pure android. It's a distro like many Linux distros. Also your experience with Android is pointless as android is still new.
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So then it's just that you don't like Samsung and that you have a love affair with nexus, not that you have any real valid argument to support your sentiment about task killers. OK. Great. Happy for you. Now that we got your phone love situation figured out, let's honestly discuss the lunacy of your opinion. It is completely nonsensical. OOOOOHHHH it's a Samsung. The way they do things, blah blah blah. News flash, supergenius, Samsung holds 65% of the android market. Like Samsung or not, they dominate the market, so if android on their devices has memory leaks, 65% OF THE MARKET needs task killers. It doesn't take Stephen Hawking to figure that out. Further, Android launched in 2008. That's 7 years ago, and is the lions share of smart device OS's. This hardly qualifies as "still new".
In all your infinite wisdom, do you truly have no clue how ludicrous your statements are?
certx said:
So then it's just that you don't like Samsung and that you have a love affair with nexus, not that you have any real valid argument to support your sentiment about task killers. OK. Great. Happy for you. Now that we got your phone love situation figured out, let's honestly discuss the lunacy of your opinion. It is completely nonsensical. OOOOOHHHH it's a Samsung. The way they do things, blah blah blah. News flash, supergenius, Samsung holds 65% of the android market. Like Samsung or not, they dominate the market, so if android on their devices has memory leaks, 65% OF THE MARKET needs task killers. It doesn't take Stephen Hawking to figure that out. Further, Android launched in 2008. That's 7 years ago, and is the lions share of smart device OS's. This hardly qualifies as "still new".
In all your infinite wisdom, do you truly have no clue how ludicrous your statements are?
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Gotta love noobs with an attitude........ Was kindergarten closed today?
certx said:
So then it's just that you don't like Samsung and that you have a love affair with nexus, not that you have any real valid argument to support your sentiment about task killers. OK. Great. Happy for you. Now that we got your phone love situation figured out, let's honestly discuss the lunacy of your opinion. It is completely nonsensical. OOOOOHHHH it's a Samsung. The way they do things, blah blah blah. News flash, supergenius, Samsung holds 65% of the android market. Like Samsung or not, they dominate the market, so if android on their devices has memory leaks, 65% OF THE MARKET needs task killers. It doesn't take Stephen Hawking to figure that out. Further, Android launched in 2008. That's 7 years ago, and is the lions share of smart device OS's. This hardly qualifies as "still new".
In all your infinite wisdom, do you truly have no clue how ludicrous your statements are?
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First off before you start going off at the mouth you should understand someones history before you jump to conclusions. how much of the market samsung holds is pointless. Mainly when most Samsung devices here are not running samsungs Touchwiz software.
I am no fan boy of any OEM at all. They all have their issues. As does the OS.
Now I have used every samsung device that has ever been released up to the s4. Where I walked away from them when they lied to developers. 3rd party developers are what made them popular and like HTC they turned their backs on the developers. ITs only a matter of time until they follow the same route.
Yes 7 years is still very new in the terms of OS. The OS is still so new that it cant even take advantage of the hardware that oem are using in their device.
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Gotta love noobs with an attitude........ Was kindergarten closed today?
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Heh... "noob" ... LOL Attitude. LOL No... brains. One could easily say "supergeniuses" with an attitude... expecially when they have such a high opinion of themselves that they are completely blind to the truth from those arguing against them. ... making a statement like "Gotta love noobs with an attitude" is highly indicative of the inability to admit that the "noob" is completely right.
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zelendel said:
First off before you start going off at the mouth you should understand someones history before you jump to conclusions. how much of the market samsung holds is pointless. Mainly when most Samsung devices here are not running samsungs Touchwiz software.
I am no fan boy of any OEM at all. They all have their issues. As does the OS.
Now I have used every samsung device that has ever been released up to the s4. Where I walked away from them when they lied to developers. 3rd party developers are what made them popular and like HTC they turned their backs on the developers. ITs only a matter of time until they follow the same route.
Yes 7 years is still very new in the terms of OS. The OS is still so new that it cant even take advantage of the hardware that oem are using in their device.
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You continue to argue "device maker", when in reality that is a completely pointless argument. Gasoline produces high carbon emissions when burned, so we shouldn't use it. Right. True. But sense less than .0000001% of motor vehicles use anything else, .... well... you see the point I'm making there I'm sure. Market share DOES matter. Regardless of any downside you may perceive in Samsung devices... they are still currently the majority of devices in use. You completely contradict yourself also.... In one... Android doesn't need task killers. In another "They all have their issues. As does the OS" ... so then it does still need task killers.
Now...I completely concur. One should not be jumping to conclusions about someone, of whom they know nothing...... For example.... I'm a 30 year veteran programmer and software developer. I've worked on everything from IBM OS/VS1 and OS/VM, to DOS, to AT&T Unix, to SCO Unix, to VAX, to the very first version of Linux before there even was a RedHat, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc, before Gnome and KDE and the rest, from MS Windows v 3.0 up through Windows XP, 2000, etc. and all the NT's and other MS Server OS's in there. I've worked in the cell phone industry for several years, up to and including during the development and release of Android at the beginning. I've used several different devices, including the crappiest devices ever produced in the world (Huawei... who makes the Nexus by the way- I used one once. ONCE!).
So... when you start arguing "device makers" rather than the actual subject (whether or not task killers are still helpful), YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT! That's not a "noob" statement Mr. gee2012 ... it's a statement of fact .... and anyone who would think that they can insult someone like me, with a statement like that, is less than worthy of the disccussion with me.
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Heh... "noob" ... LOL Attitude. LOL No... brains. One could easily say "supergeniuses" with an attitude... expecially when they have such a high opinion of themselves that they are completely blind to the truth from those arguing against them. ... making a statement like "Gotta love noobs with an attitude" is highly indicative of the inability to admit that the "noob" is completely right.
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You continue to argue "device maker", when in reality that is a completely pointless argument. Gasoline produces high carbon emissions when burned, so we shouldn't use it. Right. True. But sense less than .0000001% of motor vehicles use anything else, .... well... you see the point I'm making there I'm sure. Market share DOES matter. Regardless of any downside you may perceive in Samsung devices... they are still currently the majority of devices in use. You completely contradict yourself also.... In one... Android doesn't need task killers. In another "They all have their issues. As does the OS" ... so then it does still need task killers.
Now...I completely concur. One should not be jumping to conclusions about someone, of whom they know nothing...... For example.... I'm a 30 year veteran programmer and software developer. I've worked on every from IBM OS/VS1 and OS/VM, to DOS, to AT&T Unix, to SCO Unix, to VAX, to the very first version of Linux before, from MS Windows v 3.0 up through Windows XP and all the NT's and other MS Server OS's in there. I've worked in the cell phone industry for several years, up to and including during the development and release of Android at the beginning. I've used several different devices, including the crappiest devices ever produced in the world (Huawei... who makes the Nexus by the way- I used one once. ONCE!).
So... when you start arguing "device makers" rather than the actual subject, YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT! That's not a "noob" statement Mr. gee2012 ... it's a statement of fact .... and anyone who would think that they can insult someone like me, with a statement like that, is less than worthy of the disccussion with me.
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Look I have had enough of your attitude. here you are just another noob.
Yes I said there are issues. As you seem to have an issue with reading, I never said Android needs task killers.
For someone that says they have worked on soo many things you seem to miss the fact that the OEM does matter as each one uses different distros of android. Touch wiz is as different from stock android as windows 98 is from windows 10.
Now with your attitude maybe its time to decide if you are worthy to even be here.
Now as this topic has been talked about to death over the years and it is going no where.
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So I had the XZ2 for a weekend and sadly I have decided to send it back.
It seems its got too many things I dislike.
The bogus medley of Sony apps and Google apps.
The fact that an SD card cant be combined with internal storage.
The fact that Themes are just a wallpaper.
The awful Phone app
The redundant Video/TV app.
The fact you can't hide apps you don't use.
So yep sorry guys I'm out of here...
Meet you on the One Plus 6T forum!!
And believe me if I could have got a good deal with HTC U12+ that's where I would be but I can't find a UK deal anywhere...
HTC it seems wants you to buy the handset outright and I can honestly think of a lot more interesting things to do with £750!!!
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eskimosound said:
So I had the XZ2 for a weekend and sadly I have decided to send it back.
It seems its got too many things I dislike.
The bogus medley of Sony apps and Google apps.
The fact that an SD card cant be combined with internal storage.
The fact that Themes are just a wallpaper.
The awful Phone app
The redundant Video/TV app.
The fact you can't hide apps you don't use.
So yep sorry guys I'm out of here...
Meet you on the One Plus 6T forum!!
And believe me if I could have got a good deal with HTC U12+ that's where I would be but I can't find a UK deal anywhere...
HTC it seems wants you to buy the handset outright and I can honestly think of a lot more interesting things to do with £750!!!
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But you can hide apps you don't need.
Or uninstall them via ADB.
Or you can root it. :silly:
What is a bogus medley?
MartinX3 said:
But you can't hide apps you don't need.
Or uninstall them via ADB.
Or you can root it. :silly:
What is a bogus medley?
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With my HTC's (One X+, Mini, Mini2, M7, M8, M9) I could hide apps I don't need..one springs to mind, the BBC Media Player...its just needed for the iPlayer and Radio player to work, it in itself does nothing so I hid it, also stuff like Root Cloak etc...
But with the XZ2...well lets just say I really don't like the half attempt at a Skin or Sony OS.
The phone is Google!!
The OS Skin on HTC is awesome.
I could root, yep but that wouldn't help me with the Icons or the text under icons..
The list goes on....I love Sony, I really do but they have a lousy design team on android.
Bogus: ADJECTIVE
not genuine or true (used in a disapproving manner when deception has been attempted)
(Sony Video/TV app...already redundant software, why bundled with phone?, Help, Support and Xperia lounge apps..they are all the same thing! Forced AVG Bloatware, Forced Google, Forced Sony News)
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a varied mixture of people or things.
(Just useless Bloatware)
eskimosound said:
With my HTC's (One X+, Mini, Mini2, M7, M8, M9) I could hide apps I don't need..one springs to mind, the BBC Media Player...its just needed for the iPlayer and Radio player to work, it in itself does nothing so I hid it, also stuff like Root Cloak etc...
But with the XZ2...well lets just say I really don't like the half attempt at a Skin or Sony OS.
The phone is Google!!
The OS Skin on HTC is awesome.
I could root, yep but that wouldn't help me with the Icons or the text under icons..
The list goes on....I love Sony, I really do but they have a lousy design team on android.
Bogus: ADJECTIVE
not genuine or true (used in a disapproving manner when deception has been attempted)
(Sony Video/TV app...already redundant software, why bundled with phone?, Help, Support and Xperia lounge apps..they are all the same thing! Forced AVG Bloatware, Forced Google, Forced Sony News)
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Ups, I mean you can hide them.
Only a few core apps are unable to be hidden.
You are sounding some kind of aroused.
Please keep calm, it is only a piece of technology.
I prefer the Sony XZ2 because of the open devices program and its high durability.
So it will be up to date and still damage free in 6 or maybe 8 years.
(My usual smartphone lifetime is several years long and I prefer to use LineageOS to be up to date.)
MartinX3 said:
Ups, I mean you can hide them.
Only a few core apps are unable to be hidden.
You are sounding some kind of aroused.
Please keep calm, it is only a piece of technology.
I prefer the Sony XZ2 because of the open devices program and its high durability.
So it will be up to date and still damage free in 6 or maybe 8 years.
(My usual smartphone lifetime is several years long and I prefer to use LineageOS to be up to date.)
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Lol, I get it, its a beautiful phone, it looks great, the screen quality is amazing, the sound is superb....it's just the little things.
Anyhoo, I've done it now, so MartinX3, Thank you and Goodnight!!
eskimosound said:
With my HTC's (One X+, Mini, Mini2, M7, M8, M9) I could hide apps I don't need..one springs to mind, the BBC Media Player...its just needed for the iPlayer and Radio player to work, it in itself does nothing so I hid it, also stuff like Root Cloak etc...
But with the XZ2...well lets just say I really don't like the half attempt at a Skin or Sony OS.
The phone is Google!!
The OS Skin on HTC is awesome.
I could root, yep but that wouldn't help me with the Icons or the text under icons..
The list goes on....I love Sony, I really do but they have a lousy design team on android.
Bogus: ADJECTIVE
not genuine or true (used in a disapproving manner when deception has been attempted)
(Sony Video/TV app...already redundant software, why bundled with phone?, Help, Support and Xperia lounge apps..they are all the same thing! Forced AVG Bloatware, Forced Google, Forced Sony News)
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a varied mixture of people or things.
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You just had no patience, otherwise you could have changed the launcher, the icon pack and everything else even without root.
Maybe you only like HTC (just like me with Sony)
marcogiannetta said:
You just had no patience, otherwise you could have changed the launcher, the icon pack and everything else even without root.
Maybe you only like HTC (just like me with Sony)
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I hear you, and maybe, I changed the launcher but I never like 3rd Party software over original OS.
I think what really blew it for me was the White Phone Dialer turning to Black after I dialled (!!!!) Why would it do that?
And the SD Card memory not integrating with the phone memory...
And yeah I love HTC but the UK has screwed me on getting a Pay Monthly deal on the HTC U12+ it just doesn't exist, in fact the only HTC deal I could find in the UK was with EE for the HTC U11 Life....which isn't worth a bean.
So I had a play on a One Plus 6T today and liked it, well everything but the one speaker!!
So I have had to compromise.
Well bye then and dont create threads after threads !!
The whole xz2 forum get messed up -__-
Actually themes are not just wallpaper,you can change your navigation buttons and colors.You can search for Theme Creator which is a official theme tool for Sony,you can customize the buttons,colors as u like.
e.g. ur favorite band's logo as home button
Good afternoon, guys!
After almost two years enjoying an Iphone X and also liking the experience with an XR for work reasons, I decided to move back to Android. Following the guidance in this forum, I bought a 512gb Samsung S10 Plus... And so far I have ejoyed the speed, camera and screen. I left iOS because of the lack of additional storage, the non-renovated-in-years look and feel, and the problems sharing documents with anything that is not Apple.*
Unfortunately, there are a couple of things that make me miss iOS, and I would love to know if any of you know how to help. I cannot think about a better place to ask than in the Android forum by excellence
Passbook is amazing for cards and boarding passses. Is there something similar in Android?
Gestures! - Apple has implemented those amazingly well, and I tried a couple of apps that were not close to Apple. Do I need to wait to Android 10? This is by far the best thing that iOS has
AirDrop - One of the best things that Apple has is this amazing tool to share photos and documents with others. Is there somethins similar in Android?
Integration with Mac - With an iPhone, I can answer a phone call from my computer, and paste text from and to my Mac. I know this is going to eb almost impossible, but noone better than you guys to respond *
Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?
Apple pay - Apple has every possible card in their echosystem, and Android has some while Samsung has others - It seems like is not so standarized
Thanks so much in advance for responding to this, and I hope I don't regret of coming back to my beloved Android world.
luismix said:
Passbook is amazing for cards and boarding passses. Is there something similar in Android?
Gestures! - Apple has implemented those amazingly well, and I tried a couple of apps that were not close to Apple. Do I need to wait to Android 10? This is by far the best thing that iOS has
AirDrop - One of the best things that Apple has is this amazing tool to share photos and documents with others. Is there somethins similar in Android?
Integration with Mac - With an iPhone, I can answer a phone call from my computer, and paste text from and to my Mac. I know this is going to eb almost impossible, but noone better than you guys to respond *
Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?
Apple pay - Apple has every possible card in their echosystem, and Android has some while Samsung has others - It seems like is not so standarized
Thanks so much in advance for responding to this, and I hope I don't regret of coming back to my beloved Android world.
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welcome back to the fray!!
1: boarding pass wallet
2: nope
3: pushbullet
4: nope
5: not sure, would probably take some tweaking, but its just not as slick in android
6: Samsung Pay or Google Pay. I have a gear S3 frontier and it has a radio in it that makes it superior to iwatches and any other samsung watch, it can emulate a physical card swipe and doesnt rely strictly on NFC. Ive had soooooooo many clerks say to me "that doesnt work her......." and when they stop talking and look at their register with surprise that it worked, i then say "yes it does" with a slick smile on my face
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welcome back to the fray!!
1: boarding pass wallet
2: nope
3: pushbullet
4: nope
5: not sure, would probably take some tweaking, but its just not as slick in android
6: Samsung Pay or Google Pay. I have a gear S3 frontier and it has a radio in it that makes it superior to iwatches and any other samsung watch, it can emulate a physical card swipe and doesnt rely strictly on NFC. Ive had soooooooo many clerks say to me "that doesnt work her......." and when they stop talking and look at their register with surprise that it worked, i then say "yes it does" with a slick smile on my face
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HAhahah! Thanks so much! Love the last phrase
I'll donwload Boarding Pass Wallet and Pushbullet (I remember that last one from my S7 edge). In Spain it seems like Samsung and Google have different cards one from each other and it makes it complicated. F.E. Samsung in Spain does not accept AMEX!
luismix said:
HAhahah! Thanks so much! Love the last phrase
I'll donwload Boarding Pass Wallet and Pushbullet (I remember that last one from my S7 edge). In Spain it seems like Samsung and Google have different cards one from each other and it makes it complicated. F.E. Samsung in Spain does not accept AMEX!
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Thanks!! and dude, even here in the septics (USA) amex is a complete PITA. its hit and miss at best for places that accept it. A few jobs ago, my bonuses were loaded on an amex card and i had over 3k on it and couldnt even buy gas in minnesota
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Thanks!! and dude, even here in the septics (USA) amex is a complete PITA. its hit and miss at best for places that accept it. A few jobs ago, my bonuses were loaded on an amex card and i had over 3k on it and couldnt even buy gas in minnesota
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crazy! In London 75% of the places accept AMEX but in Spain is not so easy. I thought the US would be the best place to have an AMEX!
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crazy! In London 75% of the places accept AMEX but in Spain is not so easy. I thought the US would be the best place to have an AMEX!
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right??? yeah, i tried a couple jewelry stores, clothing stores, grocery, hardware, tons of places in the mall of america (for a very long time, this was the largest mall on the planet) and it was hit n miss at very best. I eventually found a place that would let me withdraw the cash with a very small penalty. I went to doing that every so often to avoid the hassle LoL
1. No idea
2. Vivid Navigation, (Because you can use tap gestures.) experiment with this app, you'll enjoy it. I felt like I missed iPX gestures, but then I got used to using Vivid NG and now going back to iPhone gestures seem slow and require more effort. I use tap gestures along the bottom arranged how the navbar buttons are, and then swipe gestures on the side. You can also use swipe up on each section to bring up Bottom Quick settings (I bound to the right section), Launchboard bound to swipe up in the middle and Notification panel on the left section.
3/4: Use EasyJoin, it uses Wifi Direct which is what Airdrop is. It also allows you to answer phonecalls from your pc and control your SMS.
5. You can try changing animation durations and revoking usage data access to wellbeing, you'll notice it's a lot more fluid. If you root, install FDE AI, made a huuge difference for me.
6. Google pay. If you're rooted use magisk hide and the script for google pay to use it while rooted.
Chocolatetrain said:
1. No idea
2. Vivid Navigation, (Because you can use tap gestures.) experiment with this app, you'll enjoy it. I felt like I missed iPX gestures, but then I got used to using Vivid NG and now going back to iPhone gestures seem slow and require more effort. I use tap gestures along the bottom arranged how the navbar buttons are, and then swipe gestures on the side. You can also use swipe up on each section to bring up Bottom Quick settings (I bound to the right section), Launchboard bound to swipe up in the middle and Notification panel on the left section.
3/4: Use EasyJoin, it uses Wifi Direct which is what Airdrop is. It also allows you to answer phonecalls from your pc and control your SMS.
5. You can try changing animation durations and revoking usage data access to wellbeing, you'll notice it's a lot more fluid. If you root, install FDE AI, made a huuge difference for me.
6. Google pay. If you're rooted use magisk hide and the script for google pay to use it while rooted.
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Awesome! I changed animations and it indeed improved the performance. Regarding Google Pay, it's good but not perfect. Vivid Navigator looks promising but needs a PC to hide the Navigation Bar, so I'll need to check later at home
Regarding EasyJoin, I am using AirDroid and it seems to work well... For now!
luismix said:
Good afternoon, guys!
After almost two years enjoying an Iphone X and also liking the experience with an XR for work reasons, I decided to move back to Android. Following the guidance in this forum, I bought a 512gb Samsung S10 Plus... And so far I have ejoyed the speed, camera and screen. I left iOS because of the lack of additional storage, the non-renovated-in-years look and feel, and the problems sharing documents with anything that is not Apple.*
Unfortunately, there are a couple of things that make me miss iOS, and I would love to know if any of you know how to help. I cannot think about a better place to ask than in the Android forum by excellence
Passbook is amazing for cards and boarding passses. Is there something similar in Android?
Gestures! - Apple has implemented those amazingly well, and I tried a couple of apps that were not close to Apple. Do I need to wait to Android 10? This is by far the best thing that iOS has
AirDrop - One of the best things that Apple has is this amazing tool to share photos and documents with others. Is there somethins similar in Android?
Integration with Mac - With an iPhone, I can answer a phone call from my computer, and paste text from and to my Mac. I know this is going to eb almost impossible, but noone better than you guys to respond *
Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?
Apple pay - Apple has every possible card in their echosystem, and Android has some while Samsung has others - It seems like is not so standarized
Thanks so much in advance for responding to this, and I hope I don't regret of coming back to my beloved Android world.
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"Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?" If you've switched to a Samsung device then check out Goodlock in the Galaxy app store. This will allow you to modify your multitasking page and animations quite significantly. Give it a try
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richierich said:
"Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?" If you've switched to a Samsung device then check out Goodlock in the Galaxy app store. This will allow you to modify your multitasking page and animations quite significantly. Give it a try
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote...g_and_much/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
richierich said:
"Multitasking - Multitasking has been way better implemented by Apple, meaning that surfing through the apps that are opened feels more fluid and natural with an iPhone. Is there any way to change this? To make it better than it currently is?" If you've switched to a Samsung device then check out Goodlock in the Galaxy app store. This will allow you to modify your multitasking page and animations quite significantly. Give it a try
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote...g_and_much/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
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Simply great! this tool makes multitasking way more natural!
The only missing piece now is Apple Pay... They have a way better system than Android (you even need to dial your PIN number in the machine to complete the payment, while with Apple that was not needed).
Thanks, man!
Ok, so the passbook thing seems to be implemented into Samsung and Google pay. The similar gestures are coming with one ui 2. For iosish recents download nice lock and task changer off APK mirror
Just checked Vivid Navigation... Simply awesome. It replicates indeed the iPhone gestures and goes even beyond. Great suggestion, man!!
Im not impressed at all by my Pixel since Black Friday. I actually received a S21 at work and its WAYYYYY better.
Anyway, a lot of BS feathures are problematic. I feel like Im being spied all the time by google rather than owning a phone.
I want for example to get rid of the google lens icon and the google bar.
Is there any way to do that?
Fennec23 said:
I feel like Im being spied all the time by google rather than owning a phone.
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Congrats on buying the Google phone then.
If you want to deactivate system apps enable developer settings, enable ADB, connect your phone to your PC and disable Google Lens and Google Search system apps / packages using Universal Android Debloater GUI and maybe other googly bloat.
Want to have more privacy? Learn about flashing your phone, unlock the bootloader, flash Graphene OS, Calyx OS, Lineage OS or something like that.
Maybe root your device and block trackers and stuff using Adaway. Or stay unrooted and use something like personalDNSfilter.
Maybe selling it is a good choice for you
Fennec23 said:
Im not impressed at all by my Pixel since Black Friday. I actually received a S21 at work and its WAYYYYY better.
Anyway, a lot of BS feathures are problematic. I feel like Im being spied all the time by google rather than owning a phone.
I want for example to get rid of the google lens icon and the google bar.
Is there any way to do that?
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All of that spyware crap is preinstalled on ALL android phones, not just pixel. They're a bit more in your face on pixel maybe though, since gooble is showcasing it there.
My recommendation would be to switch to grapheneOS. If you absolutely MUST use proprietary gooble bits, grapheneos implements a unique compatibility layer to cause it all to run as a conventional user-installed application instead of demanding excessive permissions.