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Updating to 5.1 without losing root nor system settings

Is there a way to sideload the 5.1 update (downloaded from the google images page) without losing the CF root AND not losing any of my system settings and configurations?
Thanks in advance.

LordGrahf said:
Is there a way to sideload the 5.1 update (downloaded from the google images page) without losing the CF root AND not losing any of my system settings and configurations?
Thanks in advance.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/using-image-to-update-nexus-6-data-loss-t3053158
Edit after rereading this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008 I would prob also do the reboot step after radio flash.
Maybe what your lookin for. If rooting is lost simply redo the cf root process and flash your custom recovery via fastboot. Most importantly this route will prevent data loss. I am going this route but will still backup because its safer and more responsible.

Without a modified img, and using the google provided stuff, you can't keep root. Just re-root, it's not hard.

Thanks guys. Few questions:
1. Do I need to unroot before sideloading the update?
2. Would I loose my currently installed and configured apps?
3. If I'm not losing my installed apps, what would happen to my root-required apps? For example I HAVE LMT pie control installed and configured. Would reinstalling root make it work as before without the need to reinstall and reconfigure LMT?
4. I'm still using stock recovery, would that affect what I'm trying to do in any way?
5. What is the minimal set of the update's images can I use to get this update? Like I think I should probably skip the user.img if I don't want my user settings to be wiped out, correct? What other images should I skip in order to not wipe out apps, apps settings, and system settings.
Thank you very much

LordGrahf said:
Thanks guys. Few questions:
1. Do I need to unroot before sideloading the update?
2. Would I loose my currently installed and configured apps?
3. If I'm not losing my installed apps, what would happen to my root-required apps? For example I HAVE LMT pie control installed and configured. Would reinstalling root make it work as before without the need to reinstall and reconfigure LMT?
4. I'm still using stock recovery, would that affect what I'm trying to do in any way?
5. What is the minimal set of the update's images can I use to get this update? Like I think I should probably skip the user.img if I don't want my user settings to be wiped out, correct? What other images should I skip in order to not wipe out apps, apps settings, and system settings.
Thank you very much
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If doing the fastboot way like I linked (I have not read through the procedure for sideload, so I don't know)
1) no
2) no if you only flash some of the IMG files. For your purpose it seems (I'm also assuming you don't have custom kernel) these are the ones to not lose data. Make sure you follow the links in how to flash this correctly with the appropriate order and spots where to fastboot reboot.
Bootloader image
Radio image
Boot image (kernel)
Cache image
System image
Recovery image
Then reroot with the cf zip like before then reinstall the su app.
4) no we flash the new stock recovery too
5) minimal, to not overwrite the user data, above. Yup we skip the user data image

LordGrahf said:
Thanks guys. Few questions:
1. Do I need to unroot before sideloading the update?
2. Would I loose my currently installed and configured apps?
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No.
LordGrahf said:
3. If I'm not losing my installed apps, what would happen to my root-required apps?
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You'll have to install su since it was deleted by system.img but that's all. Note that last time I looked CF-Auto still said it was 5.0.1 but ...
LordGrahf said:
4. I'm still using stock recovery, would that affect what I'm trying to do in any way?
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If you install a current TWRP it will install super-su for you when you request a reboot.
LordGrahf said:
5. What is the minimal set of the update's images can I use to get this update?
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Everything except user.img. You can read or run flash-base to get the Google suggested initial ordering.

MunkinDrunky said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/using-image-to-update-nexus-6-data-loss-t3053158
Edit after rereading this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008 I would prob also do the reboot step after radio flash.
Maybe what your lookin for. If rooting is lost simply redo the cf root process and flash your custom recovery via fastboot. Most importantly this route will prevent data loss. I am going this route but will still backup because its safer and more responsible.
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I flashed the bootloader, but the command to flash the radio (fastboot flash radio radio-shamu-d4.0-9625-02.95.img) failed
Any idea?

Nikos2k said:
I flashed the bootloader, but the command to flash the radio (fastboot flash radio radio-shamu-d4.0-9625-02.95.img) failed
Any idea?
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I don't really know. I usually just follow instructions. Did you fastboot reboot after flashing bootloader?

MunkinDrunky said:
I don't really know. I usually just follow instructions. Did you fastboot reboot after flashing bootloader?
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Yes, I rebooted the boot loader (and it indeed showed the new boot loader version after the reboot)
After the fail message of the radio flash command, I rebooted to the system, it works, and from the baseband number in settings/about, it seems that the new radio has been flashed (besides the fail message)

Nikos2k said:
Yes, I rebooted the boot loader (and it indeed showed the new boot loader version after the reboot)
After the fail message of the radio flash command, I rebooted to the system, it works, and from the baseband number in settings/about, it seems that the new radio has been flashed (besides the fail message)
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hmm yeah i really dont know why that happend. I guess as long as the new radio shows up as you say then it worked. I will actually be doing this shortly, since i am now at a computer

Just updated to 5.1
for those who will read later and more importantly in my same position.
I was on 5.0.1 BL unlocked, custom recovery+root, custom kernel- -wanting to go to->>5.1, root+custom recovery (cause flashing kernels is trivial) without any data loss (basically don't flash the userdata image) (also you could have left out the radio, I guess if you don't want newest radio, and the boot if you want to just keep your kernel--**not 100% about these two though)
I flashed via fastboot the: bootloader (then fastboot reboot-bootloader), the radio (then fastboot reboot-bootloader), then the boot (updated stock kernel), cache, system. Done, exit command prompt, then while in fastboot menu go into TWRP, whereby I choose system reboot and TWRP RE-ROOTS for me! Now I just kernel shop again

Thanks a lot gents. I followed the directions and upgraded/rerouted and none of my apps/settings got wiped. Yay!!
Can someone verify I'm on the latest versions for all components from my screenshot?
Thanks!

I also updated my Nexus 6 with 5.0.1, unlock and root, to 5.1 without losing data. I just had to re-root it afterwards.
I used Wugfresh Nexus root toolkit.
In short I used "Flash stock + unroot", in which I selected "Enable no-wipe" and "force-flash".
After this I rerooted the device from within NRT.
Worked like a charm!
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LordGrahf said:
Thanks a lot gents. I followed the directions and upgraded/rerouted and none of my apps/settings got wiped. Yay!!
Can someone verify I'm on the latest versions for all components from my screenshot?
Thanks!
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That's all the latest versions yes...

POST_ROOT and NANDROID BACKUP

Hi, everyone this is my first post.
Though I am not new to rooting, but earlier i used to do one click root..so unrooting was also that damn easy.
Recently i rooted my moto x 2nd gen xt1092 by unlocking bootloader and after flashing TWRP and later using SuperSu.
But here is the catch I didn't take nandroid backup before rooting.
So my question is
1 If I take backup now , will this backup be a rooted backup , means that if in future I flash this backup my phone will be directly boot in rooted mode..?
2 If I unroot using supersu are there chances I may stuck in bootloop?
3 now as I alreday have Twrp flashed how can I get to my original OS I once had? 9(system recovery image)
Plz let my doubts get cleared.
thanks in advance

saumyadip said:
Hi, everyone this is my first post.
Though I am not new to rooting, but earlier i used to do one click root..so unrooting was also that damn easy.
Recently i rooted my moto x 2nd gen xt1092 by unlocking bootloader and after flashing TWRP and later using SuperSu.
But here is the catch I didn't take nandroid backup before rooting.
So my question is
1 If I take backup now , will this backup be a rooted backup , means that if in future I flash this backup my phone will be directly boot in rooted mode..?
2 If I unroot using supersu are there chances I may stuck in bootloop?
3 now as I alreday have Twrp flashed how can I get to my original OS I once had? 9(system recovery image)
Plz let my doubts get cleared.
thanks in advance
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1. yes, you can do a full backup of system, data, recovery, boot, etc (default configuration of backup) and when you do a restore you have the same root system.
2, sometimes, you have a 50% of possible failure, the best option is flash the stock system files and after do a ota update or similar (never do a downgrade, can kill your phone(hardbrick))
3. Via bootloader (down volume button when you turn on the phone)
Write or copy this lines on bootloader mode (in the same folder where you have execute the command for your unlock code for the unlock of boot loader)
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot reboot
The recovery is on image of StockRom.
Sorry my English, I`m Chilean.

cyker31 said:
1. yes, you can do a full backup of system, data, recovery, boot, etc (default configuration of backup) and when you do a restore you have the same root system.
2, sometimes, you have a 50% of possible failure, the best option is flash the stock system files and after do a ota update or similar (never do a downgrade, can kill your phone(hardbrick))
3. Via bootloader (down volume button when you turn on the phone)
Write or copy this lines on bootloader mode (in the same folder where you have execute the command for your unlock code for the unlock of boot loader)
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot reboot
The recovery is on image of StockRom.
Sorry my English, I`m Chilean.
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Thanks cyke31.
My two doubts are absolutely clear.
I have a doubt regarding the 3 point.
where I will find that recovey.img file?
And after flashing that recovery.img file will I get back to my stock rom, that I had before TWRP was installed ?
Can I take OTA updates?
Will TWRP get uninstalled ?
your english is pretty good..
I am Indian ....so don't worry . I'm not grammar NAZI..

saumyadip said:
Thanks cyke31.
My two doubts are absolutely clear.
I have a doubt regarding the 3 point.
where I will find that recovey.img file?
And after flashing that recovery.img file will I get back to my stock rom, that I had before TWRP was installed ?
Can I take OTA updates?
Will TWRP get uninstalled ?
your english is pretty good..
I am Indian ....so don't worry . I'm not grammar NAZI..
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I recommend downloading the stock rom and do a clean install , because any change you've made in system, will generate bootloop...
Here the links to the Rom (you must download The xt1092 version)
Firmwares 4.4.4 hasta 5.0.X: https://mega.co.nz/#F!TkIwRTjR!m7W1V35qfLBiiUargAx1vg
Firmwares 5.1 y 6.0: https://mega.co.nz/#F!ow8igZRL!Z7vmN8GOpez2bVMYDvEKkg
And them install via guides on xda.

cyker31 said:
I recommend downloading the stock rom and do a clean install , because any change you've made in system, will generate bootloop...
Here the links to the Rom (you must download The xt1092 version)
Firmwares 4.4.4 hasta 5.0.X: https://mega.co.nz/#F!TkIwRTjR!m7W1V35qfLBiiUargAx1vg
Firmwares 5.1 y 6.0: https://mega.co.nz/#F!ow8igZRL!Z7vmN8GOpez2bVMYDvEKkg
And them install via guides on xda.
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so its better to flash system files than flashing recovery.img
though I'm in no mood to unroot my device. just wanted to know the consequences. I'll do normal backup of my current rooted rom. If in case anything happens I'll flash stock system files from motorola website.
Thanks for the info.
Xposed is the reason I rooted my device. Heard that is better to take nandroid backup before installing Xposed.

saumyadip said:
so its better to flash system files than flashing recovery.img
though I'm in no mood to unroot my device. just wanted to know the consequences. I'll do normal backup of my current rooted rom. If in case anything happens I'll flash stock system files from motorola website.
Thanks for the info.
Xposed is the reason I rooted my device. Heard that is better to take nandroid backup before installing Xposed.
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Yes, but xposed is a thing, and the modules are totally different thing,Xposed by itself does not cause any problems...

yeah know that but...wanted to be sure..... as there is no service center in my state

Custom Roms do not work on my phone. Can I repair my phone using TWRP?

I rooted my phone 2 weeks ago. While backing up and restoring Dem keys, I broke something I don't kno. Now every custom rom I install boots and gets stuck at Phone is starting and then reboots. Tried LOS 16, 17.1 and Pixel experience rom. But result is the same. Sony firmware boots perfectly, Twrp works, but custom roms don't.
Is it possible to wipe everything , all partitions and repair them using TWRP? I kno that option exists in Twrp and I have drm keys backed up. But woud that solve the problem I face with custom roms?

GOrMHATRe said:
But result is the same. Sony firmware boots perfectly, Twrp works, but custom roms don't.
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Are you missing a step in the instructions, like flashing the boot.img for the roms you're trying to install?
GOrMHATRe said:
Is it possible to wipe everything , all partitions and repair them using TWRP? I kno that option exists in Twrp and I have drm keys backed up. But woud that solve the problem I face with custom roms?
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To start over use the Flashtool, Newflasher, or even PC Companion. There is even Sony EMMA when something really messes up.

SXUsr said:
Are you missing a step in the instructions, like flashing the boot.img for the roms you're trying to install?
To start over use the Flashtool, Newflasher, or even PC Companion. There is even Sony EMMA when something really messes up.
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Boot.img is part of rom zip file. With all 3 roms I tried, there was no instruction to flash boot separately. It's always flash recovery and then flash rom using recovery.
I have already use flashtool and newflasher. That's how I rooted my phone. Both of them are successful in flashing stock sony firmware. But the custom roms are in zip file. Don't kno of its possible to flash those using flashtool.

GOrMHATRe said:
Boot.img is part of rom zip file. With all 3 roms I tried, there was no instruction to flash boot separately. It's always flash recovery and then flash rom using recovery.
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Steps :
Remove your screen lock (set it to swipe up or none) and remove all your fingerprints registered.
Download the zip above and extract the boot, system and vendor images
Make sure you have Android 10 TWRP as mentioned above with link
Go to recovery > wipe and wipe system, cache and data nothing else.
Then go to install and flash boot.img as boot image, system.img as system image and vendor.img as vendor image.
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- [ROM] Pixel Experience 10.0 Plus
Always extract the boot.img and flash it with fastboot. If there is no instructions then still do it.

SXUsr said:
- [ROM] Pixel Experience 10.0 Plus
Always extract the boot.img and flash it with fastboot. If there is no instructions then still do it.
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Latest file of PE rom is in zip format. Boot.img is in zip . But vendor and system are not img files.

GOrMHATRe said:
Latest file of PE rom is in zip format. Boot.img is in zip . But vendor and system are not img files.
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Then extract the boot.img and flash it using fastboot, along with TWRP, then flash the rom. That should work flashing any custom rom.

SXUsr said:
Then extract the boot.img and flash it using fastboot, along with TWRP, then flash the rom. That should work flashing any custom rom.
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I tried this but the result was same. Rom boots upto the lock screen. Then when I swipe it shows: phone is starting and goes into bootloop. I even tried an older version of PE Rom whic contain s only img files but again same result.
You kno initially, after I unlocked the bootloader I just installed stock rom and installed LOS on top of it as per guide. It worked well. I coud go into menu and see apps.
But I panicked that I had forgotten to restore drm keys. Instead of first checking camera, I went back and restored the Ta partition and repeated the steps after it upto installation of rom and since then I have faced problems . Restoring ta partition and flashing stock rom after it is where I have made a mistake and broken something. Can this be fixed with twrp. I kno there are options in twrp to format & repair partitions. Coud that help to repair what ever that was broken?

GOrMHATRe said:
Coud that help to repair what ever that was broken?
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No more than the Flashtool, Newflasher or PC Companion, so I wouldn't even consider using TWRP. Check your service menu for the status of your DRM keys, flashing them is a one time process so if they have been successfully restored there is no need to flash them again.
Use Sonys Flashtool to repair, and start over. If you're still having issues, then user error is at play here. What command in fastboot did you use to flash the kernel?

SXUsr said:
No more than the Flashtool, Newflasher or PC Companion, so I wouldn't even consider using TWRP. Check your service menu for the status of your DRM keys, flashing them is a one time process so if they have been successfully restored there is no need to flash them again.
Use Sonys Flashtool to repair, and start over. If you're still having issues, then user error is at play here. What command in fastboot did you use to flash the kernel?
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Which kernel are you speaking about? I had backed up Ta image using renoroot exploit and restored it using:
adb pull /data/local//tmp/TA-unlocked.img
adb push TA-locked.img /data/local/tmp
Then in window with temp root prompt:
cd /data/local/tmp
de if=TA-locked.img of=/dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/TA
sync
sync
Reboot phone
But actually, when I checked my phone just now and that tmp directory seems empty. So, does that mean TA didn't get restored properly? Is that why I am facing problems? Stock roms seem to be working fine.
As for sony's own flashtool, I have it installed. But thought it doesn't offer any different functionality than newflasher or old flashtool? Woud sony flashtool help me go back to square 1 and make my phone as it was before rooting so that I can do everything again properly?

GOrMHATRe said:
Which kernel are you speaking about?
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The kernel of the rom. Check your service menu for drm status.

SXUsr said:
The kernel of the rom. Check your service menu for drm status.
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The keys are there. The rooting status is shown not done because I have used that hide root unlock patch after going back to stock rom.

GOrMHATRe said:
The keys are there. The rooting status is shown not done because I have used that hide root unlock patch after going back to stock rom.
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So, now forget your drm keys for a minute, and do the following.
1. Use Sonys flashtool to reset your phone. Make sure you've backed up what you need to.
2. Using fastboot, flash both the kernel of whatever rom you wish to use, and TWRP.
3. Following the instructions of the rom you want to flash, install the rom using twrp. You may want to read them first to ensure you're using the required stock firmware that you will be flashing over.

Have you tried NOT restoring TA partition? It isn't needed with custom ROMs (as far as I know).

SXUsr said:
So, now forget your drm keys for a minute, and do the following.
1. Use Sonys flashtool to reset your phone. Make sure you've backed up what you need to.
2. Using fastboot, flash both the kernel of whatever rom you wish to use, and TWRP.
3. Following the instructions of the rom you want to flash, install the rom using twrp. You may want to read them first to ensure you're using the required stock firmware that you will be flashing over.
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I will try this but after some time. I have experimented on my phone a lot in recently. Need it to be stable for work for some time now. My secondary phone is not setup to work with gmail etc. Thanks for all the advice you have provided though.
On another note, now that Android 11 is out, do you think we will get a rom based on it for Xz1 compact? I even had a thought of skipping 10 and going for 11 based rom.

thefelineofaveb said:
Have you tried NOT restoring TA partition? It isn't needed with custom ROMs (as far as I know).
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I have not touched drm keys after I backed up and restored them for the 1st time.

Restoring OTA for stock

Is there a way to restore my stock rooted phone to allow updated the latest stock OTA updates without having to reflash the whole previous stock ROM? With my previous MOT phones (Moto 2, Moto 3, Moto 4) all I had to do was restore stock recovery and logo and then reboot to allow OTA updates. But since there is no recovery.img in this phone's ROM xml then that option is out. It would be nice not have to restore everything from scratch in order to get the updates.

pastorbob62 said:
Is there a way to restore my stock rooted phone to allow updated the latest stock OTA updates without having to reflash the whole previous stock ROM? With my previous MOT phones (Moto 2, Moto 3, Moto 4) all I had to do was restore stock recovery and logo and then reboot to allow OTA updates. But since there is no recovery.img in this phone's ROM xml then that option is out. It would be nice not have to restore everything from scratch in order to get the updates.
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Yup, If you are just rooted stock and have NOT installed the copy partions.ZIP... Boot to TWRP From FASTBOOT BACKUP your DATA to flash back after Install...Just the Data and install Magisk Uninstaller... After MAGISK unistall... Format DATA PARTITION ONLY...MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON BOOT SLOT A... Reboot to the SETUP WIZARD... STOP and reboot to bootloader.......HAVE STOCK BOOT IMG READY TO BOOT FROM CURRENT FIRMWARE... The STOCK installed boot img has the bootloader and modified devices flagged so that kills the OTA INSTALLATION.... If you have installed any modded logo.bin you have to replace it with STOCK on both logo_a and logo_b
fastboot --set-active=a
fastboot flash logo_a logo.bin
fastboot flash logo_b logo.bin
fastboot boot boot.img
DONT FLASH BOOT
it will trick the flags from trippin that stop the OTA
Setup the phone from setup wizard and it should automatically update the OTA so really its two updates....
Once its done reinstall TWRP and TWRP restore data then install Magisk reboot to your data rooted stock updated OTA

KtownJeff said:
Yup, If you are just rooted stock and have NOT installed the copy partions.ZIP... Boot to TWRP From FASTBOOT BACKUP your DATA to flash back after Install...Just the Data and install Magisk Uninstaller... After MAGISK unistall... Format DATA PARTITION ONLY...MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON BOOT SLOT A... Reboot to the SETUP WIZARD... STOP and reboot to bootloader.......HAVE STOCK BOOT IMG READY TO BOOT FROM CURRENT FIRMWARE... The STOCK installed boot img has the bootloader and modified devices flagged so that kills the OTA INSTALLATION.... If you have installed any modded logo.bin you have to replace it with STOCK on both logo_a and logo_b
fastboot --set-active=a
fastboot flash logo_a logo.bin
fastboot flash logo_b logo.bin
fastboot boot boot.img
DONT FLASH BOOT
it will trick the flags from trippin that stop the OTA
Setup the phone from setup wizard and it should automatically update the OTA so really its two updates....
Once its done reinstall TWRP and TWRP restore data then install Magisk reboot to your data rooted stock updated OTA
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Thanks KtownJeff, that does sound much easier. Why aren't others posting this much simpler solution? Has anyone else tried this?
I haven't tried it yet as it looks like they may be about to figure out the low call volume issue in custom ROMs and then these OTA updates won't be necessary anyway? I'll wait and see what happens over the next week or so.
I'm wondering why it's necessary to wipe the data though. Why isn't uninstalling Magisk and booting with the original kernel enough?

JerseyChewi said:
Yeah the calling issue is just a lineage thing...and lineage is so generically lame. mokee or corvusos are my favs. Most of the custom Roms work well.... and there is a lot more ROMS for our device that is not on XDA.... The Data may be fine Just back it up first....and I put this on telegram and if you haven't checked it out there is five channels for our phone with tons of stuff.....more ROM builds We also have Pitch Black Recovery now available which is twrp with a cleaner UI and lots more options
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KtownJeff said:
Yup, If you are just rooted stock and have NOT installed the copy partions.ZIP... Boot to TWRP From FASTBOOT BACKUP your DATA to flash back after Install...Just the Data and install Magisk Uninstaller... After MAGISK unistall... Format DATA PARTITION ONLY...MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON BOOT SLOT A... Reboot to the SETUP WIZARD... STOP and reboot to bootloader.......HAVE STOCK BOOT IMG READY TO BOOT FROM CURRENT FIRMWARE... The STOCK installed boot img has the bootloader and modified devices flagged so that kills the OTA INSTALLATION.... If you have installed any modded logo.bin you have to replace it with STOCK on both logo_a and logo_b
fastboot --set-active=a
fastboot flash logo_a logo.bin
fastboot flash logo_b logo.bin
fastboot boot boot.img
DONT FLASH BOOT
it will trick the flags from trippin that stop the OTA
Setup the phone from setup wizard and it should automatically update the OTA so really its two updates....
Once its done reinstall TWRP and TWRP restore data then install Magisk reboot to your data rooted stock updated OTA
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WHHAAAT?? I got a few questions...
Why is it important not to have the copy-partitions.zip installed?
Why you should be on slot _a?
There is no need to boot the boot.img instead of flashing it. The Magisk uninstaller restores exactly the same boot.img as you can find in the firmware zip. Your device isn't able to store any data on that image.
Sorry, but this is the most complicate way for an OTA I have ever red. You could sum up these steps to "flash the stock firmware". In the end the result is the same. But it's much easier.

WoKoschekk said:
There is no need to boot the boot.img instead of flashing it. The Magisk uninstaller restores exactly the same boot.img as you can find in the firmware zip. Your device isn't able to store any data on that image.
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Sooo... assuming you haven't changed the logo then all you need to do is uninstall Magisk? Why do you need to flash the stock firmware then?
WoKoschekk said:
Sorry, but this is the most complicate way for an OTA I have ever red. You could sum up these steps to "flash the stock firmware". In the end the result is the same. But it's much easier.
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It seems a lot less risky to me. Flashing all those different partitions makes me nervous.

JerseyChewi said:
Sooo... assuming you haven't changed the logo then all you need to do is uninstall Magisk? Why do you need to flash the stock firmware then?
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Assuming this is not your first time flashing the firmware and you already have a flash script/.bat file:
1. run the script
Done! One command and 5 min later you are on the latest firmware.
JerseyChewi said:
It seems a lot less risky to me. Flashing all those different partitions makes me nervous.
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Motorola provides you OEM signed images and a .xml sheet with proper commands to flash them as a .zip file. I've never heard that someone bricked his device by using the manufacturer's recommended way. I think it's risky to use your own workaround just because you're nervous about it.
Even if you unplug the device in the middle of the flashing process you won't face any trouble. Every single flashing command loads the image into your device's RAM before it gets written to the device.
fastboot oem fb_mode_set = no matter what reboot command you run your device boots into bootloader
Why are you nervous about it?

Why is it important not to have the copy-partitions.zip installed?
Ok so the copy partitons zip is only supposed to be installed when you install the first custom rom coming from original stock..... because it breaks the chain for OTA from motorola.... If you root stock and flash recovery only Its not necessary.... so that way when OTA comes it will move to the B partition the way that it was intended to.....but the boot-loader is unlocked now both slots start with a boot-loader, bootloader_a and bootloader_b.. .and the on board preboot chip will trip the first flag that communicates with stock flashed boot image which also holds the recovery and the kernel... even if its backed up stock.img with magisk, it will break the next flag on the device along with the custom logo.bin.... now the custom logo if it is cloned with a moto signature official it wont matter and the only one Im aware is logo.bin for the TMOBILE REVVLY variant.... when you boot not flash the stock boot.img it bypasses the security chain until reboot.... I've flashed b slot on accident and then booted several GSI and other lake Roms and at some point ill notice on the bootloader screen that maybe i have April 2020 when Im running July 2020 version....which is headache to fix and i booted to b slot flash stock as normal let boot to the setup wizard then reverse to a and do it again because it brings it back together... now the mapping for the AB partition with duel slots t is standard for all ARM64 AB devices Bootloader a and b Boot a and b Radio a and b which is (firmeware) slot Vendor a and b System a and b....
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-...ess-updates-affect-custom-development-on-xda/
the reason why I wrote it the way that I did was because I tried everything to OTA back and this was the only way it worked for me.... and trust me I stayed up for weeks trying to break it or fix it....I finally I came across a moto g6 thread where some one relocked there bootloader and didnt have the oem unlock set and they couldnt do anything to unlock it again using fastboot because the switch was grey out on developer options which means they couldnt root to fix..., I believe it was Sd_shadow that recommended trying to boot the boot.img like how we boot the twrp.img because it bypasses the security flag... well my first attempt it didn't work which led me to the mismatched boot-loaders and I kept at it and by process of elimination and fully learning the way these partitions communicate..... which is totally backwards from the way it used to be... If u leave data then flash back stock, the boot-loader thinks its fresh but finds its not......so boot-loop... tried it cussed and tried again and screamed but now its automatic. for me because of trial and error... I've been at this a few years now and I'm learning something new all the time and most of time when people don't post is because they either don't know or don't wanna give wrong info or maybe nobody showed them. There kinda is an unwritten bylaw at XDA (tough love)... you gotta learn by experience that way when get an opportunity to help or find a new way it makes it worth the stress
That is why I wrote it the way I did step by step in the easiest way possible because of my experiences and headaches...If it don't work you didn't follow directions.... Now I'm gonna tell you I re-locked my bootloader too and was not able to flash back ota don't even try its a waste of time because the only way to get that flag back is to re ball a chipset, or replace the motherboard, or buy a new phone....
Quoteriginally Posted by WoKoschekk
Sorry, but this is the most complicate way for an OTA I have ever red. You could sum up these steps to "flash the stock firmware". In the end the result is the same. But it's much easier.
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Our device is unbreakable... trust me I've tried to and still haven't managed to Qualcomm brick it.... test point is the only way to get it to EDL mode and i plan on taking my screen off tonight just to see if I can..... and write another essay because some ass hole from Germany thinks he know everthing

KtownJeff said:
Why is it important not to have the copy-partitions.zip installed?
Ok so the copy partitons zip is only supposed to be installed when you install the first custom rom coming from original stock..... because it breaks the chain for OTA from motorola.... If you root stock and flash recovery only Its not necessary....
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First of all the copy-partions.zip is a simple dd command script packed with flashize to flash it through TWRP. It determines the active slot and copies your essential partitions to the inactive one in case they were left blank by your manufacturer. You should have a look inside it.
Also there is no complicated chain of safety for OTAs. When a device powers on, the bootloader first checks if a device is locked or unlocked. If a device is unlocked, the bootloader shows the user a warning and then proceeds to boot even if the loaded OS isn't signed by the root of trust.
If the device is locked, the bootloader goes through the steps in Verifying Boot to verify the device's software.
Magisk hides the unlock state to pretend a trustworthy environment. That's the reason why OEM unlocking option is active and OTA updates start to install. But OTA update files verify your system's integrity by calculating checksums for each partition. This check fails with a active Magisk installation and update process ends with an error.
A preboot chip or sth like this is not in use on Moto devices. Partitions 1-14 (+/-) are defined as your bootloader. A prebootloader does only exist for MediaTek devices but not for SnapDragon.
There's a lot of official documentation about all the stuff...
In my opinion the easiest way to update your device is to flash the stock ROM. One script and it's done. No need to flash this and boot that only to be able to download the OTA which hasn't been installed until then. Your system takes more time to flash the OTA update then fastboot takes to flash the firmware.
BTW: You can call me what you want but that doesn't make your statements right either.

WoKoschekk said:
First of all the copy-partions.zip is a simple dd command script packed with flashize to flash it through TWRP. It determines the active slot and copies your essential partitions to the inactive one in case they were left blank by your manufacturer. You should have a look inside it.
Also there is no complicated chain of safety for OTAs. When a device powers on, the bootloader first checks if a device is locked or unlocked. If a device is unlocked, the bootloader shows the user a warning and then proceeds to boot even if the loaded OS isn't signed by the root of trust.
If the device is locked, the bootloader goes through the steps in Verifying Boot to verify the device's software.
Magisk hides the unlock state to pretend a trustworthy environment. That's the reason why OEM unlocking option is active and OTA updates start to install. But OTA update files verify your system's integrity by calculating checksums for each partition. This check fails with a active Magisk installation and update process ends with an error.
A preboot chip or sth like this is not in use on Moto devices. Partitions 1-14 (+/-) are defined as your bootloader. A prebootloader does only exist for MediaTek devices but not for SnapDragon.
There's a lot of official documentation about all the stuff...
In my opinion the easiest way to update your device is to flash the stock ROM. One script and it's done. No need to flash this and boot that only to be able to download the OTA which hasn't been installed until then. Your system takes more time to flash the OTA update then fastboot takes to flash the firmware.
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KtownJeff said:
Yes correct it easier to flash rom after it is available for download with a month behind....
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You should check your sources.

KtownJeff said:
Quoteriginally Posted by WoKoschekk
Sorry, but this is the most complicate way for an OTA I have ever red. You could sum up these steps to "flash the stock firmware". In the end the result is the same. But it's much easier.
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Our device is unbreakable... trust me I've tried to and still haven't managed to Qualcomm brick it.... test point is the only way to get it to EDL mode and i plan on taking my screen off tonight just to see if I can..... and write another essay because some ass hole from Germany thinks he know everthing
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I also want to leave my device in oem_locked state and not in flashing_locked

Holy Moly! Come on guys! I only wanted a way to fix OTA on my rooted stock installation without having to do a complete stock reinstall. At the time I asked the question, the newest full stock ROM update was not yet available. It is now. My point was I didn't like going through a complete reinstall of my apps and settings, Backing up my Data partition then trying to restore it has never seemed to work for me. Anyway you all need to just chill and put your egos away.

pastorbob62 said:
Holy Moly! Come on guys! I only wanted a way to fix OTA on my rooted stock installation without having to do a complete stock reinstall. At the time I asked the question, the newest full stock ROM update was not yet available. It is now. My point was I didn't like going through a complete reinstall of my apps and settings, Backing up my Data partition then trying to restore it has never seemed to work for me. Anyway you all need to just chill and put your egos away.
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The fact is you need to restore everything back to stock for an OTA. This includes a deinstallation of Magisk (also modules are gone) and restore your stock boot.img with the stock recovery. Then you download and install the OTA, go back to fastboot mode and start installing TWRP and everything else.
This was option 1.
Option 2: Download the latest firmware on Telegram (only possible with your device!) or install LMSA tool, which also downloads the latest build. Boot into fastboot, flash the firmware (without erase userdata) and boot TWRP. Flash TWRP installer and Magisk. Done!

WoKoschekk said:
The fact is you need to restore everything back to stock for an OTA. This includes a deinstallation of Magisk (also modules are gone) and restore your stock boot.img with the stock recovery. Then you download and install the OTA, go back to fastboot mode and start installing TWRP and everything else.
This was option 1.
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I'm thinking not, since this was the first thing I tried when I got the notification for the update. And the update still failed.
WoKoschekk said:
Option 2: Download the latest firmware on Telegram (only possible with your device!) or install LMSA tool, which also downloads the latest build. Boot into fastboot, flash the firmware (without erase userdata) and boot TWRP. Flash TWRP installer and Magisk. Done!
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Telegram didn't have it when I installed the update. LMSA kept giving me a "Decompression failed" error message. So I just reinstalled the stock version I was already on and allowed the update to complete. Then reinstalled TWRP and Magisk without any issues once I had all of my apps and data restored.
Not taking any offense here, but I am not a noob and while I didn't give all of the details to what I had tried I also didn't want to reinvent the wheel. I didn't think about eliminating the line "erase userdata". Since it was very simple with previous devices to do it I knew there had to be an easier way. By the way, the XT1965-2_LAKE_RETLA_10_QPWS30.61-21-14_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-XT1965-2-SUTEL-DS_CFC.xml.zip verson of the ROM is now available here: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/lake/official/

pastorbob62 said:
Telegram didn't have it when I installed the update.
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By the way, the XT1965-2_LAKE_RETLA_10_QPWS30.61-21-14_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-XT1965-2-SUTEL-DS_CFC.xml.zip verson of the ROM is now available here: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/lake/official/
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The mentioned firmware is available on Telegram since Sep 03. Screenshot
Telegram group: https://t.me/s/motoupdatestracker

WoKoschekk said:
The mentioned firmware is available on Telegram since Sep 03. Screenshot
Telegram group: https://t.me/s/motoupdatestracker
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That's nice. But the one for my phone was not available on tracker until the day after I updated via OTA.

KtownJeff said:
Yup, If you are just rooted stock and have NOT installed the copy partions.ZIP... Boot to TWRP From FASTBOOT BACKUP your DATA to flash back after Install...Just the Data and install Magisk Uninstaller... After MAGISK unistall... Format DATA PARTITION ONLY...MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON BOOT SLOT A... Reboot to the SETUP WIZARD... STOP and reboot to bootloader.......HAVE STOCK BOOT IMG READY TO BOOT FROM CURRENT FIRMWARE... The STOCK installed boot img has the bootloader and modified devices flagged so that kills the OTA INSTALLATION.... If you have installed any modded logo.bin you have to replace it with STOCK on both logo_a and logo_b
fastboot --set-active=a
fastboot flash logo_a logo.bin
fastboot flash logo_b logo.bin
fastboot boot boot.img
DONT FLASH BOOT
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I tried this to go back to stock rom from LOS17.
With : fastboot --set-active=a
I have this error :
(bootloader) slot-suffixes: not found
error: could not get suffixes
Any idea of what it means ?
Many thanks

[email protected] said:
I tried this to go back to stock rom from LOS17.
I've never seen that error before have you tried google search for the error?
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[email protected] said:
I tried this to go back to stock rom from LOS17.
With : fastboot --set-active=a
I have this error :
(bootloader) slot-suffixes: not found
error: could not get suffixes
Any idea of what it means ?
Many thanks
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Don't know what your error means, but flash the stock ROM and it should be fine.

Question Help: your device is corrupted and cannot be trusted and will not boot

Situation:
I tried rooting my phone. I extracted the boot.img with payloaddumper from the latest android 11 Zenfone 8 image from the Asus website (the same version I have on my phone). I patched that image file with Magisk. Flashed that file to my phone with fastboot which succeeded. But after rebooting this is the message I get:
"Your device is corrupted and cannot be trusted and will not boot" and than a link to g.co/ABH
There is no option to "press power to continue" as seen on other screenshots of this problem on YouTube. So I am stuck. I cannot enter recovery. It tries to boot a few times but than stays at the "start" screen while booting.
What I tried to fix this:
Internet states that I have to disable DM check with: adb reboot "dm-verity enforcing". But ADB does not see my device. Fastboot does! So I tried flashing back the original/unpatched boot.img but the result stays the same.
Question:
What can I do to fix this? Also flash Vendor_boot.img? At this moment I rather not do too much but wait for advice/tips in this forum.
And a few "stupid" questions:
- When trying to root the method described here in this forum..... does the bootloader have to be unlocked? My is not.
- IF the bootloader has to be open.... I know I have to use an Asus tool.... but is there a way to do it with ADB/Fastboot?
- When it is necessary to flash my whole device.... is there a way to save my data? (for example flash trwp first and back up data to a thumbdrive)
Any help much appreciated!

>>does the bootloader have to be unlocked
Yes
>>but is there a way to do it with ADB/Fastboot?
No. Only to relock. Or at least I haven't seen such method.
>>When it is necessary to flash my whole device
What do you mean?
>>is there a way to save my data?
If you have root and mean apps data - Swift backup. For me it is failed to restore only few apps (banking + Signal messenger) all other apps are ok.

dron39 said:
>>does the bootloader have to be unlocked
Yes
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Ok.... bummer..... the device was not unlocked....... So NOT being unlocked did not prevent the flashing I guess. And a locked bootloader is preventing disabling the DM check?
dron39 said:
>>When it is necessary to flash my whole device
What do you mean?
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If undoing my flash/error (= no unlocked bootloader) is not possible. I have to do a complete reflash I guess. So that would wipe all data. I was wondering if I could flash only parts of the system so some partitions would be spared (so I could save some data..... or install TWRP and maybe save some data)
dron39 said:
>>is there a way to save my data?
If you have root and mean apps data - Swift backup. For me it is failed to restore only few apps (banking + Signal messenger) all other apps are ok.
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Root was the goal. But that did not happen yet because of the locked bootloader as I understand it now. So no root = no backup/saving data?

If I download the last OTA update my phone recieved, extract boot.img from it and flash that to my phone with fastboot will that restore my phone to a bootable state? If not,what will?