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I know this is the Mi Mix forum and there'll be an obvious bias but I'd like to get some opinions.
I got a Huawei P10 as a gift and I'm very impressed by EMUI despite what the detractors say. As a Redmi Note 3 owner I also like MIUI a lot (once I changed that horrible launcher). It also begs the question as to who copied who in terms of functionality and customizations. Let's just say they're equal but EMUI just edges it for me.
Given that the Mix2 and Mate 10 will both be near bezel-less with excellent battery life (by reputation), which one would you get? Pros and cons of each and why? No custom roms or modding. Both stock.
It depends what you're looking for.
The Mate 10 will definitely have one of the best cameras (2 ISPs, a first for smartphones), it will also have a separate AI unit.
Kirin 970 will have 3 Cortex A73 cores - definitely no slouch in terms of performance.
BUT, Huawei is known for not having developer-friendly devices, in contrast to Xiaomi. Especially if you're looking at recovery options.
The fastboot images guarantee a restore from nearly every possible softbrick scenario.
Coming from a bricked ASUS Zenfone 3 Deluxe, I am quite happy with my Xiaomi Mi MIX & will probably skip the upcoming generation to climb on the SD845/Kirin 980 train.
#edit# case in point (restore options):
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-remove-emui-firmware-downloads/
Twotems said:
I know this is the Mi Mix forum and there'll be an obvious bias but I'd like to get some opinions.
I got a Huawei P10 as a gift and I'm very impressed by EMUI despite what the detractors say. As a Redmi Note 3 owner I also like MIUI a lot (once I changed that horrible launcher). It also begs the question as to who copied who in terms of functionality and customizations. Let's just say they're equal but EMUI just edges it for me.
Given that the Mix2 and Mate 10 will both be near bezel-less with excellent battery life (by reputation), which one would you get? Pros and cons of each and why? No custom roms or modding. Both stock.
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Both are torture in stock form. My 2 least favorite OS and the 3 days I had to run my mix stock felt like an eternity.
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Both are torture in stock form. My 2 least favorite OS and the 3 days I had to run my mix stock felt like an eternity.
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To each his own I guess but it doesn't answer the question.
adwinp said:
It depends what you're looking for.
The Mate 10 will definitely have one of the best cameras (2 ISPs, a first for smartphones), it will also have a separate AI unit.
Kirin 970 will have 3 Cortex A73 cores - definitely no slouch in terms of performance.
BUT, Huawei is known for not having developer-friendly devices, in contrast to Xiaomi. Especially if you're looking at recovery options.
The fastboot images guarantee a restore from nearly every possible softbrick scenario.
Coming from a bricked ASUS Zenfone 3 Deluxe, I am quite happy with my Xiaomi Mi MIX & will probably skip the upcoming generation to climb on the SD845/Kirin 980 train.
#edit# case in point (restore options):
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-remove-emui-firmware-downloads/
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Thanks for the informative reply. Very valid points. As I said I'm not a modder but having that option with the Xiaomi may become important.
Hi guys,
I need some recommendations from you. I am coming from a chaing of Samsung devices. (S3, S7 Edge, my latest device was a Note 8, which I sadly lost on the weekend), so now I need something new...
Simple question, after your experiences with the P20 Pro, would you still recommend it?
My most important priorities for a mobile are:
1.) Camera!
2.) Battery / runtime
3.) Updates
in that order.
I don't care about rooting & flashing any more tbh, these times are behind me
I am also not a big mobile gamer.
Other contenders I think about next to the P20 Pro are currently:
- S9+
- Oneplus 6T
- ?
Would you still go for the P20 pro? Or select something different?
Thanks!
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Sorry, I could not add link with other old account (never posted !)
I'll then try to delete the other post.
Here is what I wrote :
Got my P20 pro 2 weeks ago.
I come from Sony (Z, Z2, XZ,...) and decided to change after lots of frustration (Sony SHOULD be better. Why do others do better with their own hardware ?!)
I chose the P20 pro for its camera, after reading lots of 'reviews'...
And I'm very disapointed... IA is bull****, I don't use it.
Zoom has nothing to do with 'optical' : you get better results cropping a 40 Mo 'pro' mode picture.
But the worst thing is distortion, that's just incredible...
I'll come back with pictures, I'm at work now !
Just my 2 cents : try to find someone that can make you try the P20 pro camera. Maybe you'll like it (many do), many you won't.
now that I know, I would not buy without testing myself.
+ v9 update has lots of important bugs (see posts in this forum) , I went back to 8.1.
(I see you don't care about UB, root,... but the Huawei policy should have left me far from them... Sadly, I read this forum 6 months ago, before bying recently, and then discovered they don't give UB code any more !)
This is a review I found a bit too late :
https://pocketnow.com/huawei-p20-pro-photographers-guide
You may find this interesting : https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/help/shooting-raw-severe-vignetting-t3776240/page3
I did test cornerfix with the P20 pro profile : it's far better.
But I already have a Canon 7D as DSLR and enough raw files to edit !
I'm coming from s7edge as well.
Would not pick the p20 Pro the second time.
The photos look good, the night mode is really good but similar results I could get with s7e .
Video quality is horrid (s7e modded to 100mbps bitrate)
Now, I would go for op6 as temporary phone and later down the year switch it to something more modern.
I had the op 6t and the camera was absolute trash. Couldn't shoot anything with the slightest movement and super soft when shooting people. Maybe things have gotten better since launch. I loved the software but had to return due to the camera.
Camera on the p20 pro is good, but it's not life changing. I like the s8 and s9 cameras. They do some things better, some worse.
Updates depend on the region you are located. I have the Chinese version and with hicare in China region I get updates quickly. Battery life is good, I get a full day and I'm a pretty heavy user. No way I get 2 days on this tho like others say.
Thanks you guys so far!
Status:
Makes me a little uncomfortable regarding the P20 and disqualifies the OPO6T so far
So to be clear what I personally expect from a camera
- I want an auto-mode click and shoot cam which delivers great results
- with a fast shutter speed! (moving objects in not optimal lighting conditions shouldn't be blurred because of auto-low shutter speeds)
- I don't care much about pro-modes, RAW & optical zooms & selfies...
In that regard I think I would normally go with the Pixel 3, but my problem is that it's not officially sold in my country and it's very expensive.
So seems like S9+ vs P20 Pro now.
Judging from my Note 8, which had troubles making pics of moving stuff indoors or at poorer light, I'd say that the S9 will suffer the same behaviour.
How does the P20 Pro do here?
And is the video quality of the P20 really that bad??
I can't think of any other good camera phones which play in the same league as both of them, which are reasonably priced ( bye bye Pixel :crying: )
Hey guys i want to know if anyone can guide or suggest best working rom other then ofcourse mi rom . I have tried evolution rom and pixel experience rom. Evolution was working great, only issue is screen dead randomly. While pixel experience is strange , screen lag, front camera pop issues .
So if you guys happy with one rom, ticks all bars. Would be great.
I've planned to buy this phone, but I kinda disappointed about custom roms development. there is no stable PIE yet when ppl expecting android 10 already. This is not a "Top Seller" phone deserves ...
It's still only a mere few months since it launched. It'll take some time for more development to pop-up. AFAIK most of the devs are holding back until sources for android 10 are released completely.
Compared to devices like Poco F1 this one didn't get extra promotion especially on xda (like how the F1 got distributed to top devs just like the RN8Pro now for seeding development), also probably has lesser sales in comparison .. so it'll just take a bit more time and should soon speed up in light of the stable android 10 based updates.
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It's still only a mere few months since it launched. It'll take some time for more development to pop-up. AFAIK most of the devs are holding back until sources for android 10 are released completely.
Compared to devices like Poco F1 this one didn't get extra promotion especially on xda (like how the F1 got distributed to top devs just like the RN8Pro now for seeding development), also probably has lesser sales in comparison .. so it'll just take a bit more time and should soon speed up in light of the stable android 10 based updates.
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My k20 pro is on way to me, and i think people should be more patient, its new device, to make a good stable rom you have to work for months on it. This device will definitely got support for many years.
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It's still only a mere few months since it launched. It'll take some time for more development to pop-up. AFAIK most of the devs are holding back until sources for android 10 are released completely.
Compared to devices like Poco F1 this one didn't get extra promotion especially on xda (like how the F1 got distributed to top devs just like the RN8Pro now for seeding development), also probably has lesser sales in comparison .. so it'll just take a bit more time and should soon speed up in light of the stable android 10 based updates.
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Agree, but OP7 Pro and K20 Pro released at the same time, almost same devices and challenges like FOD, Pop-up camera and etc. Also OP7 Pro got official custom roms too rather than unofficial ones. kinda jealous ...
There's no stable alternative to the miui 10 rom. Even miui 11 is quite buggy.
I've tried all of the roms on here. They each have their quirks and bugs. After trying aosp gestures, miui 11 is leagues ahead too. That's another thing to consider.
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Agree, but OP7 Pro and K20 Pro released at the same time, almost same devices and challenges like FOD, Pop-up camera and etc. Also OP7 Pro got official custom roms too rather than unofficial ones. kinda jealous ...
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The fan following & 'professional reviewers' following of One Plus is much larger than that of Redmi.
It's almost like they consider themselves the Apple of Android thus sometimes the mad, blind hype to get the latest one == larger dev interest.
Jealousy is totally normal, even I felt the same when there was so much interest in poco f1 & kernel development by several elite devs & also the time when I'd a SD821 Mi Note 2 but Pixel had a more highly thriving community but nevertheless good things like roms & kernels started coming out in about 9-10 months & still decent today..
If the hardware is strong, the device sources made available asap after official releases then we'll have development for quite a long time! :highfive:
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I've planned to buy this phone, but I kinda disappointed about custom roms development. there is no stable PIE yet when ppl expecting android 10 already. This is not a "Top Seller" phone deserves ...
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All I hear in this forum is "mimimimimi"... What's wrong with this community? Be patient please!
The Mi 9T pro / K20 pro is a great device considering the price of $ 370.
+ 4000mAh battery
+ No notch
+ Amoled screen
+ Quick charge 27 W
- But I dislike miui in every single way
On the other hand, I think about oneplus 7 considering the price of $ 400:
+ Dual speakers
+ Amoled screen
+ Main camera with OIS
++ Oxygen OS (like vanilla android)
- 3700 mAh
- only in black color for this price
- screen with notch
In my opinion, I decided to wait a little longer while I follow the development of custom roms.
Hello everyone,
I want to buy Realme x2 pro mobile 12gb ram 256gb memory Variant in India. I am really concerned about warranty after root. I searched Internet couldn't find any clear answer.
I want to ask if I buy Realme x2 pro mobile 12gb ram 256gb memory mobile and then unlock the bootloader and root the phone will it void the warranty of the phone.
Is there any solution to root the phone but if something goes wrong the phone could be unrooted and make it under warranty.
Kindly help.
Thanks in Advance.
Best Wishes
i was excited and i bought it
and i am not happy with the software side of the device AT ALL!
brand is new, development is obviously slow and more over realme was not very keen to make it developer friendly! infact in july they finaly released official flasher!
fingerprint doesn't work once boot is unlocked, atleast i am still trying to find out the method,
the device came with Color OS and now on realmeUI1 , where you must format data if you are flashing with non OPPO recovery (twrp or others) this means you must take all backups always!
the device doesnt go on recovery with KEY combination! like it used to with Xiaomi or sony or samsung!
it only goes to FASTBOOT MODE and from there you must trigger twrp everytime
why does it matter?
so Fastboot boot command DOES NOT WORK on REALME , to trigger device to wake up in recovery!
bootloops are so common that for every bootloop the usual solution is to FORMAT DATA, when i upgraded from June RealmeUI1 C25 version to July RealmeUI1 C29 version, via OrangeFox recovery, it went to bootloops! unless i did FORMAT DATA....
I am coming from PocoF1 which was so flashing friendly!
for me it was a huge mistake to buy this device and now i am stuck with it!
i got carried away with 12gb ram and on lower price! ,
Oh boy still not tired to use every single thread to blame the device?
If you're not happy with it, why just not sell it and buy Poco F2 if you were so happy with the F1? Or 1+ oder Xiaomi Mi or something else?
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Oh boy still not tired to use every single thread to blame the device?
If you're not happy with it, why just not sell it and buy Poco F2 if you were so happy with the F1? Or 1+ oder Xiaomi Mi or something else?
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sharing my honest opion! if you feel thats spamming you may report!
the OT asked my advice and I gave him!
shall i lie just because you are feeling offended?
Sorry, but you didn't answer him his question whether he will void warranty or not...
And btw. things like poor community / dev support are things which you could check BEFORE buying the device to cry afterwards.
@kk100
I don't know whether warranty is void by rooting.
But of course you can lock the bootloader afterwards again if you want to.
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sharing my honest opion! if you feel thats spamming you may report!
the OT asked my advice and I gave him!
shall i lie just because you are feeling offended?
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Thanks for Sharing your experience. I am not a developer you can consider me less technical details knowledge but I am now using Redmi Note 4 SD version 4gb ram 64gb memory for past three years and I want to mention on many occasions TWRP has saved my device from bricked device to bootloop. I am using Ramexpander app for past 2 year's so created a 3 gb Swap file do total Ram I get is 6.6gb but the phone lags a little bit.I am heavy user no games etc but lot of other apps. I want to purchase a 12gb ram 256gb memory mobile phone which is user friendly where I can easily root and Install some basic app TWRP, Titanium Backup, etc.. The price and features of Realme x2 pro mobile 12gb ram 256gb memory mobile is very appealing and value for money.
Thanks for replying.
You can also take a look at this thread for more information:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/realme-x2-pro/how-to/constantly-coming-to-phone-best-value-t4138625
kk100 said:
Thanks for Sharing your experience. I am not a developer you can consider me less technical details knowledge but I am now using Redmi Note 4 SD version 4gb ram 64gb memory for past three years and I want to mention on many occasions TWRP has saved my device from bricked device to bootloop. I am using Ramexpander app for past 2 year's so created a 3 gb Swap file do total Ram I get is 6.6gb but the phone lags a little bit.I am heavy user no games etc but lot of other apps. I want to purchase a 12gb ram 256gb memory mobile phone which is user friendly where I can easily root and Install some basic app TWRP, Titanium Backup, etc.. The price and features of Realme x2 pro mobile 12gb ram 256gb memory mobile is very appealing and value for money.
Thanks for replying.
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i have redmi note4 also, running on HAVOC2.3, and working fine as my office device,
as long as you use Realme x2 pro quietly with no meddling every now and then, the device will work perfect!
frankly I couldn't get REDMI k20 Pro Premium 12gb/512gb version , its also on sd855 and has amazing screen and its very popular device on xda where roms /kernels/mods are concern!
i wanted to buy that but i couldn't find
may be you should go to store hold k20 pro premuim in hand and feel the sense about it
but on hardware side,
realme x2 pro has 90hz screen refresh rate (k20 has 60only but after rooting, there is method to do 81hz)
realme x2 pro has dual loud speakers (K20 has mono)
realme x2 pro brightness is 1000nits where (k20 is 450nits)
but these were not my deal breakers! , i still wanted to buy k20 pro but due to unavailability in my local market! i couldnt
YasuHamed said:
i have redmi note4 also, running on HAVOC2.3, and working fine as my office device,
as long as you use Realme x2 pro quietly with no meddling every now and then, the device will work perfect!
frankly I couldn't get REDMI k20 Pro Premium 12gb/512gb version , its also on sd855 and has amazing screen and its very popular device on xda where roms /kernels/mods are concern!
i wanted to buy that but i couldn't find
may be you should go to store hold k20 pro premuim in hand and feel the sense about it
but on hardware side,
realme x2 pro has 90hz screen refresh rate (k20 has 60only but after rooting, there is method to do 81hz)
realme x2 pro has dual loud speakers (K20 has mono)
realme x2 pro brightness is 1000nits where (k20 is 450nits)
but these were not my deal breakers! , i still wanted to buy k20 pro but due to unavailability in my local market! i couldnt
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Thanks a lot for your sharing. I will not use my mobile with too much meddling but I want root and twrp etc I will not change roms either. I will look into k20 pro premium 12gb ram 512 gb . For Realme x2 pro I am concerned about rooting and warranty. Xiaomi is fine with rooting and warranty Realme should also follow it. I also think community support is important as if the device gets some problem there is support available for the device.
Thanks very much for replying to people like me who get lost with no support.
P. S. Just saw k20 pro premium 12gb /512. Wow what a phone and incredible specs and almost the same price as Realme x2 pro mobile. If I could get this I will purchase it.
kk100 said:
Thanks a lot for your sharing. I will not use my mobile with too much meddling but I want root and twrp etc I will not change roms either. I will look into k20 pro premium 12gb ram 512 gb . For Realme x2 pro I am concerned about rooting and warranty. Xiaomi is fine with rooting and warranty Realme should also follow it. I also think community support is important as if the device gets some problem there is support available for the device.
Thanks very much for replying to people like me who get lost with no support.
P. S. Just saw k20 pro premium 12gb /512. Wow what a phone and incredible specs and almost the same price as Realme x2 pro mobile. If I could get this I will purchase it.
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Just ask Realme support. They will give you the answer. I heard that they are ok with rooting and warranty.
Btw. If you want to go with k20pro premium I suggest you to install custom ROM because the stock one is flooded with ads and bloatware. Also you are losing 50W charging. FP is fixed in newer versions of Realme UI (unlocked bootloader).
fejkej said:
Just ask Realme support. They will give you the answer. I heard that they are ok with rooting and warranty.
Btw. If you want to go with k20pro premium I suggest you to install custom ROM because the stock one is flooded with ads and bloatware. Also you are losing 50W charging. FP is fixed in newer versions of Realme UI (unlocked bootloader).
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Thanks for replying. I asked Realme for warranty of device there was no clear specific answer. On internet if I am correct Realme website has mentioned that unlocking the bootloader will not void the warranty but rooting will do that's the confusion.
Thanks for your support
kk100 said:
Thanks a lot for your sharing. I will not use my mobile with too much meddling but I want root and twrp etc I will not change roms either. I will look into k20 pro premium 12gb ram 512 gb . For Realme x2 pro I am concerned about rooting and warranty. Xiaomi is fine with rooting and warranty Realme should also follow it. I also think community support is important as if the device gets some problem there is support available for the device.
Thanks very much for replying to people like me who get lost with no support.
P. S. Just saw k20 pro premium 12gb /512. Wow what a phone and incredible specs and almost the same price as Realme x2 pro mobile. If I could get this I will purchase it.
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X2 PRO was REALME's ANSWER to XIAOMI for K20 PRO Premiuim!
K20 was suppose to be pocof2, but they made it as K20 Pro Premium or in global market it was named as Mi9T pro premium, where later K30 released and K30 Pro released and now K30 Pro premium is actually POCO F2
so basically twrp for K20 easily covers Mi9t and K20 Pro for Mi9t Pro and K30pro will work for PocoF2 also!
Xiaomi's success is actually making their devices XDA friendly!
if low screen brightness in sun and 90hz gimmick doesn't affect u much! i would advice go for k20 pro premium! (12/512 gb)
modded kernels has kcal / sound boost is helpful
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X2 PRO was REALME's ANSWER to XIAOMI for K20 PRO Premiuim!
K20 was suppose to be pocof2, but they made it as K20 Pro Premium or in global market it was named as Mi9T pro premium, where later K30 released and K30 Pro released and now K30 Pro premium is actually POCO F2
so basically twrp for K20 easily covers Mi9t and K20 Pro for Mi9t Pro and K30pro will work for PocoF2 also!
Xiaomi's success is actually making their devices XDA friendly!
if low screen brightness in sun and 90hz gimmick doesn't affect u much! i would advice go for k20 pro premium! (12/512 gb)
modded kernels has kcal / sound boost is helpful
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Thanks for replying.
What great Information.
I want more productivity from a phone then fancy features. Now Even notification lights are not included in phone, can't even imagine that. I am really looking forward to k20 pro premium (12gb/512gb). Phone are really not expensive to manufacturers but sold at very high prices. Budget is also Important in these times. If I go for Realme x2 pro or k20 pro premium I will be paying almost 3 times of my current RN4 4gb /64gb which still gives value of money.
I will be trying to get k20 premium 12gb/512 if available or will have to choose Realme x2 pro 12gb/256 gb.
Thanks a lot.
Best Wishes
YasuHamed said:
X2 PRO was REALME's ANSWER to XIAOMI for K20 PRO Premiuim!
K20 was suppose to be pocof2, but they made it as K20 Pro Premium or in global market it was named as Mi9T pro premium, where later K30 released and K30 Pro released and now K30 Pro premium is actually POCO F2
so basically twrp for K20 easily covers Mi9t and K20 Pro for Mi9t Pro and K30pro will work for PocoF2 also!
Xiaomi's success is actually making their devices XDA friendly!
if low screen brightness in sun and 90hz gimmick doesn't affect u much! i would advice go for k20 pro premium! (12/512 gb)
modded kernels has kcal / sound boost is helpful
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Well... there is a problem with xiaomi devices in India as Indian government started to block xiaomi's apps. You don't really need to modify kernel to get equalizer/sound booster like viper4android and there's even a thread about getting one with Realme X2 pro. I don't think that custom kernels are a big problem rn as 855+ gives great performance.
kk100 said:
Thanks for replying.
What great Information.
I want more productivity from a phone then fancy features. Now Even notification lights are not included in phone, can't even imagine that. I am really looking forward to k20 pro premium (12gb/512gb). Phone are really not expensive to manufacturers but sold at very high prices. Budget is also Important in these times. If I go for Realme x2 pro or k20 pro premium I will be paying almost 3 times of my current RN4 4gb /64gb which still gives value of money.
I will be trying to get k20 premium 12gb/512 if available or will have to choose Realme x2 pro 12gb/256 gb.
Thanks a lot.
Best Wishes
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if you are a person who wants value for money! then frankly these two fones which have been discussing is most part having features we may not even fully use (if ever)
512gb storage you will NEVER fill up! in regular use!
90hz screen may not even make a difference and 90hz screen is not battery friendly so realmex2 pro don't use it on every app!
its the main processor that counts! Snapdragon 710/720/765 are weak processor and heats up because devices of this processor don't have liquid cooling ( realme x2pro and Redmi k20 pro premium has Liquid cooling)
other value for money FONES with GREAT support are
1. Poco f1 (but its lcd, so not every eye friendly)
2. Redmi NOTE 8 PRO ( its MediaTek gaming chip 40% cheaper, but LCD so you may not enjoy much, colors may feel dull, but test it in shop/ display models)
3. Mi note 9s (but its lcd)
4. Samsung M31 ! its also great fone! (but they use Enoyx processor which is slower) Rootable!
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Well... there is a problem with xiaomi devices in India as Indian government started to block xiaomi's apps. You don't really need to modify kernel to get equalizer/sound booster like viper4android and there's even a thread about getting one with Realme X2 pro. I don't think that custom kernels are a big problem rn as 855+ gives great performance.
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xiaomi apps getting blocked shouldn't be any problem with custom kernels
lots of kernel developers are from india only and these kernels are used on custom roms! and even custom roms are developed in india only!
i have used Havoc on PocoF1 which is developed by indian developer!
kcal gives GREAT control on controling screen values! infact most of the custom roms have included this feature under DIPLAY>LiveDisplay
sound booster by GOODAV is also good app to boost volume without unlocking bootlock!
90hz screen may not even make a difference
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Really?...just test it yourself in Chrome while scrolling and then tell again there is no difference...
For me 90hz nowadays is an absolut must have feature!
How much battery will you loose? One hour maybe?
Same thing you would lose with LCD screen, if not more...
YasuHamed said:
if you are a person who wants value for money! then frankly these two fones which have been discussing is most part having features we may not even fully use (if ever)
512gb storage you will NEVER fill up! in regular use!
90hz screen may not even make a difference and 90hz screen is not battery friendly so realmex2 pro don't use it on every app!
its the main processor that counts! Snapdragon 710/720/765 are weak processor and heats up because devices of this processor don't have liquid cooling ( realme x2pro and Redmi k20 pro premium has Liquid cooling)
other value for money FONES with GREAT support are
1. Poco f1 (but its lcd, so not every eye friendly)
2. Redmi NOTE 8 PRO ( its MediaTek gaming chip 40% cheaper, but LCD so you may not enjoy much, colors may feel dull, but test it in shop/ display models)
3. Mi note 9s (but its lcd)
4. Samsung M31 ! its also great fone! (but they use Enoyx processor which is slower) Rootable!
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xiaomi apps getting blocked shouldn't be any problem with custom kernels
lots of kernel developers are from india only and these kernels are used on custom roms! and even custom roms are developed in india only!
i have used Havoc on PocoF1 which is developed by indian developer!
kcal gives GREAT control on controling screen values! infact most of the custom roms have included this feature under DIPLAY>LiveDisplay
sound booster by GOODAV is also good app to boost volume without unlocking bootlock!
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I didn't said that blocked xiaomi apps will cause problems with custom kernels or Indian kernels would not work... The author of this post wants to stay on stock ROM with root. That so I meant that it isn't a great choice if he wants to stay on stock ROM.
About 90hz... when you use a phone for some time with 90hz you can really notice the difference between 60hz and 90hz... After using my phone on 60hz for week and 90hz for another week I haven't noticed any difference with battery life. If someone really want to use 90hz on every app there is a thread about getting it.
Also I don't think that there's a need of volume boosting on Realme X2 pro when the phone is extremely loud stock.
256GB for normal user is enough and I don't see a need for more storage space.
Both phones are great but of course because xiaomi is bigger they have bigger community with more mods/roms/kernels.
Thanks everyone for taking time to reply.
About budget phones yes i have been using redmi note 4 SD for past 3 years but this time I really want more ram like 12gb/256 Realme x2 pro or k20 premium edition 12/512gb. I will mostly use stock rom I don't want to get into custom roms I am not a developer or much technical details knowledge.
But now I don't want to use my mobile with Ramexpander app for extra ram, Using 2 sim plus 128gb micro SD(This is enough but not good, need more memory) card with sim extension tool,I also use external 1tb hdd with mobile data backup with stickmount app.
Xiaomi still doesn't has Mi Pc suite for above KitKat which is extremely annoying. Unfortunately transferring data from mobile through mtp doesn't work in my mobile and lost lot of important data because of this earlier.
Does Realme has Pc suite?
For Realme x2 pro mobile 12gb/256gb I am looking for warranty after root.
I am still more inclined to buy Realme x2 pro 12/256 or k20 pro premium 12/512gb. I just want value for money and peace of mind that these phone will last next 3 years without any trouble.
Thanks everyone for replying.
Best Wishes
Realme doesn't have PC suite, but why do you need it?
Don't want to use cloud?
kk100 said:
Thanks everyone for taking time to reply.
About budget phones yes i have been using redmi note 4 SD for past 3 years but this time I really want more ram like 12gb/256 Realme x2 pro or k20 premium edition 12/512gb. I will mostly use stock rom I don't want to get into custom roms I am not a developer or much technical details knowledge.
But now I don't want to use my mobile with Ramexpander app for extra ram, Using 2 sim plus 128gb micro SD(This is enough but not good, need more memory) card with sim extension tool,I also use external 1tb hdd with mobile data backup with stickmount app.
Xiaomi still doesn't has Mi Pc suite for above KitKat which is extremely annoying. Unfortunately transferring data from mobile through mtp doesn't work in my mobile and lost lot of important data because of this earlier.
Does Realme has Pc suite?
For Realme x2 pro mobile 12gb/256gb I am looking for warranty after root.
I am still more inclined to buy Realme x2 pro 12/256 or k20 pro premium 12/512gb. I just want value for money and peace of mind that these phone will last next 3 years without any trouble.
Thanks everyone for replying.
Best Wishes
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1. use myphoneexplorer , its virtually for every android device on earth freee, https://www.fjsoft.at/en/ , started for sony ericson but as sony moved to xperia the developer added support for android, i always use this never installed xperia companion or kies or misuite
2. no realme / oppo dont have pc suite, not that i found on web
3.since grass is greaner on the other side, and as user above said xiomi has bigger developent community, i am now more inclined towards k20 pro, but you will feel more inclined towards k20 pro once after you will buy realme x2 pro lol
4. i would not say x2pro headphone volume is loud! yes speaker is loud, i still use volume booster by Goodav to enjoy music
Hi,everyone been on iPhone on and off since the 3GS, I'm looking to upgrade my 11 Pro Max and thinking of getting the "New" OnePlus 10 Pro. I had the OnePlus 1 and the OnePlus 7T so I'm not new to OnePlus or OxagenIOs but the reviews have been mixed. I figured I would ask the community if it was worth the switch and if not the OnePlus 10 Pro https://nox.tips/ https://xender.vip/ any recommendations for a new phone, right now I'm also looking at the Pixel 6 Pro or thinking of waiting till the Pixel 7.
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Hi,everyone been on iPhone on and off since the 3GS, I'm looking to upgrade my 11 Pro Max and thinking of getting the "New" OnePlus 10 Pro. I had the OnePlus 1 and the OnePlus 7T so I'm not new to OnePlus or OxagenIOs but the reviews have been mixed. I figured I would ask the community if it was worth the switch and if not the OnePlus 10 Pro any recommendations for a new phone, right now I'm also looking at the Pixel 6 Pro or thinking of waiting till the Pixel 7.
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I would wait and see on the Pixel 7, I am sure it will be better than OP10 Pro.
Don't by this sh*t !!
Stupid, Disgusting, Buggy ColorOS (new OxygenOS) !!
No MSM Tool, No official ROM, No TWRP, No custom ROMs !!
First mistake and bootloop = Last one = No way to fix it !!
Also you must call it "OPPO 10 Pro"
"OnePlus" doesn't exists anymore !!
Just wait for pixel 7 ...
R.I.P. OnePlus and OxygenOS
What he said
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Don't by this sh*t !!
Stupid, Disgusting, Buggy ColorOS (new OxygenOS) !!
No MSM Tool, No official ROM, No TWRP, No custom ROMs !!
First mistake and bootloop = Last one = No way to fix it !!
Also you must call it "OPPO 10 Pro"
"OnePlus" doesn't exists anymore !!
Just wait for pixel 7 ...
R.I.P. OnePlus and OxygenOS
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To provide an alternative perspective for the OP, I disagree with Saeed that the phone is garbage. ColorOS is not buggy for me, and I personally like the features. So personal preference here, you might like it or maybe not.
I can agree that it is a bummer there is no MSM tool, but IMO the only time I have needed that tool was when I was into custom ROMs and get a bad build, or I did something stupid by not reading instructions. Never had an issue with just OOS rooting and flashing.
Also, I have just have no time for tinkering/experimenting with my phone anymore and I am happy with just OOS. So I have no interest in custom ROMs, I don't have time to constantly be fixing my phone from buggy or custom stuff. I need it to be stable, have root and I am happy.
Same with TWRP, I haven't used that in probably 4 years now. All I do is unlock bootloader, boot a patched Magisk boot, patch the phone boot, and I am done. I have zero need for TWRP.
To the point about full flashable ROMs, one would only need them if they're constantly ROM hopping, which of course does not affect me.
So if you're like me and don't need custom ROMs or recovery, the phone will be great. I am very happy with it. If you're like Saeed, then you'll be posting multiple exclamation points after every sentence. All about perspective/preferences.
Sidenote, I personally was very disappointed when I tried the Pixel 6. Software had none of the features that OOS has, like screen off gestures (music control, flashlight ect), hide icons on status bar, ect. Just a bunch of small things that I didn't know I'd miss. Also, the charging speed was crazy slow compared to OnePlus, and finally the modem had the worse cell reception I have ever experienced in a smartphone. YMMV
I ditched mine, but it's a nice device with stock setup....
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I would wait and see on the Pixel 7, I am sure it will be better than OP10 Pro.
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Tensor 2 is rumored to still use weak A55 cores. If you want a flagship, the 7 is going to be quite far from being one. That's without even taking the garbage Samsung modem into account.
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Tensor 2 is rumored to still use weak A55 cores. If you want a flagship, the 7 is going to be quite far from being one. That's without even taking the garbage Samsung modem into account.
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Yes, the Pixel 6 modem was really bad. I returned it. If Pixel 7 has the same/similar, then Google done messed up
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Tensor 2 is rumored to still use weak A55 cores. If you want a flagship, the 7 is going to be quite far from being one. That's without even taking the garbage Samsung modem into account.
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I have no idea why Google persist to develop tensor cpu !!
Google: Just use the latest and greatest of Qualcomm snapdragon ...
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I have no idea why Google persist to develop tensor cpu !!
Google: Just use the latest and greatest of Qualcomm snapdragon ...
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Only reason I got the OnePlus 9 and not the Pixel 6 was Tensor and the Samsung modem...
I wouldn't even take a free one. Boycott them
Pixel 7 will be the right choice, or maybe even Samsung. Oneplus has offically been added to my NEVER buy list. Tensor may be meh, but at least google releases factory images right away. I repeat NEVER BUY THIS GARBAGE PHONE
n0lan said:
Pixel 7 will be the right choice, or maybe even Samsung. Oneplus has offically been added to my NEVER buy list. Tensor may be meh, but at least google releases factory images right away. I repeat NEVER BUY THIS GARBAGE PHONE
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+1 Yeah!
With pixel we have full factory images FOR EVERY UPDATE
Bare in mind that the information gathered about the the pixel 7 is pre release and wont be a fair rep of the chip.
It's meant to be the same but improved chip so battery life will be improved.
Also GPU improvements which should make gaming a little better, top games and emulators could already run on the 6 and 6 pro respectively, so the 7 could hit a sweet spot with current software available, the one thing that was bad with the 6 was the battery and increasing heat when gaming.
Overall I think it's too early to tell, with Chinese devices being ever more spyware ridden and locked down I personally wouldn't be 100% happy getting any of them, certainly not any of the big ones like OnePlus / oppo / Xiaomi.
The pixel 7 I think will be the device that people will be flock to, developers and users alike.
I don't think it'll be perfect, nor was I overehelmed by the news of the SOC, but if I had to choose between that and the turds floating out of the south china sea then I'd go with the 7..
That's my thinking at this point.
Certainly send like the battleground of mobile devices is starting to look more political, I doubt that'll go away any time soon.
It's all a matter of personal preference.
I sent mine back today. Tried to like it, but it was frustrating the life out of me. Stuck my sim back in my S21 ultra and the difference between the two is like night and day.
I think my time with OnePlus is done after all the years being with them.
If Samsung had an alert slider then that would be just perfect for me.
hallo dare said:
It's all a matter of personal preference.
I sent mine back today. Tried to like it, but it was frustrating the life out of me. Stuck my sim back in my S21 ultra and the difference between the two is like night and day.
I think my time with OnePlus is done after all the years being with them.
If Samsung had an alert slider then that would be just perfect for me.
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If Samsung made a vanilla device with pure android they'd completely clean up..
Plus they need to drop that exynos crap and chill on the bootloader locking stuff.
Give people a choice.
Also I don't think you're alone in not getting another OnePlus.
They're dead
I really like the OnePlus 10 Pro 12/512GB, even the Oppofied software. My only issue with them is the nonsense with not being able to have custom rom.
I have the 12/256 variant and love it.
It's far more enjoyable than my pixel 6 pro was as well as my rog phone 5.
The last time I enjoyed a phone this much was the galaxy s10+ or my oneplus 7 pro
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I have the 12/256 variant and love it.
It's far more enjoyable than my pixel 6 pro was as well as my rog phone 5.
The last time I enjoyed a phone this much was the galaxy s10+ or my oneplus 7 pro
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The ROG has been on my shortlist as I do game on my devices, I'm considering one of them in the future.. a sort of get it as it is type of device rather than what it can be.
How does the ROG 5 compare to the 10 pro in regards to heavy apps/games
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The ROG has been on my shortlist as I do game on my devices, I'm considering one of them in the future.. a sort of get it as it is type of device rather than what it can be.
How does the ROG 5 compare to the 10 pro in regards to heavy apps/games
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Oddly enough the oneplus can run pubg mobile on HDR and extreme fps and the rog can't. Overall I'd say it's the same for gaming. I'm running pubg mobile and genshin on the same settings on my 10 pro as I was on my rog.
The camera on the rog is absolutely **** as is the durability. It's not even water resistantet let alone waterproof. The game genie software is top notch though as are the air triggers and I'd say that it has bar none the best speakers in a phone.