What is the best auto task killer? I've been using advanced task killer by rechild from the market and it leaves a lot left to be desired in the way of automatically killing tasks.
Any good recommendations? Thanks!
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jwleonhart said:
What is the best auto task killer? I've been using advanced task killer by rechild from the market and it leaves a lot left to be desired in the way of automatically killing tasks.
Any good recommendations? Thanks!
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best would be if everyone thought so, but in reality, best is what you think is best, as best will differ for every single person. i like fast reboot pro. it doesnt actually reboot your device, it just frees your ram memory like it is being rebooted.
I don't think you need a task killer in Lollipop, you haven't for a few years now.
If you do want to kill activities, you can just enable "do not keep activities" in developer options.
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I don't think you need a task killer in Lollipop, you haven't for a few years now.
If you do want to kill activities, you can just enable "do not keep activities" in developer options.
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that just wont let other apps open. many android people dont think that we need a task killer, as android will free ram when needed. and thats fine, thats their belief. for me, android doesnt do the job good enough, for how i use the device. for me, android is a little lazy to free ram. and when it finally does, it slows down any device. so, i can change where i want it to free ram, but its still a little lazy, so i free ram myself, and am much happier about it.
jwleonhart said:
What is the best auto task killer? I've been using advanced task killer by rechild from the market and it leaves a lot left to be desired in the way of automatically killing tasks.
Any good recommendations? Thanks!
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A task killer is generally not needed nor recommended for any android version over 4.0. The OS will automatically fee memory when needed. Most phones upgraded to lollipop have ample memory and killing idle tasks serves no purpose and only ibcraaes the app load time when it is relaunched.
If however you must close a task for whatever reason you can do so directly from the system settings under apps>running>select force stop. You could even setup a shortcut to this on the home screen.
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A task killer is generally not needed nor recommended for any android version over 4.0. The OS will automatically fee memory when needed. Most phones upgraded to lollipop have ample memory and killing idle tasks serves no purpose and only ibcraaes the app load time when it is relaunched.
If however you must close a task for whatever reason you can do so directly from the system settings under apps>running>select force stop. You could even setup a shortcut to this on the home screen.
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Exactly. Unused ram is wasted ram. Task killers are bs! Don't use these garbage apps! I keep all my apps open and still only use 1/2 my available ram.
Well yea I only force stop if a program is not responding... But wouldn't keeping a program active in the memory use up precious battery life?
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Well yea I only force stop if a program is not responding... But wouldn't keeping a program active in the memory use up precious battery life?
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No. When an app is jot in the foreground it is not using CPU cycles so there is no battery drain. Consumed ram does not affect battery life.
However killing an app totally will cause a greater amount of processing to open the next time you use it and that will equal more consumed battery.
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jwleonhart said:
What is the best auto task killer? I've been using advanced task killer by rechild from the market and it leaves a lot left to be desired in the way of automatically killing tasks.
Any good recommendations? Thanks!
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You're better off with greenify. Especially if you're rooted.
Posted below is an image from the greenify app analyzer... What should I do? Select all those apps?
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Posted below is an image from the greenify app analyzer... What should I do? Select all those apps?
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I generally do not Greenify widgets but apps such as Facebook, Allcast and others that I don't constantly refer to. It's up to you what you use it for though. With 5.0.x folks can no longer Greenify "system" apps such as youtube, G+ and whatnot .. which is kind of a bummer.
I don't care what anyone says....android absolutely still needs a task killer. And I'm pissed off that atk no longer works. I have a note 4, and my available memory is now half what it was, and it DOES effect performance because android is still one big memory leak! Geeees!
Using task killers is just slowing your device down. Android is not like windows with its lousy ram management.
As for samsung devices those will always be slow due to the crappy way Samsung does software.
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Using task killers is just slowing your device down. Android is not like windows with its lousy ram management.
As for samsung devices those will always be slow due to the crappy way Samsung does software.
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Well, that's funny. ....I might be new to xda, but not in the least new to android phones and tablets. The funny thing is, all my Samsung devices have been plenty fast. And surprisingly (not really), that only holds true WHEN I'M ABLE TO KILL ALL THE BS MANUALLY. It is for this reason that ANDROID still needs a task killer. If there were ONLY ONE flavor of android, completely stock, on EVERY manufacturers device, on every carrier, then that might not be the case, but then again that would be Microsoft Windows, now, wouldn't it? And not android. Android's best feature is that it's customizable.
As for telling me that using task killers is slowing me down. ......EXPERIENCE SIMPLY PROVES THAT FALSE. If that WERE true, then rebooting the phone (the only easy way to kill all tasks now) wouldn't show a notable improvement in speed, and not rebooting wouldn't result in degradation of performance over time. And neither of those are evident in empirical experience. Not rebooting DOES result in degrading performance over time, and rebooting DOES result in notable increase in performance.
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Well, that's funny. ....I might be new to xda, but not in the least new to android phones and tablets. The funny thing is, all my Samsung devices have been plenty fast. And surprisingly (not really), that only holds true WHEN I'M ABLE TO KILL ALL THE BS MANUALLY. It is for this reason that ANDROID still needs a task killer. If there were ONLY ONE flavor of android, completely stock, on EVERY manufacturers device, on every carrier, then that might not be the case, but then again that would be Microsoft Windows, now, wouldn't it? And not android. Android's best feature is that it's customizable.
As for telling me that using task killers is slowing me down. ......EXPERIENCE SIMPLY PROVES THAT FALSE. If that WERE true, then rebooting the phone (the only easy way to kill all tasks now) wouldn't show a notable improvement in speed, and not rebooting wouldn't result in degradation of performance over time. And neither of those are evident in empirical experience. Not rebooting DOES result in degrading performance over time, and rebooting DOES result in notable increase in performance.
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That is because of Samsung lousy software. Take a look at any nexus device and you will see weeks of not rebooting without a bit of slow down or lag.
Your experience is not relevant as it is Samsung based which means it is not pure android. It's a distro like many Linux distros. Also your experience with Android is pointless as android is still new.
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That is because of Samsung lousy software. Take a look at any nexus device and you will see weeks of not rebooting without a bit of slow down or lag.
Your experience is not relevant as it is Samsung based which means it is not pure android. It's a distro like many Linux distros. Also your experience with Android is pointless as android is still new.
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So then it's just that you don't like Samsung and that you have a love affair with nexus, not that you have any real valid argument to support your sentiment about task killers. OK. Great. Happy for you. Now that we got your phone love situation figured out, let's honestly discuss the lunacy of your opinion. It is completely nonsensical. OOOOOHHHH it's a Samsung. The way they do things, blah blah blah. News flash, supergenius, Samsung holds 65% of the android market. Like Samsung or not, they dominate the market, so if android on their devices has memory leaks, 65% OF THE MARKET needs task killers. It doesn't take Stephen Hawking to figure that out. Further, Android launched in 2008. That's 7 years ago, and is the lions share of smart device OS's. This hardly qualifies as "still new".
In all your infinite wisdom, do you truly have no clue how ludicrous your statements are?
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So then it's just that you don't like Samsung and that you have a love affair with nexus, not that you have any real valid argument to support your sentiment about task killers. OK. Great. Happy for you. Now that we got your phone love situation figured out, let's honestly discuss the lunacy of your opinion. It is completely nonsensical. OOOOOHHHH it's a Samsung. The way they do things, blah blah blah. News flash, supergenius, Samsung holds 65% of the android market. Like Samsung or not, they dominate the market, so if android on their devices has memory leaks, 65% OF THE MARKET needs task killers. It doesn't take Stephen Hawking to figure that out. Further, Android launched in 2008. That's 7 years ago, and is the lions share of smart device OS's. This hardly qualifies as "still new".
In all your infinite wisdom, do you truly have no clue how ludicrous your statements are?
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Gotta love noobs with an attitude........ Was kindergarten closed today?
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So then it's just that you don't like Samsung and that you have a love affair with nexus, not that you have any real valid argument to support your sentiment about task killers. OK. Great. Happy for you. Now that we got your phone love situation figured out, let's honestly discuss the lunacy of your opinion. It is completely nonsensical. OOOOOHHHH it's a Samsung. The way they do things, blah blah blah. News flash, supergenius, Samsung holds 65% of the android market. Like Samsung or not, they dominate the market, so if android on their devices has memory leaks, 65% OF THE MARKET needs task killers. It doesn't take Stephen Hawking to figure that out. Further, Android launched in 2008. That's 7 years ago, and is the lions share of smart device OS's. This hardly qualifies as "still new".
In all your infinite wisdom, do you truly have no clue how ludicrous your statements are?
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First off before you start going off at the mouth you should understand someones history before you jump to conclusions. how much of the market samsung holds is pointless. Mainly when most Samsung devices here are not running samsungs Touchwiz software.
I am no fan boy of any OEM at all. They all have their issues. As does the OS.
Now I have used every samsung device that has ever been released up to the s4. Where I walked away from them when they lied to developers. 3rd party developers are what made them popular and like HTC they turned their backs on the developers. ITs only a matter of time until they follow the same route.
Yes 7 years is still very new in the terms of OS. The OS is still so new that it cant even take advantage of the hardware that oem are using in their device.
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Heh... "noob" ... LOL Attitude. LOL No... brains. One could easily say "supergeniuses" with an attitude... expecially when they have such a high opinion of themselves that they are completely blind to the truth from those arguing against them. ... making a statement like "Gotta love noobs with an attitude" is highly indicative of the inability to admit that the "noob" is completely right.
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First off before you start going off at the mouth you should understand someones history before you jump to conclusions. how much of the market samsung holds is pointless. Mainly when most Samsung devices here are not running samsungs Touchwiz software.
I am no fan boy of any OEM at all. They all have their issues. As does the OS.
Now I have used every samsung device that has ever been released up to the s4. Where I walked away from them when they lied to developers. 3rd party developers are what made them popular and like HTC they turned their backs on the developers. ITs only a matter of time until they follow the same route.
Yes 7 years is still very new in the terms of OS. The OS is still so new that it cant even take advantage of the hardware that oem are using in their device.
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You continue to argue "device maker", when in reality that is a completely pointless argument. Gasoline produces high carbon emissions when burned, so we shouldn't use it. Right. True. But sense less than .0000001% of motor vehicles use anything else, .... well... you see the point I'm making there I'm sure. Market share DOES matter. Regardless of any downside you may perceive in Samsung devices... they are still currently the majority of devices in use. You completely contradict yourself also.... In one... Android doesn't need task killers. In another "They all have their issues. As does the OS" ... so then it does still need task killers.
Now...I completely concur. One should not be jumping to conclusions about someone, of whom they know nothing...... For example.... I'm a 30 year veteran programmer and software developer. I've worked on everything from IBM OS/VS1 and OS/VM, to DOS, to AT&T Unix, to SCO Unix, to VAX, to the very first version of Linux before there even was a RedHat, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc, before Gnome and KDE and the rest, from MS Windows v 3.0 up through Windows XP, 2000, etc. and all the NT's and other MS Server OS's in there. I've worked in the cell phone industry for several years, up to and including during the development and release of Android at the beginning. I've used several different devices, including the crappiest devices ever produced in the world (Huawei... who makes the Nexus by the way- I used one once. ONCE!).
So... when you start arguing "device makers" rather than the actual subject (whether or not task killers are still helpful), YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT! That's not a "noob" statement Mr. gee2012 ... it's a statement of fact .... and anyone who would think that they can insult someone like me, with a statement like that, is less than worthy of the disccussion with me.
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Heh... "noob" ... LOL Attitude. LOL No... brains. One could easily say "supergeniuses" with an attitude... expecially when they have such a high opinion of themselves that they are completely blind to the truth from those arguing against them. ... making a statement like "Gotta love noobs with an attitude" is highly indicative of the inability to admit that the "noob" is completely right.
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You continue to argue "device maker", when in reality that is a completely pointless argument. Gasoline produces high carbon emissions when burned, so we shouldn't use it. Right. True. But sense less than .0000001% of motor vehicles use anything else, .... well... you see the point I'm making there I'm sure. Market share DOES matter. Regardless of any downside you may perceive in Samsung devices... they are still currently the majority of devices in use. You completely contradict yourself also.... In one... Android doesn't need task killers. In another "They all have their issues. As does the OS" ... so then it does still need task killers.
Now...I completely concur. One should not be jumping to conclusions about someone, of whom they know nothing...... For example.... I'm a 30 year veteran programmer and software developer. I've worked on every from IBM OS/VS1 and OS/VM, to DOS, to AT&T Unix, to SCO Unix, to VAX, to the very first version of Linux before, from MS Windows v 3.0 up through Windows XP and all the NT's and other MS Server OS's in there. I've worked in the cell phone industry for several years, up to and including during the development and release of Android at the beginning. I've used several different devices, including the crappiest devices ever produced in the world (Huawei... who makes the Nexus by the way- I used one once. ONCE!).
So... when you start arguing "device makers" rather than the actual subject, YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT! That's not a "noob" statement Mr. gee2012 ... it's a statement of fact .... and anyone who would think that they can insult someone like me, with a statement like that, is less than worthy of the disccussion with me.
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Look I have had enough of your attitude. here you are just another noob.
Yes I said there are issues. As you seem to have an issue with reading, I never said Android needs task killers.
For someone that says they have worked on soo many things you seem to miss the fact that the OEM does matter as each one uses different distros of android. Touch wiz is as different from stock android as windows 98 is from windows 10.
Now with your attitude maybe its time to decide if you are worthy to even be here.
Now as this topic has been talked about to death over the years and it is going no where.
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ok I've voiced my opinion on android multitasking before. but this has me confused. I seem to lose RAM over time.
my setup is that I basically run my phone stock. no killing apps with task killers. I run the following services, HTC keyboard, Google finance, battery widget, Google voice/talk/gmail. that's basically it.
when I first start my phone, a bunch of apps show up running and the phone has 30 mb free RAM. over 24 hours less and less apps stay in the cache as "inactive" or "background", until only the above services I run are left running. yet the RAM stays at 30 mb free RAM still. why is this happening? I tested this out over 24 hours, but it gets to this point much sooner, maybe after an hour or so.
edit: also why can't the OS anticipate the apps I DO frequently use and keep THOSE cached in memory? literally the phone pre loads every single app I DON'T use, like Google earth, mp3 store, etc.
http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI
oh and I also run the xda app service too.
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In that case you'll need this link instead: http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI
Um, may I ask are you annoyed, or are you just interested? Unless your phone is lagging due to apps being idle, how much RAM you have shouldn't even concern you.. not to sound rude or anything, but are you like this on an actual computer as well? People seem to be obsessed with RAM consumption, if my phone doesn't have any issues.. I don't care how much RAM I currently have.
I'm just curious. this does kind of effect things because things like opera start to close just by switching away from it when these conditions happen. but a reboot and opera will keep my page loaded for hours.
it shouldn't matter either way, we are all trying to learn and understand how android works. and the point me this thread is I think this is a bug or a memory leak that people might not know about.
I don't use a computer ever, all phones.
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thank you, can't wait to watch there! might be what I'm looking for.
Eclair~ said:
Um, may I ask are you annoyed, or are you just interested? Unless your phone is lagging due to apps being idle, how much RAM you have shouldn't even concern you.. not to sound rude or anything, but are you like this on an actual computer as well? People seem to be obsessed with RAM consumption, if my phone doesn't have any issues.. I don't care how much RAM I currently have.
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Not to be redundant but that would be the exact reason why someone would care about their RAM usage xD I actually have that problem as well. Even if I kill all tasks, my phone will lock up still. Not sure what the issue is. I feel like the older the phone gets the more it's messing up. (I have had it only for 2 months lol
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I'm bailing on Android after 2 years and two devices. I'll just go ahead and get the canned responses out of the way:
"K GTFO"
"ur an idiot anroid is open source so customizable"
"nice first post, moron"
The carrier/OS fragmentation is tearing Android apart. While most of you look at the open source platform and see good things, I see a disaster. Phones are full of bloat, locked out of core functionality (Atrix, anyone?) and relying on manufacturers for updates is slowing the progress of Android.
As a Vibrant owner, I am accustomed to some flaws - chiefly a working, but slow GPS. But when my phone constantly fails to send text messages or fills my call log with calls I did not make, I start to wonder. That's just this device - how about the Nexus One's that were sending texts to random contacts? I just think Google might have bitten off more than they were ready for. I often feel like they tried to jam so much into the OS that they forgot to keep user interface in check.
Don't get me wrong, I see a TREMENDOUS potential for Android in the future. The sheer number of activations is staggering. The platform will easily be the dominate OS, no doubt. In two years, I'll revisit Android.
For the time being I'm going back to *gasp* a Blackberry *gasp*
I for one fully respect you point of view, And good luck in your further endeavors.
Im sorry Android isn't working out for you.. I personally love my Evo, and wouldnt trade it for any other phone (right now at least).
some people enjoy the open source functions, and utilize the capabilities to its fullest, while others just call it bloat-ware (which it is full of...in stock form), and being locked out of core functionality ( what more can a blackberry do, even in stock form????)
i'm not hating on your post, or your opinion, Blackberrys are fun devices (before coming into the world of Android I owned about 5 crackberries) and im sure if you dont use your android device to its fullest, then a blackberry will be perfect for you
Masterfuel
I feel the same way. Eventually I will get phone with any OS but Android.
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Im sorry Android isn't working out for you.. I personally love my Evo, and wouldnt trade it for any other phone (right now at least).
some people enjoy the open source functions, and utilize the capabilities to its fullest, while others just call it bloat-ware (which it is full of...in stock form), and being locked out of core functionality ( what more can a blackberry do, even in stock form????)
i'm not hating on your post, or your opinion, Blackberrys are fun devices (before coming into the world of Android I owned about 5 crackberries) and im sure if you dont use your android device to its fullest, then a blackberry will be perfect for you
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I'm as nerdy as anyone here and can certainly hold my own when it comes to fully utilizing my phone.
But phone is the key word there. I need a phone I can throw in my pocket, answer a message quickly and be back to life. A quick glance at a Blackberry tells me all I need to know. A quick glance at my Vibrant tells me the screen is off. Poor choice in phone model? Maybe.
The only things I will miss about Android are my phones amazing 4" Display, Google Navigation and WiFi tethering. That, to me, says a lot.
Interesting thoughts
I myself like phones that I can customize into something that I need. What I mean by this is with Android I can make my home screen tell me all I need. I went out and tried different phones and found that android based phones seemed to have the most customization options out there. I like the others but for me and this is only me android seems to fit me for what I need to have on my home screen. I like to see many things too. Like calendar, email, weather, SMS and a couple of other quick links to seldom used items. Other phones like Blackberry or Iphone work nice but I am often stuck by what they feel is right. I myself just like to have things my way I guess.
It's so depressing when you scroll down a page, and see no colours from anybody because they're all new and don't have profile pictures yet
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"K GTFO"
"ur an idiot anroid is open source so customizable"
"nice first post, moron"
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-5 points for knowing the rite answer and still opening a thread
MacaronyMax said:
It's so depressing when you scroll down a page, and see no colours from anybody because they're all new and don't have profile pictures yet
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lol, i was just too lazy to change it when I registered.. and honestly, I haven't thought about it until you brought it up.. I will go do that now! Adios.
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I'm as nerdy as anyone here and can certainly hold my own when it comes to fully utilizing my phone.
But phone is the key word there. I need a phone I can throw in my pocket, answer a message quickly and be back to life. A quick glance at a Blackberry tells me all I need to know. A quick glance at my Vibrant tells me the screen is off. Poor choice in phone model? Maybe.
The only things I will miss about Android are my phones amazing 4" Display, Google Navigation and WiFi tethering. That, to me, says a lot.
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understandable.. a 4" display is a rather large phone, and sometimes isnt easy to fit into your pocket.. As for myself, a quick glance at my Evo tells me all I need to know also.
obviously android aren't for everyone (otherwise EVERYONE would have one..) hopefully you will see just how buggy that blackberry OS can get ( try deleting 4000 texts at once) and come running back, otherwise have fun in APP WORLD!!!
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lol, i was just too lazy to change it when I registered.. and honestly, I haven't thought about it until you brought it up.. I will go do that now! Adios.
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Haha Yay! We now have colour to this thread
On another note... My PC is telling me I'm spelling Colour wrong
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Haha Yay! We now have colour to this thread
On another note... My PC is telling me I'm spelling Colour wrong
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That's because you did
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
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That's because you did
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
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Color/colour. Same diff. Just depends on where you live
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Ever tried using a HTC?
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Ever tried using a HTC?
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Yep. Had a MyTouch when they came out. The core functionality of the phone was pretty good, albeit a bit slow. I commend HTC/T-Mobile for updating such an old phone to Froyo.
What it boils down to for me is that despite Android being a much larger, more supported platform, it just isn't intuitive. Having to install a different rom every week to see if I can squeeze out a FULL day of use or get my GPS working just isn't fun anymore.
To me, Android has become exactly what a lot of people complained about the iPhone - a toy. The novelty (at least for me) has worn off and I'm back at square one wondering why I feel the need to own such a device. Aside from browse the web and play games, what can Android do that a Blackberry can't? I don't need to play Angry Birds or watch Youtube in HD - I have other devices to handle that. What I want to do is bang out messages and answer phone calls efficiently.
This was never intended as a thread to bash Android or XDA/Developers. I've noticed an enormous difference between stock 2.2 and some of the ROMs out there for the Vibrant. It was simply my observations on some (IMHO) big shortcomings in the platform that haven't been fully addressed.
Well, good luck on your endeavours, even though I think that HTC can solve your problems... maybe you could give the newer HTCs a shot, but hey, who am I to force you?
I think that you can still get your messages and calls out on android efficiently or at least I've managed to but it didn't take too much on my behalf; in the whole time that I've had my phone, I've only flashed 2 ROMs and my phone can pull about 48-51 hrs per charge with moderate use.
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I think that you can still get your messages and calls out on android efficiently or at least I've managed to but it didn't take too much on my behalf; in the whole time that I've had my phone, I've only flashed 2 ROMs and my phone can pull about 48-51 hrs per charge with moderate use.
Sent from my Bionix-V 1.2 powered Vibrant.
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Wow, I like the sound of those numbers. I am getting a little tired of my 8-9 hours of battery life. Flashing new roms seems to be making things worse too. Stock I was getting 9-10.
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Good luck OP. Hope you find something that works for you.
I'd do the same as you, only I can't live without widgets and homescreens anymore. I've tried WP7 but just couldn't use it because the lack of customization. GL with your future phones. Atleast you're not going to the darkest side (Apple).
I'm not smart enough to make a operating system for a phone(or for anything). That's why I'm glad there are smart people to make the stuff we buy. I just have one complaint about android(many but I'm holding back for now). I've been using android since Nam! and I just can't understand why apps open by themselves. ITS NONSENSE! I was a windows user for a while and that never happened. And instead of an "advanced" task killer I had a task manager. I switched because android is more entertaining, and I have no desire to switch to anything else. I was just wondering why Android Development can't fix this horrid imperfection. And why xda developers can do such amazing things with the OS, but cannot improve this. I have been flashing many roms since my discovery of android and yes i even tried many task killers. Plus mine is set to to high security and Auto kill level to CRAZY, but still sometimes I'll have 12 apps open and only science knows why!
Thank you in advance
Open your task manager in windows. There is a bunch of stuff running in the background. some you need, some you don't. You can close certain things that are not important, but opening others may cause them to open again. Same kinda situation on Android system.
I used to fight them with task killers all the time. Then one day, I just gave up. And I noticed no difference.
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Open your task manager in windows. There is a bunch of stuff running in the background. some you need, some you don't. You can close certain things that are not important, but opening others may cause them to open again. Same kinda situation on Android system.
I used to fight them with task killers all the time. Then one day, I just gave up. And I noticed no difference.
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Thanks I understand now its funny but I actually was in the market two seconds ago and found Watchdog lite. I read the description and I feel horrible and very moronic. I think im going to delete this thread.
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Thanks I understand now its funny but I actually was in the market two seconds ago and found Watchdog lite. I read the description and I feel horrible and very moronic. I think im going to delete this thread.
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Don't feel like that for asking a question. If you don't ask, you'll never know
Plus, I am sure there are others on here who have wanted to ask the same question, and maybe this will be able to serve them as well.
Thanks a bunch borrowedchief, much appreciated. I'm about to download watchdog right now, I'm really excited about this! haha
I use autokiller but u must be rooted. With autokill u just choose a preset and it does all the work.
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If you want to feel dumb, feel dumb because it should be "all DUE respect" not "all do".
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Compared to say the S5, or Note 4 ?
I was shocked last weekend when my friends and I had some bbq afternoon... All 10 of them had a shiny iphone 6 !
Mind you these people don't know sh ite about rooting and stuff like that, they just take pictures and post them on instagram and sh itbook, even my cousin and her husband... am I the only one who loves Android and Samsung? or they have not seen the light yet????
Lol. I just look at the sheeple and laugh.
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Mind you, these are the same people that will take their laptop to an "expert" when they have a virus.
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[/COLOR]Mind you, these are the same people that will take their laptop to an "expert" when they have a virus.
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exactly right, they abuse me when they get a virus on their laptop...
iPhones are just popular because they are easy to use and are updated often and quickly. It's a painless process to upload your music, movies and photos. iOS has a huge app library with very nice quality apps. The phones look great and perform well. Using one iPhone means you pretty much know how to use any iPhone. This is unlike Android where music management is a nightmare. The Play store is flooded with low quality apps and poor support. Using one Android phone means you know nothing about all the other Android phones. In short, to the non tech geek iPhones are the go-to. They are popular because they are easy to use. It also helps that Apples products are usually a status symbol.
The downside to not having Android is your limited in customization of ROMs or kernels. That doesn't mean you can't customize iOS. You just can't go as far as you can with Android.
Android Phones gives you more freedom.
Apple iPhones gives you less headaches.
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iPhones are just popular because they are easy to use and are updated often and quickly. It's a painless process to upload your music, movies and photos. iOS has a huge app library with very nice quality apps. The phones look great and perform well. Using one iPhone means you pretty much know how to use any iPhone. This is unlike Android where music management is a nightmare. The Play store is flooded with low quality apps and poor support. Using one Android phone means you know nothing about all the other Android phones. In short, to the non tech geek iPhones are the go-to. They are popular because they are easy to use. It also helps that Apples products are usually a status symbol.
The downside to not having Android is your limited in customization of ROMs or kernels. That doesn't mean you can't customize iOS. You just can't go as far as you can with Android.
Android Phones gives you more freedom.
Apple iPhones gives you less headaches.
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Could not have said that better IPhone is perfect when you just want the phone that works without much hassle. Android is perfect when you love tweaking and playing with your phone and not actually use it that much Because with a android you are never satisfied, there is always something more to tweak, change rom and other stuff so for me it always ends with just messing with it. To much time tweaking and flashing to find the perfect setup
Although the tweaking and flashing is a massive plus with Android for me, an even bigger plus is the ability to download files like mp3s and pdfs etc from the net or a torrent and play them straight away. With IOS you can't. Android is much more like a true mini pc compared to IOS. That's why I could never go back to IOS.
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Although the tweaking and flashing is a massive plus with Android for me, an even bigger plus is the ability to download files like mp3s and pdfs etc from the net or a torrent and play them straight away. With IOS you can't. Android is much more like a true mini pc compared to IOS. That's why I could never go back to IOS.
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Oh yeah, the mp3 download is a big factor for me. My friends ask me where I buy music. I said it's free and I use my phone, and showed a friend once... he just kept quiet. If you reverse the situation, I'm sure they'd be bragging.
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Oh yeah, the mp3 download is a big factor for me. My friends ask me where I buy music. I said it's free and I use my phone, and showed a friend once... he just kept quiet. If you reverse the situation, I'm sure they'd be bragging.
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you dont have to buy anything
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you dont have to buy anything
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Yep it's called stealing ....
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Ive a app called xender which sends all the mp3 & videos from android to iphone without any hassle otherwise I would have said bye bye iphone.I think iphone should reduce some restrictions,would gather more android users.
What do you guys think?
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RISHI RAJ said:
Ive a app called xender which sends all the mp3 & videos from android to iphone without any hassle otherwise I would have said bye bye iphone.I think iphone should reduce some restrictions,would gather more android users.
What do you guys think?
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Me, NOT at the moment. I am so used to android, just like my PC vs Mac, and my Canon DSLR vs Nikon...
But time will tell, now that Samsung started rolling phones that have irreplaceable battery and no SD card support...
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Yep it's called stealing ....
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Nope i meant it goes same for both os.
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Nope i meant it goes same for both os.
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Given the way the OP phrased his post - I think we were both accurate But yes you are right. There are plenty of people accessing content they haven't paid for on iOS too.
as an ex-iphone user (went from S1 to iphone 4 then iphone 5, back to S3 and every samsung since then) i have a similar view on them.
iPhones are simple to understand - not simple to use. there is always one way to do something, and thats it.
For many people thats preferable to feeling like an idiot when there is 10 ways to do something. go to android and watch a movie "oh it didnt work" - you tell them to try BS player or MX player and they just throw their hands in the air, because the built in video player is holy and sacred.
The reason for the simplicity is simple: On apple, every last thing is designed to come from itunes, and be played by the apple stock apps. there is one source to get the content, one app to play them, and the only thing that seperates the users is how much money you have to throw at the apple ecosystem - once someone has spent a few hundred bucks on iTunes content they'll never leave, because they add that value to offset the cost of a new phone. $900 iphone? pfft,i have $2K in iTunes, it might as well be free!"
on android, you can buy them from a dozen sources, pirate them, copy them from your PC - and you have infinite playback options. its simply too complex for people who bought the phone without knowing *WHY* they bought that phone, since they dont use most of its capabilities anyway. These are the common iSheep, the people who bought it because it's cool and looks fancy, but use it like a nokia.
Everyone i've converted from apple to samsung has followed the same path as well "why? this does the same things as my iphone, but the iphone is prettier and has itunes" - they do a direct comparison without even considering what the phone can do BEYOND the iphones capabilities. Showing them the S-pen, or directly playing files off my NAS/PC over wifi, or MHL/HDMI, or the note 4's super fast charging blows them away.
the iphone is the baseline, and they're so used to having just ONE choice that when presented with two or three or 10, they simply treat all the options as the same.
"i hate android" means "i used one android phone once, and they're all the same right?" - this also goes for themes, keyboards, stock apps and so on.
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they're so used to having just ONE choice that when presented with two or three or 10, they simply treat all the options as the same. "i hate android" means "i used one android phone once, and they're all the same right?"
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Pretty much. I was really over whelmed when I came back to Android. I was used to things just working out of the box. Now I have to rebuild my music collection from Google Play as that is eaiser then attempting to transfer from iTunes. Took a few days before I got the hang of flashing and building from source. Things have changed as if you keep in mind my iPhone is now just a really expensive GameBoy Advance and remote. My Note 4 is my daily driver.
So, on iPhone there is no proper PGP support, no NFC APIs (so no support for secure tokens such as Yubikey, or even NFC tags), no low level network APIs (so you can't implement your own protocol, such as OpenVPN).... (I could go on and on)
It seems like a no-go to me, it is pretty much locked down as well, even though you actually purchased the device you can't do anything on it that's not endorsed by Apple, that's why I strayed away from the iPhone in the first place (I used to own an iPhone 3GS, that's until I swiched to android and never came back).
As someone that works in IT, and need to handle sensitive data, iOS is just not the system for me.
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As someone that works in IT, and need to handle sensitive data, iOS is just not the system for me.
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But that's the thing of course. If you work in IT, you most probably want an android. However if you don't know sh*t about IT, which 98% of the people don't, an iphone really might be the better option. You dont have to worry about battery drains, wakelocks, background apps running, viruses, etc. It just does what it's supposed to do when a monkey operates it.
But if you're in IT, you most likely want to do some more stuff, go more in depth and then Android is clearly the OS of choice.
I like iphone coz everybody knows when u have an iphone.But you have to tell that you have a Note 4 coz there are hell lot of samsung mobile with similar looks.Also there is atleast 1 year surity that apple will not release another phone with similar looks.Also with some restrictions removed like access to files or install from external source could make apple on top.But guess this is how ios will be.Although I can now play movies & songs from external source by an app called xender atleast making it usable
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For me is simple, if I use iPhone I will become dump, if I use android I will be generous because android is for geek not for dump. Yes lol most of the people use apple iPhone but they are totally useless in technology. There are a lot of iPhone user who even don't know simple problems in smart phone world. My company have a lot of previous ios user try to use android and return back to iPhone because very simple problem in android (simple problem for android user) is bothering them, that android user can solve the problem in just few second. I have a lot of friends using iPhone and always come to me with some simple problem I just laugh and says only one word..... useless guys. They always says iPhone is very smart.. ha ha.. i always says ..yes you are dump and go study first.
I am not insulting them, I just want them to not blind and open eye, Technology is changing, iPhone is good but not perfect, android is good but not for normal user same as window phone.
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For me is simple, if I use iPhone I will become dump, if I use android I will be generous because android is for geek not for dump. Yes lol most of the people use apple iPhone but they are totally useless in technology. There are a lot of iPhone user who even don't know simple problem problem in smart phone world. My company have a lot of previous ios user try to use android and return back to iPhone because very simple problem in android (simple problem for android user) is bothering them, that android user can solve the problem in just few second. I have a lot of friends using iPhone and always come to me with some simple problem I just laugh and says only one word..... useless guys. They always says iPhone is very smart.. ha ha.. i always says ..yes you are dump and go study first.
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I do not intend to be rude, but in english the word dump means something different to the way you are using it. Perhaps you meant the word dumb?
http://bgr.com/2015/08/25/galaxy-note-5-vs-iphone-6-speed-test/
After seeing this Samsung must really have dorked the memory management really bad on the Note, it seem even worse than my old S6 Edge killing apps in the background all the time. Why put 4 GB of ram when you cant use them? Is it really this bad killing all the apps and have to reaload them or is the video totally wrong?
This is ancient news. Geez. Welcome to 3 days ago. LOL
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All of the new samsung phones are like this and its ridiculous. Hopefully a dev can fix it.
The "multitasking king" getting the ass kicked?
Sold my edge but thought they had fixed that annoying background killing. Samsung must be really stupid, one of the biggest advantages of the Note is totally dorked. Was thinking of getting the Edge+ as the Note not will be coming to Sweden but after Seeing this Samsung will not get my money
Shocking BGR published this. In my day to day use I don't notice any problems. I have a 6+ and it isn't any better.
For example. I use a radio app that if I pause it it will continue to record the station until I come back to it and pick up where I left off. Same app on the iPhone if I pause it and come back later it never keeps my recording. This has always been my personal test between the 2 OS's.
These side by side tests are not real world usage and prove nothing.
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Stupid tests get stupid results.
Who'da thunk?
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Sold my edge but thought they had fixed that annoying background killing. Samsung must be really stupid, one of the biggest advantages of the Note is totally dorked. Was thinking of getting the Edge+ as the Note not will be coming to Sweden but after Seeing this Samsung will not get my money
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/news-european-note-5-t3185548
i keep my benchmarks based on how i'd actually use the device. launching a buncha apps then relaunching (without ever using them) is something i see myself rarely doing.
That is my point. I'm not defending how samsung is doing the memory management, as it seems stupid.
But in practice, for my usage this doesn't seem to come into play often/at all. So FOR ME this just isn't a big deal.
iOS doesn't background multitask like Android. If you start a SSH/telnet, IRC, ftp/ftps/stftp, etc. session then put it in the background iOS will kill it after 3 minutes. If they had repeated the test but wait after 3 minutes to relaunch the apps then the results would come out different.
http://www.speirs.org/blog/2012/1/2/misconceptions-about-ios-multitasking.html
No one uses a device like that that i know of. If you multitask between 2 or 3 apps (AND you're not using multiwindow) there isn't a problem with apps being killed. The phone is lightning fast. If you're flipping between 14 apps, you're either an idiot or autistic.
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No one uses a device like that that i know of. If you multitask between 2 or 3 apps (AND you're not using multiwindow) there isn't a problem with apps being killed. The phone is lightning fast. If you're flipping between 14 apps, you're either an idiot or autistic.
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+1 the problem seems to happen when you multitask on more than 8 apps I think it is a feature to save battery then
use the task switcher instead of re clickkng the icon to get back to the running app
From my personal experience, I ran Hearthstone, Vainglory, Chrome, iFunny, and Pandora at once without any apps being killed. Then continued with Youtube, Facebook, and then Hangouts. Only then did apps begin getting killed. So I really don't see this to be a problem for sensible people.
I was aware of this issue but the 'real world' impact is negligible AT BEST. I just opened my gallery as it was '12 apps ago', it came up in the flash. There are some newfeed apps that do reload but I WANT IT to because I want to be reading the new stuff - just like it would I loaded it as a first-time app.
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I was aware of this issue but the 'real world' impact is negligible AT BEST. I just opened my gallery as it was '12 apps ago', it came up in the flash. There are some newfeed apps that do reload but I WANT IT to because I want to be reading the new stuff - just like it would I loaded it as a first-time app.
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Imagine however it was Microsoft word which comes with the device or Tapatalk. What if you halfway through writing a post or a word document, you background the app and check email, look at web browser, check s-planner and then take a call or text someone. You then go back to your word document or Tapatalk post and the app refreshes - resulting in you losing everything you had previously written. No matter how quick it reloads that would be an utter pain. The fact is - 4gb, 2015, fastest ram and SOC, it shouldn't happen. We should expect more.
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Have you ever had that problem in Word? I haven't, and tried exactly what you listed as an example...
I understand your point, though.
Thread closed, similar/same topic being discussed here >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/ram-bug-t3182414